15:00:36 From Heidi Hinkley : I can here you 15:00:48 From Emily Colucci : Me too 15:00:49 From Janet McKenney : Thanks Heidi! 15:00:57 From Janet McKenney : ans Emily 15:02:50 From Heidi Hinkley : I'm multitasking, look at that typo! hear/here 15:03:42 From Nancy Petersons-Mechanic Falls : Can you let me know where to find the # of people allowed in the library for 1725 sq. ft. I am in the process of having my plexiglass shield built, so I should be ready to open Monday. 15:03:59 From 963wh to Janet McKenney(Privately) : I can't hear anything. I just joined. 15:05:31 From Heidi Hinkley : Nancy Petersons here: https://www.maine.gov/msl/libs/documents/PLS-2018-SqFt-LSA-Update-May21.pdf 15:06:03 From Janet McKenney : For Nancy Peterson - https://www.maine.gov/msl/libs/documents/PLS-2018-SqFt-LSA-Update-May21.pdf It is 5 people for your size. 15:06:07 From karen MacGillivary : that’s because we are typing ourselves! 15:06:07 From Nancy Petersons-Mechanic Falls : Thank you Heidi! 15:06:20 From Heidi Hinkley : yw 15:06:52 From Nancy Petersons-Mechanic Falls : Thanks! I was wading through all the documents and got lazy! 15:07:09 From Heidi Hinkley : I had it pulled up on my computer, was just looking at it lol 15:13:14 From Karen Eger : I have now had two Covid-19 dreams. Nighmares? 15:13:43 From Janet McKenney : I hope everyone had a nice weekend! 15:13:58 From Janet McKenney : Only 2 Karen? 15:14:01 From Michelle Sampson : You too, Janet! 15:14:10 From Barb Rehmeyer : Anyone remember how to find library access code? 15:14:20 From Michelle Sampson : Looks like Melissa Olson is still having a great one... 15:15:17 From Cheryl Hevey : squirrels attachment our house in my nightmare 15:15:19 From Karen Eger : These were Covid LIBRARY dreams! 15:15:46 From Cheryl Hevey : attaching my house sorry... 15:15:47 From Barb Rehmeyer : Is it same as FSCS ID? 15:15:58 From Leila Roy : Oh, man, I've had so many of those, Karen, you're not alone! 15:16:17 From Kara Library : @Barb do you mean to update your library status? 15:16:28 From Debbie : you're loud & clear 15:16:55 From Melissa Olson : you are breaking up a little 15:17:28 F15:19:31 15:19:52 From Sharon : Join Zoom Meeting on May 26 at 3:15 pm: MSL-Continuing the Coronavirus Conversation https://zoom.us/j/99860497492 Meeting ID: 998 6049 7492 15:24:58 From E Quint’s iPad : do you want us to hold ILLs until after July 4? 15:24:58 From Deborah Clark : Thursday, May 28, 2 PM- MSL live program on self-care and supporting staff as they transition back to on-site work. https://zoom.us/j/97984114219 15:26:53 From Deborah Clark : If you miss the first session, a second self-care session happens Thursday June 4, 2 PM https://zoom.us/j/92643004231 15:28:42 From Cindy Appleby : Was the invitation to Thursday's meetings via M-libs? 15:28:53 From Cindy Appleby : MElibs 15:28:55 From Josie Pease : What about URSUS libraries? Is it going to be the same at Minerva and MILS procedures? 15:29:10 From james : Minerva meeting went out via Minerva-L and Minerva circ lists 15:29:21 From Cindy Appleby : thanks 15:29:22 From james : URSUS will be very similar-- 15:29:37 From james : and I believe an URSUS circ heads meeting is in the works 15:29:51 From Josie Pease : Great, thanks 15:30:06 From Jerry Lund : URSUS Circ Heads will likely meet this week. 15:30:37 From stratton public library : So, if we have books that we borrowed and they are ready to go back do we send them or just accept our books coming back 15:31:01 From Mamie Ney : They're great! I can address things with my staff. 15:31:33 From james : Items ready to return to the owning library can be sent in the regular/irregular delivery pickups that will start in June 15:31:48 From stratton public library : Thank you James 15:32:06 From Melissa Olson : sector 15:32:26 From Friend Memorial Library : Thanks James, that answered my question for us returning other libraries items. 15:34:07 From stratton public library : Do we need to use the approved cleaners on the list or can we use anything to clean. Our town buys the cleaning stuff 15:34:22 From Courtney Sparks : Janet - for libraries starting with curbside, do we have to fill out the DECD compliance form or is that more for opening the building to the public? 15:35:36 From E Quint’s iPad : ditto courtney 15:36:26 From Ogunquit Library : for libraries starting with curbside, do we have to fill out the DECD compliance form or is that more for opening the building to the public? 15:38:49 From Harper C : Am I the only one who disagrees with the fact that the presence of people in the building is not also private information? I have always worked on the assumption that it was, especially with youth & teens and other at risk populations. I would not tell someone whether a patron had been in the building unless required by law -- I realize this is a very unique situation, but I still think we need to tread carefully. 