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Leave the camera.
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We don't need the camera.
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We could turn the camera off and just put share the yeah, sure.
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The show.
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Yeah, there it is.
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Sure.
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Look at that.
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Can we do it like a double?
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Can I format that and just yeah, I would think you sorry.
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But each one on each.
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If you could put one on each page and then put 2 pages up, I think that'll look nice like make them bigger and put one on each page and then do the two pages you really want the agenda showing too, or just just the hierarchies?
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I don't know if these are that they're still working for us.
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What's that now?
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But are you standing up for us, too?
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What else do you?
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We're gonna have mikes.
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We're gonna have.
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We're gonna act as if they're gonna be people here.
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We're gonna have room, mites, room mites.
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We do have room mites, but if are your speakers going to be right here, well, we might know.
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We're kind of thinking that like if people are coming, we want them to be able to just talk, to interact.
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Yeah, you know what?
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So I'll leave the room mics on.
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Then you know we could do all those babies right up here.
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I think that's what we should do too.
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We can just have a little we can all sit here, have.
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Then I'll sit here and have a link right here.
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I mean, these roommates are extremely hot, so they'll pick you up.
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I mean, but will it bounce around too?
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It's an empty room.
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Sure.
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Now we've got it pretty well fight you fancy stuff.
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Just listen to this room.
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It better work.
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Yeah, I still, I still wanna move the chairs.
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I think we should.
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I think we should, but maybe we should make like a like a circle like circle.
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Yeah, that'll seem like nice.
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Yeah, like very good.
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We're welcoming this is the new DP.
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That's not to be confused with the old.
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One more.
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Ohh OK.
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This guy's favorite game show up, I should turns around with chairs.
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It's like you can if you, if you're like, stumble little stumbling on your feet.
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You're like, stabilize yourself. Absolutely.
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Make it having an effect on the world.
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Been working on making it look better.
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Yeah, I'm here if you want.
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I think we want the two page.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, that's exactly what we want.
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And I'm gonna try to fix this and an increase the if we if we want to have that.
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So you can see it, we have to increase the font.
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Yeah, that's next step, right.
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You're on when you're doing it.
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Now all you know, we're access this little layer in here, right?
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If I'm going to let people in and stuff.
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There.
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Uh, that's interesting.
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Look at Megan screen, she says the same screen is that.
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Is that yeah, it's exactly the same.
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So when I when people enter, I'll let them come in through this.
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Well, I'll show you one.
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So on which makes me want to think that be there what we wanna do is pull that up on someone else's computer.
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Gently and and then share and allow me to present.
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Pull it up on my computer.
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Allow me to present and so that my computer is doing this and on your computer you can see the other screens and that's what we want to do.
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Alright.
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I'll have to go to my car again.
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So now if you get that all set up, we're gonna mess with that.
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Uh, you've gotta you have your.
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Our code.
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So I can let people off screen, right?
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That would be a.
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That be ideal.
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It was if I've written for gender mode like you can let me in and let me share screen I believe, and then you'll be able to do the controls and then my street presenters, right.
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But the prob nice one.
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Break the all red and he will be drove my couch either.
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That's how many itself to the broken bricks since 4:00 AM.
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That's not so.
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Find you know because it keeps working.
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I wonder if some painkillers it's.
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I missed my mom and she was not much.
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Yeah, probably not enough.
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Ahead considering, I mean, imagine breaking your hand.
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Yeah, this hand I saw, I saw that he was insignificant under.
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Don't forget we are doing.
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Don't forget what you know.
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Let's not get to tell Robbie password wrong password.
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Please.
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Yeah.
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What time do you folks officially start anyway?
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To to officially.
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And I hope somebody shows up in person.
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Otherwise did a lot of driving.
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I didn't work with so we could I.
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It's worth talking to totally.
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Great time and we have to use this.
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Nice.
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You can use this. Yeah.
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Yeah, I had to get him out of the park.
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Doesn't get too hot.
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It was.
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I was thinking that, yeah, I have chocolate chips in that thing and I didn't like.
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Although I will say that the perfect temperature to eat chocolate is.
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Yeah, just trying to be a little bit melty.
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Hey.
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Huh.
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Yeah, working at tea tea.
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That doesn't too, but if you don't have tea, yes, you get more flavor.
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If it's not, if it's a little bit warm, it's true.
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You know the higher number, that was beautiful.
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OK, send it.
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Send it to me.
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Same enzyme?
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That's.
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I'm gonna sign up for this.
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On it.
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I guess that's Internet.
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I even get you off from the beginning.
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Internet. Yeah.
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First Yep.
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OK.
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Are you are we switching to your computer for the meeting?
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No, we're just gonna put your.
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We're gonna put.
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Yeah, 100.
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And then so then he can.
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I'll use that because you need rope computer to do the because he's the controller.
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But you can you can share presenting with me.
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I can share my screen so that we can just leave that.
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I'm good.
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This is different, I know.
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I was like having.
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That's why I was like, just send it to the top.
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So I can just see everything, yes.
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I didn't have a subject line, but I just need that.
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Need to step.
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Yes.
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I'm saying it.
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Did you ever get your office?
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You know, just asking about said, yeah.
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No, but my husband brought one of these, like dark chocolate, almond butter stuffed friends.
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Oh my God.
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Freddy most amazing thing.
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He was like test test 12121.
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They do this stuff to us.
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Umm, but peanuts because he didn't?
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No, it's defective faulting.
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That's fun for sure.
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This one appears to be working.
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There's mute button on top of it.
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The nice thing about actually being hooked up to the room?
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Any audio that goes out through these mics, this mic will pass to your computer as long as you haven't selected as your mic input it in teams.
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OK, that's the fact.
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So now I gotta figure out they're trying for the meeting.
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Will it?
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It's probably in.
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If I go to right, I gotta go to one of the things David or sent out. Yeah.
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It's here.
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Agenda.
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Maybe if I just, I'm just gonna go to sent emails, right?
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What do you look?
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What that the agenda that does it come from Dave Midor the proximately state?
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There it is.
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Yeah.
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I mean waste plan now.
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English battle.
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What's it gonna come?
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But it's gonna come from like maybe.
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They've been stepped on.
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Looks like they're gonna document like there's a weird.
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Ohh, it does they're third page you go third page.
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We're gonna outnumber my Draper.
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Right now follow this link.
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Yep.
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Been treated very well here, yes.
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You registered.
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To get the India ohh no, I just I said that.
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Thank you for joining.
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Duration has been ohh ship.
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But I just said I was gonna attend in person.
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Good job.
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Can I change your name?
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Riley got the head.
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You have to register again.
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Can't be registered, but funny, but an idiot.
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Will you guys cut that out?
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Well, that's just funny things that are just so.
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Well, yeah.
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You, you, you all there.
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Your phone went off.
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What I was like outside because I thought about it.
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I was like in person or not like.
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Yeah, I'm here.
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Yeah, I'm loving person.
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From Riley, are you there?
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Intimate email or shoots cover trouble registering well.
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There were 32 people registered, not 31 when I started.
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Maybe she didn't understand.
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OK, so now you gotta let me in.
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So we're splitting it, Jim. Huh.
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They're practice letting in.
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Your I am admit, uh, so you can do it right there.
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Maybe you don't even need, but when do you?
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When do you wanna speak?
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Yeah.
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Maybe we want to do it this way.
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Just please, we have to change your.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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You don't you you need to talk about that.
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Sorry.
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Say that again.
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Sorry, you should be a different kind of.
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I've been watching those are in teams.
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Yeah.
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Anybody else in the show?
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You is joining me?
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Eventually we'll wanna make sure they're gonna be self.
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Self that yes and here they take any pictures like this.
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Yeah, it's more picture they do, yeah.
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OK.
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Yeah.
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Fracture huge son of a gun.
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Did they give you?
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They can't give any advice that. Yeah.
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Yeah, Jim, how will come come.
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Let's do this.
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Do you know what you wanna do?
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Is you wanna give.
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So couple years ago, seven years, which is a neurological, so they are calling, they think it's time to call you the thing that's very some medication married that though OK you have to contact them.
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I would say and also starring here, right?
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Now God, absolutely changing the insurance stuff.
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Yeah, 7 just it's pretty cool start this year.
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Stop sharing and then constructing United States of the ship.
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The four hour drive home.
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Well, then you hopefully they can find something to give me.
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That's when my yeah.
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You go over people's it, show you something.
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We have been to.
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I'm sorry.
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Here, she's in.
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Yeah, I want bigger question here.
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I don't.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Shoot that as well.
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You gotta be very good.
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Any kind of medical thing they have, I seen it.
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Make sure that you had it.
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No, no.
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Well, I'm right here.
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Do you wanna go to settings?
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Make sure the mics are actually back audio in the computer that they start you drive.
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It's alright.
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Got.
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Yeah, set.
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I sent Rob.
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Rob said I nice to meet you.
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Rob got fresh and really had fractured.
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That's what I heard walking in just now.
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Did they give you any ice, Prescott?
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'S top they give me ice.
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Yeah, they can't give me any.
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Did they go out there?
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So you should be setting out the room mics.
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Like I said in that MIC as well, should we thank you into the teams Saint Mary telling him we're touching.
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We're ready for some assist.
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Ohh.
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Very request to join.
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OK, you want married Beneski?
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We'll let him.
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Ohh.
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He didn't, Henry.
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OK, I wanna hang up.
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I got you, alright.
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You know this is, yeah.
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So.
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Hope, she said.
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So she doesn't.
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What's going on?
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We're trying to make you a presenter.
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No, I'm married.
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We wanna make me a presenter.
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OK, so if you go to participants?
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Up top?
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What's your life?
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Yep, calling right.
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It should bring them up on the on the right.
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And here.
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OK.
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And you got this like this.
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Ohh yeah, click participating right and now you can pull me up as a presenter but.
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I mean, I can make you a presenter, but I'd rather they do a.
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So that was a right click on that right click.
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OK, now I'm a presenter.
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Well, I you learned something.
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However, now really share our first take.
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So where do I show you with thank you so much?
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Uh, it's our first click on the word.
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I'm I'm getting a call from the teams meeting.
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Not gonna entertains.
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You think I should but ohh sorry.
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No, no, no, it's OK.
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That was me.
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I did that.
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How do we get to that screen that we just had?
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Yeah.
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What are we trying to?
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What do we wanna do now?
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To to where it was showing, we want to see the screen that was showing.
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Who's the participants and who's the presenter and stuff?
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OK.
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He wants that screen.
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Have to get my glasses that I can tell.
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If you click on, if you click on mine says people.
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I don't remember.
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You say people are are participants at the top.
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Ohh, why is he on hold?
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There we go.
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Welcome back.
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But one he said you were on hold.
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I got a little nervous.
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You were on hold, right?
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I was nervous.
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Do you wanna have the camera on?
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So people can see people in the meeting or like, get an overview of the I was gonna say is I give one of these cameras point at the table to show the body comes.
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Don't think we'll have more than one.
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Here.
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Yeah, but it did.
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Here, now it's easy enough.
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He counts as like 3 or 4, right?
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He does.
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We'll see.
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You see right on the on the Board of protection.
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No, it's not anymore.
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Not anymore.
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What do you want?
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Right.
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And you runs a.
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So cooperative landfill for about 10:50.
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We want they're ready for me to share.
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I can share.
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Alright.
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I'm gonna try this.
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Can you hear us?
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The window share.
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He doesn't flinch, shines light after Brian can hear us.
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And we.
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I can hear you.
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Ohh OK, we can hear you too.
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It's pretty good.
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Yes, sorry I'm I'm I'm also finishing up this email here.
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OK, take your time.
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Don't have your attention?
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Great.
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No, we don't need this attention.
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Ohh.
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We just need married.
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It just just shout.
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No.
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Yo, Brian, when you need me.
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No worry, now you get on the screen anyway.
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I'm wearing.
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They're not yet.
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My bathroom trying to I don't really know the broken hand this morning.
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What's that?
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Rob broke his hand this morning, then drove to freestyle with his hand broken from Scott.
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Oh my God.
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Rob, how did you break your hand?
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Was getting ready to leave early, about four this morning and it was that just start letting Garland and I went into the shed that grabbed some supplies and big concrete piece that I didn't put in there someone else before us.
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And like they did, that rolled off the shelf and hit my hand.
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Ohh my God, how bad is it broken?
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Ah.
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Lights.
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Instead of the proxy just above the middle metacarpal, so I just went to the clinic and they gave me a really cool breaks better than the one he had.
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Ah.
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The the ace bandage that I had before, but they didn't want painkillers.
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They thought he was a little bit sketchy.
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Look. Yeah.
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He said this guy, maybe he's looking for.
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He just went and broke his hand to try to get some painkillers.
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Yeah.
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So I.
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How?
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Ohh.
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Yeah.
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Like, yeah, make this bigger.
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Why is Megan?
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Is this A is this?
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Can you join with my partners?
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It says that I accepted your post.
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Should I?
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But I you're not in.
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So do I.
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Maybe I can't zoom because of the because of what he's trying to do inside you.
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Yeah, that's why are you doing that or?
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Yeah, you're doing that.
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But when I do multiple pages, I'm just gonna see what happens.
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Like that's OK, we're all sitting here.
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We're just gonna have people pull up a chair like now I can right.
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There you go.
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Very informal.
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It does looks like I'm reading it gets people talking.
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It does.
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It gets me talking.
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It doesn't make US staff.
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That's right.
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That's right.
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Yeah, actually like the whole agenda doesn't show on the upper left that take away much of the stuff I'm trying to remember.
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That's.
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Yeah.
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What are you doing later about.
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Yes, that's that.
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So now if I just can undo whatever I just did.
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Look.
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Is there a way to get her off life spin?
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Probably not ohk.
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You need to make.
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Why do you not see your screen?
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How do I get out of read mode?
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It's a very good question.
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Go back up to the view.
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What we're what?
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What it actually looks good on the phone screen.
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I don't know what it looks like on.
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What was the reading really OHG I know what to do.
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Ohh no, don't say it.
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Start gradually and starting again.
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I just realized I have all sorts of power, Brian.
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I can mute you.
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That's right.
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That's right.
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That's a little scary.
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Make new make, make, make people presenters are not presenters, yeah.
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That's after that you're not.
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Hey Brian, edit dot I want it noted I still drove up here.
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I didn't want the broken hand, so I should get extra credit.
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I don't know.
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I think you should have just talked about it.
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Stayed home.
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Thank you.
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Still want to the right?
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You get extra credit for that.
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Are you are you guys the only ones there right now?
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Yeah, it's.
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We didn't even bring any trash.
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Like always, bust out that piano over there.
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The piano.
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You see that the baby crib?
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Or is it a full grade?
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I don't know.
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Who's gonna fly?
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Not me.
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Thanks.
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On the meeting will start till 12.
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Let's have some entertainment.
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Evidence, rob.
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Certainly Rob can claim the play and he's got excuse.
00:22:46.330 --> 00:22:47.320
Yeah, exactly.
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Maybe not with his broken hand.
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That's it.
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There's a jazz pianist, is it?
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No.
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How much jazz drunk are you?
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Cool, that looks pretty good, don't you think?
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Yeah, I like to tell me.
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Look professional, yes.
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Yes.
00:23:05.570 --> 00:23:06.560
Hey, another news.
00:23:06.570 --> 00:23:08.480
Speaking of professional, another news too.
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Ah.
00:23:08.490 --> 00:23:12.720
Beth put up the web page for the materials management plan update.
00:23:12.730 --> 00:23:14.570
So that's all live linked, ready to go.
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Ohh, see you.
00:23:17.230 --> 00:23:18.040
Thank you very much.
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Thanks.
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Thank you.
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I think we know where to find you.
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We'll go to the bottom of the stairs and house goes West.
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90 aren't too good at high.
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Yeah.
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Just gonna not touch this, right.
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That's all we have.
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We're done with this.
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I'm gonna plug it in.
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What time I started to plug in my computer, that's good.
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Don't block 2.
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And you know how to do your job too.
00:23:48.200 --> 00:23:49.950
Ohh I'm I'm warming up to it.
00:23:51.550 --> 00:23:52.740
What are you doing now?
00:23:52.870 --> 00:23:56.100
I'm listening to people's hand, and then I'm gonna choose you.
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You get the presenters and they have through the OR where they're from, I represent better.
00:24:07.690 --> 00:24:08.300
Ohh where's that?
00:24:01.960 --> 00:24:10.120
Yeah, Jim, you also gotta remember to turn on the recording and transcription and turn it on and turn it off.
00:24:10.310 --> 00:24:11.620
Turn it off is the big thing.
00:24:11.630 --> 00:24:15.010
Beth made sure to make sure we remember to turn it off.
00:24:16.190 --> 00:24:17.460
Why we just keeps rolling?
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Yeah.
00:24:18.930 --> 00:24:19.520
Our otherwise yeah.
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That girl.
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If you don't turn it off at the end of the meeting before you end, you exit it just keeps going, yeah.
00:24:25.380 --> 00:24:26.250
So where did?
00:24:26.330 --> 00:24:28.740
Where aware is that turn on.
00:24:30.610 --> 00:24:31.800
There's yes.
00:24:32.190 --> 00:24:33.480
See that in the upper left?
00:24:34.430 --> 00:24:37.330
Ohh yeah, could we have a list?
00:24:37.340 --> 00:24:40.780
Does anyone have a list of our questions done done?
00:24:40.790 --> 00:24:43.840
The other thing we might want to how do we turn it on?
00:24:43.850 --> 00:24:45.120
My wants a list of our questions.
00:24:45.130 --> 00:24:46.320
Oh, look, we have a guest.
00:24:46.450 --> 00:24:47.230
Can you turn it off?
00:24:47.350 --> 00:24:47.750
Yeah.
00:24:48.370 --> 00:24:52.480
Yeah, but went to the left.
00:24:52.490 --> 00:24:53.060
You hit that?
00:24:53.070 --> 00:25:01.630
That's not how to go with that, because we are worried that we would have driven up here and nobody trusts margins downstairs.
00:25:01.670 --> 00:25:02.320
OK, good.
00:25:02.370 --> 00:25:05.050
Hey, you.
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But yeah, hi.
00:25:07.360 --> 00:25:08.050
Nice to see you.
00:25:08.260 --> 00:25:10.960
How are you running like 10?
00:25:11.000 --> 00:25:14.150
How do I turn the A transcription off?
00:25:16.630 --> 00:25:17.780
Ohh, you're on mute.
00:25:18.210 --> 00:25:20.160
You, you love you.
00:25:20.530 --> 00:25:20.960
Mute.
00:25:20.510 --> 00:25:20.990
I'm muting.
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Going.
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Sorry, I muted myself just at the end of meeting the same way you turned it on.
00:25:24.930 --> 00:25:25.810
Just do the same thing.
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Go over there and then.
00:25:28.060 --> 00:25:33.670
Oddly, oddly enough, it's it was on already.
00:25:36.000 --> 00:25:37.140
Yep, it is on.
00:25:38.730 --> 00:25:39.890
So how do we turn it off?
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And that's all.
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I'm not waiting here.
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When you.
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I'm already not me shifting everything.
00:25:52.520 --> 00:25:55.210
I didn't but so.
00:25:48.130 --> 00:25:57.700
When you, when you do, when you get ready to to end the meeting, when you do, there's A and you do end meeting and it will stop the recording.
00:25:58.710 --> 00:25:59.940
Yeah, OK.
00:26:00.310 --> 00:26:03.850
And if it doesn't see these guys going on over there, is it out?
00:26:04.090 --> 00:26:05.650
There's there's four of us here.
00:26:08.800 --> 00:26:09.110
Right.
00:26:09.120 --> 00:26:12.270
How do I unmute throwing and you guys are up here?
00:26:12.280 --> 00:26:17.700
Just click this little stupid, but this is my reality and basically saying that highlight.
00:26:20.540 --> 00:26:20.970
Yeah.
00:26:22.010 --> 00:26:22.210
Yeah.
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No, they're trying that.
00:26:24.810 --> 00:26:25.490
I know it's.
00:26:25.900 --> 00:26:27.630
I think he's gonna use it now.
00:26:28.590 --> 00:26:29.220
Yeah, but I was.
00:26:29.230 --> 00:26:30.460
Did you read your screen?
00:26:30.470 --> 00:26:37.350
Yeah, like, but they don't really wanna like stuff that we did not wear.
00:26:37.360 --> 00:26:38.760
My steel took yes.
00:26:38.770 --> 00:26:39.090
Really.
00:26:39.100 --> 00:26:41.500
Like that you purchased that can't do.
00:26:42.120 --> 00:26:46.700
I made a mistake of learning Nice shoots to perk and that's not gonna do.
00:26:46.710 --> 00:26:50.440
I tried to clean them afterward and well, I think they're all these.
00:26:50.450 --> 00:26:51.510
I can't even do last.
00:26:51.520 --> 00:26:55.040
They're they're all OK.
00:26:55.200 --> 00:26:56.280
You know that.
00:26:56.860 --> 00:26:57.150
Are you?
00:26:58.280 --> 00:26:59.680
I feel so bad, right?
00:27:00.490 --> 00:27:01.520
Tell me, how are you?
00:27:01.670 --> 00:27:02.370
I'm fine.
00:27:02.710 --> 00:27:04.650
Bad you.
00:27:04.660 --> 00:27:05.280
Where were you?
00:27:05.520 --> 00:27:05.820
On it.
00:27:05.830 --> 00:27:08.550
Didn't you slow or Matinicus really?
00:27:08.980 --> 00:27:12.030
Or where you would, what, Stonington.
00:27:12.050 --> 00:27:13.710
Would Stonington yeah, we did.
00:27:13.790 --> 00:27:15.350
Don't give your we can.
00:27:15.550 --> 00:27:18.440
You know, we need to just one picture. Yeah.
00:27:18.450 --> 00:27:20.840
And the kids road trip, huh?
00:27:20.890 --> 00:27:21.560
Yeah, road trip.
00:27:22.150 --> 00:27:25.990
OK, I just thought it comes to see what you guys finding soft.
00:27:26.180 --> 00:27:26.920
You were supposed to.
00:27:27.070 --> 00:27:27.700
You know, you gotta.
00:27:27.710 --> 00:27:29.480
I would also now you gotta come out.
00:27:29.590 --> 00:27:30.160
You get it?
00:27:30.170 --> 00:27:31.320
Come out, not just.
00:27:35.350 --> 00:27:37.220
See, I'm not gonna say.
00:27:37.230 --> 00:27:38.470
How do we get rid of this?
00:27:38.720 --> 00:27:39.380
The same evening?
00:27:39.490 --> 00:27:39.740
Yeah.
00:27:39.910 --> 00:27:40.570
I'd like to see you.
00:27:40.640 --> 00:27:41.070
These are the.
00:27:45.430 --> 00:27:45.910
Right here.
00:27:46.980 --> 00:27:47.570
Right there.
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I'll be there.
00:27:49.230 --> 00:27:49.820
You married?
00:27:50.150 --> 00:27:50.610
Yeah.
00:27:50.620 --> 00:27:53.570
You know, that's kind of Frank.
00:27:53.580 --> 00:27:55.650
Can you hear me that shake your head?
00:27:55.850 --> 00:27:58.130
But that's OK.
00:27:58.140 --> 00:27:59.420
Participate in the correct.
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See how.
00:28:00.610 --> 00:28:02.250
Ohh, but you never.
00:28:05.540 --> 00:28:05.980
And check it.
00:28:06.660 --> 00:28:11.340
So we ohh I don't another yes.
00:28:12.250 --> 00:28:21.170
So, and I can say that for Hank, with the packaging, no people were there.
00:28:21.580 --> 00:28:23.810
Everyone 24.
00:28:23.910 --> 00:28:24.770
Then you're finishing them.
00:28:24.780 --> 00:28:25.010
People.
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It's early.
00:28:26.440 --> 00:28:30.950
It said, yeah, well, it's the best thing that we had.
00:28:31.850 --> 00:28:32.010
Yes.
00:28:32.350 --> 00:28:33.690
I don't even know now.
00:28:34.270 --> 00:28:35.090
1st, it's not raining.
00:28:35.310 --> 00:28:36.330
That's too you have.
00:28:37.550 --> 00:28:41.400
OK, running I have measured the bottom.
00:28:41.410 --> 00:28:41.550
Yeah.
00:28:42.550 --> 00:28:42.750
No.
00:28:43.190 --> 00:28:45.560
So that's that's kinda Zachary.
00:28:45.630 --> 00:28:48.540
Is that that all fixed but and try to get to that.
00:28:48.550 --> 00:28:49.760
Yeah, like the mainstream.
00:28:50.000 --> 00:28:51.190
And I'm waiting for.
00:28:51.300 --> 00:28:55.470
Yeah, wasn't that's more about being in jail.
00:28:55.850 --> 00:28:59.820
So it's right, it just made it in the middle of the week.
00:29:00.560 --> 00:29:09.440
Work the so it is not delayed but but but they just they wanted to turn into 06 which would have been awesome.
00:29:09.770 --> 00:29:11.780
Has I also really bad?
00:29:11.820 --> 00:29:12.980
Very very I.
00:29:12.990 --> 00:29:16.800
I'm thinking about testing the you wanna trade?
00:29:17.270 --> 00:29:20.750
We, you know. Yeah, too late.
00:29:21.170 --> 00:29:22.530
Too late, too.
00:29:22.590 --> 00:29:23.660
Was gonna be here either.
00:29:23.670 --> 00:29:23.960
Yeah.
00:29:25.670 --> 00:29:31.370
Then he had the party shocking under ohh like so that took care of us pretty well.
00:29:31.620 --> 00:29:38.940
There is some like things change starting with what was your situation.
00:29:38.950 --> 00:29:40.120
Maybe this?
00:29:40.130 --> 00:29:41.010
How do we stop it?
00:29:41.100 --> 00:29:45.990
Yes, that's so my plan for this information responses.
00:29:46.200 --> 00:29:51.260
So you want this worried that yes, give and you have to test that they can.
00:29:51.390 --> 00:29:53.160
Self described so having it there.
00:29:53.200 --> 00:29:53.660
Yeah.
00:29:53.670 --> 00:29:56.470
Yeah, that that's your familiar with the.
00:29:56.480 --> 00:29:59.890
See the with started this mornings.
00:29:59.980 --> 00:30:00.600
Ohh, we started.
00:30:00.700 --> 00:30:02.890
Starting so you're transcribing all this stuff?
00:30:02.970 --> 00:30:04.000
That's what I meant.
00:30:04.050 --> 00:30:06.180
You wanna stop it? Stop.
00:30:06.190 --> 00:30:07.830
It's 12 night.
00:30:08.020 --> 00:30:10.280
I would be like because really yeah.
00:30:10.390 --> 00:30:10.740
Wanna see?
00:30:10.850 --> 00:30:11.040
Right.
00:30:11.280 --> 00:30:14.440
What if you can't really transfer transcribe?
00:30:14.500 --> 00:30:15.750
I guess you probably have come.
00:30:19.580 --> 00:30:20.740
Yeah, that was great.
00:30:20.750 --> 00:30:23.380
Yes, I did say which.
00:30:23.440 --> 00:30:25.260
Let's see something.
00:30:25.330 --> 00:30:26.920
How are you outside?
00:30:26.930 --> 00:30:29.660
Outside, they're trying to make everyone sit up here in the circle.
00:30:29.670 --> 00:30:30.360
If you don't mind.
00:30:30.370 --> 00:30:31.120
Yeah, that's fine.
00:30:31.130 --> 00:30:32.880
I just didn't know whether that's special.
00:30:33.450 --> 00:30:34.000
It is.
00:30:34.010 --> 00:30:35.300
We're all special here.
00:30:35.370 --> 00:30:36.930
You walk through the door, you're special.
00:30:38.900 --> 00:30:40.350
I know one more guys coming.
00:30:42.730 --> 00:30:42.900
Yeah.
00:30:43.730 --> 00:30:45.040
Alright, I'm learning.
00:30:45.050 --> 00:30:46.350
I know how to stop the recording.
00:30:46.430 --> 00:30:46.880
Well, I was.
00:30:47.170 --> 00:30:47.680
You're not.
00:30:48.110 --> 00:30:50.600
Let me just again, you're you're gonna just get that.
00:30:52.890 --> 00:30:53.610
How do you stop it?
00:30:54.040 --> 00:30:54.940
I think you can choose.
00:30:55.090 --> 00:30:57.030
Yeah, I didn't know.
00:30:57.040 --> 00:30:57.510
Over here.
00:30:57.520 --> 00:30:57.950
And you are?
00:30:58.100 --> 00:31:00.960
She reported this time it's your lunch.
00:31:01.030 --> 00:31:01.680
That's recording.
00:31:01.920 --> 00:31:02.970
I just had to stop drinking.
00:31:03.040 --> 00:31:04.710
That you think Jack Sky hired?
00:31:04.890 --> 00:31:07.450
It's a little bit after the first.
00:31:07.740 --> 00:31:08.850
Should I?
00:31:08.980 --> 00:31:10.140
Should I stop it now?
00:31:10.380 --> 00:31:11.940
Yeah, it's they're not.
00:31:12.150 --> 00:31:12.340
Don't.
00:31:12.600 --> 00:31:14.120
That's yeah, if you are.
00:31:14.130 --> 00:31:16.000
You're it's interesting.
00:45:32.480 --> 00:45:36.550
I municipalities having issues retaining waste contractors and staff.
00:45:37.530 --> 00:45:41.060
What materials are particularly troublesome and how should they be handled?
00:45:41.490 --> 00:45:47.750
How can we move material up the waste hierarchy reducing material use and encouraging reuse?
00:45:48.230 --> 00:45:50.820
What type of funding mechanisms are envisioned?
00:45:51.490 --> 00:45:55.500
These subjects and more are what we'd like to encourage discussion and input.
00:45:56.890 --> 00:46:00.400
Providing input is not limited to the time frame of this meeting.
00:46:00.770 --> 00:46:04.380
All are invited to submit comments via the report.
00:46:04.390 --> 00:46:16.920
Updates report updates email at main Waste Plan 2024 at main.gov at any time up until September 1, 2023.
00:46:17.010 --> 00:46:23.670
That's the time will start to really evaluate what comments we've seen and draft up the plan.
00:46:24.490 --> 00:46:29.630
All comments received will be considered for drafting the update to the materials management plan.
00:46:30.780 --> 00:46:34.380
I will now hand the meeting over to our imperson moderators.
00:46:39.600 --> 00:46:40.410
Yes indeed.
00:46:42.130 --> 00:46:42.570
Thank you.
00:46:44.180 --> 00:46:44.770
Thank you, Brian.
00:46:47.060 --> 00:46:57.440
We have the agenda and we also have kind of just threw together a bunch of potential talking points, but really kind of here to listen, give one of our introductions first.
00:47:00.210 --> 00:47:02.050
That's what's to start.
00:47:03.780 --> 00:47:08.380
Elena Bertocchi, maybe P Jim Garrett?
00:47:08.470 --> 00:47:08.870
DEP.
00:47:10.840 --> 00:47:13.000
Maybe Megan, Mr prior.
00:47:13.010 --> 00:47:14.270
Maybe not.
00:47:14.280 --> 00:47:16.770
Wayne Boy was consult show me.
00:47:16.780 --> 00:47:17.510
Right, casella.
00:47:19.160 --> 00:47:20.410
Uh John Blanchard.
00:47:20.420 --> 00:47:26.660
Catholic Charities Dixie Shaw, Catholic Charities and Mark Draper or Mr based solutions.
00:47:27.930 --> 00:47:33.960
Belgian regional director maybe there's feeling just drag with daily.
00:47:38.370 --> 00:47:40.060
That's it, you're all here.
00:47:42.150 --> 00:47:42.490
Charlie.
00:47:46.320 --> 00:47:54.850
OK, I actually don't have the agenda in front of you, but I will pull it up and three seconds or behind you anybody's I think, right, right.
00:47:54.860 --> 00:47:55.140
Right.
00:47:55.770 --> 00:48:02.870
Umm, so we were just gonna start with kind of unofficial open discussion and that's kind of where this comes in we've had.
