15:17:13 From Sharon : This may have been discussed already; when your library reopens, will young children be allowed? Any age restrictions? 15:18:39 From Lesley Unger-Mochrie : We are not opening our children's room until, possibly, August or later. We are providing take it bags for families. 15:19:39 From Charity Williams : I'd like to know as well, but with the new strand going around, I'd be really uneasy about letting young children into the library 15:21:05 From Marcela Peres : Wow. 15:21:10 From Kate Glezen Cutko : We have a separate entrance to the children's room and I'm considering one family unit at a time. 15:21:27 From Charity Williams : eek thats awhile 15:22:09 From FCL Staff : Clearly I'm not alone, but we're running out of time and facing increasing pressure to reopen. Any sense when the state might weigh in on the draft checklist? 15:24:16 From Bernie : what happens to our delivery if we are not staffed for awhile. YCCC is remaining closed for undetermined time 15:24:52 From Charity Williams : has anyone thought of opening a library by appoinment only? 15:25:19 From Holly Williams : @Charity--that's the 3rd stage of my plan after starting curbside. 15:25:31 From Kathleen Kramer, Harrison Village Library : @Charity yes, I am planning that 15:25:35 From Charity Williams : awesome! 15:25:53 From Harolyn Hylton : Can Van pick up take filled bins to their warehouse? Space is an issue of storing ILLs 15:27:23 From Angie-Skowhegan : Is the state collecting library's reopening plans? Should we be submitting them somewhere? 15:27:33 From Charity Williams : i have a question. How much heat can books take without damaging them? 15:28:29 From Charity Williams : my point is, ive been reading that high heat destroys coronavirus 15:29:02 From ypl : Hope they're ready for a tidal wave 15:29:10 From Chip Schrader : Fahrenheit 450 15:29:12 From Jeff Cabral : Good. That's what is needed. 15:29:26 From Karen Eger : Ha! 15:29:28 From Jen Alvino : They don't know who theyre messing with! 15:29:31 From James Jackson Sanborn : @chip-- I was going to make the same joke! 15:29:32 From Susan Witt : Good one, Chip! 15:29:36 From npl : Yahoo! 15:29:37 From Courtney Sparks : (rolling up my sleeves) 15:29:39 From Chip Schrader : :) 15:29:50 From quint : guidance form or compliance form ?? 15:29:53 From Charity Williams : thats like oven temps! 15:30:01 From Susan Preece : They have no idea what they are up against! 15:30:51 From Jennifer at Fort Fairfield : YES!!! Oh boy, here we go! and yes, polite, but thorough. 15:31:23 From Charity Williams : oh nevermind chip, i thought you were replying to my question. Now I feel really embarrassed 15:31:54 From Chip Schrader : sorry, nI forgot my joke emiji 15:32:13 From Chip Schrader : emoji 15:32:15 From Jeff Cabral : I wonder if they mean the link/form to be considered an essential business or something else, but I think it's incredibly positive and necessary that libraries can have a united voice and direct channel to DECD. I always felt it was unfortunate and unfair that the whole sector plan gets laid at the doorstep of MSL without the State Govt taking any lead on this. They need to understand the vast range of what we do, which is what Jamie is saying. 15:32:16 From Jennifer at Fort Fairfield : How many different industries we overlap in the same kind of services! 15:33:59 From Jeff Cabral : When I say 'State Govt' I mean DECD and Governor's office, of course. MSL has done an incredible job wading through so much on its own. 15:34:14 From Deborah Clark : https://www.maine.gov/msl/libs/documents/ConsiderationListforDiscussionsAroundRe-Opening-May12v2.pdf 15:39:47 From Julie Sells : Are volunteers considered staff? Can we ask the vulnerable volunteers not to work at the library? 15:40:16 From Lisa Shaw : For purposes of this guidance, volunteers and staff are the same. 15:40:29 From Lisa Shaw : Basically it means "people working on behalf of the library." 15:41:03 From Julie Sells : Thanks. 