15:39:40 From Jennifer at Fort Fairfield : Being in the library is not protected information. Only what the person actually does. 15:40:22 From karen MacGillivary : If you have a quilting group in your town they may be happy to make masks for you 15:40:23 From Josh @GPL : Harper - from the Maine law library - May you share that someone was actually in the library? Is sharing the fact that someone was actually in the library protected? (i.e. a parent asks if “you’ve seen my child?” or anyone else for that matter, including law enforcement asking if “so and so was at the library). Yes, this may be revealed as this is not protected. A person’s sight or appearance in a public space is not a “record.” Please understand that this is different than divulging that “so and so was using the PCs.” 15:40:36 From Pat Curley : we are going to offer masks to anyone who wants to come in and hasn't got one. Otherwise we will offer to get the books they want and bring them to them 15:40:56 From Jennifer at Fort Fairfield : Have there been confirmation as to the number of people allowed in the building includes or doesn't include staff. 15:41:30 From Courtney Sparks : Thanks for trying to answer! :) 15:41:42 From Waterford Library : is there a square foot recommendation? 15:41:48 From Courtney Sparks : I don't define curbside only as "open" in the sense that I think the checklists indicate 15:42:19 From Carver Library : Do we have guidance about opening/not opening public restrooms? Is that a legal matter? 15:42:25 From Leslie Mortimer : I agree Courtney. Curbside is not "open." 15:42:33 From Michelle Sampson : I thought the legal issues were far broader than just mask-wearing 15:42:45 From Nancy Petersons-Mechanic Falls : Are there still face masks available from the Maine State Library? 15:42:46 From Michelle Sampson : Staffing issues; patron issues; policies 15:44:00 From Nancy : Are the rules about masks the same for the 12 rural counties as the other 4 counties? 15:44:12 From Pat Curley : We are keeping the bathroom closed to the public for the month of June and then we will see. 15:44:47 From Ogunquit Library : Can you provide the link to DECD compliance form? 15:45:03 From Michelle Sampson : What about creating a list /google doc of the questions we all have? Rather than 200+ of us asking a lot of the same questions of 200+ attorneys... Once a list is consolidated, could MSL consolidate and sent to Atty Gen? 15:45:10 From Jennifer at Fort Fairfield : I would like to know if I can require a patron to wear a mask to use our equipment, such as our computers. Not quite as worried about someone just coming in to pick up and leaving immediately, but those that are staying for 15+minutes. 15:45:21 From Jeff Cabral : The masks requirement was statewide I believe. With regard to bathrooms, you should check with your local Codes and public health folks for guidance. 15:46:10 From Deborah Clark : Compliance form https://appengine.egov.com/apps/me/covidpreventionform 15:47:02 From Jennifer at Fort Fairfield : Thank you Dan! ;) 15:47:59 From Josh @GPL : We are setting aside touched materials for 72-hours. 15:48:18 From Melissa Olson : Did I hear correctly that small libraries under 7500 sq. feet are limited to 5 patrons at a time? 15:48:19 From Andrea DeBiase : Are we recommending an average "stay" like 15 or 30 minutes, the longer they stay in the library breathing, the more droplets released etc... 15:48:26 From Susan Schroeder : Same as Josh here. 15:48:41 From Josh @GPL : Melissa - yes, based on the retail square foot vs. people in the store configuration 15:48:50 From Mamie Ney : Telling them that they need to put touched book on table. 15:49:25 From karen MacGillivary : if hand sanitizer is used before browsing is this effective? 15:49:58 From Josh @GPL : If someone wears gloves and touches something contaminated, the gloves are contaminated 15:50:05 From Josh @GPL : And hence, everything else they touch are contaminated. 15:50:53 From Andrea Koltai-Price : Many of us touch our faces, etc and then touch other things without realizing it. Neither gloves nor sanitizer will address that. 15:51:28 From Beth Kane : Thinking about facemasks, The Exec Order cited in the checklist currently states that it is in effect through May 31, 2020. If we open our building in June and that date hasn't been extended, then aren't we just asking people to choose use a mask to keep staff, oythere community members adn themselves healthy and safe? Or is that date likely to be extended? 