00:48:04.270 --> 00:48:09.170
Topics ranging from you know what's needed to improve infrastructure.
00:48:09.180 --> 00:48:11.770
That's a big thing that we're thinking about.
00:48:12.090 --> 00:48:15.720
Obviously the the GPU for packaging program is another topic.
00:48:15.730 --> 00:48:20.460
I mean, we have separate stakeholder meetings for that, but can you guys hear me good?
00:48:20.570 --> 00:48:21.490
There's this for the computer.
00:48:24.540 --> 00:48:24.850
OK.
00:48:25.240 --> 00:48:26.290
OK, keep your head on.
00:48:26.300 --> 00:48:29.710
Interested in hearing about, you know what?
00:48:29.720 --> 00:48:31.760
What are the problem materials that you're dealing with?
00:48:31.770 --> 00:48:36.990
Like you're you're with Catholic charities, so you have a lot to do with they recycle, recycle. Recycle.
00:48:37.040 --> 00:48:37.770
Yeah.
00:48:37.960 --> 00:48:39.800
So we just came because we recycle.
00:48:41.240 --> 00:48:41.970
Excellent.
00:48:41.980 --> 00:48:42.360
Thank you.
00:48:42.480 --> 00:48:42.820
Tell me.
00:48:42.930 --> 00:48:48.880
So now comes like I've heard from other and it is like that you're.
00:48:49.900 --> 00:48:51.170
So we are not have garbage.
00:48:51.470 --> 00:49:00.050
It's only something roll off every well, probably two to three roll offs a month because people tend to think they're garbage, is good stuff, yeah.
00:49:01.240 --> 00:49:01.920
The bed now.
00:49:01.970 --> 00:49:02.520
So that's a.
00:49:02.590 --> 00:49:16.780
Problem and it's a very expensive at this point in time, but I basically came and get involved with different things because we we are the only large scale textile recycling business in the county.
00:49:17.350 --> 00:49:21.160
I'm not sure if we if they even have one in Bangor at this point, but we're big.
00:49:21.270 --> 00:49:31.710
We shipped £44,000 of mixed rags and shoes every four to six weeks and we've been doing that for about 10 years.
00:49:32.800 --> 00:49:34.000
Yes, there's no end to it.
00:49:34.010 --> 00:49:36.480
So all of that would have ended up in landfills only.
00:49:36.650 --> 00:49:52.430
We also operate four thrift stores and in those thrift stores there is furniture and other items that would have probably landed in landfills should there not be a place to put them in, recycle them and we recycle cardboard and we did recycle metal until our metal man died.
00:49:55.310 --> 00:49:57.100
So that would be a need for sure.
00:49:57.230 --> 00:50:13.640
So you can't just like we do recycle metal, but we we don't have a place to at this point like we my main warehouse is in Monticello and there used to be a metal man in Monticello, Eric, who passed away and his wife didn't wanna do it too long.
00:50:13.890 --> 00:50:19.960
So right now I don't know of any place to recycle metal other than Caribou, and I don't wanna have to lug it part of Caribou and they're not nice.
00:50:20.110 --> 00:50:25.140
Somebody here from there because you're not noticing, not talk to.
00:50:25.150 --> 00:50:25.550
That's fine.
00:50:26.370 --> 00:50:29.050
No, I would add the guys down by the river.
00:50:29.540 --> 00:50:30.480
I yeah.
00:50:31.440 --> 00:50:39.510
Obviously had electronics or the we get a lot of like monitors, TV and things like that and they're just piling up because it's hard to find a place to put them.
00:50:39.620 --> 00:50:39.790
Yeah.
00:50:41.300 --> 00:50:41.430
Yeah.
00:50:43.490 --> 00:50:53.020
So the metal you think so aim is the only game in town, and they're hard to deal with for we're again located in Ohh we have some stores and Caribou.
00:50:53.110 --> 00:50:54.270
Prescott, honest.
00:50:54.280 --> 00:51:02.010
Hello and we it was easy when it was in Monticello cause he was just down the hill and it didn't cost us to transport and camp.
00:51:02.070 --> 00:51:13.120
It was just basically load up the truck when it's floor that they tubs we had take you down the hill to get a check but once that's closed we haven't found another place handy dandy that we could do that with.
00:51:13.130 --> 00:51:16.560
So we just, I don't even what we were doing with it piling up.
00:51:19.610 --> 00:51:20.270
We take it?
00:51:21.830 --> 00:51:24.560
Yeah, it's not that we don't want driving directions.
00:51:24.570 --> 00:51:25.160
Street.
00:51:25.350 --> 00:51:39.650
Yeah, we're trying to like a lot, but enough to just because we are bleeding everything we can to raise funds to feedbooks be run a food bank, not a recycling center, we recycle.
00:51:39.660 --> 00:51:44.100
So we can feed folks, we run stores so we can feed folks, but it's been a win win.
00:51:45.100 --> 00:52:16.900
In a lot of ways, especially with landfills and whatnot, because I I submit reports to try community and to press scale solid waste over the years of roughly well, it's easy to calculate how many pounds of clothes we recycled on your thinking £44,000 every time a truck or out of my yard times every six weeks to every month 12 * 8 to 10 * a year, plus over the last eight to 10 years.
00:52:17.290 --> 00:52:22.550
That's a lot of stuff, and it shipped to other countries, so it's no longer your prop.
00:52:23.850 --> 00:52:24.330
Do you know?
00:52:24.340 --> 00:52:25.380
Do you know where it goes at all?
00:52:25.390 --> 00:52:26.940
Yes, we ship it.
00:52:26.950 --> 00:52:29.160
Typically, we have two buyers or working with right now.
00:52:29.170 --> 00:52:40.640
I've worked with many buyers over the years, but the two buyers I worked with right now are out of Toronto and they ship it overseas so it's not used for rags.
00:52:40.650 --> 00:52:41.480
Will be they.
00:52:41.490 --> 00:52:42.120
They sort of.
00:52:42.270 --> 00:52:42.800
They sorted.
00:52:42.810 --> 00:52:43.540
They sort it.
00:52:43.550 --> 00:52:48.760
I mean it depending on they know me well enough now or us because they worked with us for so many years.
00:52:48.890 --> 00:52:51.160
They know what our quality is, they know what we're sending them.
00:52:51.170 --> 00:52:52.500
It's pretty much just consistent.
00:52:53.090 --> 00:52:58.960
Umm, so I'm sure they may just have buyers that buy our stuff because they know what it is. But.
00:52:59.870 --> 00:53:03.080
It it we, we are not picky about what we take.
00:53:03.170 --> 00:53:04.880
It can be ripped, torn or stained.
00:53:05.290 --> 00:53:13.460
It's because some of it is recycled into various products, but it's not thrown away and that's a lot of weight.
00:53:13.470 --> 00:53:15.910
And that's a lot of stuff over 10 year period.
00:53:19.620 --> 00:53:20.290
Go to Canon.
00:53:20.300 --> 00:53:21.300
Not good enough for him, huh?
00:53:25.040 --> 00:53:27.240
I have ties with camera, yeah.
00:53:29.980 --> 00:53:30.420
I'll have.
00:53:30.580 --> 00:53:33.170
Well, actually I think about three quarter Canadian if that pawn.
00:53:35.160 --> 00:53:35.590
Possible.
00:53:41.180 --> 00:53:43.410
And electronics?
00:53:43.420 --> 00:53:45.180
You said, yeah. Yeah.
00:53:45.190 --> 00:53:49.480
You know, we we try not to take them away.
00:53:49.490 --> 00:53:55.910
Frankly, they they appear they they appear, you know, it's kind of a cost of doing business when you're running through stores, you get some stuff sometimes.
00:53:55.920 --> 00:54:02.430
But yeah, I mean especially like right now, the big babies, let's just got kind of washed out.
00:54:02.440 --> 00:54:04.090
We're getting more flat screens now.
00:54:04.100 --> 00:54:04.460
Thanks.
00:54:04.470 --> 00:54:04.930
Thanks.
00:54:05.090 --> 00:54:05.460
Bye.
00:54:06.440 --> 00:54:06.890
Yeah.
00:54:06.960 --> 00:54:13.600
Because and when the when the whole black screen thing came out, we were getting barring with those big old TV's just bombarded.
00:54:13.610 --> 00:54:14.090
They were.
00:54:14.160 --> 00:54:21.820
They were scrapped up everywhere and it usually on the weekends and like they're not there, but we used to work with Bruce.
00:54:22.140 --> 00:54:33.410
I don't think I'm in Hamden wherever he was and when he got done and we haven't had another one come in, but that was nice because the first time first came up here and we actually did a fundraiser, which was great.
00:54:33.940 --> 00:54:42.020
So we just asked people to bring their stuff by and give us a donation and we raise like $1800 because they came by that particular day and he took it away.
00:54:42.030 --> 00:54:48.780
So that was wonderful, but the last person that for people that did that was a Catholic Church report can't did something like that.
00:54:49.120 --> 00:54:50.180
I don't know what's going on with that.
00:54:50.830 --> 00:54:52.100
Yeah, first retired.
00:54:52.230 --> 00:54:53.980
I know it's actually, yeah.
00:54:53.990 --> 00:55:05.760
So and the other guy that I contacted wanted me to guarantee him so much below wanted me to pay mileage for him to come up and go back and put up two men in a hotel for whatever time it took the fellow trailer.
00:55:06.170 --> 00:55:12.230
So like that was not so that that was that's the only that was Bruce.
00:55:12.240 --> 00:55:14.530
Business name Megan electronics.
00:55:15.410 --> 00:55:18.860
There are other few weeks consolidators would they so.
00:55:18.910 --> 00:55:21.420
So there's there's two groups.
00:55:21.430 --> 00:55:31.090
Sheets we give the one day collection events right which people use your fundraisers, which are nice between labor and I think we're in the scene like, OK, everyone here.
00:55:31.100 --> 00:55:31.690
Yeah, right.
00:55:32.490 --> 00:55:34.070
Yes, that's probably the thumbs up.
00:55:35.810 --> 00:55:42.460
Yes, they so between labor and mostly labor costs.
00:55:42.470 --> 00:55:47.550
And then the fact that our you've got it an issue where we have a a price cap.
00:55:48.620 --> 00:55:54.750
So the reason they can take it for free because manufacturers pay for it, but there's a price cap on what manufacturers pay.
00:55:55.270 --> 00:55:56.650
That needs to be adjusted.
00:55:56.660 --> 00:56:00.870
It's too low now between increases in labor costs and everything else.
00:56:01.800 --> 00:56:04.430
So it's they're working on really small margins.
00:56:04.440 --> 00:56:14.670
So no one's really doing those one day events anymore, but they can do is pick up what you've got on site, you know, so North Coast is already coming up.
00:56:14.800 --> 00:56:16.460
You guys, you North Coast.
00:56:16.580 --> 00:56:16.860
Yeah.
00:56:16.870 --> 00:56:25.990
So he's already going up WS and probably a few other places and picking up and he's got his truck and he's just making a sweep, right?
00:56:26.230 --> 00:56:26.570
All right.
00:56:26.580 --> 00:56:28.070
By our bonus all warehouses.
00:56:28.200 --> 00:56:31.810
On route so that would just be a matter of figuring that out.
00:56:31.900 --> 00:56:33.960
I mean, we don't care if we get money out of it. Lost.
00:56:34.140 --> 00:56:35.220
Gone. This.
00:56:35.230 --> 00:56:35.590
Yeah.
00:56:35.600 --> 00:56:37.880
Yeah, that stuff we're gonna say we have.
00:56:38.050 --> 00:56:39.720
You have a place to store.
00:56:39.730 --> 00:56:40.660
How do you store it?
00:56:40.670 --> 00:56:41.330
We have warehouses.
00:56:43.280 --> 00:57:05.730
Let me put it usually in like watermelon toads, which is kind of how Bruce used to do it in the big or like yeah that we typically use watermelon toast cause that's we have access to occasions we keep them inside for most part yeah they get they should be good but we could do that would just have to connect on that I could do that through mark he's keep inventory.
00:57:05.790 --> 00:57:06.360
Yeah, right.
00:57:06.370 --> 00:57:13.060
Yeah, we can be in touch definitely about your signed up, I guess on somewhere we have your email.
00:57:14.620 --> 00:57:16.250
Umm, but yeah, that's what you want to do.
00:57:16.260 --> 00:57:18.460
Is just get set up as a regular collection location.
00:57:19.130 --> 00:57:19.630
Umm.
00:57:19.860 --> 00:57:23.000
And then yeah, sometimes you.
00:57:23.140 --> 00:57:26.530
So that's yeah. Yeah. Who does?
00:57:27.110 --> 00:57:27.970
Changing teams.
00:57:29.010 --> 00:57:30.560
Yes, I think you're supposed to.
00:57:30.570 --> 00:57:31.890
Anybody at most only one.
00:57:31.900 --> 00:57:37.510
Everybody else, I think the only one on this is just dealing with one game in town.
00:57:37.520 --> 00:57:37.740
What's?
00:57:37.940 --> 00:57:38.180
Yeah.
00:57:38.880 --> 00:57:39.470
Really.
00:57:39.920 --> 00:57:43.350
Yeah, Billy actors, I think it's the only game in town.
00:57:43.360 --> 00:57:44.450
That thing period?
00:57:44.500 --> 00:57:45.690
Pretty much, yeah.
00:57:46.280 --> 00:57:49.430
Yeah, it's not the only, but he does about 9095.
00:57:49.610 --> 00:57:52.510
Yeah, that will be helpful.
00:57:52.520 --> 00:57:53.310
That's good to know.
00:57:53.700 --> 00:57:54.010
Yeah.
00:57:54.020 --> 00:57:55.930
So we can take care of that pretty easily.
00:57:55.940 --> 00:57:56.370
It's not.
00:57:56.460 --> 00:57:58.010
It's not all kinds of like tronics.
00:57:58.020 --> 00:58:02.180
It's not like not like hair dryers and that sort of stuff.
00:58:02.460 --> 00:58:06.580
At least you can take those, but there'll be a small charge for them, like.
00:58:06.950 --> 00:58:08.220
Does he charge for personals?
00:58:09.090 --> 00:58:11.810
Yeah, generally believe he doesn't know for about his.
00:58:12.250 --> 00:58:12.550
Yeah.
00:58:13.990 --> 00:58:14.190
Keep.
00:58:14.190 --> 00:58:19.080
But he does have a feed for transport that's in charge of transportation.
00:58:19.630 --> 00:58:19.870
Minimal.
00:58:21.010 --> 00:58:23.570
So each place he stops has to pay a little something so.
00:58:26.890 --> 00:58:29.040
Probably sweetie shooting.
00:58:30.430 --> 00:58:34.630
I'm afraid you should go on the past week, talking days might be playing.
00:58:35.300 --> 00:58:36.970
I need some good old one.
00:58:37.690 --> 00:58:38.780
You can talk to Philly.
00:58:39.470 --> 00:58:40.570
Billy's been working with us. Thousand.
00:58:42.470 --> 00:58:42.850
Thousand.
00:58:42.980 --> 00:58:44.470
Yeah, 20 something years.
00:58:44.940 --> 00:58:47.000
You've been around all time? Yep.
00:58:51.650 --> 00:58:53.940
No, we're talking about hard, hard to manage things.
00:58:53.950 --> 00:59:02.300
One thing I had on my list and everyone throwing and say it's bad the it's the chargeable beds.
00:59:03.770 --> 00:59:05.280
I think there's gonna nod and go.
00:59:05.290 --> 00:59:05.740
Yup.
00:59:05.790 --> 00:59:06.000
Wait.
00:59:06.010 --> 00:59:15.320
And I talked about it, you know, from the standpoint, not so much from a waste reduction standpoint or anything like that, but it's strictly fires.
00:59:15.530 --> 00:59:16.620
Yeah, it's fires.
00:59:16.630 --> 00:59:17.600
It's landfills.
00:59:17.610 --> 00:59:23.700
We're seeing it like when centers are seeing it transfer station to seeing it, garbage haulers are seeing it.
00:59:25.490 --> 00:59:32.170
We and we participate with call to recycle, but in Aroostook County there's our two facilities and loads.
00:59:32.440 --> 00:59:34.140
That's it, and nobody knows it.
00:59:35.020 --> 00:59:40.090
It people will deliver their trash to us on Saturday mornings.
00:59:40.720 --> 00:59:46.810
They know that the ones hiring the haulers don't know, and if we say, you know, don't you know?
00:59:46.820 --> 00:59:48.050
Don't put that in the trash.
00:59:48.060 --> 00:59:50.750
The next question logically is what do you want me to do with it?
00:59:51.120 --> 00:59:58.830
Well, you could take it down to Lowes or you could take it to us and for Fairfield or out to the press Guy Landfill 3 miles on a dirt road.
00:59:58.840 --> 00:59:59.630
And I'm gonna go.
01:00:00.360 --> 01:00:00.750
OK.
01:00:01.130 --> 01:00:03.120
Yeah, in the tragic go.
01:00:03.130 --> 01:00:07.490
So somehow we need more convenient.
01:00:08.390 --> 01:00:16.010
We're well known drop off locations and discussions I've had up here on the logical, logical connection would be fired to me.
01:00:16.060 --> 01:00:17.740
Fire stations, fire departments.
01:00:17.950 --> 01:00:21.880
They're well trained and they're the ones that we're calling, but we have fires.
01:00:21.890 --> 01:00:27.320
So I do know that our the Presquile Fire Chief is gonna carry that to the main fire chiefs.
01:00:27.330 --> 01:00:31.970
Sociation maybe some so it should hit the news a little bit.
01:00:32.020 --> 01:00:35.070
I mean, part of it's the people that just aren't aware, but just don't know.
01:00:35.140 --> 01:00:35.630
Yeah, right.
01:00:36.100 --> 01:00:50.070
You got to have a convenient free option to get rid of them, and it seems like we could work on that locally, but it seems like it's something in this plan, something that could be elevated with some state level leadership.
01:00:50.420 --> 01:00:51.670
Be very helpful.
01:00:53.090 --> 01:00:54.100
They're not going away.
01:00:54.190 --> 01:00:55.430
No, there's not going.
01:00:56.160 --> 01:01:07.910
The other thing I want to mention about that the other hand off, but I almost attached to the meeting invite, is that for the municipal sites that participate in program, they can add regular batteries and just charge a small fee for those.
01:01:07.920 --> 01:01:10.850
So they could take the, you know, take the lithium for sure.
01:01:11.080 --> 01:01:16.050
But they can also add primary batteries, and that's something that the retail sites can't do through the program.
01:01:16.060 --> 01:01:26.760
It's only for the for the municipal site, so that's something that I think would be good to include in any kind of education because we're trying to get more sites to do that because we get so many calls about that.
01:01:26.930 --> 01:01:39.120
There is, I don't know if you guys do, I get lot about batteries and people just don't wanna put them trash and they're probably those same people that are willing to find a phone number called the easy or probably willing to pay a couple of pennies to recycle their battery.
01:01:39.850 --> 01:01:40.780
We did apply.
01:01:40.790 --> 01:01:42.900
This is later in the agenda, but I'll just mention it too.
01:01:42.910 --> 01:01:52.090
We did apply for federal funding through pH to do education outreach and included batteries in our app, but I don't know if we're going to get the funding for that quite yet.
01:01:52.150 --> 01:01:55.280
I looked at that EPA grant at the minimum of 250.
01:01:55.290 --> 01:01:55.490
It was.
01:01:56.220 --> 01:02:01.010
I could I could find the wonderful TV station for 9 years with that kind of thing.
01:02:01.280 --> 01:02:02.260
You know, we'll spend it.
01:02:02.440 --> 01:02:02.810
Yeah.
01:02:02.820 --> 01:02:03.190
Yes.
01:02:03.200 --> 01:02:07.630
Yeah, you got you guys could you know right that would be a big thing.
01:02:07.640 --> 01:02:11.690
But also trying to get anymore and you need more places to sign up for the forward.
01:02:11.780 --> 01:02:12.550
Yeah.
01:02:12.680 --> 01:02:15.160
And they can just do the free one if they want to, just do the free one.
01:02:15.170 --> 01:02:19.910
But that's The thing is like just getting more municipal sites of where the they can do the program.
01:02:19.920 --> 01:02:29.740
And I agree the fire stations are so Megan municipal sites that account the timer station, transportation, transfer station.
01:02:30.230 --> 01:02:31.760
But Fire station is a good idea.
01:02:31.770 --> 01:02:31.920
Yeah.
01:02:31.930 --> 01:02:43.280
The bottom or 24/7 365 they're mean, but they're well trained and again they have a vested interest in so and they gonna follow through on the safety.
01:02:43.590 --> 01:02:44.300
Exactly.
01:02:44.550 --> 01:02:46.150
Yeah, it's nothing new for them too.
01:02:48.780 --> 01:02:54.220
Long term, it would be, it would be cost savings if they don't have to quote for what quite a fire.
01:02:54.810 --> 01:02:55.360
Yeah.
01:02:56.010 --> 01:02:57.720
What size mattress are you still there?
01:02:57.730 --> 01:03:03.000
We see we so when we have a fire a lot of times we can't tell what started.
01:03:03.010 --> 01:03:04.470
But last year I know two.
01:03:04.480 --> 01:03:07.340
For example, for sure we found were started by firing.
01:03:07.350 --> 01:03:08.260
What was the cell phone?
01:03:08.450 --> 01:03:15.920
Was a left, but we thought we see bunch of the cordless tool. Battery drills.
01:03:16.550 --> 01:03:17.210
Like, what's that?
01:03:17.220 --> 01:03:26.480
We know last year that we could talk literally started fires, cell phone, our range be getting vaping batteries about chance.
01:03:26.490 --> 01:03:26.580
Yeah.
01:03:27.980 --> 01:03:30.480
And probably I'm sure I have no.
01:03:30.550 --> 01:03:31.910
Yeah, I'm sure we are.
01:03:31.920 --> 01:03:34.540
But by the not there been concerned, I don't.
01:03:37.880 --> 01:03:38.120
Right.
01:03:38.130 --> 01:03:40.240
So then those cells on the laptops also could have gone.
01:03:41.220 --> 01:03:43.870
I was gonna say one of those are covered by existing programs.
01:03:43.880 --> 01:03:48.290
We will take them as we do, but most but usually don't bring their trash to.
01:03:48.300 --> 01:03:53.130
Yeah, most people are hiring to home to do and so for them to sit tight, they call me up.
01:03:53.140 --> 01:03:54.380
Said yeah, bring it out.
01:03:54.520 --> 01:03:59.370
You know 8 miles on your day off to get rid of a cell phone.
01:03:59.860 --> 01:04:04.850
So I will post are gonna go down four.
01:04:05.400 --> 01:04:06.300
Yeah, I wouldn't know.
01:04:08.630 --> 01:04:09.260
So.
01:04:09.340 --> 01:04:16.150
It's so that's where like they could go on a Sunday afternoon down to the fire station and drop this thing off and be done.
01:04:16.210 --> 01:04:18.720
That would be, I think that would be the right beautiful.
01:04:20.020 --> 01:04:30.430
The other thing that they found is that if you collect it, if the fire stations were willing to pay that extra to get the if you collect all batteries.
01:04:30.440 --> 01:04:32.180
Sometimes people are like, what do you mean?
01:04:32.190 --> 01:04:37.650
You take some batteries and that's like a really that gets confusing and difficult, and that's enough.
01:04:37.660 --> 01:04:47.920
That's there's your conveniences at the window versus like if if you've got a place where you can take all your batteries and you don't have to worry about what type it is and all of that, that helps a lot.
01:04:47.930 --> 01:04:54.400
So I don't know if is there ohh can away you could get us in touch with that Fire Chief.
01:04:54.410 --> 01:05:01.660
That's interested so that we could maybe we can get because that's a cause that should that's a perfect place for them to go all over the state.
01:05:01.670 --> 01:05:02.140
Really.
01:05:02.210 --> 01:05:03.590
Yeah, everyone is smart.
01:05:03.600 --> 01:05:04.220
So you was?
01:05:04.390 --> 01:05:06.820
Yeah, you know that?
01:05:07.170 --> 01:05:08.610
Yeah, that the it's not there.
01:05:08.660 --> 01:05:10.050
They're away, the Fire Chief.
01:05:10.060 --> 01:05:12.490
Forget I'll ask you for it. Yep.
01:05:16.260 --> 01:05:16.650
Transfer.
01:05:16.790 --> 01:05:17.480
Good afternoon.
01:05:18.020 --> 01:05:18.450
It's Russia.
01:05:18.460 --> 01:05:20.220
Transcript what's that?
01:05:20.350 --> 01:05:21.490
Yes, and this is for you have.
01:05:22.250 --> 01:05:22.700
Yeah.
01:05:22.720 --> 01:05:24.300
We'll be lucky if we can read it, yeah.
01:05:25.850 --> 01:05:26.600
It's really funny.
01:05:26.820 --> 01:05:27.040
You're.
01:05:28.050 --> 01:05:29.080
Yeah, that.
01:05:32.220 --> 01:05:34.600
I think the best place where to.
01:05:34.940 --> 01:05:37.940
Yes, I know you this idea.
01:05:39.090 --> 01:05:46.910
If I memory just as every day, so when most people using private dollars that's affecting all your recycle. Probably.
01:05:46.920 --> 01:05:47.700
Yeah, yeah.
01:05:47.790 --> 01:05:54.480
Isn't any of those private holders do anything such craft problems the larger ones?
01:05:54.490 --> 01:05:59.410
With the current, we encourage himself. Commercial house.
01:05:59.710 --> 01:06:01.090
We have what we want.
01:06:01.150 --> 01:06:09.110
So yeah, that means that all the there's the right the rest of the recycling stuff it's it's drop off.
01:06:09.120 --> 01:06:12.670
So you have to make the one of our languages from the broad level.
01:06:13.140 --> 01:06:38.430
One of our problem here, you know we used to when I took over Midcoast Rockport, they didn't had a hefty licensing fee for callers and I did away with it and told them all if you would accommodate recycling full spectrum of what we handle no fee, no license and big difference, then all geared up.
01:06:39.520 --> 01:06:46.420
Not that they all carried a lot, but they all geared up to, like, give up space to say that they do that to split their time.
01:06:46.980 --> 01:06:48.650
What the components on the sides?
01:06:48.660 --> 01:06:51.350
Yeah, very ingenious little methods.
01:06:51.810 --> 01:06:54.340
There's some fine with the but it helps.
01:06:58.600 --> 01:07:00.320
But we haven't even turned it was charging.
01:07:04.980 --> 01:07:06.770
Your Dropbox, where do you try to locate them?
01:07:08.210 --> 01:07:09.220
You have everywhere we got.
01:07:09.230 --> 01:07:15.260
So what I have 20 of them, I think around public works garages anywhere.
01:07:15.270 --> 01:07:17.760
We begin our probably something stores.
01:07:18.250 --> 01:07:24.980
You just try to call, locate them with redemption centers because they would be convenient someone taking their cans and bottles back and drop off recyclables.
01:07:26.760 --> 01:07:31.230
Have some city of town offices for each for scale.
01:07:31.240 --> 01:07:33.330
I think they're town office, city office.
01:07:34.510 --> 01:07:37.980
I have cat Taylor who had their hand up something to make her presenter.
01:07:46.050 --> 01:07:46.650
Can you hear me?
01:07:46.700 --> 01:07:47.050
Can you?
01:07:45.970 --> 01:07:48.390
Yes, yet.
01:07:47.060 --> 01:07:50.890
OK, I never use Microsoft Teams on a zoom lady.
01:07:50.900 --> 01:07:58.870
So umm, I couldn't understand sometimes cause your microphones kind of echoey and there's some cross talk.
01:07:58.960 --> 01:08:10.610
So I don't know if you knew about the call to recycle program that is a federal program which allows you to send for a kit and you mentioned lows.
01:08:10.620 --> 01:08:16.170
I don't know if you guys have a Home Depot up there or not, but they will also take rechargeable tool batteries.
01:08:16.780 --> 01:08:25.780
They won't take alkaline batteries, but they will take just about any rechargeable battery as well as compact fluorescent and any other Mercury laden light bulbs.
01:08:25.790 --> 01:08:31.380
And in their store, also staples and Best Buy will take digital equipment.
01:08:31.490 --> 01:08:39.230
You just have to check with the manager ahead of time that they do recycle any electronics that are obsolete, if that helps.
01:08:38.870 --> 01:08:40.830
And it does.
01:08:41.120 --> 01:08:41.310
No.
01:08:42.360 --> 01:08:42.510
Yeah.
01:08:42.180 --> 01:08:42.580
OK.
01:08:43.420 --> 01:08:43.640
Here.
01:08:43.970 --> 01:08:45.230
Well, it's located.
01:08:45.420 --> 01:08:47.310
If you're done, the cat, would you put your hand down?
01:08:48.170 --> 01:08:49.450
Ohh Yep, I will thank you.
01:08:49.770 --> 01:08:50.170
Thank you.
01:08:54.750 --> 01:08:57.700
Yeah, curiosity for the recycling drop off.
01:08:57.710 --> 01:09:04.680
So you guys can take #2 paper cardboard, so it's clear and colored #2.
01:09:04.790 --> 01:09:09.200
Yep, newspaper magazines, Jenkins.
01:09:10.400 --> 01:09:22.740
Some of our locations have cardboard, but most of the time and then if people want to hire private haulers, they can have their recycling brought to Presque Isle or or.
01:09:22.750 --> 01:09:26.220
No, all the only thing the haulers will deliver is card.
01:09:27.630 --> 01:09:31.160
Also, that is from nurses, sources, stores.
01:09:33.630 --> 01:09:41.600
He's made up a revenue sharing program where we will return 50% of revenue we received for any cards worth it screen.
01:09:41.840 --> 01:09:43.390
Let's just switch right down.
01:09:43.400 --> 01:09:44.500
Is a bunch of exception.
01:09:51.150 --> 01:09:51.320
Yeah.
01:10:02.500 --> 01:10:12.310
So just to keep us moving along, thinking about I keep on my talk about the year for packaging program, but I guess that's we have three separate stakeholder meetings for that.
01:10:12.320 --> 01:10:16.420
So stop doesn't blend into this state.
01:10:16.430 --> 01:10:17.390
Does blend in?
01:10:17.460 --> 01:10:41.900
Yes, I'm also wondering about the other materials like where we're using EPA grant funding for grant that we did get to do a waste characterization study across the state trying to figure out what's in the waste stream so that we can kind of get a better handle on what we need to do to move things out of the way strains figure out what are the problem, materials that are in narrowly W batteries and studiously a big one.
01:10:43.740 --> 01:10:55.670
So are there other products that come to mind like the bulky waste or whatever else you might be dealing with it behind us particularly problematic are always you know.
01:10:58.200 --> 01:10:59.400
Actresses for us.
01:10:59.410 --> 01:11:00.040
I was gonna let you.
01:11:00.270 --> 01:11:01.760
Are you going to church tonight?
01:11:01.880 --> 01:11:03.950
This is for you.
01:11:04.180 --> 01:11:05.730
It's non.
01:11:06.730 --> 01:11:07.720
Don't go into it.
01:11:07.790 --> 01:11:10.950
Yeah, ask a question.
01:11:11.120 --> 01:11:11.350
Sure.
01:11:11.360 --> 01:11:13.050
What about those new memory?
01:11:13.100 --> 01:11:14.910
Not new, but memory. Phone.
01:11:15.040 --> 01:11:18.410
How do those go in the film?
01:11:20.010 --> 01:11:20.620
Bouncy.
01:11:20.870 --> 01:11:27.380
I think I would think put it on the giant sponges they do ohh shoes.
01:11:27.920 --> 01:11:30.370
It's not a settings, not as bad as the box.
01:11:30.560 --> 01:11:33.980
Sometimes they work real well, mixed with wet waste, yeah.
01:11:37.410 --> 01:11:41.660
That that would be another question that I would have.
01:11:41.750 --> 01:12:00.860
It is this the the new waste management plan has addressed in any fashion since LCD 1911 is committed to why has the plan that addressed wet waste wet, wet waste no plane gets updated every five years.