15:41:11 From Lisa Shaw : You are welcome! :) 15:41:20 From Lisa Shaw : Good point to add in. 15:42:17 From Bernie : I hate to say it, but what about use/safety of rest rooms? 15:42:45 From Lisa Shaw : Bernie, that is touched on under limited building use a little further down. 15:42:50 From Charity Williams : what did i miss? had to go afk for 5 minutes 15:43:13 From James Ritter : This just in... Provides context on IMLS/OCLC/Battelle efforts: https://www.webjunction.org/explore-topics/COVID-19-research-project.html 15:43:28 From Charity Williams : oh! thank you! 15:43:49 From Andrea DeBiase : Who decides if a volunteer is "healthy enough?" 15:44:17 From Lisa Shaw : Andrea: The volunteer is expected to self-disclose. 15:44:51 From Charity Williams : I agree with Andrea 15:44:57 From Lisa Shaw : There is only so much you can ask about health conditions. 15:45:31 From Lisa Shaw : We have included links to further information about that under a Resources section. 15:45:32 From Beth Kane : please elaborate on "Has the library's attorney or insurance agent been consulted regarding potential liability concerns related to remote check-out services?" 15:45:37 From Andrea DeBiase : I have older volunteers who are risk takers in general...is it their decision? 15:45:47 From Barb Rehmeyer : What are people doing for how many minutes people are allowed to visit? 15:46:10 From Charity Williams : Lisa, good point, if we ask too much, they will feel their privacy is being violated 15:46:12 From quint : outside air is the best - fan blowing is the worse 15:46:40 From Lisa Shaw : Beth: In some cases, people do home deliveries. That should be cleared, optimally, with insurance, in case they are in an accident, for example, while delivering books. 15:47:07 From Lisa Shaw : Barb: That will be up to the library (re: time limits) 15:47:18 From Matthew Graff : "Has the library's attorney or insurance agent been consulted regarding potential liability concerns related to remote check-out services?" This is arguably outside the realm of normal library. Inform your insurance/attorney about your interest in doing this and ask for their feedback. 15:47:25 From Barb Rehmeyer : I was just curious what others are doing? 15:48:15 From Lisa Shaw : @Barb: Gotcha! :) 15:48:19 From Pam : Is anyone aware if an app or other method to issue a warning/beep if someone comes within their 6 feet of safety? 15:48:26 From Lesley Unger-Mochrie : NH Governor's Universal Guidelines for re-opening is calling for: "Document the temperature of all employees daily before their shift: Employers should take the termperature of their employees on-site..." 15:49:19 From Amy Levine : LHO info isn't necessarily up to date 15:49:25 From Lisa Shaw : @Lesley - You will want to check that with your town/board. In some cases, taking a temperature is considered a "medical exam" per the Society for Human REsource Management. 15:50:29 From Lesley Unger-Mochrie : @Lisa - it seems so radical to have to be responsible to do that. I'm glad that it's just New Hampshire 15:50:35 From Mary Lou : For contact tracing...if someone comes in to let you know or call you to let you know they are positive, do you have to follow the same guidelines (for employee say). 15:50:50 From Carver Library : Our staff is so small, we might have to close completely for at least two weeks if someone is positive. 15:51:42 From Lisa Shaw : @Mary Lou: Our best information and research on that shows that if the person has tested positive, their health care provider has contacted Maine CDC and their contact tracers take it from there. 15:52:18 From Marcela Peres : This doc links to the RAILS guidelines, which include this "UPDATE as of 5/12/20: Recent information suggests that the virus may live longer then 3-days on some materials. Up to a 7-day quarantine is now recommended. " Where is this new guidance coming from, and does MSL back this also? 15:52:21 From Jennifer at Fort Fairfield : https://www.webjunction.org/explore-topics/COVID-19-research-project.html 15:52:26 From Mary Lou : thanks Lisa! 15:52:26 From Lisa Shaw : @Carver - yes, that is a possibility but it depends on the severity of contact. 