15:51:37 From stratton public library : How about using handsanitizer like Karen asked 15:53:11 From iPhone : so which time frame is safest? per science 15:53:14 From Josh @GPL : Hand sanitizer works when it is used. Once dried and if someone touches their face, or something contaminated, then their hands are contaminated. 15:53:38 From Pat Curley : I thought the executive order was extended to June 15 15:53:39 From Jared : Hand sanitizer should state alcohol percentage of over 65% 15:54:23 From Carver Library : Do we have any understanding on how long staff can be in potentially infectious air, since it's now considered to be largely airborne? 15:54:31 From Jared : Some sanitizers simply state that they are antibacterial, but without alcohol as an active ingredient, it is not antiviral and will not be useful against COVID 15:54:40 From Andrea DeBiase : we are quarantining "returned" books for a week, for now. 15:55:07 From james : Regarding quarantine times, there is not a scientific consensus yet, and unfortunately we will be in that state until AT LEAST the Batelle study is released hopefully in August 15:55:31 From Julie Sawtelle Cumston Pub LIb, Monmouth : August?!? 15:55:56 From james : I believe the results from the OCLC Batelle study will not come out until August. 15:56:18 From stratton public library : What type or brand of sanitizer should be used 15:56:23 From Michelle Brenner : What about the latest CDC announcement about surface spread? Someone on my board is interpreting it to say that quarantining is not necessary. 15:56:23 From Jeff Cabral : State of Civil Emergency was extended until 6/11 I believe. That's different than the Executive Order. 15:56:47 From Jeff Cabral : That was in answer to Pat Curley. 15:57:43 From Jennifer at Fort Fairfield : It looks like they are thinking some results will be available by mid June - Battelle began the first round of testing of materials on May 13, 2020. Five items commonly found in public libraries, which are also in high circulation and expected to arrive back in public libraries in large volumes were selected for this round. The materials were provided to Battelle by Columbus Metropolitan Library, and the tests will determine the length of time the COVID-19 virus may live on the surface of the materials and the results on this first round are expected to be released in mid-June. The items include: hardcover book, made of buckram cloth softcover book cover pages inside of book plastic protective cover DVD case 15:57:58 From Jennifer at Fort Fairfield : https://www.webjunction.org/news/webjunction/realm-happening-now.html 15:58:29 From DanHester : Good source for useful, economical, disposable face masks? ? 15:59:11 From Matthew Graff : I would fight that tooth and nail, @Michelle. "Coronavirus 'does not spread easily' by touching surfaces or objects, CDC says. But it still 'may be possible." https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/05/20/coronavirus-does-not-spread-easily-surfaces-objects-cdc/5232748002/ 15:59:21 From Mae : We had several local people who made and donated 100 masks to the library. 15:59:41 From Janet Adelberg : I found masks, sanitizer, gloves and wipes at Walgreens this past weekend. 15:59:49 From Deborah Clark : Some options for re-opening supplies and PPE https://www.maine.gov/msl/libs/services/documents/COVID_Supplies_Libraries.pdf 16:00:00 From Ruth Mapleton to Janet McKenney(Privately) : Wow, Janet! YOu lucked out! 16:00:34 From Holly Williams : We're doing curbside now but will begin taking appointments for folks wanting to use computers or our catalog later next week. We want to start with that before we let more people in. Baby steps! 16:00:36 From Michelle Brenner : Thank you Matthew! 16:00:50 From Amy Wisehart : Michelle, the CDC has clarified that their position has not changed about COVID on surfaces - the media coverage was a bit misleading. They are saying that the primary way the virus spreads is person to person but it can spread from surfaces: https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2020/s0522-cdc-updates-covid-transmission.html 16:01:05 From Mamie Ney : Same here Holly. 16:01:09 From james : Jennifer - thank you for that update on REALM/OCLC/Batelle study. If there is interim information from them by then, that will be great to have more data to inform decisions. thanks 16:02:16 From Leslie Mortimer : Right, Jamie. I was just about to type that! 16:02:32 From Rich Boulet : Very helpful, Amy Wisehart. 16:02:39 From Carver Library : who do we contact about van delivery limited schedule? 16:04:01 From Friend Memorial Library : Thank you Janet! 16:05:12 From james : sorry for interrupting you, Nancy! 