01:12:00.870 --> 01:12:08.810
So this is the first this these stakeholder meetings are to get feedback and then take that feedback and drop it into the looking for it.
01:12:08.850 --> 01:12:10.520
So yeah, download debris.
01:12:10.530 --> 01:12:10.990
What waste?
01:12:11.000 --> 01:12:13.600
Those are all things that we want to talk about.
01:12:14.240 --> 01:12:18.490
Certain 1911 is that the no spreading of sludge, or is that the but yeah.
01:12:22.670 --> 01:12:29.360
Yeah, 1911 was slide 1639 was that we have, yes, that we just say numbers in our world.
01:12:29.490 --> 01:12:29.920
I'm good.
01:12:31.790 --> 01:12:32.140
Thank you.
01:12:32.150 --> 01:12:32.680
Let me know.
01:12:32.690 --> 01:12:38.380
Seen 39, just so the crew understands.
01:12:38.430 --> 01:12:39.780
Doesn't get confused.
01:12:39.790 --> 01:12:48.030
Is right now it would appear that 718's gonna go through which is going to put a hold on 1639, right?
01:12:48.200 --> 01:12:55.620
Yep, and, but it's only gonna put a hold on for a couple years and I'm all for all for recycling.
01:12:56.060 --> 01:12:57.110
We want to recycle.
01:12:57.120 --> 01:12:59.410
I will not let recyclables come into the landfill.
01:13:00.470 --> 01:13:00.980
Umm.
01:13:01.950 --> 01:13:08.360
However, 1630 nines been put off, which will be helpful for a couple years until we see other.
01:13:10.430 --> 01:13:18.140
Ways of going to be able to recycle sludge, but the the clock will be ticking just as soon as the governor signs it.
01:13:18.150 --> 01:13:20.540
So just concerned.
01:13:22.880 --> 01:13:30.680
Wet last piece it it becomes very, very problematic and and a landfill.
01:13:31.230 --> 01:13:32.050
It too much of it.
01:13:32.710 --> 01:13:34.650
Have a feeling bill knows what I'm talking about.
01:13:36.150 --> 01:13:39.380
Something more problematic than there's no place to take in Mark.
01:13:40.140 --> 01:13:47.840
I'm talking about take a lot more like some the most of it's going to where that's different.
01:13:48.190 --> 01:13:48.670
Yeah, yeah.
01:13:49.230 --> 01:13:50.460
You know all the way down to China.
01:13:50.470 --> 01:13:51.060
The Ridge.
01:13:51.250 --> 01:13:51.870
Well, it's coming.
01:13:51.960 --> 01:13:53.570
We don't want to say so.
01:13:53.630 --> 01:13:53.950
No.
01:13:53.960 --> 01:13:55.510
So it depends on your treatment.
01:13:55.960 --> 01:14:01.280
But also treatment plant guy, but it depends on your treatment process how much sludge you didn't, how frequently you have to deal with it.
01:14:01.290 --> 01:14:04.950
If you're using all the system 30 years, you know you don't.
01:14:04.960 --> 01:14:05.610
You don't remove.
01:14:05.620 --> 01:14:06.530
You have a lot of them into.
01:14:06.540 --> 01:14:17.390
It stays at the bottom of the code for 20 years, but it's much one second generation, so then they'll be large volumes for the routine ones.
01:14:17.400 --> 01:14:20.140
We're getting them prestile stuff.
01:14:21.620 --> 01:14:23.830
So get a large volume, though that would be much.
01:14:25.000 --> 01:14:28.930
That's a very different way of, yeah, good example.
01:14:28.940 --> 01:14:31.790
Caribou did theirs three years ago.
01:14:31.800 --> 01:14:35.820
Yeah, but that was, I don't know, couldn't help, but all of it.
01:14:37.450 --> 01:14:46.860
The Canada not, that's, that's where that's no, it had a lot of a lot of foreign objects in it, like plastics and brags and.
01:14:48.960 --> 01:14:50.360
And so it went together.
01:14:50.650 --> 01:14:52.470
And that's not deep water at that point.
01:14:52.480 --> 01:14:56.140
If there was, it was the higher a contractor comes in expense this summer.
01:14:57.080 --> 01:14:58.340
Talk about a great summer job.
01:14:59.950 --> 01:15:03.510
No, and they do waterfall, which is a big one.
01:15:06.470 --> 01:15:07.820
30 something, yeah.
01:15:07.860 --> 01:15:10.940
So like this huge trailer?
01:15:10.950 --> 01:15:14.570
Truckloads of modern sludged they don't to.
01:15:16.790 --> 01:15:19.500
Which is still a lot of water that the movie mechanica.
01:15:19.670 --> 01:15:20.140
Yeah.
01:15:20.210 --> 01:15:20.600
Yeah.
01:15:20.660 --> 01:15:21.530
And how much tonnage?
01:15:21.660 --> 01:15:25.710
Just get like per lagoon and ask me that.
01:15:28.370 --> 01:15:30.780
Gotta be close to 100,000 plus.
01:15:30.930 --> 01:15:31.660
Wow, no.
01:15:31.740 --> 01:15:33.620
After deep watering, 100,000.
01:15:33.630 --> 01:15:34.120
Yeah.
01:15:34.130 --> 01:15:39.260
Devoted many truck lifts 45% if you get 20%.
01:15:39.390 --> 01:15:39.830
Yeah.
01:15:39.990 --> 01:15:42.880
Yeah, it's a big it's loaded.
01:15:42.890 --> 01:15:43.440
Jello.
01:15:43.740 --> 01:15:46.250
Yeah, it's it's look better.
01:15:46.260 --> 01:15:49.360
Like, take a shower with the like that and this.
01:15:52.160 --> 01:15:53.190
What are they do with it?
01:15:53.200 --> 01:15:55.770
Canada. It's Lance.
01:15:56.480 --> 01:15:58.000
No, it's probably not.
01:15:58.010 --> 01:15:59.760
That was good.
01:15:59.870 --> 01:16:00.920
Umm, it's pretty.
01:16:01.390 --> 01:16:04.080
Other other cleaner stuff, excused for compost.
01:16:05.100 --> 01:16:07.530
You know, where did it go?
01:16:07.540 --> 01:16:12.180
What landfill did it go to the camera and could you could journey did it?
01:16:15.820 --> 01:16:16.320
I don't know.
01:16:16.520 --> 01:16:17.250
I don't arrest them.
01:16:17.880 --> 01:16:24.080
If you don't know it went N went through customs display maybe.
01:16:24.090 --> 01:16:30.960
Sorry, I know when you get 682 ton in one day and you don't get enough stuff to mix with it, it becomes a real problem.
01:16:31.410 --> 01:16:34.120
Yeah, I paid her.
01:16:34.330 --> 01:16:36.670
I'm certainty gonna end up.
01:16:37.880 --> 01:16:39.450
Again, comma in this presenter.
01:16:41.700 --> 01:16:43.960
So yeah.
01:16:44.870 --> 01:16:45.070
Yeah.
01:16:47.110 --> 01:16:48.320
And then give us your name.
01:16:48.330 --> 01:16:48.540
Right.
01:16:48.550 --> 01:16:49.480
And serial number please.
01:16:54.040 --> 01:16:54.650
And you're muted.
01:17:00.590 --> 01:17:00.970
Something.
01:17:02.710 --> 01:17:06.820
OK, to figure that out actually, is it not?
01:17:06.830 --> 01:17:07.880
Needed on our end, though, right?
01:17:07.890 --> 01:17:08.290
No, he's.
01:17:12.740 --> 01:17:18.100
Other people's hands slaps you have a lot of power.
01:17:19.820 --> 01:17:20.680
I have no idea.
01:17:21.880 --> 01:17:23.370
Does somebody else have their hand raised?
01:17:23.380 --> 01:17:25.610
I just see like it's still OK.
01:17:27.490 --> 01:17:28.230
Who is newly?
01:17:29.250 --> 01:17:35.820
So I'll send to you considering the fact that we've only dealt with municipal waste water slide with the law clearly stated that septic was was next.
01:17:35.870 --> 01:17:36.220
Yeah.
01:17:36.260 --> 01:17:43.740
You know, I think the bottom line is longer strategic long term planning for sludge management instinct.
01:17:44.370 --> 01:17:50.830
I don't recall that it's been part of the Plan 4 or if it is, it's like doing mostly part of the plant.
01:17:50.880 --> 01:17:58.140
So if we have a solution so the the reporting is doctor, it's it's focused on solid waste.
01:17:58.740 --> 01:18:08.210
But obviously if there's a mass quantity of other ways that take up space in the landfills that are intended for solid waste, then you can't really avoid talking about it.
01:18:08.220 --> 01:18:11.540
It has to be more than conversation so, but it's solid place.
01:18:11.550 --> 01:18:12.230
It's just talking.
01:18:12.240 --> 01:18:19.870
It's so right, it's solid, solid, better chance we'll send you some up.
01:18:22.430 --> 01:18:25.580
That's what we're gonna be.
01:18:26.000 --> 01:18:29.590
So what it is, that's something that just saw it.
01:18:30.180 --> 01:18:31.170
It's stable.
01:18:31.240 --> 01:18:31.610
Yeah.
01:18:31.660 --> 01:18:32.330
So.
01:18:32.680 --> 01:18:42.570
So I guess following up on that a little bit, one of the things I noticed, I went back and looked at the 2019 plan and I thought about previous versions of it.
01:18:42.580 --> 01:18:52.770
One of the things I noticed in 2019 version was there was no discussion at all about capacity disposal capacity and which surprised me a little bit.
01:18:52.780 --> 01:19:01.980
I don't know why I didn't catch that before, but I was looking more specifically because I mean we're good here in Augusta County and AWS.
01:19:01.990 --> 01:19:08.570
We've got probably between 35 to 40 years of capacity remaining in our two, there are two sides.
01:19:09.560 --> 01:19:36.200
Uh, but I look at what's going on elsewhere with certain facilities that were being unnamed but going they're really, to me, looks like there could be a potential problem here with somebody, you know, very basic thing that we should be doing in solid waste industry is that if someone in Lewiston, Lyman, Lincoln or limestone throw something away, it goes somewhere.
01:19:36.210 --> 01:19:47.620
And disposed of appropriate and you know, if we're not doing that fundamental foundational thing, it's awfully hard to build on any of the other things that we're talking about here.
01:19:47.630 --> 01:20:13.120
So it would seem at this plan should kind of do a back to the basics a little bit and say OK where, but facilities do we have what's there at the capacity, what is there time frame, what are their likelihood to being online and determine whether or not to be able to achieve that goal or so seems like it's missing and really at least the next five years really should be first and foremost.
01:20:13.600 --> 01:20:15.830
He's from me sitting up here looking South.
01:20:16.180 --> 01:20:16.810
It's South.
01:20:16.880 --> 01:20:20.400
Did you know that generation two years?
01:20:20.410 --> 01:20:20.680
Yeah.
01:20:20.720 --> 01:20:21.170
OK.
01:20:21.220 --> 01:20:24.630
And historically, I think it's well, it's the plan hasn't been around that long.
01:20:24.640 --> 01:20:25.510
It's 2014.
01:20:25.580 --> 01:20:33.700
The statute pointed to affect, so the first two or the first plan they combined with the waste generation disposable faster report for efficiency, right?
01:20:34.070 --> 01:20:47.940
Umm, so that's good feedback to keep in mind for this time around, but technically the way generation report is over two years it would be published one last year so would be next year when it comes out again.
01:20:47.950 --> 01:20:52.700
But maybe we can include a subsection based on this feedback with some of that data.
01:20:53.090 --> 01:21:04.170
It's a lot of work putting the getting, pulling all the information together because we have we get reports from, you know, everyone in this room and all over the state and some of those are like scanned reports.
01:21:04.380 --> 01:21:04.730
What's up?
01:21:04.730 --> 01:21:05.010
Works.
01:21:05.020 --> 01:21:14.510
So so we're trying to, we have a big push to try to modernize our reporting system and try to get better, more efficient with collecting information.
01:21:14.560 --> 01:21:33.150
So we can spit that information out more efficiently, but that's good feedback and we will, we'll get it putting section even if it's not as robust as the region will search is environmental impacts of people not being able to throw stuff away he considers yes.
01:21:58.490 --> 01:21:59.590
Hey, can you all hear me?
01:22:12.450 --> 01:22:12.960
Hi, Jessica.
01:22:15.700 --> 01:22:16.040
I can.
01:22:15.570 --> 01:22:17.280
Hey, are they frozen for you too?
01:22:17.890 --> 01:22:19.710
They are frozen for me as well.
01:22:20.220 --> 01:22:21.360
OK so.
01:22:23.750 --> 01:22:25.390
Umm, let me give Elena call.
01:22:27.630 --> 01:22:33.900
And I see if there's something that can be rebooted on their end.
01:22:34.800 --> 01:22:35.010
Yeah.
01:22:36.430 --> 01:22:36.920
OK.
01:22:36.930 --> 01:22:38.100
So we just lost them.
01:22:38.150 --> 01:22:39.430
So we're still in the meeting.
01:22:39.440 --> 01:22:40.720
They've gotta get back in the meeting.
01:22:40.550 --> 01:22:40.760
OK.
01:22:40.730 --> 01:22:42.550
Let me give him a call I'll give you.
01:22:40.770 --> 01:22:48.810
Can I say can I see I can see Elena's allana's uh laptop because I can see her.
01:22:48.820 --> 01:22:51.400
What she had up there for the presentation part.
01:22:52.020 --> 01:22:52.380
OK.
01:22:53.250 --> 01:22:56.210
So it's the other one maybe robs laptop that we lost.
01:22:58.640 --> 01:22:58.850
Get.
01:22:57.630 --> 01:22:58.930
OK, I'll say so.
01:22:59.550 --> 01:23:03.900
Yeah, I can hear you guys, but I don't see the the meeting picture anymore.
01:23:04.490 --> 01:23:04.730
OK.
01:23:04.710 --> 01:23:05.870
Now, now, me.
01:23:05.880 --> 01:23:11.940
Either I could like I just said to Jessica, I can see I can see Elena's screen.
01:23:11.950 --> 01:23:15.430
So I know her laptop is still is still going so.
01:23:59.550 --> 01:24:00.300
I see.
01:24:00.350 --> 01:24:02.680
I see him back on the list of presenters now.
01:24:07.320 --> 01:24:10.760
They just popped up up, but they're muted.
01:24:16.490 --> 01:24:18.220
Unmute yourselves, please.
01:24:21.640 --> 01:24:22.140
There we go.
01:24:20.570 --> 01:24:23.250
Have that. Yeah.
01:24:23.110 --> 01:24:23.590
Thank you.
01:24:23.440 --> 01:24:24.790
No, that's better.
01:24:26.250 --> 01:24:27.770
That's better, but I think that's gonna.
01:24:27.850 --> 01:24:31.940
I think there is New England is running out of space.
01:24:32.020 --> 01:24:32.290
Yeah.
01:24:32.300 --> 01:24:37.130
So it's it's not only exposed in the past, but you could also if they're processing capacity right too.
01:24:37.420 --> 01:24:44.310
I mean, if we can't process it, then it's all going to be that, yeah, regardless of where or wetland till it goes and how long is that?
01:24:44.460 --> 01:24:45.650
How long is that gonna last?
01:24:45.660 --> 01:24:59.740
Week they processing capacity, you mean like incinerator at the Murph like you know dirty or wait a minute or otherwise it's you know just some sort of regional transportation network that can reduce waste before it has to be landfill.
01:24:59.750 --> 01:25:01.460
I mean, that's what you're supposed to be doing, right?
01:25:01.910 --> 01:25:02.580
Does she go?
01:25:02.710 --> 01:25:08.260
Your favorite, but, but your landfill, which is the platform, is what the system is based on, right?
01:25:08.270 --> 01:25:09.500
That's what it's all built on.
01:25:09.790 --> 01:25:14.420
And if there's nothing to process, then the landfill just gets bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger at the bottom.
01:25:14.430 --> 01:25:19.390
So you talked about, you know, the first thing that was out of your mouth I think today was let's talk a little bit about infrastructure.
01:25:19.400 --> 01:25:20.680
Let's talk a little bit about this.
01:25:20.740 --> 01:25:21.100
Yeah.
01:25:21.190 --> 01:25:28.150
Well, infrastructure in my mind and in my, you know, what I've seen is getting outdated.
01:25:28.310 --> 01:25:29.260
It's old.
01:25:29.810 --> 01:25:54.050
It's not really keeping up with the new materials that are coming into, you know, the market and we have a lack of those processing facilities and state process won't happens instinct it which leads us to exporting again and again and again like other waste streams that we can't manage and you know Wayne talked with the legislature, we hear the legislature pain has to deal with main ways.
01:25:54.060 --> 01:25:59.830
Well, main does not deal with main ways, just starts of anyways.
01:25:59.840 --> 01:26:00.470
Not all of it.
01:26:00.480 --> 01:26:18.190
And so I think that's something to look at as well as like like find trying to find that balance of how we can the process more of our own waste in state and not become an export state like Massachusetts has, which has all been the owners on main and New Hampshire to have more capacity issues with their own.
01:26:18.660 --> 01:26:24.940
So I mean, I'm all for regionalisms, but until everybody's for regionalism, we have to work with what we got.
01:26:26.210 --> 01:26:33.640
So regionalism is one of the things we want Ryan's division, that running your early presenter.
01:26:35.670 --> 01:26:36.290
He's here.
01:26:35.600 --> 01:26:37.960
Yeah, but I didn't wanna just thrust myself in.
01:26:38.790 --> 01:26:39.380
It's alright.
01:26:39.570 --> 01:26:40.370
Still or something?
01:26:41.120 --> 01:26:43.610
So I'm gonna follow up Shelby statement with like.
01:26:43.620 --> 01:26:43.840
Yeah.
01:26:43.850 --> 01:27:01.780
So that how would you, yeah, how would you and then with my opening statement too of how would you foresee funding that type of infrastructure development in your mind, what would your what would your opinion be to fund that type of investment?
01:27:02.840 --> 01:27:14.410
Now I would, I would say, you know, like federal state investment in infrastructure, but also too funding is not really the the problem.
01:27:14.420 --> 01:27:24.490
I think in some factors it's, you know it's regulation, regulatory signing, permitting time of you know that did takes to get these projects underway.
01:27:24.580 --> 01:27:29.830
And then knowing that a public referendum can come around at any time and say you can't do your project.
01:27:30.460 --> 01:27:36.040
So I think there's other challenges than just funding, but I think that is the that's the golden ticket question, right.
01:27:36.060 --> 01:27:36.630
So he's gonna pay.
01:27:39.510 --> 01:27:43.860
Never use it, please never use that user fees you know, but it's gotta get built.
01:27:43.870 --> 01:27:51.040
It's gotta get financed and it has to be done in such a way that it's sensitized and attractive to the person that's going to make that infrastructure.
01:27:51.050 --> 01:27:52.580
What did you say earlier?
01:27:52.590 --> 01:27:54.770
You municipalities can't take risk.
01:27:55.510 --> 01:27:55.840
Great.
01:27:55.850 --> 01:28:02.050
So private companies are going to have to take that risk, but using what money and for what guarantee, right?
01:28:02.190 --> 01:28:04.480
So I really don't know.
01:28:04.520 --> 01:28:06.810
I I I brought it up not knowing the answer.
01:28:06.820 --> 01:28:13.570
I brought it that bad as I see it the the I don't know about Wayne, but running running landfill E #1 rule.
01:28:14.310 --> 01:28:16.140
Ohh, I'd spend ever.
01:28:16.470 --> 01:28:18.220
You could screw everything else up.
01:28:18.430 --> 01:28:24.210
Do not space right people are depending on you to take care of this stuff, to throw it away.
01:28:24.220 --> 01:28:25.780
And that's what keeps me awake at night.
01:28:25.790 --> 01:28:28.980
Is the thought of holy cow, and we're gonna have enough space and we do.
01:28:29.020 --> 01:28:32.240
But it's what that's that's rule #1.
01:28:32.910 --> 01:28:34.520
Everything builds on that.
01:28:34.770 --> 01:28:39.200
You know, I I look at the hierarchy a little bit different, I would turn it upside down.
01:28:39.750 --> 01:28:57.420
I would say the landfills are your foundation and everything's built on and you can do any of the other stuff, but if you don't have that foundation well established and secure and you know that's the case and whether it's landfill or incinerator, I called them spoken to.
01:28:57.590 --> 01:29:01.300
That's not probably right, but yeah, some it's.
01:29:01.370 --> 01:29:04.560
Yeah, it's where the stuff is gone, please.
01:29:05.850 --> 01:29:06.600
Yeah, it's here.
01:29:08.740 --> 01:29:15.300
So but you said earlier you funnel everyone to these private holders.
01:29:15.470 --> 01:29:17.120
Is that because you don't want?
01:29:17.310 --> 01:29:19.740
You don't want cars coming to the lake, right?
01:29:19.750 --> 01:29:21.200
That's the that's traffic issue.
01:29:21.210 --> 01:29:36.050
It's just traffic so, but unfortunately when you're then doing that, then all of the let's get something out of the landfill that Shelby was talking about is becomes harder.
01:29:36.220 --> 01:29:38.930
Yeah, we, we actually had that conversation earlier.
01:29:39.450 --> 01:29:40.060
It's harder.
01:29:40.420 --> 01:29:52.880
I mean, one of the things that we think about when we try to do our programs and we've got take your light bulbs here and take your batteries here and take your eyes here is like people need like the place, right?
01:29:52.890 --> 01:30:05.230
They can go this if you want, you can drop it off and they can bring all their stuff and that obviously gets harder the more you spread out. Uh.
01:30:07.970 --> 01:30:09.330
Do you see is there?
01:30:12.390 --> 01:30:14.210
Capacity is there so in.
01:30:14.250 --> 01:30:30.810
If you think about your sites, how much of Overstock County is a WS 3/4 like 74% less calculation of the population of the basically the whole to the Saint John St.
01:30:30.900 --> 01:30:32.230
About everything else.
01:30:32.940 --> 01:30:38.180
And so you have these 20 sites like to what extent could these other sites be?
01:30:39.860 --> 01:30:49.490
Would it be helpful if they were able to take more if they were able to be more of a hub for taking all of this stuff, do you think that would encourage people to use them?
01:30:49.650 --> 01:30:53.160
Probably could like satellite transfer station type thing.
01:30:53.460 --> 01:30:55.190
Well, you don't need if you.
01:30:55.200 --> 01:30:59.310
If you're recycling, you're on transfer station, right?
01:30:59.320 --> 01:31:00.070
Right, OK.
01:31:00.400 --> 01:31:01.450
You're gonna take everything.
01:31:01.460 --> 01:31:06.950
You're also going to take your trash that people wanna take their trash one round trip?
01:31:06.960 --> 01:31:08.340
Well, but if you've got, but if you've got.
01:31:09.890 --> 01:31:10.360
Yeah, right.
01:31:10.370 --> 01:31:13.500
So if you've already got a private poll coming to your house, chances.
01:31:13.510 --> 01:31:23.520
If you go into this other place, even if it's a fairly convenient place or significantly lower, yeah, I mean, ideally you and everything would be curbside collected.
01:31:23.950 --> 01:31:25.120
That's not gonna happen.
01:31:25.370 --> 01:31:29.460
We just don't have that kind of population based where everything can be curbside collected.
01:31:29.890 --> 01:31:36.530
You know your your trash picked up Tuesday recyclables on Wednesday, and it's involved on that way at the curve.
01:31:36.540 --> 01:31:38.080
That's that's not gonna work.
01:31:38.690 --> 01:31:39.200
Account.
01:31:39.210 --> 01:31:39.740
It works.
01:31:39.750 --> 01:31:49.280
And Portland to do happens agreements don't do it now cause Bangor is all you know, whatever he that's that's that's that's the ideal.
01:31:49.610 --> 01:31:50.720
But it's gonna be curbside.
01:31:50.730 --> 01:32:11.970
Second ideal would be everybody goes to want to spot and they already have people come to pick up their trash and it would free and they they have multiple convenient places to take everything else that could be visible too, as long as it's no problem with a lot of the work to do to convenient spots is their backs of fields and woods roads up here?
01:32:11.980 --> 01:32:13.130
That's that's a real challenge.
01:32:13.360 --> 01:32:13.950
What you thinking?
01:32:13.960 --> 01:32:18.530
You're rural areas so much, Mark sons, Forest Ranger.
01:32:18.620 --> 01:32:23.130
I talked to him a lot about found another dump and it's only three acres.
01:32:23.280 --> 01:32:23.580
Yay.
01:32:23.910 --> 01:32:26.660
Yeah, but seriously, we we're good.
01:32:26.830 --> 01:32:28.920
We have lots of satellite landfills.
01:32:29.250 --> 01:32:31.040
Riverside County go on Google Earth.
01:32:31.050 --> 01:32:32.140
You can find and it's.
01:32:32.150 --> 01:32:38.660
It's a struggling we have no solid waste person, you know, chasing them down in northern Maine too.
01:32:38.670 --> 01:32:39.910
And that's that's been a child.
01:32:39.920 --> 01:32:46.290
I don't mark spoke to me about losing volume after we lost our soldiers that seriously.
01:32:46.300 --> 01:32:50.450
So that's it's substantially so it just usually trash just to just.
01:32:50.460 --> 01:32:51.170
I'm curious.
01:32:51.180 --> 01:32:54.870
They look at Struction and demo debris, a huge one, right?
01:32:54.920 --> 01:32:55.140
Yeah.
01:32:55.150 --> 01:32:55.590
Pause.
01:32:55.600 --> 01:32:56.140
Disappear.
01:32:57.450 --> 01:33:03.560
You know, on main streets and then we find the big pile of demo on it back 40 somewhere.
01:33:04.460 --> 01:33:05.990
But we do have household trash.
01:33:06.000 --> 01:33:11.540
I mean, we think of the North Caribbean field there for three or four year, that was huge.
01:33:11.550 --> 01:33:17.930
I mean, it's four acres or I tore open bags and they were bad dresses and was like 20 households using it, right?
01:33:18.350 --> 01:33:20.760
Just a little bit here, if you don't mind.
01:33:20.870 --> 01:33:29.920
So the demo debris, something that's something separate, another huge issue, but I think what we were talking about poster up here later Depot which is separate.
01:33:29.930 --> 01:33:32.800
So people have their trash picked up at their house.
01:33:32.810 --> 01:33:33.980
They want to do recycling.
01:33:33.990 --> 01:33:42.510
Maybe they can't do it correct side, but if there were hugs across the region where they could take the recyclables, the demo was a totally separate that's much bigger beast.
01:33:42.520 --> 01:33:47.070
But it is a it's that's challenge here because it has to be super convenient, right?
01:33:47.080 --> 01:33:49.960
Because it's super easy to super to be to dot.
01:33:50.000 --> 01:33:52.120
Yeah, you know, we can get weird things.
01:33:52.130 --> 01:33:54.430
You know, it's my nephew stopped over.
01:33:54.440 --> 01:33:55.670
He was going to the dump.
01:33:55.680 --> 01:34:01.610
That's why my name was in a bag of trash down in the gravel pit, you know, and that kind of stuff.
01:34:01.620 --> 01:34:01.980
You did.
01:34:02.850 --> 01:34:05.470
That was your different we got.
01:34:05.670 --> 01:34:07.210
We got a comment. Cat.
01:34:07.830 --> 01:34:09.790
Cat, Telly or presenter?
01:34:11.560 --> 01:34:15.050
Hi yeah I got a message up here says I'm a presenter.
01:34:15.060 --> 01:34:16.400
I'm not quite sure if you want me to be.
01:34:17.940 --> 01:34:20.040
You might wanna change my status.
01:34:20.690 --> 01:34:21.190
Ohh you'll be.
01:34:22.580 --> 01:34:23.370
I I beg your pardon.
01:34:24.350 --> 01:34:25.980
I'll change you as soon as you through.
01:34:25.900 --> 01:34:26.570
OK.
01:34:26.580 --> 01:34:27.230
Thank you.
01:34:27.310 --> 01:34:28.050
Uh, yeah.
01:34:28.060 --> 01:34:40.660
I just finished attending a meeting with the Municipal Review Committee down in Orono and they're talking about their new association with a startup company called Innovative Resource Recovery.
01:34:41.130 --> 01:34:54.050
And they have no intentions of incineration or using any kind of anaerobic, anaerobic digestion for organic materials, except for daily cover for landfills.
01:34:54.320 --> 01:35:04.130
They will send anything that is not recyclable and they hope to meet the 50% benchmark for recycling to Crossroads landfill.
01:35:05.440 --> 01:35:12.150
Ask them what they plan to do when landfills are exhausted and they really didn't have an answer for that.
01:35:15.410 --> 01:35:15.550
Yep.
01:35:12.160 --> 01:35:26.910
They said that's the states problem, you know, so, uh, so given the problems that Juniper Ridge has been having, I live right down the road from Juniper Ridge in Argyle and about nine years ago, the MRC tried to put a landfill in our town, which we defeated.
01:35:27.310 --> 01:35:32.490
And so I'm very invested in finding solutions for rural waste management.
01:35:32.620 --> 01:35:40.050
I feel that the problems with rural waste management and March nodding his head because I attended meetings with him before and I understand.
01:35:40.060 --> 01:35:50.870
I grew up in Hudson, Maine and we had a 65 acre farm and at the back of that farm there was a dump, you know, where people would take what they couldn't burn in the burn barrel and dump it down at the back 40.
01:35:50.980 --> 01:35:53.830
And and it was usually glass and cans.
01:35:53.880 --> 01:36:08.340
So now today, with everything being disposable, we really need to and I'm really encouraged by this discussion here, because I sent Robert Burke a list of questions and suggestions.
01:36:08.350 --> 01:36:25.480
I don't know if he shared that with you, but I'd be happy to send it on again if someone could give me an email address to send it to and my solution after growing up in rural Maine is that we do need to have a distributed yet cooperative association between towns.
01:36:25.830 --> 01:36:37.980
Every town used to have its own duck and as badly planned and as badly situated as they were, they I think are still grandfathered in and could be converted into transfer stations.
01:36:37.990 --> 01:36:41.120
So if everyone could, we always used to go to the dump, right?
01:36:41.130 --> 01:36:42.700
And that was almost like an event.
01:36:43.250 --> 01:36:51.130
We take our trash can down and dump whatever we had left, but also at the dump was the section of things that were too good to toss.
01:36:51.340 --> 01:37:04.550
Now these are things that probably wouldn't go into a goodwill store or a used furniture store or whatever, but they were things that some people found useful, like building supplies and paint, and Roundup and clothing.
01:37:04.560 --> 01:37:08.300
My mother used to take a claw hammer with her and we'd stripped down any furniture.
01:37:08.310 --> 01:37:10.430
That was at the dump and we reupholster it.
01:37:10.720 --> 01:37:23.570
People in the rurals are very creative and we find a use for most everything and that's why you see a bunch of cars parked in the front yard because they're parts cars because the car we're driving has to pass inspection.
01:37:24.180 --> 01:37:34.580
So if you'd like me to send this on, I don't wanna be long winded or take up your time, but I would be happy to share this information with you because it is kind of covering what you're touching on right here.
01:37:34.590 --> 01:37:36.290
And I think it might be a solution.
01:37:36.400 --> 01:37:40.030
The solution I feel is not to have big regional dumps.
01:37:40.240 --> 01:37:46.190
The solution is to have a satellite cooperative of of local dumps.
01:37:46.260 --> 01:37:53.280
You know, and I call them thumbs because you know, that's where we can call them transfer stations, if that's better.
01:37:53.580 --> 01:38:00.220
But this would be a collection site for things and then towns could collaborate on shipping them to an appropriate disposal site.
01:38:00.310 --> 01:38:01.920
It doesn't have to be everyday.
01:38:01.930 --> 01:38:03.760
It doesn't have to be every week.
01:38:04.110 --> 01:38:15.100
It doesn't have to be every 10 years, but still I think that if that is the focus of of changing the waste management rules that we could release the.