15:53:01 From Dana Chevalier : any word on whether MSL will be using any of the IMLS funds to provide PPE or plexi shield to libraries? 15:53:14 From Lisa Shaw : @Marcela - We are monitoring that, but there is as of now no documentation supporting the seven-day uarantine. 15:53:20 From Lisa Shaw : *quarantine 15:53:39 From Jane Boyle : Going to restaurants in open counties the governor has put in place rules for contact tracing if a patron or employee test positive . Are there plans of how the library will address this? Restaurants are to take names of patrons...Will the libraries be expected to do this as well? 15:53:47 From Hope Rumpca-Shafer : Is there an easy counter app to keep track of the number of people in the library? 15:54:21 From Lisa Shaw : @Jane - the CDC will contact the library if they need to do contact tracing. 15:54:40 From Jane Boyle : Thanks 15:54:42 From Heidi Grimm : And for not collecting fines for a while also. 15:54:46 From Lisa Shaw : You are very welcome! 15:54:56 From Charity Williams : im just wondering, if your required to wear a mask, how does one go about eating at a restaurant? 15:54:56 From SIES Library : until the report is available, do we quarantine for 72 hours and assume it is safe to shelf the item? 15:55:17 From Tammy @ WPL : I would find it helpful for there to be some discussion about what to do with holds from other libraries that have been hold for several weeks and what we should do with them for our own patrons as we imagine in library lending coming online 15:55:18 From Lisa Shaw : @SIES - that is the vetted, verifiable information we have at this time. 15:55:31 From Lisa Shaw : If that changes, you will all be notified immediately. 15:56:51 From ypl : WELL, now. 15:57:35 From Lesley Unger-Mochrie : Georgia's re-opening plan indicates their libraries quarantine for 5-7 days 15:57:44 From Jennifer at Fort Fairfield : Inside a closed book. A stack of damp pages stays damp longer. 15:58:03 From Matthew Graff : A ways in the future, but do we have any legal standing to deny entry to someone who is not wearing a mask? If not, we may likely be obligated to provide masks to our patrons if necessary. 15:58:08 From Dana Chevalier : For small staff running ragged, is it acceptable to keep the doors locked so as not to exceed maximum allowable patrons inside the building? (when the time comes). Not enough staff to have a door monitor/patron regulator. 15:58:15 From Brian Cote : Does anyone have any sort of software they are intending to use specifically for managing curbside pickups? 15:58:33 From asmanager : Becky Bilby, director of Sioux Center library in Iowa has been using a 7-day quarantine all along. 15:58:52 From Hope Rumpca-Shafer : We have been quarantining everything for 14 days based on a February study. 15:59:01 From alice olson : Do magazines fall into that 72 hours as well? 15:59:03 From Pat Curley : Can we stop having people sign in to use the computer for internet use while we are going through this? 15:59:05 From Jennifer at Fort Fairfield : We have been using 14 days quarantine for everything. 15:59:06 From Lisa Shaw : @Matthew - a question for your legal advisor, but if you want to enforce masks, be sure to have it on record in your policies and posted for visitors. 15:59:24 From alisia.revitt@maine.edu : @Dana, if the doors are openable from the inside that would be acceptable, but if they are locked so they can't open from the inside that would be against fire safety. 15:59:43 From Lisa Shaw : @Dana - check with your code officer. 15:59:55 From Matthew Graff : Understood. Per the gove on April 31(?): "Starting Friday, everyone in Maine who enters a public place where physical distancing is difficult to maintain will be required to wear a cloth face mask or covering to help prevent the spread of COVID-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus." Squishy... 