16:05:17 From Waterford Library : Would you like us to keep track of # of Zoom meetings and # attendees? 16:06:21 16:06:35 From Alice Olson : when I try to use melibs for comments or questions it will not allow me to do it. Could it be that I am using a certain browser that it doesn't accept? 16:06:41 From Barb Rehmeyer : So to get things back from the warehouse, should we contact them now? Or wait until June 9? 16:07:01 From james : Barb- wait for the form from the State Library 16:07:09 From Barb Rehmeyer : Thank you 16:07:17 From james : that will allow the most efficient planning for deliveries during that week 16:08:18 From james : Alice- it probably is an alias issue-- your email might be signed up one way but then your sending information might be different, so it is rejecting your emails 16:09:03 From Alice Olson : thank you Jamie, but how would I resolve that?? 16:09:09 From Ann Dyer : The CDC issued clarification that their position has not changed - it was a change in web design that caused confusion. 16:09:19 From james : Alice- send an email to support@maineinfonet.org with your eamil information and we can try to update the registration 16:09:36 From Ann Dyer : https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/05/22/861193550/advice-on-surface-spread-of-covid-19-has-not-changed-cdc-says 16:09:53 From Jennifer at Fort Fairfield : You can sign up for immediately news release updates from OCLC/Batelle/IMLS REALM project in your email - https://www.oclc.org/content/oclc-forms/en_us/realm-updates.html 16:09:54 From Holly Williams : :"Based on data from lab studies on COVID-19 and what we know about similar respiratory diseases, it may be possible that a person can get COVID-19 by touching a surface or object that has the virus on it and then touching their own mouth, nose, or possibly their eyes, but this isn’t thought to be the main way the virus spreads."CDC's website 16:11:35 From BPL Director : My town's code enforcement officer said that children 2 and up need face coverings. 16:11:47 From Marcela Peres : Guidance from the American Academy of Pediatrics on face coverings and children: https://www.healthychildren.org/English/health-issues/conditions/chest-lungs/Pages/Cloth-Face-Coverings-for-Children-During-COVID-19.aspx 16:12:08 From iPhone : jeff mentioned the 7days. what is the reference so i can tell my board? 16:12:47 From james : https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanmic/article/PIIS2666-5247(20)30003-3/fulltext 16:13:28 From james : Note that the temperatures in the article are in celsius 16:13:35 From Bernie : countries in hot climates have not been using AC during this 16:14:06 From Waterford Library : what about running an overhead fan? 16:14:10 From Cindy Appleby : We are installing upgraded filters, but my HVAC guy says with ceiling vents and returns, it's unlikely for the virus to travel up and more likely to go down to the carpet. 16:14:21 From james : I got really excited when it said that survivability at 70deg was only 5 minutes-- then I realized that was 70deg C which is 158 fahrenheit. whoops 16:14:48 From Alice Olson : so would heat pumps not be a good situation? Or good? 16:15:41 From Janet Wilson : We were thinking that A/C would be better than blowing air around with fans. Is that inaccurate? 16:15:50 From Rich Boulet : If your library has an HVAC system, it would be good to review that it is operating for maximum air exchange. This can be set at the controls level. Some systems exchange air for heating or cooling cycles only. 16:16:18 From Pat Curley : I think we were told not to use the over head fans..open windows if we need fresh air. 16:16:33 From Matthew Graff : Only install updated filtration in your HVAC after consulting with HVAC specialists. Denser filters put greater strain in HVAC system and could cause failure. 16:16:59 From Hope Rumpca-Shafer : It would be lovely to have an air-conditioning system. LOL! ;-) 16:17:01 From Waterford Library : So windows open, not fans? 16:17:15 From Jeff Cabral : MSL is not responsible for HVAC advice haha. 16:17:15 From Karen Eger : Open the windows! 16:17:28 16:17:34 From Michelle Sampson : Wish I could...no screens! 16:17:39 From Anne Romans : Thank you Janet! 16:17:46 From Cara Sawyer : Thanks everyone! 16:17:46 From Pat Curley : thank you 16:17:47 From Jen De salme : Thank you! 16:17:47 From Michelle Sampson : Thanks everyone ! 16:17:48 From Joanna Hynd : Thank you! 16:17:48 From Rich Boulet : Thanks 16:17:48 From Karen Eger : We love you! 16:17:49 From Jennifer at Fort Fairfield : Thanks Jammie and Janet 16:17:49 From Michelle Brenner : Thank you!! 16:17:53 From Emily Colucci : Thank you! 16:17:56 From Jim Allard : Thank you 16:17:56 From Lesley - Springvale PL : Thank you !