01:38:15.330 --> 01:38:34.280
Restrictions on no municipal dumps anymore and open them up again for non MSW products and to be able to hire people at the town level to go in and salvage and whatever can be gleaned from that to take it to the appropriate venue.
01:38:34.290 --> 01:38:41.560
And also what can't be could be put in a container and when it's full you take it to the landfill.
01:38:41.690 --> 01:38:53.050
So this whole curbside pickup thing, I I think is a mistake because it just encourages people to not to just throw everything away in the in the trash and nobody checks the truck.
01:38:53.150 --> 01:39:06.360
Nobody checks it when it dumps it in a container at at the Old Town transfer station, so a lot of things are slipping through the cracks that are contributing to the toxic chemical issue that we're facing right now.
01:39:06.450 --> 01:39:10.520
And it's interesting that all of these things are coming to a head at once.
01:39:11.410 --> 01:39:16.280
And right now, in the Bangor area, we really don't have any recycling solutions.
01:39:16.850 --> 01:39:17.210
Thank you.
01:39:19.720 --> 01:39:21.070
We need more transfer stations.
01:39:21.930 --> 01:39:22.230
Yeah.
01:39:24.480 --> 01:39:25.180
Old Town.
01:39:22.270 --> 01:39:26.900
Transfer stations work should they do so, it opens and yeah.
01:39:26.860 --> 01:39:27.410
I'm sorry.
01:39:27.460 --> 01:39:29.380
Are you talking about my transfer station?
01:39:29.390 --> 01:39:29.920
That I take my.
01:39:29.940 --> 01:39:31.860
Yeah, I was talking in general to everybody.
01:39:32.240 --> 01:39:33.620
Ohh OK sorry bye.
01:39:34.680 --> 01:39:40.160
So I really think the humans keep in rural area and it lends itself to a lot of solutions.
01:39:41.680 --> 01:39:50.960
They uh, it can be dynamic and changeable, they can evolve and they need to because we have an ever changing waste tree.
01:39:51.620 --> 01:39:52.130
Umm.
01:39:52.600 --> 01:39:57.610
And it takes a lot of that traffic pressure off the landfill in.
01:39:59.810 --> 01:40:05.680
You know when I mean our facility in Fort Fairfield, Shelby toward it with me today.
01:40:05.690 --> 01:40:10.350
And you know, basically we operate a landfill and a transfer station at the same site.
01:40:10.360 --> 01:40:11.200
That's what we're doing.
01:40:11.370 --> 01:40:15.820
It's it's a combination of both and that's what we've been doing in Prescott.
01:40:15.880 --> 01:40:25.710
Yeah, goes collection of all but as far as other transfer stations like other municipal sites that are taking recycling only.
01:40:25.720 --> 01:40:34.230
Are there any or we have some other than the lot of our customers or in some cases are individual municipalities that don't transfer station.
01:40:34.240 --> 01:40:40.850
Everything is server side and collected and all to the landfill, but we gassed up regional transfer station.
01:40:40.860 --> 01:40:41.610
Ashland's a good example.
01:40:41.620 --> 01:40:42.210
Example.
01:40:42.220 --> 01:40:43.730
Ashley has a transfer station.
01:40:43.740 --> 01:40:45.570
They're serving, I think, 7 towns.
01:40:46.020 --> 01:40:47.360
They do their own recycling.
01:40:47.370 --> 01:40:48.410
They don't recycle with us.
01:40:48.420 --> 01:40:53.400
They make their own recycling, but we are the destination for the trailer when it's full of trash.
01:40:54.670 --> 01:40:57.680
The pine Tree Transfer station in hole.
01:40:57.990 --> 01:40:59.720
How many misspellings they're serving?
01:40:59.990 --> 01:41:02.720
A bunch of them, that whole Southern rustic area.
01:41:02.730 --> 01:41:06.840
So that's, that's all been, that's all over time as evolved here.
01:41:07.470 --> 01:41:09.540
Eagle Lake has a transfer station that.
01:41:10.590 --> 01:41:22.940
Does the same thing, so that's worked because they're a transfer station frenchville, they're service Centers for large, for spread out populations, kind of just evolved where it made sense to do right.
01:41:22.950 --> 01:41:25.880
You know, since the 1990s.
01:41:25.890 --> 01:41:28.880
Yeah, we're all going when the sound dump was closed.
01:41:28.890 --> 01:41:30.380
What are we gonna do exactly?
01:41:30.710 --> 01:41:34.690
It's evolved and it's been very much regionalized here, Costa County and it works.
01:41:36.760 --> 01:41:39.450
I mean it works to the extent that it extent that that's.
01:41:41.640 --> 01:41:46.000
And why is it to that extent what's so, you know, it's gotta figure out, friend.
01:41:46.010 --> 01:41:47.560
She's gonna figure out Ashley's figure it out.
01:41:47.570 --> 01:41:47.770
What?
01:41:47.780 --> 01:41:49.030
What these other places?
01:41:49.040 --> 01:41:50.870
What for men, but most of them are.
01:41:50.880 --> 01:41:59.890
You are sharing one of those or like in some of the communities or right around for Fairfield or such a realistic they just halt direct to the main but they don't have to transfer station.
01:42:00.600 --> 01:42:01.520
Those are the towns.
01:42:01.530 --> 01:42:02.890
Usually we have Englands.
01:42:02.980 --> 01:42:07.440
That's where our recycling drop offs are because they don't have that that service.
01:42:07.450 --> 01:42:08.230
So we provide.
01:42:10.410 --> 01:42:11.520
Difference difference lacking.
01:42:11.650 --> 01:42:12.390
But I mean what?
01:42:13.450 --> 01:42:15.720
It gets to a certain point, and it's gonna be economics.
01:42:15.730 --> 01:42:20.970
It's just so far you're going to transport things and it's so far you can ask me to drive everything.
01:42:22.470 --> 01:42:30.860
Thinking of this hub and spoke than years ago, we'd working with Nick about the idea of HW doing that.
01:42:30.910 --> 01:42:37.720
Yeah, we would have the single you said the day collections Presque Isle or Caribou and that was it.
01:42:37.850 --> 01:42:45.460
She's why can't we have on the same day earlier today someone collecting this stuff, paint or whatever up in frenchville and drive it down.
01:42:46.540 --> 01:42:47.230
So they need.
01:42:47.280 --> 01:42:53.600
How do you not really hard to explain permanently transport license, you know, and it's all those things that just can't do it. Yeah.
01:42:55.940 --> 01:42:59.210
But again, transfer stations kind of lend themselves to that.
01:42:59.220 --> 01:43:04.260
You just cite your picked up your hazardous waste station.
01:43:06.140 --> 01:43:07.840
It looks pizza show anymore.
01:43:07.890 --> 01:43:22.180
So, so the operational costs are shared about so fewer people, areas, you know that that's the thing getting a human being to sit there and equipment, it's shared across a lot less people, right, our geographical area.
01:43:22.190 --> 01:43:26.750
So you need 20 all the the net cost is higher into the community.
01:43:26.760 --> 01:43:31.960
You know it's competing with the school, you know, plowing the roads and everything else.
01:43:31.970 --> 01:43:33.450
And that's that's fair.
01:43:33.520 --> 01:43:35.260
So they WS exists?
01:43:35.460 --> 01:43:35.820
Yeah.
01:43:36.040 --> 01:43:37.170
Need one entity now?
01:43:37.180 --> 01:43:37.470
Certainly.
01:43:38.920 --> 01:43:41.640
So, OK, curbside and all these towns is cheaper.
01:43:43.220 --> 01:43:44.180
It depends.
01:43:44.680 --> 01:43:45.670
I don't know what cheaper.
01:43:45.680 --> 01:43:46.130
It's hard.
01:43:46.140 --> 01:43:48.030
We don't have relative scale, right?
01:43:48.340 --> 01:43:50.720
So bucks a month now, 15 months.
01:43:50.730 --> 01:43:52.180
Well, you're a customer.
01:43:53.090 --> 01:43:57.550
Think I'm paying 15 bucks a month towards Midcoast solid waste?
01:43:58.000 --> 01:44:00.190
So, but that's OK.
01:44:00.410 --> 01:44:03.210
Most of the commercial haulers are probably 25 to 30.
01:44:06.210 --> 01:44:10.030
Yeah, needs to be looked at because it's just trash, not trash.
01:44:10.330 --> 01:44:11.480
The town's being the topic.
01:44:11.550 --> 01:44:13.210
Yeah, right.
01:44:13.220 --> 01:44:13.940
So then they're paying.
01:44:13.950 --> 01:44:18.130
So then you're paying the tipping fee, plus paint tipping through through your taxes.
01:44:18.140 --> 01:44:19.730
And then you're paying the right?
01:44:20.060 --> 01:44:23.010
Yeah, unless you're in Presque Isle and it's a different system.
01:44:23.120 --> 01:44:30.130
But yeah, the big fees are included cost city does not pay the tipping fee.
01:44:32.450 --> 01:44:32.790
Let's go.
01:44:34.090 --> 01:44:38.340
Things have evolved in different ways, so.
01:44:38.400 --> 01:44:46.440
So if we go to the packaging for second, municipal cost is a reimbursable cost to this cost is not our.
01:44:47.900 --> 01:44:59.460
You're going to have a situation where if the municipality we're taking on that cost, it becomes a reimbursable cost, potentially goes down and versus if citizens got that cost, it's not a reimbursable.
01:45:01.810 --> 01:45:23.890
And yet so it so in terms of the economics, what's cheaper the packaging program will push even further towards, you know it's over to look at the full picture that being a cheaper scenario and yet you've got I guess the train and all the momentum going in the other direction.
01:45:25.080 --> 01:45:25.720
So do we.
01:45:25.730 --> 01:45:36.400
I mean, is it like a study that an economic study that looks at, you know what people are paying versus what might be a transfer station thing?
01:45:36.410 --> 01:45:46.610
How do you, you know, if we if we're changing that economics potentially, how do we get that change in the economics to to influence what's actually happening?
01:45:46.620 --> 01:45:49.640
Because I can imagine that it just doesn't change because it's already doing this.
01:45:51.660 --> 01:45:58.190
Even if and actually, it would make sense for everyone to do something different, assuming that it would be.
01:45:58.200 --> 01:45:59.800
Isn't that can I?
01:45:59.850 --> 01:46:01.230
Can I clarify what you just said?
01:46:01.240 --> 01:46:03.100
Because I think I got it, but I don't know.
01:46:03.610 --> 01:46:12.500
I apologize for that, but hell, it's not sure you saying that instead of encouraging, like curbside collection or people to transfer stations.
01:46:12.510 --> 01:46:20.080
So we should be pushing the municipalities to reinforce reimburse private haulers to do that for them.
01:46:20.090 --> 01:46:24.760
So innocent municipal offense of expense that can be funneled through the PR program.
01:46:24.810 --> 01:46:26.860
Is that so? So.
01:46:27.560 --> 01:46:31.370
You just pull expense can go through the I PR program.
01:46:31.380 --> 01:46:42.880
So whether that's the town paying for curbside right or having a transfer station, we were just talking about the transfer station operationally having a person there.
01:46:43.240 --> 01:46:45.340
So you have you either way you do it right.
01:46:45.730 --> 01:46:59.460
If it's a municipal expense, it's a it would be potentially reimbursable because the subscription services that the private citizen pay to, you know Bob to come and pick up their trash or not reimburse no.
01:46:59.590 --> 01:47:10.000
So are you suggesting that we should be moving towards more municipal services because it's going to be a reimbursable expense under BR?
01:47:10.350 --> 01:47:12.480
I wouldn't say that I'm suggesting that we do that.
01:47:12.490 --> 01:47:29.100
And what I'm saying is that, well, the reality is that the economic other such right, that if that were me display expense, this program potentially you know results in a situation where where curbside where it makes sense financially.
01:47:29.110 --> 01:47:40.360
If you think about the total amount that a person is paying for their trash for it to be done by the municipality, and yet we're already doing it this way, I'm moving it to this system.
01:47:40.580 --> 01:47:48.420
Even if we change the economics so that it makes sense to do a transfer station where you are.
01:47:49.060 --> 01:47:58.890
Umm getting sort of more of the recycling done and and and having other options for people to deal with their material other than just throw it in the trash.
01:47:59.440 --> 01:48:09.670
If that becomes more financially, you know because of this program is that is that's not necessarily gonna change what's happening.
01:48:09.680 --> 01:48:10.780
How do we make it change?
01:48:10.790 --> 01:48:12.820
Potentially what's happening, correct?
01:48:13.850 --> 01:48:14.210
Thank you.
01:48:15.680 --> 01:48:17.030
I don't know how many clear that it was.
01:48:17.850 --> 01:48:19.630
A question, though I don't know the answer.
01:48:19.640 --> 01:48:21.970
I don't if there's an answer that question cause girls.
01:48:22.520 --> 01:48:38.530
So I've heard from some that like you can get studies done that would like a couple of talents get together and someone is looking at what people are paying currently and what it would cost because I guess that's a big question mark right to to do things in other way.
01:48:38.540 --> 01:48:43.660
And so that you can actually their costs at least to the theoretical manner.
01:48:43.870 --> 01:48:49.080
I don't know if this is what you're getting that one of the interest, one of the things that happens is people.
01:48:51.490 --> 01:49:04.360
Most people general public don't necessarily equate the property tax bill to the services they're receiving, so this is one of the reasons press Kyle has a system that they do.
01:49:04.410 --> 01:49:11.940
People pay for their it's not truly a paper bag, but it's a semi user symptoms.
01:49:12.330 --> 01:49:13.990
But I don't want to get into the details of that.
01:49:15.100 --> 01:49:17.230
People see that and they recognize that.
01:49:17.280 --> 01:49:31.930
So if you say if if we are providing the service and and it's revealing it to tipping fees at the landfill caring for example or fill the Caribou, it goes in their tax, it was in their budget as part of the property tax.
01:49:31.940 --> 01:49:45.230
Nobody sees and I could say, well, we're going to if we reduce our cost because we can get reimbursed from an E PR program, we reduce how much we're charging care bill, the cable, theoretically we produce our tax that isn't gonna happen.
01:49:45.230 --> 01:49:46.410
No, that's OK.
01:49:46.720 --> 01:49:50.890
That could theoretically, theoretically, but people don't see them.
01:49:50.930 --> 01:49:57.050
What they see is I'm paying my garbage Hauler $40 a month to take my trash away.
01:49:57.060 --> 01:49:58.600
They don't really even know what that pains for.
01:49:59.790 --> 01:50:08.870
So I think what you're saying is if you can give people to have a direct correlation to the paying less to change their, they're more likely to change what they're doing.
01:50:10.090 --> 01:50:21.510
I didn't explain that very well, but which is the whole voice of a of a user fee paper bag type system where you know you do this then you could it cost you less.
01:50:23.190 --> 01:50:28.820
So we don't see much that almost almost most of the programs up here are based.
01:50:30.870 --> 01:50:34.550
So for me, it's telling you all about how paper bag works too.
01:50:35.850 --> 01:50:36.100
Yeah.
01:50:36.110 --> 01:50:37.420
Yeah, orange bag.
01:50:37.430 --> 01:50:39.670
Still, seeing that you're still seeing them, don't they?
01:50:39.680 --> 01:50:42.330
They go into the countryside because you could set him iced.
01:50:43.170 --> 01:50:44.900
Back here, all the background dumping.
01:50:45.930 --> 01:50:46.070
Yeah.
01:50:46.190 --> 01:50:47.920
Or Cat's got another minute.
01:50:48.220 --> 01:50:51.180
We're still landfill.
01:50:51.370 --> 01:50:54.890
Yeah, the preschool went it.
01:50:52.840 --> 01:50:56.510
I sorry I annoyed the MRC too.
01:50:57.000 --> 01:50:58.950
Bob Duchene calls me troublesome.
01:50:59.080 --> 01:51:03.090
So one of the suggestions I had is my hands still raised.
01:51:03.100 --> 01:51:03.380
I'm sorry.
01:51:03.920 --> 01:51:04.480
Uh.
01:51:04.820 --> 01:51:12.250
Is that charge people who come to the transfer station by weight instead of per bed?
01:51:13.270 --> 01:51:23.420
OK, the heavy items, food, paint, digital equipment, things like that are going, batteries are going to weigh a lot.
01:51:23.830 --> 01:51:40.480
So if they put it on the scale and they see that they're paying $15 to dump that trash can full of trash out, or they go and they take the food out, they take all the heavy stuff out, they put that in an available and that's the key part is it's gotta be there for them.
01:51:42.510 --> 01:51:42.680
It's.
01:51:40.830 --> 01:51:47.680
They can put the food in food waste in they can put the digital stuff in the digital bin and the recycling and the recycling bin.
01:51:47.870 --> 01:51:59.220
And then they can weigh what exactly they're throwing away, which if it's done right, should basically be paper Styrofoam, those little diapers they put in meat trays and diapers for humans and whatnot.
01:51:59.280 --> 01:52:06.590
So I think that a lot of people resent having to pay for everybody else's wastefulness.
01:52:06.700 --> 01:52:17.830
I know rural Maine does because a lot of the wasteful the waste comes from urban main, not rural Maine, so we need better solutions for rural people and we don't have a lot of money.
01:52:17.920 --> 01:52:33.300
But so if you hit them in the pocketbook when they go to the transfer station and they can reduce their bill and only pay, say, $5 a month to dump their trash, their tax bill doesn't go up and everyone sees what everyone else is throwing away.
01:52:33.530 --> 01:52:37.080
And I'll tell you, peer pressure in the rurals is pretty strong.
01:52:37.440 --> 01:52:47.530
So if people are paying for somebody else to throw their cardboard, they bring home from Hannaford to feed their livestock of the food it collect for free.
01:52:47.620 --> 01:52:55.210
And I'm paying them to dump their cardboard in the in the dump truck rather than taking it to the transfer station to get recycled.
01:52:55.380 --> 01:52:56.810
It's gonna **** me off.
01:52:57.160 --> 01:53:11.740
So I think that you'll get cooperation from people if you enlist the aid of town managers, select men and any other representatives, act activist groups, and the other nonprofit groups to help spread the word.
01:53:12.240 --> 01:53:19.250
And this way I think that people will comply and eventually they'll come around to it.
01:53:19.410 --> 01:53:21.780
We never used to have trash can bags.
01:53:21.790 --> 01:53:24.240
We never used to have plastic bags for everything.
01:53:24.310 --> 01:53:25.540
This is a new thing.
01:53:25.550 --> 01:53:26.820
This is a new habit.
01:53:27.110 --> 01:53:29.840
We are killing ourselves with conveniences.
01:53:32.180 --> 01:53:32.620
Thank you.
01:53:34.120 --> 01:53:34.430
Thank you.
01:53:39.160 --> 01:53:40.590
So it's one other topic.
01:53:40.600 --> 01:53:46.080
If you're looking at getting back to the plan, I guess we've had an interesting discussion, but getting back to the plan and what should be in it.
01:53:47.290 --> 01:53:50.260
Just throw out that four letter word.
01:53:50.270 --> 01:53:53.590
Pee fast probably ought to be at least looked at.
01:53:56.150 --> 01:53:59.190
It I the whole beefs issue.
01:54:00.610 --> 01:54:06.770
Will probably do well as anybody kind of thrust upon all of us is not just us.
01:54:07.320 --> 01:54:07.970
Others ways.
01:54:07.980 --> 01:54:08.890
What are treatment plants?
01:54:08.900 --> 01:54:15.050
Things of that nature without benefit of any type of free planning or foresight, or how are we going to do this?
01:54:16.330 --> 01:54:17.800
This is a five year plan.
01:54:17.810 --> 01:54:24.380
It's an opportunity to be able to at least look at how we going to handle this because it's it's it's gonna end up affecting.
01:54:24.990 --> 01:54:31.940
So it is like mine, probably weightings at some point likely gonna be or potentially good extremely expensive.
01:54:31.950 --> 01:54:33.280
So I just think it's.
01:54:33.330 --> 01:54:40.280
And again, I don't have an answer, but if you're looking for topics that should be planned around, be fast when you want to.
01:54:40.500 --> 01:54:44.480
That I'm putting, it's not you already thought of that or not?
01:54:44.490 --> 01:54:45.850
Definitely the hot topic.
01:54:47.180 --> 01:54:49.300
That's, that's the second thing that scares me to death.
01:54:49.380 --> 01:55:03.880
Other than space by this out to prevent more pee fast from happening like I'm looking at these ragged old Teflon pants that come into our thrift store and Anna like garbage it, you know, or whatever.
01:55:04.100 --> 01:55:08.060
But is there anything now to stop war?
01:55:08.190 --> 01:55:08.660
I mean, what?
01:55:08.670 --> 01:55:08.960
What?
01:55:09.390 --> 01:55:19.750
What on the legislative side, I can't speak to it if there's a ban on most products starting the 2030, but that's essentially that's not take care of what's already trashed, right?
01:55:19.850 --> 01:55:20.340
No.
01:55:20.400 --> 01:55:22.940
Cast iron and the spirit has baby.
01:55:23.780 --> 01:55:24.210
That's.
01:55:25.520 --> 01:55:26.350
Yeah, my kitchen.
01:55:26.500 --> 01:55:29.290
These cats are like which to bamboo.
01:55:29.330 --> 01:55:29.780
That's fine.
01:55:30.110 --> 01:55:31.960
Yeah, they started the cycle.
01:55:31.970 --> 01:55:33.310
That's right, backwards.
01:55:33.320 --> 01:55:43.110
To go forwards I when I see the amount of Teflon cookware I'm not we get and I mean I know teflon's only one piece of it, but it's big piece of light because I see it so much.
01:55:43.280 --> 01:55:44.020
Who is this all?
01:55:45.110 --> 01:55:46.960
All scratched up all mass.
01:55:47.090 --> 01:55:49.220
Thinking wow, somebody was getting out of this thing.
01:55:49.290 --> 01:55:49.640
Yeah.
01:55:49.650 --> 01:55:51.360
And you just throw out the trash.
01:55:51.370 --> 01:55:53.920
You'd be surprised at how many different things have been.
01:55:54.890 --> 01:55:57.710
Ohh I know, I know there's more but like that's in my face.
01:55:57.720 --> 01:56:01.310
Yeah, in the trash or in your metal that you're waiting for someone.
01:56:01.320 --> 01:56:01.760
Yeah.
01:56:01.770 --> 01:56:10.450
Well, you used to go in our mental, but that's not going in our metal so much because that's we already knew that it was bad to eat off Teflon pans when they were scratched up, right?
01:56:10.460 --> 01:56:12.700
We still did it anyway, and now there's Pete boss in it.
01:56:12.710 --> 01:56:13.800
And they're all scratched up.
01:56:14.040 --> 01:56:17.150
Still do it anyway, and but that's what people.
01:56:17.620 --> 01:56:22.870
That's what people know that some people know some people maybe change, but you didn't talk.
01:56:23.720 --> 01:56:28.790
My God got this thing of being Foss shoe waterproofing.
01:56:28.900 --> 01:56:29.390
Yeah.
01:56:29.440 --> 01:56:30.480
What do I do with it?
01:56:31.040 --> 01:56:31.810
I know our.
01:56:31.920 --> 01:56:33.830
Yeah. Take it.
01:56:34.230 --> 01:56:35.720
That's that's the answer.
01:56:35.730 --> 01:57:03.640
It's just so much for being with the clothes and everything, but it's just like when we just keep away until somebody comes up with the the laws passed last year and it's a ban on intentionally added pbos in any product that is manufactured or sold in the state of May and they they just passed kind of a revision of that law to make some of the reporting requirements a little bit more fluid.
01:57:03.650 --> 01:57:28.740
I guess it's a huge debate because obviously the producers and sometimes it's very hard to find what I mean it's 17,000 chemicals you know, so everybody from Toyota to LL Bean to Hannaford to every you know, anybody that puts anything in a jar with their neighborhood or anything that has to know how this stuff is processed, if they get parts from China, if they get, they have to know.
01:57:28.750 --> 01:57:31.290
And so it's arduous process.
01:57:31.540 --> 01:57:41.110
And so 2030, we gotta come in from marking and I think you probably don't think that's something you're scared.
01:57:43.120 --> 01:57:44.880
You you're muted though.
01:57:45.240 --> 01:57:46.390
Can you please?
01:57:47.930 --> 01:57:50.620
Yeah, park your muted.
01:57:52.730 --> 01:57:52.890
Yeah.
01:57:52.440 --> 01:57:53.660
And that you hear me now.
01:57:54.450 --> 01:57:54.950
Yes, Sir.
01:57:55.760 --> 01:57:56.490
OK.
01:57:56.900 --> 01:58:02.750
Well, we're talking about emerging contaminants of concern, especially with my world and organics.
01:58:09.640 --> 01:58:09.800
Yeah.
01:58:02.760 --> 01:58:15.750
The other one that's coming into main like a bull coming through the gate is microplastics and and they're going to be a really, really big issue because they are created by everything.
01:58:16.360 --> 01:58:21.180
And I think that if we can get a handle on that early, we're gonna be much better ahead of the game.
01:58:24.560 --> 01:58:24.920
Thank you.
01:58:24.350 --> 01:58:25.710
And I will unraised my hand.
01:58:26.900 --> 01:58:27.840
I'm depressed.
01:58:27.850 --> 01:58:28.800
That's gonna say that's.
01:58:32.220 --> 01:58:43.430
It's always I will come back to but again, but still like you EP, just recently released the survey of wastewater effluents.
01:58:45.660 --> 01:58:50.180
Yesterday I was like done sampling and whole bunch of slides.
01:58:54.620 --> 01:59:02.410
On the higher results it's it's seems to be facilities with Lee Jayden them sadly change, right?
01:59:02.420 --> 01:59:03.110
I'd be bossy.
01:59:05.110 --> 01:59:06.480
Had to get her arms around that too.
01:59:06.590 --> 01:59:09.720
You to be.
01:59:09.850 --> 01:59:18.750
It's pretty strong stuff too, and you know the treatment plants can treat leachate 2 degrees where you know they can take out the high DoD.
01:59:18.760 --> 01:59:23.370
And we can get the little chonky fire shot and always come out for us.
01:59:23.380 --> 01:59:25.590
Just sleeps all through because it's slippery.
01:59:25.600 --> 01:59:26.210
Heats up.
01:59:27.280 --> 01:59:29.410
That's that's gonna be a problem, then.
01:59:29.420 --> 01:59:29.930
Very true.
01:59:31.470 --> 01:59:31.690
It's.
01:59:32.370 --> 01:59:38.020
But you know, I I think I old enough to remember when dioxin was diagnosed.
01:59:38.030 --> 01:59:45.450
The entire world and you know, we was amazing to me how quickly we got her arms around it.
01:59:45.460 --> 01:59:46.450
And got rid of it.
01:59:46.670 --> 01:59:47.290
He did.
01:59:47.480 --> 01:59:52.720
And you know, it was like 5 years later, that was the end of sledge lands spreading.
01:59:52.730 --> 01:59:54.090
I remember it was.
01:59:54.930 --> 02:00:00.180
No, I was hired to go around and chase backyard dumps after we shut down all the landfills.
02:00:00.190 --> 02:00:08.380
That was my first job at the climbing down over banks, ripping bags open and calling people saying hey, sorry still in your trash.
02:00:10.760 --> 02:00:11.220
Wait, do you?
02:00:13.240 --> 02:00:14.890
40 years later, you're still doing it.
02:00:14.900 --> 02:00:16.790
I'm a lot of progress.
02:00:16.800 --> 02:00:17.440
They understand.
02:00:18.570 --> 02:00:25.080
I I I gotta throw that little bit of optimism here that we're gonna get our focus and crisis.
02:00:25.090 --> 02:00:39.620
It's been a long, slow roll like can remember people going in the like Mark did microplastics 10 years ago, saying P Foss write that down and you know, and then I kept hearing it a little bit.
02:00:39.630 --> 02:00:42.680
These wastewater conventions and hey, this thing's coming, this guy.
02:00:42.690 --> 02:00:45.960
And then you know just right next door in New Hampshire, the world was blowing up.
02:00:46.960 --> 02:00:50.830
We've had the Peace Air Force Base and people were freaking out.
02:00:50.840 --> 02:00:53.120
Now it's like in Maine.
02:00:53.130 --> 02:00:56.810
We were like, we're a little too bad about New Hampshire.
02:00:58.490 --> 02:01:03.410
It it came to us, but I think we can like, look come around this.
02:01:04.200 --> 02:01:10.990
Manufacturers are, yeah, they are making new chemicals, renaming the big ones that we're fighting with are.
02:01:13.330 --> 02:01:17.180
Slowing down production and not appearing so much. Uh.
02:01:19.410 --> 02:01:19.750
We'll see.
02:01:20.660 --> 02:01:25.210
Seem to be so part of it since I was five year plan is too.
02:01:25.220 --> 02:01:26.060
I think it's important.
02:01:26.280 --> 02:01:28.530
Is problems that into the.
02:01:28.600 --> 02:01:29.100
Yeah.
02:01:29.140 --> 02:01:30.070
Yeah, you have to.
02:01:30.120 --> 02:01:32.630
And also I can promise you, yeah, that's what you.
02:01:32.770 --> 02:01:37.530
Yeah, USGS found active pharmaceutical science.
02:01:37.540 --> 02:01:43.190
It's slightly slightly don't break down and just keep the stuff.
02:01:43.240 --> 02:01:44.320
I think we'll probably we'll.
02:01:46.110 --> 02:01:50.300
Yeah, nobody would ever dumped there.
02:01:50.790 --> 02:01:53.660
No, they're they're leftover drugs down the toilet with.
02:01:53.670 --> 02:01:55.000
No, no more.
02:01:55.010 --> 02:02:04.340
So for a while though, and tell them that you are and people do that there's people are still folks to do that by the federal government and you still see it on TV.
02:02:04.350 --> 02:02:05.520
All crazy.
02:02:06.180 --> 02:02:06.910
Yeah, it's.
02:02:12.030 --> 02:02:17.400
He's shift a little bit and talk about someone's higher up the hierarchy stuff.
02:02:17.410 --> 02:02:34.090
I mean, we sort of this some talking points together, but thinking about reducing waste, what are some ways for opportunities like we think about refillable supremacy that more urban areas you've had some you know they'll find.
02:02:34.430 --> 02:02:35.290
Ohh made a comment.
02:02:38.010 --> 02:02:38.330
Thank you.
02:02:47.790 --> 02:02:48.860
Brian, you're on.
02:02:49.430 --> 02:02:50.140
You're muted too.
02:02:52.400 --> 02:02:53.130
There we go.
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They come here.
02:02:53.140 --> 02:02:53.730
Well, thank.
02:02:53.920 --> 02:02:55.190
Well, thank you for having me.
02:02:56.000 --> 02:02:57.540
I just want to see where this could fit.
02:02:57.550 --> 02:03:03.970
I thought this be a good segue so that I would ask my question here so I'm not really here to provide input, just a question so little bit of background.
02:03:03.980 --> 02:03:05.350
My name is Brian Pontius.
02:03:05.860 --> 02:03:18.150
I'm with Ingevity, which is based in North Charleston, SC, and so one of the businesses were in is compostable plastics and so that's the question I wanted to bring up and see what folks thoughts about it were in the room.
02:03:18.160 --> 02:03:24.240
And so when it comes to supporting organic recycling and reducing waste, I just was curious there.
02:03:24.250 --> 02:03:31.270
Any thoughts in the room about encouraging, particularly that comes to single use plastics encouraging to postable plastics instead?
02:03:32.190 --> 02:03:33.970
And what thoughts and remember about that?
02:03:33.980 --> 02:03:40.900
As far as its ability to reduce waste and also to help organic recyclers get more food to the compost.
02:03:40.970 --> 02:03:41.990
So that's my question.
02:03:44.950 --> 02:03:46.230
I surprise marching.
02:03:46.580 --> 02:03:58.970
The only color that's taking organics out of commercial kind of larger scale, nor can speak to this much better, but they're actually not taking any compostable plastics because of the contamination issues right now.
02:04:00.260 --> 02:04:01.530
Can you talk to that a little bit?
02:04:03.630 --> 02:04:06.220
It's thought he's caught away from his computer men.