16:00:22 From Lisa Shaw : Very squishy, and the State has little recourse at this time. 16:01:23 From Deborah Clark : https://www.maine.gov/msl/libs/Re-OpeningMaineLibraries.shtml 16:01:33 From Jen Alvino : @Hope there is a counter app. If you search the app store for "counter" there are some that come up 16:01:36 From Stacy @ Bailey : children are including on wearing masks? 16:02:04 From Irene Hall - Witherle, Castine : Children 2 and up 16:02:15 From Alex @ Lewiston Public Library : Maine InfoNet Question: Auburn and Lewiston have been doing reciprocal borrowing before the new pilot this year. How will local use only holds affect Lewiston patrons that want to borrow Auburn items and vice versa? 16:02:20 From Stacy @ Bailey : nightmare :( 16:02:24 From Charity Williams : I don't thing my children will be going anywhere...they won't wear masks 16:02:41 From Susan Witt : I haven't looked into this yet, but it is supposedly a curbside app. https://www.conversight.ai/libro-curbside/?fbclid=IwAR0VF9f35GiJo9Y7A5hhUwnUA9R3_6CJ0Q2W9amdH0SDNBwV9ZWJ5aVHIK8 16:03:01 From Lisa Shaw : @Stacy - that is something that you would address at your library with your policies - whether you want to enforce that or not. 16:03:14 From Brenda Reynolds : At what point do you say “materials cannot be guaranteed virus free, use at your own risk”? 16:03:29 From alisia.revitt@maine.edu : @Alex As part of our opening instructions, we have been considering how it will change for libraries with close relationships like that 16:03:42 From Alex @ Lewiston Public Library : Thank you Alisia. 16:03:47 From Lisa Shaw : @Brenda: It's worth posting sign on your door that has that disclaimer. People are using materials/entering t their own risk. 16:03:49 From Harper C : Also regarding the masks -- there is an exception for people who may have medical reasons that prevent them from wearing masks, but similar to the use of service animals, there are legally only a very few questions we can ask 16:03:50 From Cindy Appleby : I've bought Appointment Plus which is what the town is using for town hall appointments. I haven't started using it yet. 16:03:50 From Dana Chevalier : @alisia.revitt. Yes. People can freely leave. it only prevents people from entering. 16:04:19 From alisia.revitt@maine.edu : We'll be in touch to talk about it, but if you want to send in a ticket, we'll have a placeholder to talk to you about it 16:04:49 From Susan Preece : I asked my board to approve an Emergency Procedures Policy. It allows me to require masks (among other things)--if folks don't want to wear they must use curbside only... 16:05:01 From SHWA : For masks - our languge for having someone enter the buidling is that masks are required. However, I was informed by the town that due to HIPA regulations, we are forbidden from enforcing the mask policy if someone refuses to wear it - and we cannot ask why they cannot wear a mask. 16:05:07 From asmanager : Good plan, Susan. 16:05:07 From Heidi Grimm : That's a good workaround, Susan. 16:05:56 From asmanager : PFL is also working on an addendum to our Patron Code of Conduct re: COVID-19 16:05:57 From alisia.revitt@maine.edu : No, it wouldn't be possible cancel non-local holds 16:06:00 From Cindy Appleby : That's what I would think, SHWA 16:06:01 From Harper C : @SHWA Yes, exactly. 16:06:16 From Kathleen Kramer, Harrison Village Library : @ Susan would you please share that policy on the Pub Lib Directors list serve? 16:07:02 From Clare Davitt : @SHWA is correct. We're dealing with this at the City level (I'm on the Bangor City Council) with how it will work allowing people into City Hall again and we cannot require masks of someone who says they can't wear one. And they are not required to say why. 16:07:16 From Merrill Memorial Library : Why not just clear all the holds and start from scratch? Most of these holds are 8 weeks old 16:07:18 From alisia.revitt@maine.edu : You'll see the usual "fulfil hold" / "do not fulfil hold" / "Cancel hold" choice. And you'll want to check in, but do not fulfil hold 16:07:39 From alisia.revitt@maine.edu : that way the hold still exists, but it won't be put immediately "in transit" 16:07:43 From SHWA : We are back to fulfilling holds 8 16:07:50 From SHWA : (this is Josh in Gray, FYI) 16:08:03 From SHWA : so dumping all hlds would remove those holds that my patrons are currently putting on my items. 