02:04:06.470 --> 02:04:10.490
Ohh no alright, maybe spend more comes back.
02:04:10.500 --> 02:04:11.890
We're gonna talk.
02:04:12.020 --> 02:04:14.070
We should address that we should address that.
02:04:15.020 --> 02:04:20.900
Isn't part of it, though that you can discern between about postable and not part of.
02:04:20.910 --> 02:04:22.410
There is definitely part of that.
02:04:24.700 --> 02:04:25.330
You're on.
02:04:28.080 --> 02:04:28.650
Alright.
02:04:25.640 --> 02:04:30.040
Iran, Martin and you mean and nice.
02:04:30.650 --> 02:04:31.060
Yeah.
02:04:31.070 --> 02:04:31.980
Thank you.
02:04:32.290 --> 02:04:58.700
We we have real concerns given that the industry has already stated that a lot of the compostable items contained potential PFAS contaminants, but even more so, the research that I've done using compostable plastics, especially in leaf and yard systems where I've hit the 160 degrees for six weeks, I find that the the utensils and cups only get deformed.
02:04:58.710 --> 02:05:08.350
They don't break down completely and what does breakdown possibly leaves behind Ghost Plastics, which are considered almost as bad as microplastics.
02:05:08.670 --> 02:05:10.470
So we're just not in favor of it.
02:05:10.480 --> 02:05:27.470
And what we're promoting around the state for food composting is that people need to only use organics pre and post consumer without any contaminants, and that even includes paper plates and napkins because the P fast content of a lot of these items as you have to be determined.
02:05:29.770 --> 02:05:30.500
And teabags?
02:05:30.510 --> 02:05:31.030
Is that right?
02:05:31.040 --> 02:05:32.490
Mark teabags from microplastics.
02:05:31.800 --> 02:05:33.250
Yeah, yeah, Yep.
02:05:33.300 --> 02:05:39.330
Same unfortunately, and the Keurig cups, they go without saying.
02:05:39.620 --> 02:05:45.570
However, the ones that have the the container that you can actually refill the coffee, that's fine.
02:05:45.620 --> 02:05:52.290
So not not to put in the compost, but the grounds that come out of that, because those are are found to not have PFAS in them.
02:05:52.300 --> 02:06:00.090
So we're just trying to be cautious and careful because community based composting is one of the huge pushes for the department going forward.
02:06:00.460 --> 02:06:07.320
There's lots of groups that are trying to do a landfill band statewide which where way behind the 8 ball in that and need to catch up a bit.
02:06:07.770 --> 02:06:16.080
But as far as community based composting, we're just pushing straight organics as best we can until we know more about these compostable items.
02:06:16.450 --> 02:06:21.220
And just my research that I've done with the bags and others is that they just don't fully break down.
02:06:21.390 --> 02:06:23.590
So they leave behind contaminants and the finished compost.
02:06:27.200 --> 02:06:31.490
And there's nobody in Maine currently accepting those right, is that correct?
02:06:31.320 --> 02:06:31.980
There are.
02:06:31.990 --> 02:06:40.610
There are three facilities in Maine that currently accept all plastics and compostable items Exeter, Agra, cycle.
02:06:40.940 --> 02:06:43.680
They they take the contaminated waste stream in their department.
02:06:43.690 --> 02:06:51.650
They have packager and then what they pull out of the contaminated stream goes to eco main in this combusted for waste to energy.
02:06:51.960 --> 02:06:53.970
But we also have two composters.
02:06:53.980 --> 02:06:54.650
One is Mr.
02:06:54.660 --> 02:06:57.750
Fox in Berwick, South, Berwick, ME.
02:06:57.760 --> 02:07:01.860
He takes contaminated material and then sort of screens it and hand pulls it out.
02:07:02.360 --> 02:07:15.170
And then the other facility is we composted also known as MB, Bark and Auburn, where they take in a contaminated stream as well and they end up screening it like half a dozen times to try and move the visible plastic.
02:07:15.180 --> 02:07:21.210
But the concern is that as you're screening it, you break down those plastic particles and you know what?
02:07:21.220 --> 02:07:22.630
What remains in the finished compost?
02:07:24.680 --> 02:07:26.320
And no one's actually composing it.
02:07:26.330 --> 02:07:29.150
They're just, they're just separated, you know, before around.
02:07:28.480 --> 02:07:30.030
They're separating it out, correct?
02:07:30.120 --> 02:07:30.450
Correct.
02:07:30.460 --> 02:07:31.860
It's it's considered a contaminant.
02:07:33.060 --> 02:07:33.860
Still considering.
02:07:34.060 --> 02:07:34.700
Thanks, mark.
02:07:35.180 --> 02:07:35.300
Yes.
02:07:34.740 --> 02:07:36.150
Brian got another topic.
02:07:44.060 --> 02:07:46.060
They don't know Brian you.
02:07:45.290 --> 02:07:51.220
Just just very quickly, yeah, I just, I wanted to, I want to thank Mark for his comment and I think I will try to fight with him offline.
02:07:51.410 --> 02:07:53.720
I just would add, I mean, yeah, I mean, he's absolutely right.
02:07:53.730 --> 02:08:04.720
I mean, it's definitely a big issue with products being sold that say they're compostable and not meeting the right standards like from BPI or another third party certification.
02:08:04.730 --> 02:08:08.100
And so we're definitely aware of that, definitely understand that concern.
02:08:08.330 --> 02:08:15.960
I just would add in states like California, they've passed some pretty aggressive labeling laws so that you sell a compostable item.
02:08:16.540 --> 02:08:18.490
You know they can't contain PFAS.
02:08:18.600 --> 02:08:19.550
It can't contain.
02:08:19.560 --> 02:08:21.270
It has to be third party certified.
02:08:21.780 --> 02:08:22.850
You know things like that.
02:08:22.860 --> 02:08:27.480
So like I said, I mean, I definitely like to chat with Mark offline and I just stick this for the group.
02:08:27.490 --> 02:08:30.570
You know, I think it's there are some solutions to that problem.
02:08:30.940 --> 02:08:34.350
But yeah, I mean, I definitely get his concerns and I appreciate him raising them.
02:08:34.440 --> 02:08:35.180
So thank you.
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Thank you.
02:08:36.180 --> 02:08:37.290
They cheated.
02:08:37.440 --> 02:08:39.190
Brian, you're not Brian Beneski.
02:08:40.280 --> 02:08:40.830
Sure.
02:08:41.160 --> 02:08:42.250
So I mean, I'm just.
02:08:42.260 --> 02:08:59.790
I'm gonna throw out too, the, you know, with the the idea of the fact that if we, you know, we with compostable items versus single use items that then does add more complication to the stream because you know then people need to worry about.
02:09:00.020 --> 02:09:05.470
Ohh is this pork a plastic looking fork that's compostable or is it not?
02:09:05.480 --> 02:09:06.790
And and again it's.
02:09:06.880 --> 02:09:20.970
I mean, I think for me, I think one of our goals should be to try and simplify this way stream and recycling so that it's easy and it's what's one of the to so to adding.
02:09:23.820 --> 02:09:26.490
Compostable quote plastic with regular plastic.
02:09:26.500 --> 02:09:31.010
Again, kind of it complicates the recycling stream and I'll.
02:09:31.980 --> 02:09:32.710
Yeah, stop there.
02:09:34.850 --> 02:09:35.330
Thanks Brendan.
02:09:37.760 --> 02:09:39.890
Think you would asked about reuse, right? Yeah.
02:09:39.930 --> 02:09:40.710
So actually I think.
02:09:42.620 --> 02:09:43.270
Introduction.
02:09:43.280 --> 02:09:50.550
Story this guy that's doing you fillable type thing I've got can't remember the name of this right next to the right.
02:09:50.560 --> 02:09:52.260
Greater right downtown, right?
02:09:52.270 --> 02:09:52.890
Yeah.
02:09:52.900 --> 02:09:55.200
Yeah, it's right next to shampoo thing like that.
02:09:55.260 --> 02:09:56.040
I've got stories.
02:09:56.250 --> 02:09:59.750
Yes, that called, you know John, really very next to it too.
02:10:00.030 --> 02:10:01.640
I'm just grocery store.
02:10:01.770 --> 02:10:04.500
No, it's not very small shop.
02:10:04.510 --> 02:10:10.680
I think small things like yeah, so shampoos and lotions.
02:10:10.740 --> 02:10:13.010
You bring your own containers yourself. OK.
02:10:13.020 --> 02:10:13.490
Yeah.
02:10:13.880 --> 02:10:15.630
That she does things.
02:10:15.700 --> 02:10:17.270
Yeah, she does some other things too.
02:10:17.500 --> 02:10:19.100
That's very exciting work.
02:10:19.110 --> 02:10:19.910
What's the place?
02:10:19.920 --> 02:10:21.630
Yeah, it's not global refill.
02:10:22.550 --> 02:10:24.510
The same products go refill.
02:10:25.360 --> 02:10:27.480
Well, that's not it, but that's about what it means.
02:10:27.490 --> 02:10:28.750
Yeah, it is.
02:10:28.760 --> 02:10:31.950
I think it's a I think it's a chain of some sort.
02:10:32.000 --> 02:10:37.600
I think she has a franchise, but but it's right beside the grading theater downtown, right on Main Street.
02:10:37.700 --> 02:10:39.900
Just a little sliver of up there.
02:10:39.910 --> 02:10:43.810
This, but it's something something like that, right?
02:10:43.830 --> 02:10:44.760
Their own jug?
02:10:45.250 --> 02:10:51.090
Probably the biggest example would reuse or Mr County, and fixing for exception research.
02:10:51.140 --> 02:10:56.670
It's my wife, said the garage sale this weekend while I go fishing, by the way.
02:10:56.740 --> 02:10:57.920
And that's what I've already said.
02:10:57.930 --> 02:11:01.050
She's called your organs and whatever's left, it's going.
02:11:01.060 --> 02:11:02.390
It's going one way or another.
02:11:02.440 --> 02:11:06.760
It's either going with me to work or it's going it's organization.
02:11:07.000 --> 02:11:07.550
I'll tell you what.
02:11:07.560 --> 02:11:13.210
When we bring a truck to somebody's grade after they've had a sale, their husband just loves us.
02:11:13.220 --> 02:11:15.500
He's like ohh, I'm so happy to see you.
02:11:15.830 --> 02:11:18.960
What man can you come before?
02:11:18.970 --> 02:11:20.440
Yeah, right.
02:11:21.510 --> 02:11:21.670
This.
02:11:21.850 --> 02:11:22.320
Yes, sorry.
02:11:22.330 --> 02:11:23.380
You're saying that like, right?
02:11:23.640 --> 02:11:25.210
Yeah, but nice.
02:11:25.280 --> 02:11:46.230
It's huge with that pricing or thrift store type stuff going on, it's huge a lot because we take everything that's still has some use in it, probably stuff that doesn't because again like it would be recycled metal, metal mean that was like exercise equipment and all kinds of heavy things.
02:11:46.240 --> 02:11:50.170
And bed rails and pots and pans.
02:11:51.530 --> 02:11:52.220
How stirs you?
02:11:52.230 --> 02:11:52.780
Name it.
02:11:52.920 --> 02:11:57.540
It's other reasons I didn't know what one of the reasons I never started in the second time around. Shot.
02:11:57.600 --> 02:11:59.980
Yeah, I've not competing with no way.
02:12:00.030 --> 02:12:04.490
No way should come burn it down, you know.
02:12:04.500 --> 02:12:05.430
But we didn't need to.
02:12:05.520 --> 02:12:06.950
It's already being done today.
02:12:07.180 --> 02:12:12.520
I think since you've got three stores, 4 now with the mall malls open this weekend, thank goodness.
02:12:13.790 --> 02:12:16.420
Ah yeah, four or stores.
02:12:16.430 --> 02:12:25.680
Generosity county and we travel all over the county to pick stuff up from 3 Golden State.
02:12:25.690 --> 02:12:26.210
It's great.
02:12:28.440 --> 02:12:30.970
Do you guys have people that can fix things like the repair?
02:12:31.050 --> 02:12:40.020
Now we have monsters that testers, but it now we have lucky we could get it picked up and hauled in that on 1/4 Store 4.
02:12:40.030 --> 02:12:49.420
But many people do just as the lady up there said about going to the dump and grabbing a chair and bringing it home and reholstering, they're looking for that kind of thing.
02:12:49.670 --> 02:12:59.210
You know, a lot of people come to our stores and you'll have some radial chair or something, and they will take it home and make it into something beautiful and send us a picture.
02:12:59.220 --> 02:13:02.530
So it's really, you know, it's so so that repurposing one thought.
02:13:02.540 --> 02:13:05.240
So it doesn't matter that it's not in great shape.
02:13:05.250 --> 02:13:06.730
Sometimes they'll take it.
02:13:06.780 --> 02:13:07.630
Take it apart.
02:13:08.100 --> 02:13:18.210
Make it their own with the the Frankensteined furniture movement is, you know, like kind of happening, where people actually go there, they buy it for 399 and they sell it for $399.
02:13:18.220 --> 02:13:20.770
You know, I've sold the same couch four times.
02:13:22.490 --> 02:13:25.670
I'm afraid that's no, yeah. More dollars.
02:13:25.930 --> 02:13:27.820
Wow, $10.
02:13:29.110 --> 02:13:29.800
Gonna go up.
02:13:32.790 --> 02:13:35.810
That's, I mean, like you're the better it seems.
02:13:35.850 --> 02:13:39.160
I don't know a different approach for you.
02:13:39.170 --> 02:13:40.070
Every time we sell it.
02:13:40.080 --> 02:13:41.230
Oh, that's the same logic.
02:13:42.510 --> 02:13:42.970
No way.
02:13:43.010 --> 02:13:43.750
It's two of those.
02:13:47.600 --> 02:14:01.850
We have everything, everything from and I was just noticing on this recycling which can now build the channels we recycle building materials, you know windows and doors and pieces of board that are leftover people come in and get that to make wraps up or whatever.
02:14:01.860 --> 02:14:06.050
So we have a we're setting up our building materials section right now down in Monticello.
02:14:06.060 --> 02:14:10.120
It's once the campers and the boats, the trailers get out for the winner, we open it up the building materials.
02:14:12.810 --> 02:14:16.210
Didn't collect much from the university when it empties out, we collect.
02:14:16.280 --> 02:14:18.610
Actually, Bates College is one of our best.
02:14:19.930 --> 02:14:20.640
Will they?
02:14:20.700 --> 02:14:21.440
We are there.
02:14:21.450 --> 02:14:22.480
Go to people.
02:14:22.610 --> 02:14:25.220
Why people like us is because we take it.
02:14:25.230 --> 02:14:26.200
All right.
02:14:26.210 --> 02:14:29.660
We don't say we'll take five or four or three or six.
02:14:29.670 --> 02:14:40.750
We take it all so that that happens, but but the other thing that's happening that I don't think people realize is we are on route one in Monticello.
02:14:42.110 --> 02:14:44.980
If I can't make a living up here, I'm gonna tollgates.
02:14:44.990 --> 02:14:48.280
Everybody's gonna go buy our store down there myself.
02:14:48.410 --> 02:15:00.480
Can't get here from there because out coming through my little toe game like put one up but every single trap that's coming up from wherever to go anywhere in a rustic county to load has to go by us.
02:15:01.100 --> 02:15:13.230
So we have called constantly from brokers and truckers and the relationships that I've built over the last 37 years, I got 4 pallets of tomatoes on and the top two layers are crushed.
02:15:13.240 --> 02:15:13.750
You want them?
02:15:13.760 --> 02:15:13.910
Yes.
02:15:15.110 --> 02:15:21.920
So we take all that food and anything that's not edible and pig farmer comes and gets it.
02:15:22.130 --> 02:15:34.020
So we get all kinds of destroyed, if you will not marketable food anymore because it fell over because somebody swerved and not hit a deer or whatever the case may be.
02:15:34.070 --> 02:15:41.480
So I have truck drivers called me for anything from, you know, 10 cases of tortillas to 40.
02:15:41.910 --> 02:15:42.300
What?
02:15:42.310 --> 02:15:42.560
What?
02:15:42.570 --> 02:15:43.020
What? What?
02:15:43.030 --> 02:15:46.640
I get what time £36,800 of vehicles it took them all.
02:15:48.370 --> 02:15:51.500
That gives the pool hot. Good.
02:15:51.510 --> 02:15:51.960
Yeah.
02:15:52.030 --> 02:15:53.630
Some of them were like gallon buckets.
02:15:53.640 --> 02:15:59.650
There was people running all over Bristol County 5 balance gallon, buckets of Pickles, little ladies dragging them over.
02:15:59.860 --> 02:16:00.130
No.
02:16:01.200 --> 02:16:01.890
Yeah.
02:16:02.400 --> 02:16:03.480
So we take it off.
02:16:03.490 --> 02:16:04.190
So that's a lot.
02:16:04.200 --> 02:16:07.920
You know, we don't even count that as recycling, but that stuff.
02:16:08.140 --> 02:16:09.550
You better. That's reuse.
02:16:09.560 --> 02:16:15.570
Yeah, truck drivers would say I was going to have to dump it and we're on the border.
02:16:15.580 --> 02:16:28.070
So that's another little plus if they can't take it across the border, they bring it to us because sometimes they just can't take something across, don't have the, you know, I had a guy who brought potatoes.
02:16:28.080 --> 02:16:29.810
Prince Edward Island went somewhere.
02:16:30.180 --> 02:16:36.150
She was coming back and couldn't bring his Canadian potatoes back across the border, so I got.
02:16:38.750 --> 02:16:41.160
So where you know location, location, location.
02:16:41.170 --> 02:16:45.150
We're perfect in Monticello and we got local box freezers, coolers and all of that.
02:16:45.160 --> 02:16:46.860
So we can take anything and all of it.
02:16:47.250 --> 02:16:49.900
So I'm just telling the world that everybody's getting anything.
02:16:49.910 --> 02:16:50.920
I'll take it all of it.
02:16:54.290 --> 02:16:55.100
How did you get started?
02:16:56.550 --> 02:17:03.800
Ohh Lord, have mercy because it was it was how I got started was desperation.
02:17:04.850 --> 02:17:06.900
Our mission is to feed the hungry.
02:17:07.010 --> 02:17:09.840
We have a food bank in cardboard, a food bank in Monticello.
02:17:09.850 --> 02:17:14.560
Now we used to have just one in in in here it's a food bank.
02:17:14.690 --> 02:17:18.530
We do not receive federal and state funds to operate our food bank.
02:17:19.470 --> 02:17:27.040
We have to be sustainable or we're not here, so I used to have a when I inherited the project first there was a building materials back.
02:17:27.050 --> 02:17:33.840
They used to tear down buildings like Loring Air Force Base, tearing apart, dragged the stuff back and sell it to before for $0.30.
02:17:33.850 --> 02:17:40.750
After we worked on it for 3 1/2 days and I was like man, it's a lot of work.
02:17:40.760 --> 02:17:50.480
But one day, when an old man came in to see if I had an old, sick or something that we had, he said my wife had a sale this weekend, I got a box of stuff in my trunk.
02:17:50.490 --> 02:17:51.120
You want it?
02:17:51.420 --> 02:17:52.580
I said sure. I'll take it.
02:17:53.040 --> 02:17:55.000
There's a box of knickknacks and doodads.
02:17:55.010 --> 02:17:57.980
Set it on a picnic table, stuck it out there for $0.10 a piece.
02:17:57.990 --> 02:17:59.720
It was gone the next day.
02:17:59.890 --> 02:18:03.400
I said now that's sustainable and I didn't have to pull the nails on them.
02:18:04.800 --> 02:18:17.950
Now that was where that start and that's how and I didn't tell anybody and I didn't ask anybody and all of a sudden down to our central office in Portland, they're like, we're all this money coming from what are you selling up there?
02:18:17.960 --> 02:18:19.300
What are the border?
02:18:20.700 --> 02:18:21.260
You know what?
02:18:21.270 --> 02:18:24.380
They're rejecting in the order colors and sleep with.
02:18:24.820 --> 02:18:28.470
That I didn't know what I was doing.
02:18:28.480 --> 02:18:30.050
I did not know what I was doing.
02:18:30.060 --> 02:18:34.430
I just knew I gotta have some money so I can feed folks, and this is how we do it.
02:18:34.720 --> 02:18:39.500
It is a fact that we get federal money from FEMA, but you can only buy food with it.
02:18:39.610 --> 02:18:40.790
So you can't.
02:18:40.800 --> 02:18:43.460
You can't just get food and said that outside.
02:18:43.470 --> 02:18:44.870
It's gotta have infrastructure.
02:18:44.880 --> 02:18:46.620
We've got wonderful infrastructure.
02:18:46.630 --> 02:18:49.560
Now it's taking a long time to build it and get it, but we've got it.
02:18:49.870 --> 02:18:52.560
The grant writing and hard work, a lot of crying.
02:18:52.570 --> 02:18:53.520
It's got it.
02:18:53.730 --> 02:18:54.540
It anyway.
02:18:54.730 --> 02:18:56.340
That's that's why.
02:18:56.450 --> 02:18:57.720
So I set up people.
02:18:57.790 --> 02:18:59.320
Our mission is to feed people.
02:18:59.450 --> 02:19:01.550
We sell stuff to do that.
02:19:01.950 --> 02:19:03.800
A lot of people say, well, your account, the cheers.
02:19:03.810 --> 02:19:04.760
You've gotta help messing.
02:19:04.770 --> 02:19:05.150
I don't.
02:19:06.360 --> 02:19:14.520
My mission to speed people if I give you that couch, I can't feed people, so I'll say that couch for 10 bucks, and if you bring it back, I'll sell it to you again.
02:19:17.120 --> 02:19:19.170
Are your neighbors probably half the stuff you bought?
02:19:19.180 --> 02:19:20.980
My wife garage sale came from New York.
02:19:21.070 --> 02:19:21.330
No.
02:19:22.150 --> 02:19:27.000
Well, we just picked up a lady, passed away, and Marcel and John went to pick it up.
02:19:27.060 --> 02:19:36.530
And John says, do we have any use for about 150 to 200 ceramics horses, dolls and chills, I said.
02:19:36.540 --> 02:19:38.810
Ohh yeah, we have plenty to buy, Jill says.
02:19:38.980 --> 02:19:42.340
The lady that just passed away bought the bottom.
02:19:42.700 --> 02:19:45.070
She bought them all the time and bought another old lady.
02:19:46.330 --> 02:19:47.560
Do you see possibilities?
02:19:50.930 --> 02:19:51.210
Is there?
02:19:51.970 --> 02:19:52.590
What's that?
02:19:52.660 --> 02:19:54.410
You see possibilities of expansion.
02:19:55.400 --> 02:20:03.160
We have been expanding since the day I breathe my first breath at Catholic Charities started out with just a very few pantries.
02:20:03.720 --> 02:20:07.250
Started out with one little warehouse and now we are.
02:20:08.120 --> 02:20:16.600
Uh, warehouse and Caribou, or warehouse amount to settle that recycles the textiles as well, but I would.
02:20:16.650 --> 02:20:27.000
I really have a passion for Washington County and I every time I meet with or talk with or discuss anything with Washington County, I think you guys just thinking way too team.
02:20:27.900 --> 02:20:29.980
You gotta think a lot bigger than that.
02:20:30.310 --> 02:20:32.240
And that's what happened with me.
02:20:32.250 --> 02:20:37.940
I had big ideas, big visions, and now we're in pretty good shape here in the county.
02:20:38.130 --> 02:20:40.500
It's time to move on to Washington County.
02:20:40.510 --> 02:20:42.610
Maybe they really need help in Washington County.
02:20:42.640 --> 02:20:42.950
Don't know.
02:20:42.960 --> 02:20:44.350
Maybe you're from that area or whatever.
02:20:44.590 --> 02:20:50.770
Yeah, they really need help because there's a lot of need there and that I share anything I can with them.
02:20:50.780 --> 02:20:51.590
I've got connections.
02:20:51.600 --> 02:20:52.910
There, I say, come on up.
02:20:53.220 --> 02:20:55.540
We pick up pineland potatoes every week.
02:20:56.740 --> 02:21:03.870
Those are such a wonderful, wonderful thing for anybody to make a quick meal, you know, it's easy peasy.
02:21:03.920 --> 02:21:04.690
Open the back.
02:21:04.700 --> 02:21:08.570
Squirt it in the microwave and you get you got supper and.
02:21:08.580 --> 02:21:13.190
And older people love that because you don't have to peel it or any of that stuff.
02:21:13.230 --> 02:21:16.570
So Washington County doesn't get a lot of potato products.
02:21:17.490 --> 02:21:21.060
So I went down to Washington County summer before last.
02:21:21.070 --> 02:21:21.660
It was.
02:21:21.890 --> 02:21:28.470
I had a whole bunch of potato, but I had French fries at the time for my Canes had a whole bunch of French fries born.
02:21:28.480 --> 02:21:30.700
I could both handle, but I got two rivers.
02:21:30.710 --> 02:21:35.620
If I have something come in about a surprise, we just fire up wherever it can be, a freezer or a cooler.
02:21:35.630 --> 02:21:38.360
Whatever you need or a dry box, so I always have space.
02:21:38.730 --> 02:21:45.410
So we had all these French fries and then we had a whole bunch of catch.
02:21:47.010 --> 02:21:49.440
So I said we'll bring it to you.
02:21:49.450 --> 02:21:51.950
I got so much, I'll bring it to you and I wanna see your facilities.
02:21:52.780 --> 02:21:53.750
So I went to.
02:21:53.980 --> 02:21:56.860
I went to callous and then to a big flu bed.
02:21:56.870 --> 02:21:57.890
Then I went to my chias.
02:21:58.060 --> 02:22:03.110
When I got to Machias, they were all excited and through there and now I'm loaded.
02:22:03.120 --> 02:22:13.620
Potatoes are are French fries and catch and then they said to me any chance you'd want a pallet of clam chowder office?
02:22:13.630 --> 02:22:15.040
Sure, they said.
02:22:15.270 --> 02:22:16.100
Gonna say blueberry?
02:22:16.110 --> 02:22:23.640
Yeah, I know they said she bought a pallet of clam chowder and I said sure, they said we got an extra pallet of clam chowder.
02:22:23.650 --> 02:22:26.330
People here beginning some box that people are like, you know?
02:22:26.370 --> 02:22:29.180
So I said sure, I'll take that, load it on the truck.
02:22:29.370 --> 02:22:35.180
Then one of the ladies comes running and she says any chance you'd wanna paleta tampons?
02:22:35.550 --> 02:22:37.180
No, I said.
02:22:37.590 --> 02:22:37.960
Sure.
02:22:37.970 --> 02:22:38.900
I'll take those.
02:22:39.080 --> 02:22:40.280
So put them on the truck.
02:22:41.440 --> 02:22:52.790
So one of the women says when they're get done unloading my tracking number shows lisa.com and they should cabbage and French fries, I said, were you talking about because you tablecloths and that's why I'm chowder. Yeah.
02:22:56.960 --> 02:23:00.420
Are those on Catholic charities locations that you're talking about?
02:23:00.430 --> 02:23:02.000
Are those just in Washington County?
02:23:02.010 --> 02:23:02.360
Yeah.
02:23:02.410 --> 02:23:06.030
No, those cousin does not have a presence in Washington County anymore.
02:23:06.040 --> 02:23:08.000
We used to have a homemaker program down there.
02:23:08.010 --> 02:23:14.500
We used to have a jail diversion program down there and much highest callous, but I don't even know if we have any kind of presence there.
02:23:14.510 --> 02:23:19.640
Now, as far as I know, Catholic Charities has 26 different programs and I'm just one little tiny one up here.
02:23:20.130 --> 02:23:24.430
I'm just loud erase for our side.
02:23:27.400 --> 02:23:31.730
But I would love to see what you know, and I've reached out to them and we're working in the talks.
02:23:31.740 --> 02:23:32.560
I just haven't had time.
02:23:32.570 --> 02:23:33.760
I'm in the middle of the big fundraiser.
02:23:33.780 --> 02:23:50.920
We're gonna raise up the Spud Speedway July 2nd pass race anyway, so I've been busy with that right now, but it looks like the data how to start working on and I got John, now who's gonna, who's been on for about a year helping out because I really wanna expand into Washington County.
02:23:51.010 --> 02:23:52.820
And I don't want to step on any toes.
02:23:52.830 --> 02:23:56.070
I wanna partner with them and see what they want, what they need, but I need.
02:23:56.080 --> 02:23:56.830
They need help.
02:23:58.500 --> 02:23:59.910
So do you think there's a way?
02:23:59.920 --> 02:24:02.910
So we got too many potatoes.
02:24:02.920 --> 02:24:06.880
We got maybe we got a bunch of wood that we don't need.
02:24:08.170 --> 02:24:17.260
We do that every day mechanism for like like an Uncle Henry, an Uncle Henry's, but like a like a Facebook marketplace.
02:24:17.350 --> 02:24:21.180
There you go, you go to Facebook marketplace, you got on the full Henrys, you got Craigslist.
02:24:22.330 --> 02:24:25.500
Is that the best way for this stuff to move is is there a?
02:24:25.550 --> 02:24:26.540
Would there be?
02:24:27.100 --> 02:24:30.750
All I know is that central location or is it be nice?
02:24:30.760 --> 02:24:33.560
Probably would be nice course, Good Shepherd food back.
02:24:33.570 --> 02:24:38.830
We also partner with Good Shepherd Food Bank, but we do our own thing outside and excluding them as well.
02:24:39.770 --> 02:24:44.840
But there are trying to is that kind of thing within the food banking world.
02:24:44.950 --> 02:24:50.360
You know, you've got somebody got their ear to the ground all the time.
02:24:50.430 --> 02:24:52.260
Like I said, good shepherds, huge.
02:24:52.270 --> 02:24:52.860
They're big.
02:24:52.870 --> 02:24:59.030
They do most they do all the state, except I've always pretty much covered a boosted county cause I know it.
02:24:59.040 --> 02:25:00.950
They know it and I share with them.
02:25:01.120 --> 02:25:03.870
Like if I get a truckload of broccoli, I'll see you.
02:25:03.880 --> 02:25:04.900
OK, what can we handle?
02:25:04.910 --> 02:25:13.960
We can handle 4 pallets, the other 16 or 18 pallets will just let Good Shepherd know they'll come in, they take it to Good Shepherd and get it out to the state.
02:25:14.320 --> 02:25:16.580
So there's kind of that thing going on.
02:25:16.670 --> 02:25:26.300
I've even worked with New Hampshire, the Food Bank in Manchester, NH is a feeding America site, but it's also Catholic charities New Hampshire.
02:25:26.370 --> 02:25:29.160
So I have friends there, so hook them up with it.
02:25:29.170 --> 02:25:39.920
I just worked a relationship with the Veterans Alliance, our federal federal group, out of DC, A guy that graduated from Frisco High School wanted to help veterans.
02:25:40.730 --> 02:25:42.690
So he hooked me up with another food bank.
02:25:42.900 --> 02:25:46.910
Then doing some things with out of Manchester, CT now.
02:25:48.070 --> 02:25:50.660
But it's a big network.
02:25:50.770 --> 02:25:51.360
It's just.
02:25:51.410 --> 02:25:59.940
No, I don't know the page like that, but we all know each other and that's why he's on board trading with me the next year and a half to two years.
02:25:59.950 --> 02:26:05.270
He's been a lot for a year to help understand all those connections.
02:26:05.280 --> 02:26:07.350
Informal, informal network.
02:26:08.100 --> 02:26:09.670
Why don't you talk some more other, yeah.
02:26:11.050 --> 02:26:12.550
I've seen those by nothing.
02:26:12.620 --> 02:26:18.110
Local pages on Facebook, you know, definitely you definitely have a yeah Coast Facebook marketplace.
02:26:18.350 --> 02:26:24.490
Yeah, but there's that you don't know about lots of space.
02:26:24.730 --> 02:26:26.340
Of stuff friend out there.
02:26:26.930 --> 02:26:28.830
People do know about a friend or anything else.
02:26:29.020 --> 02:26:34.710
Yeah, you're still the thing that says I can sell this ugly couch five times for $10.
02:26:34.720 --> 02:26:36.550
You know offense because that's your business.
02:26:36.560 --> 02:26:38.390
But this is just the dude, you know?
02:26:38.490 --> 02:26:39.690
It's like I just took this off.
02:26:39.700 --> 02:26:42.350
Somebody else bought the side of the road and now I'm gonna put it on Facebook.
02:26:42.360 --> 02:26:43.890
And people do that all the time.
02:26:43.900 --> 02:26:52.030
You see that well, but what about, like, I'm a business and I have this waste stream that I create all the time and maybe somebody could use it.
02:26:52.580 --> 02:26:58.880
So we've talked about so much over the years, right, like the textile straps going to make baby clothes that.
02:26:59.030 --> 02:26:59.190
Yeah.
02:26:59.200 --> 02:27:00.440
How do you do that? Ever?
02:27:00.450 --> 02:27:00.910
Like, right?
02:27:00.920 --> 02:27:02.190
There's gonna be all kinds of stuff.
02:27:02.310 --> 02:27:11.700
So yeah, that's I don't have like is there a way to characterize and quantify like they have this much textiles we produce every month?
02:27:11.710 --> 02:27:20.840
Yeah, you know, and this working they go or this much construction demolished for your old files from a, you know, kitchen project to go to.
02:27:21.150 --> 02:27:21.530
Yeah.
02:27:21.540 --> 02:27:22.730
Wow, the logistics.
02:27:22.740 --> 02:27:25.670
They can't stand to watch the the the.
02:27:27.190 --> 02:27:30.850
Ohh, like the projects they do on TV where they tear down the house.
02:27:30.860 --> 02:27:36.510
Stuff like demo day and they taking these beautiful covers and just taking slashers and we're going with you.
02:27:37.850 --> 02:27:38.150
I'm sorry.
02:27:39.310 --> 02:27:39.880
Translation.
02:27:41.170 --> 02:27:42.040
The terrible part?
02:27:42.050 --> 02:27:43.120
Just throw them a lot of them.
02:27:43.130 --> 02:27:47.990
Do and that's a good idea, but it's working here to count because I think everybody knows where to call.
02:27:49.520 --> 02:27:50.970
Together, it's like, yeah.
02:27:58.630 --> 02:27:59.070
They are.
02:27:59.610 --> 02:28:00.460
Thank you.
02:28:00.550 --> 02:28:01.090
I was going.
02:28:01.100 --> 02:28:02.460
How come I can't help you?
02:28:02.770 --> 02:28:03.880
I'm I'm curious.
02:28:03.890 --> 02:28:09.940
I noticed that Presquile got a 32,400 an odd change grant from the DEP for.
02:28:11.290 --> 02:28:12.880
Food waste diversion.
02:28:13.230 --> 02:28:18.480
Has anyone got any ideas about that or anything to say about it?
02:28:18.490 --> 02:28:19.280
I think it's wonderful.
02:28:20.390 --> 02:28:20.770
Thank you.
02:28:20.620 --> 02:28:21.100
Everything.
02:28:21.410 --> 02:28:23.100
Yeah, sure.
02:28:23.490 --> 02:28:24.320
Let's control.
02:28:24.400 --> 02:28:25.690
That's all, and thank you.
02:28:25.730 --> 02:28:28.210
Very much realistic for the water department.
02:28:28.490 --> 02:28:28.870
Maybe.
02:28:28.880 --> 02:28:30.060
Ohh no perfect.
02:28:30.220 --> 02:28:31.180
This is Margaret Thatcher.
02:28:33.690 --> 02:28:34.870
Like Miss Computer again.
02:28:36.740 --> 02:28:37.280
There he is.
02:28:37.290 --> 02:28:40.370
Even coming back, he wasn't away.
02:28:43.290 --> 02:28:43.920
You're on, but.
02:28:49.760 --> 02:28:50.040
I guess.
02:28:46.020 --> 02:28:50.280
Well, it's just a process I have to raise my hand to engage you guys.
02:28:51.110 --> 02:28:53.700
So Randy's doing a wonderful thing.
02:28:54.340 --> 02:29:05.380
He engaged us several years back and got his first grant to kind of piggyback with what was happening out at lowering and he wants to expand it a little bit more.
02:29:05.800 --> 02:29:09.230
And I've reached out to mark on several occasions.
02:29:09.240 --> 02:29:23.380
I've had a few pipe dreams and he's kind of shut me down, but he is very receptive this time and I think that we're going to actually be able to have a collection site at his transfer station and and maybe quite possibly by the way.
02:29:23.390 --> 02:29:30.860
And Phil and quite possibly in the future, maybe even a little complex site out there, although I haven't really told him that's what I'd like to do until right now.
02:29:30.390 --> 02:29:34.620
That's, you know, it's.
02:29:34.670 --> 02:29:44.700
Grant that he just received his to expand his program and as long as things keep working well with the lowering site and we don't have that jet fuel.
02:29:45.780 --> 02:29:52.860
Redistribution product or whatever that's happening that shuts down lowering's composting, I think things will keep going smoothly.
02:29:56.170 --> 02:29:59.510
Mark, they were talking about having buckets at the farmers market, is that correct?
02:29:59.960 --> 02:30:00.730
Yes, yes.
02:30:00.740 --> 02:30:01.110
So.
02:30:01.120 --> 02:30:17.130
So so is bucket is bucket stay healthy soil and it's a really it's a cool concept and he just wants to start expanding a little more in the volume we could get by doing something with Mark would be excessive.
02:30:17.440 --> 02:30:28.400
And so I think he wants to build up his capacity before we reach out because one of the things that's really important to me is is to take baby steps because slow is smooth and smooth, is fast.
02:30:28.650 --> 02:30:29.900
And if you set people's.
02:30:29.930 --> 02:30:30.750
Expectations.
02:30:30.760 --> 02:30:31.710
And then don't deliver.
02:30:33.010 --> 02:30:34.840
You don't get a chance to set them again.
02:30:35.310 --> 02:30:44.190
People shut down pretty quickly, so my goal is to have him keep growing slowly and steadily, and then when the time is right, expand to a larger size.
02:30:52.160 --> 02:30:53.410
I'm sorry, I didn't understand.
02:30:53.500 --> 02:30:53.850
What?
02:30:54.460 --> 02:30:58.670
He's working from central or six solid waste oil.
02:30:58.810 --> 02:30:59.040
No.
02:31:00.330 --> 02:31:01.840
We work with Brandy too.
02:31:01.850 --> 02:31:13.920
Randy is a partner of ours, so that funding I'm aware of what's I figured out with Randy Martin, but he grows vegetables for us and we bring any of our stuff that needs to be composted to him, right.
02:31:13.970 --> 02:31:30.540
And in fact, if it's, if it's, if it's herbs that we've had sometimes we've had like 18 pallets of of parsley or something and it's all bundled up in those little wires and and they come in the black racks, we recycle.
02:31:30.550 --> 02:31:33.390
Well, we we give him the black racks and everything that we have.
02:31:33.760 --> 02:31:42.570
Once we distributed stuff that's over, those go to Randy, but we also take those little wires off and throw them in a bucket because Randy likes him when he's doing his little stuff.
02:31:42.580 --> 02:31:43.650
So he can bundle it up.
02:31:43.860 --> 02:31:45.590
So those are getting recycled as well.
02:31:45.930 --> 02:31:46.780
We have lost hers.
02:31:46.790 --> 02:31:48.360
Come in and take those off and throw in a buck.
02:31:50.420 --> 02:31:52.930
So it's it's household compostables.
02:31:54.080 --> 02:32:01.600
Yes, from households buckets and he's giving these buckets out at the at the farmers market and the markets every week on the market.
02:32:01.610 --> 02:32:02.550
So they can bring it back.
02:32:02.730 --> 02:32:03.090
Yeah.
02:32:03.430 --> 02:32:05.190
Yeah, they're hoping to expand over time.
02:32:05.290 --> 02:32:05.680
Thank you.
02:32:05.690 --> 02:32:07.780
Bring it back and get us a clean bucket every week.
02:32:08.490 --> 02:32:16.550
Same kind of the garbage garden type there is, but out of the cover on it's an agricultural program, really.
02:32:16.560 --> 02:32:22.660
More salt waste program for soil sample and he's a promised.
02:32:25.220 --> 02:32:28.330
Yes, the people who discovered at their houses.
02:32:30.750 --> 02:32:32.550
Such a pretty common. Yeah.
02:32:32.600 --> 02:32:35.530
You don't see too much food coming and in the trash.
02:32:35.600 --> 02:32:36.310
Sure we do.
02:32:36.780 --> 02:32:37.950
Yeah, I don't expect it.
02:32:38.060 --> 02:32:38.980
Yeah, sure.
02:32:39.420 --> 02:32:42.410
But I think it's common for people like to do.
02:32:42.900 --> 02:32:48.290
People have animals, they have animals or they have gardens and they want to offspring.
02:32:48.300 --> 02:32:51.890
God, just kind of doing people who don't.
02:32:51.900 --> 02:32:52.670
Why do you think they do?
02:32:55.090 --> 02:32:56.270
You have the same excuses.
02:32:56.280 --> 02:33:00.350
You would 2 bins, things all that space don't want to smell for me though.
02:33:01.260 --> 02:33:01.890
Straight talk.
02:33:02.490 --> 02:33:05.890
Yeah, we should see elderly in housing minister level.
02:33:05.900 --> 02:33:12.850
Probably the hardest challenges to people because of they live in housing of some sort, or if they're elderly, they can't log that bucket back and forth.
02:33:12.970 --> 02:33:13.780
They don't have a yard.
02:33:14.890 --> 02:33:23.450
You'll please take it like, I mean, speaking for myself personally, like, but if I work from RA, pick had a garden, I gave him all my food scraps, you know?
02:33:23.500 --> 02:33:25.500
So he took it and I didn't work there anymore.
02:33:25.610 --> 02:33:31.820
And yeah, but Farmer that I could give food scraps to throw him in the trash and then hand it started a curbside composting program.
02:33:31.830 --> 02:33:37.800
I signed up the week that they started and I put a bucket out every Monday morning and now I'm, you know, to burning my food waste.
02:33:37.810 --> 02:33:40.740
So that's the only reason I didn't do it because I just didn't have.
02:33:40.750 --> 02:33:41.960
It wasn't convenient, right?
02:33:41.970 --> 02:33:42.530
Is it that way?
02:33:42.540 --> 02:33:44.090
Everybody doesn't do something.
02:33:44.860 --> 02:33:46.310
It could be it's 25 bucks a month.
02:33:47.250 --> 02:33:48.870
I don't mind paying, right, you know.
02:33:47.340 --> 02:34:06.720
With the the thing up in the county that's really important to note is that there is a huge need for organic matter, but there is unfortunately a significant issue with farmers trusting products that aren't traditional commercially derived.
02:34:07.270 --> 02:34:07.590
Yeah.
02:34:07.250 --> 02:34:10.260
The gap process is a real big issue for us.
02:34:10.860 --> 02:34:19.730
I know in the past Bill when Bill was part of our sledge group, way back when we had a lot of pulpito composting, it worked awesome.
02:34:19.780 --> 02:34:25.730
But getting a farmer to use kalpita compost was, you know, virtually impossible to do.
02:34:26.200 --> 02:34:34.310
And so one of the things that I'm hoping to do besides get more food composting in the county is to raise the educational awareness.
02:34:34.620 --> 02:34:46.540
And I'm I'm working with Mark Hedrick and other folks at agriculture to try and get the farmers to just even do a trial here and there and judge it for themselves as opposed to just saying a flat no.
02:34:49.740 --> 02:35:11.390
But since you brought up education outreach, I know it was something that Rob and I were talking about earlier, like the need for statewide education, whether it's about where to recycle the battery out of our not to throw a battery somewhere, the proper disposal practices or what can go in a compost community compost bin or what can go with any kind of program.
02:35:11.680 --> 02:35:16.870
And we all know that it's a spider web out there, so everything is scaling is a little bit different.
02:35:16.880 --> 02:35:18.630
Every transparency is still different.
02:35:18.720 --> 02:35:35.160
You know the need for a statewide clearing house for information for average consumers and residents on what and how to do what they need to do, where they're at is absolutely like an overwhelming me.
02:35:35.230 --> 02:35:38.880
Now I tried to write a grant about that 2017 but it didn't go anywhere.
02:35:39.690 --> 02:35:45.540
So I'm fully, you know, that they can just look up the the what can I recycle, can I turn this in there?
02:35:45.550 --> 02:35:47.240
What time does the transfer station open?
02:35:47.350 --> 02:35:55.150
You know, I think it's garbage picked up once the PR program, it's things should be, can become more standard. Whatever state.
02:35:55.520 --> 02:35:56.790
Well, it's only for.
02:35:56.800 --> 02:35:59.340
That's only for that I get.
02:35:59.430 --> 02:36:01.800
That's like, really small it.
02:36:01.810 --> 02:36:03.830
It feels like a lot of products, but it's not the tires.
02:36:03.840 --> 02:36:05.920
It's not feel like it's not the pain.
02:36:05.930 --> 02:36:06.810
It's not the agent.
02:36:06.820 --> 02:36:12.920
Probably it's it's not all that other stuff and and so it's not gonna.
02:36:14.140 --> 02:36:14.650
Not the pet.
02:36:14.660 --> 02:36:15.400
She's not gonna.
02:36:15.410 --> 02:36:17.240
It's not gonna help with those things.
02:36:17.250 --> 02:36:26.970
Yeah, using me something similar that way and you might remember back when we had the garbage crew, you think NMDC used to, but we still have the garbage gang. Forcefully.
02:36:27.350 --> 02:36:39.650
But NBC maintained, like an inventory, you could go on where the transfer station nor the main development Commission, and they would cause and they were getting USDA solid waste management grants every year.
02:36:39.660 --> 02:36:41.310
And that was one of the things they had done.
02:36:41.320 --> 02:36:44.870
So if you lived in Ashland, you could look up where do I take my trash?
02:36:44.880 --> 02:36:46.040
Where is the transfer station?
02:36:46.050 --> 02:36:46.880
What are the hours?
02:36:46.890 --> 02:36:49.380
What do they take for those types of things?
02:36:49.390 --> 02:36:51.800
But it was done for just a roosting account.
02:36:52.090 --> 02:36:56.810
And then so many people are moving into the state now, even though we don't really recognize it or notice.
02:36:56.820 --> 02:36:58.130
Again, we're talking on the phone.
02:36:58.140 --> 02:36:58.790
You can tell.
02:36:58.800 --> 02:37:00.330
Ohh yeah, they're like how do I?
02:37:00.340 --> 02:37:01.590
We just moved here.
02:37:01.680 --> 02:37:02.870
Why isn't there?
02:37:03.160 --> 02:37:04.250
Why don't they do this?
02:37:04.260 --> 02:37:05.050
Why isn't that?
02:37:05.060 --> 02:37:06.370
Or where do I take this?
02:37:06.560 --> 02:37:08.010
And it's for everything.
02:37:08.160 --> 02:37:10.250
I mean, you know, but people want.
02:37:10.330 --> 02:37:12.830
I was doing a an event in Borno.
02:37:13.000 --> 02:37:14.730
People had just moved in from Massachusetts.
02:37:14.740 --> 02:37:17.760
They're like, how does recycling work in Oregon?
02:37:18.570 --> 02:37:31.100
Ohh, there is a story, but besides that but but people think naturally they this is they're used to doing it other places in more urban areas than about here.
02:37:31.110 --> 02:37:32.200
They want to know how it works.
02:37:32.600 --> 02:37:33.990
Redemption was the one too.
02:37:34.310 --> 02:37:34.510
Move.
02:37:34.050 --> 02:37:36.050
Was like, what's the redemption thing?
02:37:36.060 --> 02:37:39.530
I don't know where they move from, but they didn't have reception so I didn't explain.
02:37:38.700 --> 02:37:39.970
In that same.
02:37:40.310 --> 02:37:43.920
In that same vein, how about a statewide compost association?
02:37:45.450 --> 02:37:45.670
Yeah.
02:37:48.970 --> 02:37:49.160
What?
02:37:45.610 --> 02:37:55.340
That that's something we sorely need, because that would give a commonplace for information to be stored and dispersed education.
02:37:55.990 --> 02:38:12.520
We're actually one of the things I'm having, my intern Dominique, do as part of her miracorp experience is to put together a community based starting a compost project in your community baguette that'll include all the education necessary to get it started.
02:38:12.910 --> 02:38:16.090
And we're gonna make this available to anybody that wants it.
02:38:16.320 --> 02:38:24.370
And I think that's a way to kind of get the knowledge out there before I reach out to a town and say, hey, do you wanna start a compost operation?
02:38:24.720 --> 02:38:26.380
They actually have access to information.
02:38:31.950 --> 02:38:32.270
Kept.
02:38:32.280 --> 02:38:33.190
Did you have your hand up?
02:38:35.430 --> 02:38:37.060
Yes, thank you.
02:38:37.470 --> 02:38:37.670
Yep.
02:38:37.170 --> 02:38:38.190
Uh, I sent you.
02:38:38.690 --> 02:38:39.330
Can you hear me?
02:38:39.990 --> 02:38:40.130
Yes.
02:38:40.730 --> 02:38:46.620
OK, I sent Jessica my questions to suggestions and at the bottom of the list is Eco main.
02:38:47.190 --> 02:39:08.540
You were talking about educational outreach and and having people have like a a system to find out where they send things and on their website they have virtual tours, interactive quiz and also a database that lists items and it will tell you exactly where you need to take those.
02:39:08.910 --> 02:39:11.650
So they take the guesswork out of it some.
02:39:11.700 --> 02:39:13.070
It's an excellent model.
02:39:13.080 --> 02:39:23.750
I think I have a degree in dynamic website design and I was very impressed with the way that they set up a very user friendly and accessible.
02:39:24.810 --> 02:39:44.290
Umm, you know, tool for people to effectively like you were saying earlier people will do it if they just know where to do it, you know and and somebody else said yeah we should have something in place because if we let people down then they're gonna, you know resent it and they're gonna just kind of opt out of things.
02:39:44.360 --> 02:39:49.570
So I would invite you to check out ecomain.org and take a look at their systems.
02:39:49.580 --> 02:39:53.720
They're quite comprehensive and they're in, I think, either York or Cumberland County.
02:39:53.780 --> 02:39:54.780
Not exactly sure.
02:39:55.060 --> 02:39:55.420
Thank you.
02:39:57.150 --> 02:40:03.900
There are towns that paper that systems too like I think I think the town of York has recycled coach, which they paid for through subscription.
02:40:04.210 --> 02:40:06.300
I have no idea how much it costs, but I know it is.
02:40:06.350 --> 02:40:08.840
It is a service that some towns provide.
02:40:08.850 --> 02:40:13.470
Some states provide in our budget substance.
02:40:13.720 --> 02:40:23.560
Some towns also have just a thing that they send out to residents, you know, on a regular basis or when people to town like a welcome packet.
02:40:23.570 --> 02:40:28.230
And relation has different things that you need to know about how the town runs.
02:40:28.240 --> 02:40:29.680
Including this is what we do.
02:40:29.690 --> 02:40:34.810
There's a lot of that used to be just the magnets that you get on your fridge, or like you said, the brochures.
02:40:34.820 --> 02:40:39.510
But it's towns have cut their budgets of these educational and outreach materials have gone by the wayside.
02:40:39.580 --> 02:40:39.890
Right.
02:40:39.940 --> 02:40:45.190
You know that it's it's unfortunate and the staff to produce this, you know, just like the town newsletter.
02:40:45.200 --> 02:40:47.650
It's it's a victim of pasta password.
02:40:47.700 --> 02:40:59.570
See, I think everyone here is a purpose, but we also do have them waste diversion grant program, which mark is the the lead on Jim and I participate on the committee as well as my partner and it does fund education outreach.
02:40:59.580 --> 02:41:11.510
If you could make a case where how it's gonna help you divert from the URL so the whole gold programs to divert material, but any it's for public or private entities and education, right.
02:41:12.590 --> 02:41:15.660
Speaking of that grant, that was one of the things I was getting I saw here.
02:41:15.670 --> 02:41:16.410
What are your questions?
02:41:16.420 --> 02:41:18.540
Was if you had extra funding, what would you invested in?
02:41:18.710 --> 02:41:19.130
Yes.
02:41:19.950 --> 02:41:26.140
What are the things I look at these grant programs, including the department said it makes sense that, you know, I get the thought process.
02:41:26.150 --> 02:41:32.200
How you're going to expand your program, how you're gonna add material type that that's all well and good.
02:41:32.370 --> 02:41:45.980
But one of the things that we struggle with, we're beginning to struggle with is back in the 80s and 90s, main waste management agency just through money every cycle, everybody was buying baylors and building buildings.
02:41:46.370 --> 02:41:47.150
Guess what?
02:41:47.270 --> 02:41:53.760
All that stuff is worn out and right now, particularly if you look at, I think this is always been the case.
02:41:53.770 --> 02:41:59.940
You look at recycling PR might help a little bit with that, but there there's stuffs wearing out.
02:41:59.950 --> 02:42:01.920
I've got trucks that are worn out.
02:42:02.630 --> 02:42:03.650
There's no.
02:42:03.750 --> 02:42:12.500
Is there money to just maintain what we're doing because it risk is backsliding, is real and you're seeing it is an Auburn or Lewiston?
02:42:12.510 --> 02:42:16.660
Yeah, movements of buildings there, those transfer stations.
02:42:17.560 --> 02:42:22.680
So I mean, I did the hard part for me is I'm not going to demonstrate that I can add material by doing this.
02:42:22.690 --> 02:42:24.450
I'm going to demonstrate your mistake.
02:42:24.990 --> 02:42:25.170
Never.
02:42:25.510 --> 02:42:27.110
So that is a possibility.
02:42:27.890 --> 02:42:28.560
Yeah.
02:42:28.890 --> 02:42:31.220
Good you may see an application alright.
02:42:33.080 --> 02:42:33.290
So.
02:42:31.670 --> 02:42:34.090
So because I mean, that's what we're saying.
02:42:34.270 --> 02:42:36.930
Stuff just right now for this one.
02:42:41.300 --> 02:42:41.430
Yes.
02:42:36.390 --> 02:42:46.080
I I guess I just wanted to throw in that we're in the process of refining the RFP because we've had a few issues with the last round.
02:42:46.090 --> 02:42:56.980
And so we're gonna basically put it to really capital improvements and things to either keep your diversion going strong or to expand it.
02:42:57.330 --> 02:43:02.360
We we've had a lot of people try to put their salaries in and we're just we just gonna cut that right out.
02:43:02.690 --> 02:43:04.340
So we want this money to go towards.
02:43:04.350 --> 02:43:06.100
Something's gonna actually stimulate diversion.
02:43:06.740 --> 02:43:12.970
So look for something end of July, beginning of August will be the next round.
02:43:13.920 --> 02:43:14.600
Click thank you Mark.
02:43:15.270 --> 02:43:15.490
Yeah.
02:43:18.120 --> 02:43:19.320
It doesn't take a quick break.
02:43:20.310 --> 02:43:23.460
Think we're about halfway through our a lot of time.
02:43:24.030 --> 02:43:26.120
I think we got a couple people that you think about.
02:43:26.590 --> 02:43:32.980
I guess I'll take like 5 and 510 minutes of like that 35 minutes, 5 minutes.
02:43:32.990 --> 02:43:33.390
OK.
02:43:33.520 --> 02:43:34.190
You think?
02:43:34.600 --> 02:43:35.550
Yeah, 5 minutes.
02:43:36.480 --> 02:43:37.460
Yeah, alright.
02:43:37.580 --> 02:43:44.520
So without I think it would one line stone.
02:43:44.570 --> 02:43:45.810
Yeah, probably brother.
02:43:46.880 --> 02:43:47.920
Like much quieter.
02:43:47.930 --> 02:43:49.220
But she she.
02:43:50.920 --> 02:43:51.280
I don't know.
02:43:51.290 --> 02:43:52.380
I mean for Father.
02:43:52.540 --> 02:43:54.800
Yeah, like stop. Exactly.
02:43:55.160 --> 02:43:56.270
That's never gonna be there.
02:43:56.340 --> 02:43:58.030
So security baseline, OK, right.
02:43:58.190 --> 02:44:08.500
But then they don't get your back coming out that I actually communicated.
02:44:08.720 --> 02:44:10.400
Yeah, you have a car?
02:44:10.470 --> 02:44:10.640
Yeah.
02:44:11.020 --> 02:44:11.390
Let's see.
02:44:12.280 --> 02:44:12.950
No, they.
02:44:14.730 --> 02:44:15.920
Yeah.
02:44:15.970 --> 02:44:16.580
We're gonna go.
02:44:16.960 --> 02:44:17.300
That's good.
02:44:18.100 --> 02:44:25.080
So those are the just like, believe it, you're there. Yeah.
02:44:25.590 --> 02:44:27.130
So I think it's the best Jackson.
02:44:27.540 --> 02:44:32.180
These are online shoppers and only it's here is.
02:44:33.180 --> 02:44:33.520
Thank you.
02:44:33.710 --> 02:44:34.010
Suck.
02:44:34.310 --> 02:44:35.650
Thank you. Shopping.
02:44:36.310 --> 02:44:36.940
No, no, no.
02:44:36.950 --> 02:44:38.870
You don't have to wait, right?
02:44:40.820 --> 02:44:43.550
Yeah, we have all I think nice.
02:44:43.670 --> 02:44:44.020
Those are.
02:44:44.060 --> 02:44:46.750
Ohh, I'd since you were here sending him that.
02:44:46.760 --> 02:44:47.580
Well, is he gonna?
02:44:47.880 --> 02:44:51.900
So yeah, like shows up.
02:44:51.910 --> 02:44:55.570
Yeah, like, you know, my sister thinks she's back, that's all busted.
02:44:58.680 --> 02:44:59.330
Good morning.
02:44:59.450 --> 02:44:59.930
Thank you.
02:45:00.010 --> 02:45:02.720
I'm yeah, yeah.
02:45:03.030 --> 02:45:04.730
Think about this way back.
02:45:04.740 --> 02:45:05.000
Yeah.
02:45:05.010 --> 02:45:06.450
And that's about how I see you.
02:45:06.520 --> 02:45:06.650
Yeah.
02:45:08.140 --> 02:45:09.570
Yeah, that's yeah, that's right.
02:45:09.750 --> 02:45:10.860
Make comments, right?
02:45:10.910 --> 02:45:16.200
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get you upset. No.
02:45:18.160 --> 02:45:19.050
I was still. Yes.
02:45:19.560 --> 02:45:21.660
No, in the two labels and so.
02:45:21.790 --> 02:45:22.630
Me too, bill.
02:45:24.900 --> 02:45:27.140
Things that we step somewhere, let's just go together.
02:45:27.310 --> 02:45:29.970
Yes, my little building is cool weekend.
02:45:31.040 --> 02:45:32.930
This afternoon it was never.
02:45:33.300 --> 02:45:33.930
It's never.
02:45:34.440 --> 02:45:36.090
I didn't see the magistrate.
02:45:36.340 --> 02:45:36.970
That is what?
02:45:36.980 --> 02:45:37.450
Everything.
02:45:39.750 --> 02:45:41.510
No, it's freezing here. Really.
02:45:42.180 --> 02:45:43.700
Ain't gonna somebody.
02:45:44.270 --> 02:45:45.820
The only thing this church.
02:45:46.280 --> 02:45:52.200
OK, do no I can give you a message after number like 30% please.
02:45:52.500 --> 02:45:52.780
Right.
02:45:53.440 --> 02:45:55.320
If they don't, no, you don't say there's.
02:45:56.910 --> 02:45:57.560
This is something.
02:46:00.330 --> 02:46:00.540
So.
02:46:06.670 --> 02:46:09.310
Is working well subway language.
02:46:09.320 --> 02:46:12.520
It's something educational outreach to sit backwards, yeah.
02:46:13.320 --> 02:46:15.560
Just miss out this.
02:46:15.640 --> 02:46:17.340
She's like, surely I do.
02:46:17.480 --> 02:46:18.900
That's awesome.
02:46:19.060 --> 02:46:19.410
Thank you.
02:46:20.280 --> 02:46:26.620
Yes, the dust on material after the couple falsely second, yeah.
02:46:26.630 --> 02:46:28.540
So maybe something like switching?
02:46:29.640 --> 02:46:30.230
Let's do so.
02:46:30.440 --> 02:46:32.180
It's working this.
02:46:34.230 --> 02:46:34.460
Things.
02:46:34.610 --> 02:46:34.790
Yeah.
02:46:35.430 --> 02:46:35.730
Enjoy.
02:46:36.000 --> 02:46:37.450
Yes, I'm reaching the?
02:46:37.690 --> 02:46:38.260
You're asking.
02:46:38.550 --> 02:46:43.220
It's just like I said, I basically said I'm gonna have a month.
02:46:43.300 --> 02:46:44.580
They have what's called the other.
02:46:45.450 --> 02:46:47.020
Yeah. Well, yeah.
02:46:47.060 --> 02:46:51.240
And then so I'm going to send these batteries and even did OK.
02:46:51.250 --> 02:46:51.470
Good.
02:46:52.220 --> 02:46:53.130
I like this.
02:46:54.060 --> 02:46:55.520
So did you say you go?
02:46:56.650 --> 02:46:56.850
Yeah.
02:46:57.230 --> 02:46:58.750
Yes, but thank you.
02:46:58.800 --> 02:46:59.680
Is that pretty? Well, yeah.
02:47:00.030 --> 02:47:01.770
Sound good to you?
02:47:02.800 --> 02:47:05.700
Maybe. Yeah. Yes.
02:47:05.830 --> 02:47:06.530
No, I don't.
02:47:06.540 --> 02:47:07.990
I you may live. Yeah.
02:47:08.080 --> 02:47:09.280
So I still busy, but OK.
02:47:09.680 --> 02:47:11.260
Are there's, there's been.
02:47:11.460 --> 02:47:13.220
So it looks like extracts some good idea.
02:47:13.430 --> 02:47:14.760
They're not gonna be good right now.
02:47:14.770 --> 02:47:15.210
Yeah.
02:47:15.450 --> 02:47:22.420
You know, just, you know, they would apply, but you know, I know something's little politicians part last few years, it's something.
02:47:22.810 --> 02:47:23.200
Yeah.
02:47:23.340 --> 02:47:25.030
Again there today.
02:47:29.260 --> 02:47:29.510
No.
02:47:29.970 --> 02:47:30.590
Yep, we'll start.
02:47:30.820 --> 02:47:32.410
Wait, let me know.
02:47:32.550 --> 02:47:34.500
It's yeah.
02:47:35.070 --> 02:47:36.200
So I'm still there.
02:47:39.430 --> 02:47:40.200
Well or more.
02:47:43.520 --> 02:47:44.000
Just put it in.
02:47:44.440 --> 02:47:45.590
It's now.
02:47:45.960 --> 02:47:47.090
Yeah, there's yeah.
02:47:47.100 --> 02:47:55.330
So it's yes, because there's always course with the timeline that you have enough actually the second they have been told. Yeah.
02:47:55.340 --> 02:47:56.270
Yeah, let me.
02:47:56.570 --> 02:47:57.530
We had a restaurant.
02:47:59.340 --> 02:48:02.090
No, but you suffer connecting.
02:48:02.500 --> 02:48:02.760
Yeah.
02:48:02.770 --> 02:48:04.620
Yeah, I'll save, right.
02:48:05.330 --> 02:48:05.640
Yeah.
02:48:06.000 --> 02:48:06.920
Promise you. It's great.
02:48:07.260 --> 02:48:10.180
Then it's like in my eyes, he's had butterflies.
02:48:10.550 --> 02:48:11.400
I like that coming.
02:48:12.310 --> 02:48:13.430
Keep us posted angry.
02:48:13.680 --> 02:48:14.390
I know that.
02:48:14.520 --> 02:48:14.680
Yeah.
02:48:15.420 --> 02:48:16.380
Or so I priced.