16:08:35 From Merrill Memorial Library : Oh yeah, true Josh 16:08:38 From Holly Williams : @James--the checkin, do not fulfill hold was clear! Thanks! 16:08:53 From alisia.revitt@maine.edu : If you have questions about holds or a special relationship with another library or an odd situation that you want clarified, you can always send in a ticket! 16:09:08 From SHWA : Minerva Circ will be working on this in the very near future. 16:09:26 From SHWA : I hope that by the time more libraries come back on line, we will have a solid path forward to reduce the confusion that will come. 16:09:44 From Jennifer at Fort Fairfield : It was the same that Jamie Ritter shared earlier 16:09:44 From James Jackson Sanborn : Agreed, Josh. 16:10:29 From Steve : In practice, the new Minerva holds process is not terribly complicated or squishy (so far). 16:10:49 From SHWA : With 3 libraries going live with holds in Minerva to date, what could go wrong? 16:11:03 From Andrea DeBiase : is the bottom line for volunteers that they decide if they want to take the risk? 16:11:21 From asmanager : Thank you, James. 16:11:47 From Ann Dyer : Many of our patrons have expiration dates of May 3 (end of term). Will due date extensions work for all of those patrons? Do we need to update expiration dates? 16:11:54 From alisia.revitt@maine.edu : @Steve @SHWA (aka Josh). Basically: expect weirdness, pay attention, use common sense, do your best 16:12:01 From Lisa Shaw : @Andrea - You have a right to ask if they are experiencing symptoms and if they are in a vulnerable subset of people, but not much more. 16:13:12 From Lisa Shaw : @James - It's like Calvinball. :) 16:13:14 From alice olson : We want to limit numbers of people in the library at one time working, so do not plan on having volunteers back for a while, particularly for that reason. Also, with one person working at a time. we have a clear handle on what has been touched and when. We are starting out with curbside but this will prob still apply when we do reopen to the public. 16:13:24 From Jackie B : Will you be updating the open status page? 16:13:25 From Bernie : @AnnDyer--YCCC has the same issue 16:13:54 From Dana Chevalier : any word on whether MSL will be using any of the IMLS funds to provide PPE or plexi shield to libraries? 16:14:13 From Lisa Shaw : @Jackie - we will try. That relies heavily on libraries self-reporting. 16:14:42 From James Jackson Sanborn : For the Academic libraries in Minerva/MILS, please let us know which dates you would like extended and which you do not want extended. 16:15:11 From Elise M, Acton : Same question as Dana C. Our budget year is closing and we will not be able to hold our spring fundraiser, a big one for us. 16:15:12 From Lauren Gargani : Thanks James! 16:15:15 From James Jackson Sanborn : due to the nature of student patrons, I can imagine that some academics would not want to extend, while others would 16:15:31 From Elise M, Acton : “any word on whether MSL will be using any of the IMLS funds to provide PPE or plexi shield to libraries? 16:16:19 From Mary Lou : Our signature requirement is more about people agreeing to the AUP before they use a computer. If you are signing in most of your regular customers coming up, they should already know the AUP and requirements (ie, no porn!) 16:16:30 From quint : who is our zoom question person ? 16:16:39 From Jennifer at Fort Fairfield : Yes please on the cloth masks!! 16:17:02 From Carver Library : I think we probably all want cloth masks! 16:17:13 From Dana Chevalier : masks, gloves, sanitizer, etc? 16:17:15 From Elise M, Acton : Yes, fixing a DUNS# nightmare now 16:17:44 From Lisa Shaw : @Elise - Ugh! Wishing you luck with that! 16:17:52 From Ruth Eveland : Yes to cloth face coverings, please! 16:18:45 From Nancy : I am wondering how people count how many people use the computers without having them sign in, like Pat Curley was talking about. 