02:48:16.490 --> 02:48:18.670
This is the translator that.
02:48:22.190 --> 02:48:22.750
They don't have to.
02:48:24.130 --> 02:48:26.130
You know that that's OK with it.
02:48:26.210 --> 02:48:26.650
I went to the.
02:48:33.370 --> 02:48:35.280
And everything picked it up.
02:48:35.330 --> 02:48:36.930
Daughter, where is this something?
02:48:38.520 --> 02:48:39.140
It's better.
02:48:41.870 --> 02:48:44.590
I can't see those are so because thanks.
02:48:45.310 --> 02:48:48.690
I'm talking the black and. Yeah, right.
02:48:48.850 --> 02:48:52.050
Are you like this back?
02:48:52.240 --> 02:48:52.920
I don't.
02:48:53.050 --> 02:48:53.850
So yeah.
02:48:54.190 --> 02:48:55.070
I know each.
02:48:55.800 --> 02:48:56.080
Yeah.
02:48:57.040 --> 02:48:57.410
Yeah.
02:48:58.540 --> 02:49:00.580
And that's yeah.
02:49:01.120 --> 02:49:04.850
Yeah, we don't go straight up here.
02:49:05.700 --> 02:49:06.330
It's right.
02:49:06.440 --> 02:49:08.600
I think there is something I'm looking to see.
02:49:08.610 --> 02:49:08.740
What?
02:49:08.840 --> 02:49:09.480
That's nice.
02:49:09.670 --> 02:49:09.950
Don't.
02:49:09.960 --> 02:49:10.690
Get stuck with you.
02:49:10.760 --> 02:49:11.170
Let's see.
02:49:11.400 --> 02:49:14.430
I can see my case with. Yeah.
02:49:14.440 --> 02:49:17.880
Yeah, just such that's you're living up just like, so yeah.
02:49:18.040 --> 02:49:21.790
It's like, what's your question? Goodnight.
02:49:24.370 --> 02:49:26.000
Just Spanish.
02:49:26.260 --> 02:49:27.220
You'll have these through.
02:49:27.380 --> 02:49:32.530
That's more so no comments.
02:49:32.750 --> 02:49:38.580
Everything was what's I want you to think about and the other days, yeah.
02:49:41.430 --> 02:49:41.750
I just.
02:49:41.870 --> 02:49:44.990
You don't need to guide like personally something like that.
02:49:45.050 --> 02:49:45.590
Are they talking?
02:49:46.060 --> 02:49:46.550
I did say that.
02:49:47.670 --> 02:49:49.750
See, that's what I was talking to.
02:49:49.860 --> 02:49:50.200
Thank you.
02:49:50.270 --> 02:49:51.390
The I'm driving over here.
02:49:51.630 --> 02:49:52.370
Yeah, this.
02:50:00.420 --> 02:50:02.290
Yeah, it's right.
02:50:08.880 --> 02:50:10.520
Then we have the two days we had the fire.
02:50:10.810 --> 02:50:12.350
OK? Yeah.
02:50:14.630 --> 02:50:19.870
Travel ball sized so you can get hired for the hard work, right?
02:50:22.800 --> 02:50:23.890
Yeah, that's impressive.
02:50:24.060 --> 02:50:24.800
I'm scared.
02:50:25.030 --> 02:50:25.530
Typer.
02:50:25.600 --> 02:50:27.970
Yeah, that's alright.
02:50:27.980 --> 02:50:29.300
It's actually making attractive.
02:50:29.540 --> 02:50:30.490
How's your choice?
02:50:30.660 --> 02:50:31.310
The primary.
02:50:31.320 --> 02:50:32.370
That's wonderful.
02:50:32.490 --> 02:50:32.690
Yeah.
02:50:33.130 --> 02:50:34.470
The other day, that's OK.
02:50:35.210 --> 02:50:35.520
No.
02:50:35.530 --> 02:50:36.180
Yeah, he's been.
02:50:36.190 --> 02:50:38.390
I think he's not living there.
02:50:38.490 --> 02:50:39.830
Well, conditions.
02:50:39.970 --> 02:50:42.670
So what do you do on instead of doing things?
02:50:42.990 --> 02:50:48.590
I didn't realize that really lights action.
02:50:49.170 --> 02:50:54.590
This is 1 connection, but yes, like my confirmation spanning, that's yes.
02:50:54.800 --> 02:50:55.170
I just.
02:50:55.180 --> 02:50:55.280
Yeah.
02:50:55.880 --> 02:50:56.120
Like.
02:50:56.190 --> 02:50:58.100
Yeah, that's probably what happened.
02:50:58.250 --> 02:50:59.210
We'll see you there too.
02:50:59.560 --> 02:51:01.550
Just check back that's.
02:51:05.150 --> 02:51:06.730
Yes, it must have been. OK.
02:51:06.920 --> 02:51:08.170
I'll be happy. Everything.
02:51:08.180 --> 02:51:08.560
It's all.
02:51:08.630 --> 02:51:10.060
Yeah, that's good.
02:51:10.610 --> 02:51:11.110
Don't need it now.
02:51:11.370 --> 02:51:12.540
It's it's not that you're old.
02:51:12.720 --> 02:51:17.370
So, so this park is a license you're probably gonna lose.
02:51:17.380 --> 02:51:17.920
Me too.
02:51:18.700 --> 02:51:20.070
I'm gonna say goodbye.
02:51:20.320 --> 02:51:20.760
I gotta.
02:51:20.770 --> 02:51:21.770
I don't wanna talk to you.
02:51:22.400 --> 02:51:22.710
So.
02:51:22.790 --> 02:51:23.300
So we got.
02:51:23.310 --> 02:51:24.220
You're gonna help me?
02:51:24.490 --> 02:51:25.710
So close the door.
02:51:25.920 --> 02:51:28.810
Still there the last you know getting saved.
02:51:30.220 --> 02:51:31.550
Glitter or illegal dumping?
02:51:31.560 --> 02:51:33.710
Is there probably guess it is gonna be here?
02:51:33.800 --> 02:51:34.080
Yeah.
02:51:35.120 --> 02:51:35.870
What do you think?
02:51:35.880 --> 02:51:37.380
I'm just looking up one last question.
02:51:38.430 --> 02:51:39.510
That's the biggest thing.
02:51:39.970 --> 02:51:40.590
That's the thing.
02:51:40.980 --> 02:51:46.860
Like they're building, I've seen all the time that you're like, ohh.
02:51:46.870 --> 02:52:00.300
If we had kind of program know that we could basically you're out help me particular restrained like 2 minutes this can work just so we can basically let me talk outlines.
02:52:01.110 --> 02:52:04.730
Yeah, actually, I don't know if you guys have one.
02:52:04.990 --> 02:52:06.000
Like deconstruction?
02:52:06.050 --> 02:52:06.690
Yeah, something.
02:52:11.060 --> 02:52:12.570
About that's.
02:52:12.580 --> 02:52:16.580
Yeah, that's seeing the yeah, that would be my.
02:52:16.590 --> 02:52:18.120
My meeting is is mattress.
02:52:19.010 --> 02:52:20.400
No, we put on the radar.
02:52:20.490 --> 02:52:23.140
So it's recycled to.
02:52:23.810 --> 02:52:25.070
We get out.
02:52:25.260 --> 02:52:26.170
That was done something new.
02:52:26.250 --> 02:52:33.700
That's funny because it's about that look like stick around my sister's permit sticker off my sister's car with blacked off my truck.
02:52:33.710 --> 02:52:36.730
Truck, coffee and transfers cost you here.
02:52:37.000 --> 02:52:38.390
What it was like that. Thank you.
02:52:38.840 --> 02:52:41.430
What's gonna cost me $21.00 for a boxer?
02:52:41.740 --> 02:52:43.610
I laughed at the guy I thought he was kidding.
02:52:44.160 --> 02:52:48.480
Then I said I bought these facilities and he realized it wasn't from probably, Reese said.
02:52:48.490 --> 02:52:50.250
The part of the truck. Yeah.
02:52:50.320 --> 02:52:50.910
Yes, sister.
02:52:50.920 --> 02:52:51.960
Doesn't great stuff.
02:52:52.880 --> 02:52:53.390
Yeah, too.
02:52:53.990 --> 02:52:57.440
So I probably hours I just so we get a strange passage.
02:52:57.450 --> 02:52:58.930
Read bulky items with our permit.
02:53:00.380 --> 02:53:03.620
What the Gray $1.00 has to get rid of that.
02:53:03.840 --> 02:53:06.310
That's see what's happening.
02:53:08.090 --> 02:53:09.710
One, all of them bringing them to us.
02:53:09.720 --> 02:53:11.590
No charge and criminal.
02:53:11.850 --> 02:53:13.550
That's they don't have the time.
02:53:13.560 --> 02:53:17.720
Eventually, it's not well.
02:53:18.750 --> 02:53:21.250
I mean, they're happy but but can't be faulted.
02:53:21.260 --> 02:53:23.080
They can be happy, but they're more body.
02:53:23.420 --> 02:53:25.780
Our families is they're creating fire.
02:53:25.790 --> 02:53:26.060
Yeah.
02:53:26.300 --> 02:53:26.760
Yeah.
02:53:26.810 --> 02:53:27.550
See tonight.
02:53:27.980 --> 02:53:30.780
That's right, my my formative Prescott.
02:53:30.790 --> 02:53:35.480
Dave, don't swear later since caused by absolutely the last part we had.
02:53:37.180 --> 02:53:37.530
Talk.
02:53:37.540 --> 02:53:38.100
Dirty job.
02:53:40.690 --> 02:53:42.760
Spontaneously, yes.
02:53:42.830 --> 02:53:46.920
If they get dry enough, and if they have any exploit.
02:53:49.160 --> 02:53:51.260
Yeah, I've seen.
02:53:51.270 --> 02:53:52.430
Yeah, I know, right?
02:53:53.470 --> 02:53:57.010
My 4 minutes is the same thing that I believe you said.
02:53:57.020 --> 02:53:58.990
He'd literally laughed all day.
02:53:59.000 --> 02:53:59.630
Long time.
02:53:59.740 --> 02:54:03.020
The other day, paper Fox.
02:54:03.780 --> 02:54:04.700
I did not hear you.
02:54:04.960 --> 02:54:05.570
Just trials.
02:54:05.580 --> 02:54:06.800
He does trials all the time.
02:54:06.810 --> 02:54:24.330
So yeah, I mean, I don't know that it's like it's like right now it's saying I feel like that's a good mattress isn't just in the middle of the then there's really big economic opportunity that because you could have kids out there like in tech school learning how to.
02:54:24.540 --> 02:54:26.790
It's just like just making money.
02:54:26.800 --> 02:54:28.660
Stuff isn't selling this stuff like that.
02:54:28.860 --> 02:54:29.290
This picture?
02:54:29.300 --> 02:54:30.470
That's we.
02:54:30.520 --> 02:54:31.650
So we do not charge.
02:54:31.660 --> 02:54:38.400
We have a we do not charge for cleaning, he's looking at their spot pressure treated off pain and nothing attached to it.
02:54:39.000 --> 02:54:39.320
Charlie.
02:54:39.550 --> 02:54:40.440
But you can carry.
02:54:40.600 --> 02:54:42.810
Free download the breeze.
02:54:43.100 --> 02:54:45.670
OK, whatever they want to don't resolve, right?
02:54:46.340 --> 02:54:50.070
And so we tell that everybody is homeowners, contractors. Formative.
02:54:50.160 --> 02:54:55.200
Yeah, people now always going to hundreds of let's do it.
02:54:55.770 --> 02:55:06.590
Still, watching labor so different some of these, like they're just just looking at this website for South, which they're selling these doors and participation.
02:55:06.750 --> 02:55:08.320
There's a difference, though.
02:55:08.330 --> 02:55:08.790
Doors.
02:55:08.800 --> 02:55:10.040
Yeah, that's the thing.
02:55:10.350 --> 02:55:12.430
My wife watched like 11 seasons.
02:55:12.440 --> 02:55:14.210
She binge watched 11 season.
02:55:14.220 --> 02:55:15.270
So what the hell was?
02:55:16.140 --> 02:55:17.390
That's what they did. I'm just.
02:55:17.400 --> 02:55:19.180
I'm going down South and they got this.
02:55:20.440 --> 02:55:27.100
Yeah, I'll have a brand new songs and so right talking about that is that is it covered in lead paint?
02:55:27.290 --> 02:55:28.400
Yeah, absolutely.
02:55:28.410 --> 02:55:29.140
Are you?
02:55:29.150 --> 02:55:30.980
Remember the name absolutely are Joe.
02:55:30.990 --> 02:55:33.450
When you sleep, black dog somethings right.
02:55:33.460 --> 02:55:35.110
Constant salvage.
02:55:35.120 --> 02:55:37.200
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:55:37.240 --> 02:55:37.880
Nice to see you.
02:55:38.310 --> 02:55:40.920
You first you were already setting our state.
02:55:40.930 --> 02:55:43.000
Sorry say, but yeah, sorry.
02:55:43.010 --> 02:55:43.510
We're leaving.
02:55:43.580 --> 02:55:44.070
What did you say?
02:55:44.130 --> 02:55:45.080
That's giving you big.
02:55:45.610 --> 02:55:47.910
You guys are gonna tell you guys hosting overnight?
02:55:48.290 --> 02:55:48.470
Yeah.
02:55:49.760 --> 02:55:50.000
Great.
02:55:50.080 --> 02:55:52.210
You better hold shiretown motorist shirt.
02:55:52.290 --> 02:55:57.210
You know no reservations, but yeah, once she.
02:55:57.300 --> 02:55:57.860
What are you guys?
02:55:58.010 --> 02:55:59.030
Not graduation.
02:55:59.120 --> 02:55:59.730
What is it?
02:55:59.820 --> 02:56:00.310
Your hand?
02:56:00.320 --> 02:56:01.610
Just Hamptons.
02:56:02.000 --> 02:56:07.020
Both both everything was on the board, so to here what's going on in town building?
02:56:07.030 --> 02:56:08.980
All the hotels are we can get a hotel.
02:56:11.950 --> 02:56:14.700
I don't know have been.
02:56:15.390 --> 02:56:17.320
They knew it was indeed asking for.
02:56:17.330 --> 02:56:20.640
Really, we thought we thought it was gonna be so packed.
02:56:20.650 --> 02:56:21.430
We have to sweeten.
02:56:22.330 --> 02:56:23.350
Ohh, maybe 5.
02:56:23.610 --> 02:56:25.460
Successful good jumping.
02:56:25.470 --> 02:56:27.180
Yemeni are they gonna have loaded fish yet?
02:56:27.250 --> 02:56:27.920
And what's?
02:56:28.670 --> 02:56:31.220
I don't know anything in particular going on this time.
02:56:31.570 --> 02:56:33.040
They might just just.
02:56:33.050 --> 02:56:39.000
It's the cabinet doors that is there in the world to be the next three months.
02:56:39.010 --> 02:56:39.510
When did you?
02:56:39.910 --> 02:56:40.700
When did you try?
02:56:40.710 --> 02:56:41.500
Lately here.
02:56:41.570 --> 02:56:41.750
Yeah.
02:56:42.460 --> 02:56:43.830
Sometime this week.
02:56:43.840 --> 02:56:44.210
Yeah.
02:56:44.280 --> 02:56:44.790
Yeah.
02:56:44.850 --> 02:56:46.030
Wow, rooted county.
02:56:46.040 --> 02:56:49.990
You gotta call him off the head, too for two months, but then they don't know.
02:56:50.000 --> 02:56:51.130
It's like the rest of me.
02:56:51.380 --> 02:56:52.940
Yeah, terrible.
02:56:53.060 --> 02:56:54.850
Tell me here. Good.
02:56:54.860 --> 02:56:55.650
Thanks for coming.
02:56:55.660 --> 02:56:56.030
Take care.
02:56:56.480 --> 02:56:56.980
Do you?
02:56:57.050 --> 02:57:01.080
Like to see Michigan see Mark and see if they think you're all yours.
02:57:01.130 --> 02:57:01.410
Good luck.
02:57:03.550 --> 02:57:03.940
I'm sorry.
02:57:03.950 --> 02:57:04.360
Who are you?
02:57:04.530 --> 02:57:05.780
I'm Trevor and Shaw.
02:57:07.810 --> 02:57:08.740
OK, got it.
02:57:08.750 --> 02:57:09.120
Thank you.
02:57:09.310 --> 02:57:12.550
They can come in oil resistant paper.
02:57:13.630 --> 02:57:15.260
The nice.
02:57:15.340 --> 02:57:16.180
Well done.
02:57:16.250 --> 02:57:16.970
How'd you do that?
02:57:17.170 --> 02:57:18.480
So is the cars large?
02:57:18.970 --> 02:57:20.460
Very good start face.
02:57:22.120 --> 02:57:27.600
It's like the Norwegians heartcatch easy when we work in very thick ionising they were.
02:57:28.030 --> 02:57:30.850
They never used chlorine and the paperwork is still there.
02:57:30.860 --> 02:57:32.080
I wonder if you do test it.
02:57:33.930 --> 02:57:35.290
Are you his blood testing?
02:57:34.600 --> 02:57:35.300
I am still here.
02:57:36.170 --> 02:57:36.750
Hi, mark.
02:57:36.800 --> 02:57:37.140
Hey, mark.
02:57:37.240 --> 02:57:37.450
Hey.
02:57:37.460 --> 02:57:38.700
Hey, what's the question?
02:57:42.110 --> 02:57:46.530
Oil resistant paper that is using starts instead of PFAS.
02:57:48.170 --> 02:57:52.290
I'm looking composting could start should compose sure.
02:57:47.960 --> 02:58:07.320
Once again, it the one one of the issues with the material is that it's never just plant based as always something that holds it together and the issue is we just they're making so many compostable items so quickly.
02:58:08.050 --> 02:58:11.120
That what you have is an industry standard of what is in.
02:58:11.130 --> 02:58:26.230
It may be totally different a day later when someone comes up with a new formulation, so all that I found all the different products that I have tried including plant based, have all fallen below the mark of of a compostability.
02:58:26.650 --> 02:58:36.980
The only thing that I've ever used that has met the standard is bamboo and and that's what I tell folks they want to use bamboo flatware, bamboo plates, bamboo based napkins.
02:58:37.290 --> 02:58:39.780
I I do support that because that does compost.
02:58:41.560 --> 02:58:42.440
You're you're.
02:58:42.450 --> 02:58:51.480
You're things specifically composable for packaging, or are you just talking about tell Matt letterhead or no, it doesn't look great.
02:58:52.380 --> 02:58:52.780
Great.
02:58:54.480 --> 02:58:55.740
Is it just start?
02:58:55.870 --> 02:59:02.490
You're certainly a couple other items that not asking.
02:59:02.680 --> 02:59:05.880
So is it designed for recyclability, compostability or both?
02:59:07.330 --> 02:59:08.440
I would have to look back.
02:59:08.450 --> 02:59:08.660
OK.
02:59:09.720 --> 02:59:10.810
The interesting to know.
02:59:11.180 --> 02:59:13.010
Yeah, but can you send this some?
02:59:14.610 --> 02:59:15.510
That's nervous.
02:59:16.040 --> 02:59:17.770
Yeah, you have it on your website.
02:59:18.520 --> 02:59:19.290
I yeah.
02:59:19.300 --> 02:59:21.510
Something someone and we can look at it.
02:59:21.520 --> 02:59:22.490
The chemistry near me.
02:59:23.350 --> 02:59:23.560
Yeah.
02:59:23.570 --> 02:59:24.140
I mean, I'd be.
02:59:24.150 --> 02:59:25.280
I'd be willing to try it.
02:59:26.710 --> 02:59:27.280
Yes.
02:59:41.140 --> 02:59:41.390
Right.
02:59:25.290 --> 02:59:42.150
I I tested a bunch of stuff years back the the issue is that this is marketed to people that buy groceries and it's only intended to be composted in a commercial operation that routinely receives 160 degrees, sustained for three to six weeks.
02:59:42.400 --> 02:59:53.510
And so that's the problem is people put this in their home compost bin and then they they don't understand why it doesn't break down and then it ends up in their garden and they get very, very frustrated.
02:59:53.590 --> 02:59:53.720
And.
02:59:57.310 --> 02:59:58.220
Yes, indeed.
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Second, get you in contact with my.
03:00:03.450 --> 03:00:04.300
Yeah, that would be great.
03:00:04.880 --> 03:00:05.480
Nice to meet you.
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Bye bye.
03:00:06.390 --> 03:00:07.070
Thank you for coming.
03:00:09.430 --> 03:00:14.500
You have have prize the same door prize, but they're only the people who showed up.
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Yeah, in person.
03:00:16.540 --> 03:00:18.290
So for it we can we can take it from here.
03:00:18.300 --> 03:00:20.840
Megan here thinking.
03:00:20.850 --> 03:00:22.730
Yeah, but he didn't.
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I am.
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They're gonna fix me feeling like I need to, like, be 5:00.
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O'clock, we speculate.
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Yeah.
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Research.
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Ohh recirculates yeah.
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Give me anything. We are.
03:00:33.970 --> 03:00:34.180
Yeah.
03:00:34.190 --> 03:00:37.300
So it's just what y'all like. Yep.
03:00:35.710 --> 03:00:38.650
Hey, they can I ask you guys a work related question.
03:00:40.170 --> 03:00:44.470
Uh, yeah, we've got about seven other attendees listening in.
03:00:45.160 --> 03:00:45.870
That's OK.
03:00:48.390 --> 03:00:48.700
Thank you.
03:00:45.880 --> 03:00:51.940
I just want to know if I can possibly expect your comments on the draft RFP by next week.
03:00:53.480 --> 03:00:53.930
Uh, yeah.
03:00:56.000 --> 03:00:57.120
That would be super awesome.
03:00:57.770 --> 03:00:59.870
Like by Monday or like by Wednesday?
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No, no, no.
03:01:00.210 --> 03:01:00.870
By like Friday.
03:01:01.580 --> 03:01:02.670
Well, even better.
03:01:03.470 --> 03:01:05.550
Yeah, if you could do that, I'd truly appreciate it.
03:01:02.720 --> 03:01:06.690
Yes, but she said it's in my notes.
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And I'll reach out to Mike Parker as well.
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All right.
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All right, mark.
03:01:11.780 --> 03:01:12.480
Yeah, no problem.
03:01:13.370 --> 03:01:14.100
All right, awesome.
03:01:14.110 --> 03:01:14.750
Thank you guys.
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And we saw.
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Hi I'm heading out.
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See you.
03:01:19.500 --> 03:01:19.950
You're.
03:01:19.960 --> 03:01:22.100
You're leaving to you because I'm driving?
03:01:22.200 --> 03:01:23.550
Yeah, I think that's wise.
03:01:24.320 --> 03:01:30.430
So, are there any topics that people who are online I want to touch on that we haven't touched on yet?
03:01:30.640 --> 03:01:38.060
I mean, that's the way we have some, but 250, we've got 7 people in attending online.
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Did you see what I'm gonna just?
03:01:41.880 --> 03:01:44.500
See my get a problem skin.
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Uh, they want at least attorney.
03:01:47.450 --> 03:01:48.980
You've never been short the words.
03:01:49.090 --> 03:01:52.410
I'm not in this, not the least of shared ride me.
03:01:52.420 --> 03:01:55.140
You want 25 by two charge $30.
03:01:57.490 --> 03:01:59.970
But Megan was trying to move us towards.
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Up the hierarchy.
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And we started talking about reuse, should do it.
03:02:10.810 --> 03:02:11.160
I don't know.
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Go home.
03:02:15.140 --> 03:02:20.000
You have some questions here about uh, we filling, I don't know.
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I don't know who's on the line, so I don't know if we're talking to here and what they might want to contribute.
03:02:24.870 --> 03:02:25.860
I know, I know. What?
03:02:25.870 --> 03:02:30.370
I've no idea what they want to talk about, and you guys could chime in.
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That would be great that you speak.
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And no.
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Brian got anything to say?
03:02:48.370 --> 03:02:48.750
Jessica.
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Yeah.
03:02:50.660 --> 03:02:59.140
Well, so why don't we what were the last few items that were on our discussion list that we haven't talked about?
03:03:01.020 --> 03:03:10.780
So yeah, moving up the hierarchy here, we've got so the in the sort of reuse section in addition to the Catholic Charities stuff.
03:03:11.990 --> 03:03:16.110
Umm, we are wondering about.
03:03:16.120 --> 03:03:20.500
We heard about there's a store in Presque Isle that does fill your own.
03:03:21.450 --> 03:03:21.990
Umm.
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Soaps and stuff.
03:03:24.400 --> 03:03:32.760
We're wondering if there are other categories of uh items that my work well for reuse.
03:03:33.840 --> 03:03:43.990
Umm we have, you know, global items that are used frequently with potential to return Halifax, potentially beer bottles.
03:03:45.770 --> 03:04:00.560
Does anyone have any ideas on on items that or is anyone currently participating in any reuse systems that are sort of that refill model of I buy this from you?
03:04:00.570 --> 03:04:01.160
I use it up.
03:04:01.170 --> 03:04:04.180
I bring it back and I buy the same thing and use the same container.
03:04:09.720 --> 03:04:11.800
But he chasers right now.
03:04:12.620 --> 03:04:12.800
Yeah.
03:04:16.240 --> 03:04:17.990
OK, keep going.
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I guess we got, we got one, we get something there, it is, Jackie.
03:04:23.590 --> 03:04:25.260
I think I was still a presenter.
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Question.
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I'm sorry this is cat by the way.
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My pretty ship.
03:04:28.360 --> 03:04:36.870
In case you didn't actually pick me, uh, with the refillable thing, what happened to water dispensers?
03:04:36.950 --> 03:04:39.890
You know that you know the the coin operated ones.
03:04:39.900 --> 03:04:44.890
I mean, when I was attending new mane, everything was sodas, right?
03:04:45.000 --> 03:04:52.330
And you pay a buck and 1/4 for a distante gourmet water, and then you still have the damn bottle to take care of, you know?
03:04:52.340 --> 03:04:55.460
So umm, what's wrong with doing that?
03:04:55.550 --> 03:05:01.820
You know, having those in grocery stores and convenience stores, there's $8.6 million.
03:05:01.990 --> 03:05:10.200
I'm tapped in unused returnable funds that we with the bottle bill that became apparent.
03:05:10.210 --> 03:05:23.430
I had no idea that that many bottles and cans or beverage containers were not being returned, so maybe that money could be reverted into a into a no.
03:05:23.780 --> 03:05:28.050
These efforts, you know, since you're looking for funding, that money is just sitting idle.
03:05:28.480 --> 03:05:42.710
So maybe that was some would be a resource that people could tap into to try to get funding for water dispensers or other types of returnables Dunkin Donuts used to fill your coffee mug for you.
03:05:42.720 --> 03:05:46.850
But they don't do that anymore, you know, they fell a Styrofoam cup.
03:05:46.960 --> 03:05:50.020
Then they poured in your travel mug and then they throw the cup away.
03:05:50.900 --> 03:05:52.770
So something's gotta change.
03:05:52.860 --> 03:05:53.490
We gotta do better.
03:05:54.510 --> 03:05:54.960
Thank you.
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Thank you.
03:05:54.480 --> 03:05:57.420
No. Sure it got. I'll.
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Yeah, I'll actually pipe in about the the whole sheets thing says there's been this legislative session has been a, but the bottle bill program updating has been a big issue.
03:06:13.620 --> 03:06:18.560
And we expect that a bill's gonna come through that will make some major changes.
03:06:29.440 --> 03:06:29.770
Wow.
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Beverage companies.
03:06:18.570 --> 03:06:54.760
And one of the so the whole the the unredeemed, unredeemed nickels, right now they were given I'll say given they were allowed to be kept by the the the beverage companies as a a means to make them comingle uh so that they the system would be easier and there wouldn't be all these many sorts and the only sheets that were being kept with by the one companies that didn't commingle and those did go to the state but with the.
03:06:56.490 --> 03:07:01.620
This new updating the sheets it's gonna make everybody comingle.
03:07:01.630 --> 03:07:11.030
So the the sheets that were the state was getting and going to the general fund are gonna now go back all to the manufacturers so.
03:07:14.240 --> 03:07:14.590
Yeah.
03:07:14.600 --> 03:07:23.220
So unfortunately, that's not really a gonna be a big source of money for that type of thing, but but there is there in the bill, there was some.
03:07:23.380 --> 03:07:26.390
Uh, money being put towards looking into.
03:07:27.700 --> 03:07:36.620
Refillables for the why won't we won't have for a possible refillable system and just kind of interesting.
03:07:36.630 --> 03:07:43.060
I didn't realize that Dunkin Donuts and others were no longer refilling travel cups anymore.
03:07:43.110 --> 03:07:47.580
I was that kind of because of the COVID thing or the that something that just kind of stopped doing.
03:07:49.480 --> 03:07:52.550
No, I've got a comment from Jackie Elliott.
03:07:55.170 --> 03:07:55.440
Yes.
03:07:55.450 --> 03:07:56.050
Can you hear me?
03:07:56.770 --> 03:07:57.040
Yes.
03:07:57.980 --> 03:07:58.790
Thank you.
03:07:58.960 --> 03:08:07.190
UM, I'm just looking down under the opportunities for improvement and I've kind of gotten stuck on the deconstruction piece.
03:08:07.880 --> 03:08:12.500
Wondering where are we overall in the state?
03:08:14.040 --> 03:08:20.710
I know construction and demolition debris is a real challenge in the way stream.
03:08:21.400 --> 03:08:26.710
Umm, so how do we feel where we're at at this point?
03:08:26.720 --> 03:08:38.480
And do we have any really active pieces going to move us in a direction that's a little more sustainable than what we're currently doing?
03:08:39.580 --> 03:08:40.060
Thank you.
03:08:42.350 --> 03:08:48.110
I can answer part of that and interestingly we just ohh it.
03:08:48.780 --> 03:09:09.270
We actually received a a proposal from a company that's rehabbing wood that's recovered from other other structures down in southern Maine and also things like old big old trees that are urban trees that tend to get shocked.
03:09:10.210 --> 03:09:13.120
Umm, so there's some movement to that.
03:09:13.410 --> 03:09:19.890
They felt to actually achieve their award this round, but they'll be back next round.
03:09:20.790 --> 03:09:21.150
Umm.
03:09:21.530 --> 03:09:23.480
Otherwise, I think we're pretty frustrated.
03:09:24.430 --> 03:09:47.800
Uh, my experience is running the a demolition landfill in Mid Coast Maine and I virtually charged nothing for lumber that was clean and we charged 100 bucks a ton for mixed stuff and it all came in mixed it for the people out there doing the deconstruction.
03:09:47.970 --> 03:09:50.280
Well, demolition, they're not deconstructed.
03:09:51.660 --> 03:09:55.380
Time is money and they just and they're passing on the cost.
03:09:56.440 --> 03:10:00.200
So it's it's difficult, it's a difficult left on that one.
03:10:01.860 --> 03:10:06.870
I believe we heard there's a there's a company out of gardener that doesn't barns.
03:10:06.940 --> 03:10:07.180
That's.
03:10:07.190 --> 03:10:08.470
So that's who you're talking about.
03:10:10.330 --> 03:10:15.460
You know, the Catholic Charities woman said that she received some material.
03:10:15.470 --> 03:10:28.340
I know there haven't had for humanity restores do a little bit umm I believe there are a couple of entities in Portland that do a little bit, but it's not a lot.
03:10:28.350 --> 03:10:29.600
It's not much.
03:10:29.810 --> 03:10:44.270
I think there I think there is something that you're seeing start to happen in other parts of the country a little bit and and I think in those cases it tends to be the result of local ordinances that.
03:10:47.870 --> 03:11:05.650
Because of a desire to maintain word historic character or because of a desire to limit, you know, urban emissions of, you know, when they knocked down a building, you're creating a really nasty emission air emissions situation.
03:11:06.330 --> 03:11:14.500
Umm, so there are some ordinances going in that are are requiring that that deconstruction.