16:18:48 From Nancy Petersons-Mechanic Falls : yes to the cloth masks from us! 16:18:54 From Susan Schroeder : Disinfecting wipes would be great if possible! 16:19:08 From Nina Woodward : Yes to disinfecting wipes! 16:19:40 From Ann Thomas : Friend Memorial in Brooklin says "yes" to cloth face coverings too. Thanks! 16:19:49 From Dana Chevalier : yes to any sanitizing supplies, hand sanitizer, and gloves particularly! 16:19:57 From Liz Davis : Thanks, Janet!! About Beanstack! 16:20:01 From Barb Rehmeyer : Will funding source be a reimbursement such for plexiglass for barrier? Or will it be for future supplies? 16:20:01 From stratton public library : yes also to masks, gloves and wipes and antibacterial 16:20:25 From Elise M, Acton : yes to masks, gloves and wipes and antibacterial 16:20:27 From Susan Schroeder : yes to all of above PPE...no money here! 16:20:29 From Erika : Yes, cloth masks and gloves and wipes would be great! 16:20:47 From Mercer : masks, gloves, hand sanitizer, wipes to Mercer please 16:20:48 From Lisa Shaw : Aaaand he's back! 16:20:49 From James Ritter : I'm back! 16:20:53 From Jared : Probably this week! 16:21:35 From Liz Davis : Wonderful! 16:21:47 From Mary Lou : I bought computer keyboard covers. I would suggest instead of spending the $$ on these, just buy the plastic bowl covers for leftovers at the grocery store. They are the same damn thing! 16:22:21 From Jane Boyle : Thanks Mary for the hot tip.! 16:22:43 From Charity Williams : WOW! Do they really fit over the keyboards though? 16:22:49 From Nancy Petersons-Mechanic Falls : to Mary Lou-explain the plastic bowl covers! 16:23:18 From quint : gloves, wipes for Stewart Public pls 16:23:54 From Nancy : Yes also to masks, gloves and wipes and antibacterial for Lubec too, thanks. 16:24:33 From Elise M, Acton : @Mary Lou. So basicaly a shower curtain? 16:24:45 From Elise M, Acton : Meant shower cap!! 16:24:54 From Mary Lou : Basically...a shower cap 16:24:59 From michelle conroy : Yes to all sanitizing and cleaning products please 16:25:26 From Bernie : Will the access to potential ppe for public libraries only? 16:25:48 From Lisa Shaw : @Bernie - Are you wondering about schools/academics? 16:25:54 From Michelle FKPL : PPE and cleaning supplies needed here too, at the FKPL. 16:26:06 From Bernie : @Lisa, academic, yes 16:26:23 From Lisa Shaw : Presumably they will be covered under their institution 16:26:31 From Lisa Shaw : But as with everything, we will monitor that 16:26:36 From Susan Preece : Thanks, all! 16:26:38 From Tammy @ WPL : Thanks, y'all! :) 16:26:43 From Liz Davis : Thank you! Be well! 16:26:44 From Nina Woodward : Thank you 16:26:45 From Bernie : Thanks Lisa 16:26:48 From Ann Thomas : Thank you! 16:26:50 From Pam : Thank you, All !!! 16:26:50 From Steve : Thanks! 16:26:50 From Lisa Shaw : YVW! 16:26:50 From nperry@baileylibrary.org : Thank you! 16:26:50 From Learning Commons Librarians : Thank you :) 16:26:52 From Susan Schroeder : Thanks do much, Janet and the whole MSL team. You guys rock! 16:26:52 From Jen De salme : Thank you, all! 16:26:53 From Cara Sawyer : Thank you everyone for ALL you do! 16:26:53 From Joanna Hynd : Thank you! 16:26:54 From Karen Eger : Thank you! 16:26:54 From Leila Roy : thank you! 16:26:57 From Chip Schrader : Thank you 16:26:57 From Korina Lee : Thank you! 16:26:57 From Juan Condori : Thanks! 16:26:59 From asmanager : Thanks, everyone! 16:27:00 From Linda : thank you all 16:27:01 From nomeservier : Thank you! 16:27:01 From Elise M, Acton : Thank you… 16:27:01 From Jane Boyle : Thanks for having these weekly sessions Janet! 16:27:04 From stratton public library : Tank you 16:27:06 From Harolyn Hylton : Thanks!!! 16:27:07 From Cheryl Hevey : Thank you! 16:27:07 From Wendy : Thank You Fearless Leaders! 16:27:08 From michelle conroy : Thank you 16:27:09 From kathleen : thanks! 16:27:11 From Jennifer at Fort Fairfield : Thank you! 16:27:12 From Caroline Ward-Nesbit, Thomaston : Thank you! 16:27:12 From Nancy : Thanks! 16:27:16 From Lauren : Thanks!