03:11:14.910 --> 03:11:19.150
But I think as far as I know that's and that's not in the state of Maine.
03:11:20.130 --> 03:11:24.110
Uh, but I think that's how it's moving in, in other parts of the country.
03:11:25.070 --> 03:11:33.530
And sorry, I'm done and so another thing that I was at a webinar recently and there were two states.
03:11:33.540 --> 03:11:34.330
No quote me on that.
03:11:34.340 --> 03:11:35.930
And he was Oregon and Washington state.
03:11:37.210 --> 03:11:38.980
One was having problems.
03:11:39.330 --> 03:11:53.580
The deconstruction crews did not wanna sell but didn't wanted to stays because they had to get the wood recertified for building the other state passed the law and says that the wood is sound and it's older than a certain age.
03:11:54.110 --> 03:11:55.230
There were no fees.
03:11:55.240 --> 03:12:01.990
There were no recertification fees and their demolition, they said, was gone like gangbusters compared to the adjacent state.
03:12:02.000 --> 03:12:06.880
Hmm, I don't remember which ones which, but the in between Washington, Oregon.
03:12:06.930 --> 03:12:11.400
And they said that made it huge difference if there are legislation going through that.
03:12:11.840 --> 03:12:12.940
Just thought that was interesting.
03:12:12.990 --> 03:12:13.600
Yeah.
03:12:13.790 --> 03:12:14.400
And maybe part.
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Do you guys do it whenever you guys do longer or just paper?
03:12:21.520 --> 03:12:22.770
We used to do longer.
03:12:23.360 --> 03:12:24.840
We just sold our hundred.
03:12:25.550 --> 03:12:29.220
You know, there's this certification at least.
03:12:30.370 --> 03:12:36.490
But and I mean like for the word for buildability of you know what, rob?
03:12:36.500 --> 03:12:37.260
Stop referring to.
03:12:39.070 --> 03:12:39.530
Good morning.
03:12:41.330 --> 03:12:41.950
I'd be interested.
03:12:49.450 --> 03:12:51.300
But yeah, pretty big source of waste prop.
03:12:51.310 --> 03:12:56.300
We think right, Brandy before the sentences, I think it's office.
03:13:02.280 --> 03:13:02.760
What was that?
03:13:04.070 --> 03:13:07.010
Do you remember how much of the waste stream is CD?
03:13:11.550 --> 03:13:12.530
It's it's big.
03:13:08.140 --> 03:13:13.600
I don't remember, but actually well, yeah, hold on.
03:13:13.610 --> 03:13:16.460
I got to actually got the I do have the waste generation report opened up.
03:13:16.470 --> 03:13:16.750
Hold up.
03:13:34.580 --> 03:13:41.020
You have any thoughts on on how to divert that stuff, Jackie or anyone else?
03:13:43.590 --> 03:13:44.450
I will charge it.
03:13:46.550 --> 03:13:48.670
No, not specifically.
03:13:49.660 --> 03:13:49.810
Yeah.
03:13:49.380 --> 03:13:55.490
Umm, I just I realize it's a problem aspect of the waste stream.
03:13:55.500 --> 03:13:58.290
Overall, my concerns.
03:13:59.110 --> 03:13:59.910
Uh.
03:13:59.990 --> 03:14:07.380
Focus a great deal on the toxics that are a potential from that way stream.
03:14:07.860 --> 03:14:11.370
Recognizing that that complicates management of it.
03:14:12.520 --> 03:14:31.920
Umm, generally speaking I have a real problem for with it being ground up and used for alternate daily cover on our landfills because that just is potential to introduce a lot of toxic inputs into whatever leachate is generated.
03:14:33.060 --> 03:14:40.040
I I definitely have a preference to focus on front end solutions around waste.
03:14:41.540 --> 03:14:54.430
Handling as opposed to trying to figure out an end of pipe approach that actually gets a job done in a way that is not going to be problematic overall.
03:14:55.400 --> 03:14:56.750
So I was just I.
03:14:56.840 --> 03:15:06.450
I was just wondering where the state was in their efforts around handling that part of the waste stream.
03:15:07.230 --> 03:15:08.120
So thank you.
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That you're able to speak now?
03:15:14.370 --> 03:15:16.270
I'm just gonna leave you out there as a presenter.
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Sorry.
03:15:19.640 --> 03:15:27.200
Hi, Jackie, Jackie and I are frenemies, so we've had debates for the last couple of weeks now on all this stuff.
03:15:27.210 --> 03:15:30.180
So I'm glad to see her putting her two cents in.
03:15:31.170 --> 03:15:37.420
Just so you know, drywall Sheetrock is an excellent soil amendment.
03:15:37.950 --> 03:15:49.770
If you take the painted side off, if it's unpainted, you can shred it up or crumble it up, or just spread it on your property and and plow it under and it is an excellent, excellent, excellent soil amendment.
03:15:50.060 --> 03:16:00.070
If you have somebody who can strip off the pain inside, all you gotta do if you've ever used drywall before, it rips really easily, especially when you don't want it to.
03:16:00.440 --> 03:16:08.600
And I think that that could be a way of redirecting just that part of the CD out of the way stream.
03:16:08.670 --> 03:16:22.600
I'm not quite sure how you could do it and you know my recommendations for local control could have storage for these materials don't have to necessarily be in a transfer station.
03:16:22.810 --> 03:16:26.620
You know, some lumberyard or a farmer or a builder?
03:16:26.660 --> 03:16:33.140
Have you ever watched Maine Cabin Masters chase saves everything that they demolish a house from?
03:16:33.150 --> 03:16:35.580
Is his crew joke about it?
03:16:35.590 --> 03:16:48.610
You know that he doesn't let anything get thrown away, but there's something to be said for that because they make a lot of money taking stuff out of chases, junk file and putting it in a camp and the the owners think it's quaint.
03:16:48.680 --> 03:17:01.700
So there I think that there is a market for that, but really I think that the focus should be on a public service that that waste should not be for profit or waste management should not be for profit.
03:17:01.810 --> 03:17:11.900
It should be seen as an essential service and I think that you get a lot more traction as which equates to money from the federal and the state government.
03:17:12.170 --> 03:17:17.460
If you can, I guess bring that home rather than privatization.
03:17:18.280 --> 03:17:18.960
So thank you.
03:17:21.260 --> 03:17:22.130
Like you had a comment.
03:17:23.430 --> 03:17:24.340
I did.
03:17:24.350 --> 03:17:27.940
It's regarding the drywall being used as a soil amendment.
03:17:29.470 --> 03:17:29.680
To the.
03:17:28.390 --> 03:17:52.890
We went through this quite quite a bit during my time in the residuals program when I was a sludge guy and we did quite a bit of research and there are enough negatives, including a lot of the older drywall contains arsenic and other contaminants that would build up in the soil that we decided not to allow that as a use that would get a permit under the sludge and residuals utilization unit.
03:17:53.340 --> 03:18:04.660
So I just wanted to throw it out there just just so that people knew that that's not a authorized use of material just because of the potential for contaminations.
03:18:07.270 --> 03:18:07.880
Thanks mark.
03:18:08.860 --> 03:18:10.210
Didn't mean to bust your bubble there.
03:18:10.220 --> 03:18:10.580
I'm sorry.
03:18:11.860 --> 03:18:12.790
No, that's OK.
03:18:12.800 --> 03:18:23.170
I understand there's a lot of materials from old buildings that have arsenic and lead, and you know, and they are a problem then in construction off and on all my life.
03:18:23.180 --> 03:18:25.090
And and I'm remodeling my house.
03:18:25.200 --> 03:18:29.890
So I'm very familiar with how being able to dispose of things.
03:18:30.060 --> 03:18:35.190
The problem is when you bury Sheetrock it creates toxic gases.
03:18:35.720 --> 03:18:37.560
You know, if you could somehow.
03:18:39.260 --> 03:18:46.740
Use it even ground up as say daily cover or some other type of use.
03:18:46.850 --> 03:18:59.800
I understand that it would have to be tested to find out, but we've lost trust with the farmers, with the whole P fest thing because of the sludge that they were told was safe and they were spreading on their properties.
03:18:59.810 --> 03:19:01.380
And now we have this.
03:19:01.810 --> 03:19:20.590
We have this existential problem basically with our farmers, and I recently looked at a survey that was sent out about what people thought we could do to remediate this problem, and a lot of the questions really didn't seem to I don't know, it was a lot of homework, let's put it that way.
03:19:20.600 --> 03:19:24.390
You had to look up what the rules were and then you had to make comments on it.
03:19:24.400 --> 03:19:38.800
And I don't think most people would participate in something like that, but it's a good question to bring up at these meetings because a lot of people like myself, who live in rural areas, solve these problems ourselves, like the the scrap metal thing.
03:19:39.710 --> 03:19:43.200
My neighbor, Wes, he everyone has a scrap metal pile, you know?
03:19:43.290 --> 03:19:45.000
And he does have a source for that.
03:19:45.010 --> 03:19:56.340
So I texted him and asked him where he sends his scrap metal and if and he's a a forest Ranger, so he's territories up here in Springfield and that area.
03:19:56.350 --> 03:20:01.170
So he might know of some source up there and I'd be happy to pass that information on.
03:20:01.980 --> 03:20:02.900
Your cat dog.
03:20:02.910 --> 03:20:07.430
Let me just address also the ground up material being used as a DC.
03:20:16.350 --> 03:20:16.650
Right.
03:20:08.020 --> 03:20:30.130
We also had our experiences with that and storing a pile of it results in the release of hydrogen sulfide gas, and when bath used it as alternative daily cover, it created such a toxic cloud that we had to evacuate the communities around the landfill until I could put compost over the areas that were leaking so that we could act as a biofilter.
03:20:34.480 --> 03:20:34.820
Hmm.
03:20:30.480 --> 03:20:39.080
So the drywall is just a really tough nut to crack, but it it just can't be disposed of unless it's buried very deep in a landfill.
03:20:47.610 --> 03:20:47.880
Umm.
03:20:50.530 --> 03:20:50.690
Yes.
03:20:39.090 --> 03:20:54.570
It cannot be used as alternative daily cover for sure, so it definitely is a tough one and eventually we'll reach some point where it'll be manufactured in such a way that it's recyclable, but until until it's cost effective to do so, it's just not gonna happen.
03:20:55.280 --> 03:20:57.090
Yeah, I like Jackie says.
03:20:57.160 --> 03:21:05.370
Approach it at the front end and we've got legislation now about toxic chemicals being put into products and how we have to, you know, California's been doing this for years.
03:21:05.380 --> 03:21:17.650
Years they get a little anal about it, but you know they are a big state and there's a lot of people that don't follow the rules and and so they have to be pretty hard on people as far as regulations go.
03:21:18.240 --> 03:21:19.570
But yeah, thanks, Mark.
03:21:19.580 --> 03:21:20.350
I appreciate that.
03:21:20.360 --> 03:21:28.480
I just, you know, I just kind of frustrates me as a farmer and I grew up on a farm that we please spread our manure and now the dairy farms are all gone.
03:21:28.490 --> 03:21:32.240
So you don't see huge manure piles like we used to see.
03:21:32.830 --> 03:21:37.540
You know the small loggers now are getting cut off from the mills.
03:21:37.550 --> 03:21:46.480
They're they're loads are sitting drying, so they're losing money even as their wood dries, they can't sell as much to the mills anymore.
03:21:46.680 --> 03:21:54.640
And yet here we have along the roads where the buffer zone between the road and the cutting areas of of woodlots.
03:21:55.500 --> 03:22:09.990
Has to have like a a screen you know and so all along that that buffer zone between the road and the and the actual cutting there are dead, diseased and damaged trees that are waiting to be cleared out.
03:22:10.000 --> 03:22:11.310
They're nothing but a fire hazard.
03:22:11.320 --> 03:22:21.890
They do nothing but spread invasive species, but there should be a way to kind of incentivize people, small loggers, to get that out, you know, and take it to some place where it can be chipped.
03:22:22.230 --> 03:22:27.360
And then that could be used as daily cover, because once the invasive the the.
03:22:34.910 --> 03:22:35.340
There's no.
03:22:28.570 --> 03:22:40.620
ACF was saying that to stop the spread of invasive species, they banned firewood and I talked to Allison connote a year ago and asked her where are the maps that show the invasive species?
03:22:42.620 --> 03:22:43.620
It's exactly.
03:22:40.930 --> 03:22:45.150
And so she said, well, we've got a web guy and he's going to be working on that this year.
03:22:45.160 --> 03:22:54.140
And they just recently came out with these maps that show one that I sent to Robert Burke was the emerald ash borer.
03:22:54.290 --> 03:22:57.710
And if you look at that map, you will see it's like a wake of a boat.
03:22:59.040 --> 03:22:59.690
I can't remember.
03:22:58.920 --> 03:23:02.640
All the landfills are at the center and Juniper Ridge is at the tip.
03:23:07.390 --> 03:23:07.560
Right.
03:23:03.580 --> 03:23:10.690
Recently, Argyle, which doesn't show as as a quarantine zone on the map, has been designated a quarantine zone.
03:23:16.860 --> 03:23:17.950
So I I can't hear you.
03:23:10.880 --> 03:23:20.730
So my neighbor, who has a small wood lot, can sell his wood across the river to someone in Milford, but he can't sell it to somebody in Greenbush, which is just the next town up from Milford.
03:23:21.270 --> 03:23:21.580
Hmm.
03:23:21.240 --> 03:23:32.110
So yeah, so we're looking at landfills, especially imported waste coming into the state and construction and demolition debris coming in from out of state or even from southern Maine or any quarantine area.
03:23:32.240 --> 03:23:35.710
We're looking at that spreading the invasive species.
03:23:39.700 --> 03:23:40.050
It wouldn't.
03:23:40.670 --> 03:23:41.030
That's in.
03:23:36.320 --> 03:23:49.510
So I think again with my Northern Maine recommendations of localization that Southern Maine really has to be, you know, separated from waste management in northern Maine.
03:23:49.220 --> 03:23:49.650
That's right.
03:23:49.520 --> 03:23:52.490
Otherwise, we're gonna end up with the entire state.
03:23:52.790 --> 03:23:53.570
Like what is it?
03:23:53.580 --> 03:24:04.900
The pine beetle doesn't even have a quarantine zone anymore because it's considered everywhere and so pretty soon somebody's going to throw away a deer carcass with chronic wasting disease on a New Jersey landfill.
03:24:05.170 --> 03:24:07.340
We're gonna end up with it and there goes our dear hurts.
03:24:07.830 --> 03:24:08.150
Umm.
03:24:08.030 --> 03:24:11.720
So yeah, so there's a lot, it's a lot of work.
03:24:11.830 --> 03:24:13.860
I understand that you know, and I'm old.
03:24:13.870 --> 03:24:31.970
So you know, I probably won't live to see it, but the whole point is that I think distribution or or spreading the the burden across the state rather than having these major landfills like Juniper Ridge and Crossroads, I would benefit the people of Maine.
03:24:31.980 --> 03:24:39.670
I think you'd get people more involved if they could go to a local station, you know, if they could go back to the dump, you know, and you could even market it like that.
03:24:38.580 --> 03:24:40.710
You give, you give you explore.
03:24:39.680 --> 03:24:42.730
Say let's bring back the dump and have people.
03:24:42.960 --> 03:24:46.890
I mean, it could be like a constant yard sale for people.
03:24:51.220 --> 03:24:51.580
Not really.
03:24:47.040 --> 03:24:53.920
And I'll tell you, if you've ever been behind somebody who sees a yard sale on the road, then your life is in, you know, at risk.
03:24:57.250 --> 03:24:57.450
So the.
03:24:53.960 --> 03:24:58.970
So I think that that it could be a good solution and it could be organic, right?
03:24:58.980 --> 03:25:10.940
And no pun intended that it could develop organically with each town and have competitions have have rewards for good stewardship and penalties for poor stewardship.
03:25:10.990 --> 03:25:14.080
Give people prizes for ideas and innovation.
03:25:14.090 --> 03:25:27.370
I know that's part of the grant process for DEP and such, but I I think it needs to be more on a Community level because you just have people that are disinterested in recycling or even taking things hazardous.
03:25:27.380 --> 03:25:32.350
Waste and digital equipment to the store at $5 a gallon for gas.
03:25:32.440 --> 03:25:39.630
You're just not gonna get the rural people to get involved with that and and quite honestly, we're not the culprits in this.
03:25:39.740 --> 03:25:48.040
We are not the major generators of MSW, so I don't think that I think we need to find local solutions for the local people.
03:25:48.470 --> 03:25:53.890
And then the urban areas, they can just charge more money, you know, and take care of their own problems.
03:25:55.840 --> 03:26:00.000
Sorry if you live in Portland or some other urban area so.
03:26:02.790 --> 03:26:04.110
All for one and one for all.
03:26:06.200 --> 03:26:09.350
Well, you'd be surprised at what people will get on board with.
03:26:09.420 --> 03:26:11.280
You know, we're local.
03:26:11.340 --> 03:26:15.550
My family business was Taylors Bait and I used to deliver bait all over the state.
03:26:15.560 --> 03:26:26.890
So I'm very familiar with a lot of the rural areas up north of me and I live in Argyle, which is an unorganized Township and right at the bottom of a right to the bottom of the north.
03:26:26.900 --> 03:26:33.070
I guess you would say and we would put jars out when someone's house would burn down or someone got sick.
03:26:33.120 --> 03:26:36.280
You put jars out by the cash register and everybody tosses money in there.
03:26:36.670 --> 03:26:53.740
Now this is the old version of crowdfunding and I think that if you market it right, if you get people involved in and let them know that what they do makes a difference just in in their own communities that they will get on board with it.
03:26:55.650 --> 03:26:57.520
It's the mentality of the rurals.
03:26:59.760 --> 03:27:00.430
So what are they?
03:26:57.610 --> 03:27:01.780
So you know, OK, go ahead.
03:27:02.560 --> 03:27:14.110
Sorry, I I just you made me think one of our questions that we haven't gotten to was you know what are the best ways, what are the best, you know, avenues for this education and out?
03:27:16.310 --> 03:27:18.260
Well, we're already doing it here in Alton.
03:27:18.270 --> 03:27:27.500
The Alton Grammar School has a garden, you know, and they take kids outside and they show them the but they're small school.
03:27:27.570 --> 03:27:31.040
Again, I don't know what you would do on a large scale.
03:27:31.190 --> 03:27:53.130
You know, my experience is, is the rural name, but when you grow up with people and you see them in grammar school and you see them in high school and you graduate from college with them, you know you have a relationship, sometimes contentious, but, you know, still like you say, Mark, we're all in this together.
03:27:53.580 --> 03:28:01.470
And I think if you start getting the local people to talk to each other rather than the state, you know the state is great.
03:28:01.480 --> 03:28:06.250
But you know you've got this format where you're all sitting in a room and you all know each other, which is great.
03:28:06.320 --> 03:28:22.280
But we don't know you or some of us know some of you, but still it comes, it hits home when you show up in in instead of staying in Augusta and talking over technology which keep in mind most of the stake in the rural areas, does not yet have broadband.
03:28:23.520 --> 03:28:32.510
So if you go there and you have a town meeting, people will show up and don't have it from 2 to 6 because people are at work, you know?
03:28:32.580 --> 03:28:41.910
Go on a weekend or go in the evenings or make several attempts to do something in the area instead of just a one off.
03:28:42.220 --> 03:28:44.610
I plan and this is fair warning for you guys.
03:28:44.820 --> 03:28:48.930
I plan to attend remotely every one of these five stakeholder meetings.
03:28:48.940 --> 03:28:51.420
The only one I plan to go to in person is or.
03:28:51.430 --> 03:28:57.040
No, because it's my joining Brown and I have a personal connection to Orono.
03:28:57.430 --> 03:29:03.720
So people will chime in, they will contribute.
03:29:03.910 --> 03:29:19.190
When I attended the MRC meeting today, I was stirring the pot a little bit with Karen and a kind of brought up the fact that the MRC tried to put a dump in our goal about nine years ago and we defeated it and she thought kind of up at E and said, well, what's your question?
03:29:20.290 --> 03:30:06.040
I said, well like question is if you exhaust current landfills like Juniper Ridge which is now unstable and catches fire and Crossroads landfill, which recently got an expansion half a mile down the road from its its current landfill which I don't understand why that constitutes the same landfill then are you going to advocate more large scale landfills that large entities like Cassella and the Municipal Review Committee with their coastal resources plant take advantage of because it makes them money if we never take the money out of waste management then we will always be as Jackie says dealing with the problems at the at the end of the pipe.
03:30:06.620 --> 03:30:12.610
You know you have to start with education, but of course, that's not gonna take care of now.
03:30:13.000 --> 03:30:20.850
So now what we need to do is the carrot and the stick, you know, give them the carrot for good behavior and the stick for bad behavior.
03:30:21.200 --> 03:30:26.230
Give them the opportunity to do right, you know, and stop making it a chore.
03:30:26.360 --> 03:30:32.790
You know a problem that everyone has to solve every week when they have to put their waste out by the curbside.
03:30:32.880 --> 03:30:40.340
I'm the firm believer that curbside pickup is a problem, except for bulky waste spring and fall clean up.
03:30:40.430 --> 03:30:51.640
This gives people the opportunity to get rid of their furniture or their old television, or their old whatever, you know, but still the two good to toss is someone was saying this.
03:30:51.650 --> 03:30:52.990
I think it was the pickle lady.
03:30:53.000 --> 03:30:54.320
You know the food bank lady.
03:30:54.330 --> 03:31:01.880
And I'm sorry, I don't remember her name, but she was saying these old ladies were hauling away 5 gallons of Pickles, you know, because she got them.
03:31:01.890 --> 03:31:07.220
So we find uses for things my mother used to take old clothes and braid rugs out of them.
03:31:07.230 --> 03:31:18.870
I still have some, you know, and there you really need to tap into the rural collective knowledge because we have solutions.
03:31:18.880 --> 03:31:22.220
If anyone cares to listen, thank you.
03:31:23.570 --> 03:31:23.970
Thank you.
03:31:28.230 --> 03:31:28.600
Actually.
03:31:31.330 --> 03:31:31.900
He's back.
03:31:32.230 --> 03:31:33.560
Jackie, you can speak.
03:31:33.730 --> 03:31:34.280
I don't.
03:31:34.330 --> 03:31:35.720
You're already a presenter.
03:31:35.640 --> 03:31:36.510
Thank you.
03:31:36.860 --> 03:31:37.670
Thank you.
03:31:38.620 --> 03:31:43.690
Just getting back to the front end a bit here and the conversation.
03:31:44.120 --> 03:31:45.130
Ohh excuse me.
03:31:45.140 --> 03:31:46.090
My phone?
03:31:46.100 --> 03:31:48.300
Of course. Umm.
03:31:50.650 --> 03:32:13.850
I OK recycled the vert all of these terms are important, but I think we have to adjust our thinking a little bit and this is a hard topic to approach because it strikes fear in the heart of people that Oh my gosh, they're trying to send us back to the dark ages.
03:32:15.080 --> 03:32:33.550
But we really do have to make it an important part of the conversation, the need to reduce the amount of waste that we generate in the 1st place.
03:32:33.560 --> 03:32:36.780
Waste is a verb.
03:32:37.030 --> 03:32:38.740
It is a choice we make.
03:32:40.190 --> 03:32:43.030
Waste is not waste until we waste it.
03:32:45.530 --> 03:32:49.760
We we need to adjust the conversation to realign our thinking.
03:32:49.770 --> 03:32:50.100
To what?
03:32:50.110 --> 03:33:20.830
The reality is because we are not going to get to technology and end of pipe remedies around all of this in time to offset the damage that has been done and continues to work occur, we have to face real reality that what we are doing is unsustainable on just about every level.
03:33:21.520 --> 03:33:26.150
Let me just say I've appreciated hearing some of the input by Mr.
03:33:26.160 --> 03:33:26.740
King today.
03:33:27.680 --> 03:33:39.090
Umm, I appreciate his attention to details and I get the impression he's definitely trying to drive things in a in a a good direction.
03:33:39.100 --> 03:33:40.960
So I I'm encouraged by that.
03:33:41.980 --> 03:33:51.060
But you know, just think this magic tech or we can recycle our way out of the mess we're in.
03:33:51.070 --> 03:33:52.650
And let's face it, we're in a mess.
03:33:53.940 --> 03:34:13.940
Umm is generous and I think I just wonder if we started communicating to the public from a basis of honesty about we really need to change what we're doing people because it's literally killing us when you get to the bottom line.
03:34:15.850 --> 03:34:21.620
And perhaps that might be a way of engaging people.
03:34:23.090 --> 03:34:30.880
Umm, I'm not sure I'm buying totally that there's a complete dichotomy with rural and urban needs.
03:34:31.390 --> 03:34:47.840
I do believe yes, there needs to be a certain tailoring of responses to those situations just because of collection issues and that sort of thing and certain economies of scale in order to to implement certain activities.
03:34:47.850 --> 03:34:51.670
But I this is a statewide problem.
03:34:54.080 --> 03:34:56.680
We're all facing it regardless of where we live.
03:34:58.530 --> 03:35:02.370
So I I maybe we need to rethink our conversation a little bit.
03:35:03.510 --> 03:35:11.540
Uh to reflect more of the reality of what it is we're we're actually facing and I'll shut up.
03:35:13.260 --> 03:35:15.000
I do you have any thoughts on?
03:35:16.540 --> 03:35:25.410
On the the the method the the communication method umm.
03:35:25.240 --> 03:35:38.230
Well, I agree with cat in that I think this half there has to be a real generation of education effort on a very local basis.
03:35:38.760 --> 03:35:44.330
So however, that can be organized and implemented, and I do and I do.
03:35:44.440 --> 03:35:45.910
You know what I mean?
03:35:45.920 --> 03:35:58.960
Yes, face to face is a great and and that's important because a lot of people don't have technology but utilize any medium you have with which to connect and communicate in an effective way.
03:35:59.830 --> 03:36:08.740
And as you have done today, allow for it to be a two way exchange.
03:36:08.970 --> 03:36:11.180
You bring the public information.
03:36:11.190 --> 03:36:24.080
The public has an opportunity to give you feedback, ask questions to introduce you to what they conceive problems to be that perhaps, maybe you haven't thought about.
03:36:25.460 --> 03:36:38.830
I just see this as a a very important and a large conversation that has to occur in any way that we can do that would be a good effort.
03:36:43.190 --> 03:36:44.790
Making canned a presenter.
03:36:49.730 --> 03:36:50.670
Then you're a presenter.
03:36:53.640 --> 03:36:54.470
You're also muted.
03:36:56.200 --> 03:36:56.900
Can you hear me now?
03:36:57.690 --> 03:36:58.250
Yes, yes.
03:36:59.780 --> 03:37:00.130
Wow.
03:37:00.140 --> 03:37:08.690
Work better this time than last time, so in the in the light of the the more recent conversation or comments?
03:37:09.600 --> 03:37:28.050
Umm, I've been trying for five years now to to get DEP to address solar panel recycling and even though there's been bills in the legislature that that support that they've all been shot down and that's pretty frustrating.
03:37:28.060 --> 03:37:31.980
That, as far as I know, there is a one bill left in this legislature.
03:37:33.180 --> 03:37:33.650
Uh.
03:37:34.620 --> 03:37:36.340
Submitted by Dave.
03:37:39.330 --> 03:37:39.740
Woodman.
03:37:40.830 --> 03:37:52.460
Uh to study the recycling of solar panels and I I'm frustrated because I I've been trying for four years to get a grant from the.
03:37:55.070 --> 03:38:16.840
And SF to to not only create the process for recycling, but also to to develop a a recycling methodology throughout the state, which would include transporting or picking up used panels, damage panels and and disposing in the of them in a way that they can.
03:38:16.850 --> 03:38:28.980
The materials can be actually recycled, including the 5% of solar panels, which are are problematic, they cadmium Telluride and and lead and and what have you.
03:38:30.120 --> 03:38:36.270
So I'm frustrated because I've been trying to do that and I've just gotten rejection and and after rejection.
03:38:36.280 --> 03:38:47.230
And Brian, you're aware of this, this is not a new conversation for you, but when it when is the department going to get serious about recycling solar panels?
03:38:47.640 --> 03:38:55.300
Cause to get it down to the to the near 0I harmful impact is expensive.
03:38:55.530 --> 03:39:01.070
The University of Arizona has it down to about 99% of the materials can be recovered.
03:39:02.260 --> 03:39:04.040
Uh, but it's expensive to do that.
03:39:05.130 --> 03:39:07.090
It's harmful to just leave.
03:39:08.400 --> 03:39:17.850
Uh damage solar panels and place because they do Leech, and that Leach is is not much different from Keepass and the harm that can do the soils and the people.
03:39:18.900 --> 03:39:20.240
So here we are.
03:39:20.250 --> 03:39:35.930
We're shipping solar panels all over the state for people to install knowing full well that we then 20 to 25 years is a high high chance that they're going to either get broken by hail or or uh, damage through other atmospheric problems.
03:39:36.890 --> 03:39:52.520
So we're just doing the, the, the PFAS problem all over again with with no stop that from happening and I understand I mean I I what I've heard is that because it's so expensive that would discourage people from installing solar.
03:39:53.030 --> 03:40:12.570
And my answer to that has grown a little bit rougher overtime because So what if we either need to collect the money up front so that we can recycle these panels correctly or we need to stop installing them one or the other because we can't just keep putting the chemicals back out there for waiting for something to happen.
03:40:12.620 --> 03:40:12.840
Open.
03:40:13.660 --> 03:40:23.340
So I'm I apologize if I've been rude in anyway, but I'm gonna continue to be rude until the department decides to actually move that from #5 on there.
03:40:24.480 --> 03:40:27.510
Wait list to to #1 on on the To Do List.
03:40:28.340 --> 03:40:30.380
Umm and.
03:40:32.910 --> 03:40:34.580
Not sure how how to accomplish that.
03:40:34.590 --> 03:40:39.500
I've talked to you, Brian, and gotten nowhere and I've talked to others and got nowhere.
03:40:39.550 --> 03:40:54.580
The legislature this year had four bills about it, and and all but one got shot down and I'm hoping that Dave Woodson study actually comes in comes to fruition because it's an important, very important subject in my eyes.
03:40:54.900 --> 03:40:55.270
Thank you.
03:40:56.720 --> 03:40:57.310
Thank you, Ken.
03:41:00.130 --> 03:41:01.040
You can shoot me later.
03:41:04.930 --> 03:41:05.410
No way.
03:41:06.380 --> 03:41:07.410
OK, who?
03:41:06.870 --> 03:41:13.680
Yeah, if you keep hanging away again, just need to pay money on the legislature.
03:41:13.690 --> 03:41:15.030
I think at this point for this.
03:41:19.280 --> 03:41:23.210
Yeah, Jackie, you've got your hand up and you are a participant.
03:41:24.070 --> 03:41:25.100
Thank you.
03:41:25.490 --> 03:41:40.920
Ken, thank you so much for those honest comments and umm, you've spoken to one of my recurring nightmares and I just appreciate the efforts that have gone in or around this issue.
03:41:40.930 --> 03:41:47.310
And I do hope we can get somewhere, but I think you raise a really important piece of all of this.
03:41:49.130 --> 03:41:51.580
About your frustration with the department.
03:41:51.650 --> 03:41:52.210
Understood.
03:41:53.100 --> 03:41:58.980
Umm, I think let's let's start the bottom line here.
03:42:01.360 --> 03:42:03.230
We're talking about values.
03:42:03.240 --> 03:42:22.240
I think overall and you it's gonna be an investment, it's going to cost money to do the right thing on the front end or it's going to cost a lot more money on the back end of things to try to clean up the mess that we make if we, if that's even possible.
03:42:22.310 --> 03:42:24.620
I mean, take the pee fast examples.
03:42:25.130 --> 03:42:37.810
I mean, my goodness, there's not enough money in this world to truly remediate what has to happen, if that, even if we can come up with a technology that would actually get rid of these nasty things.
03:42:38.640 --> 03:42:39.270
Umm.
03:42:40.150 --> 03:42:41.610
So let's do some front end work.
03:42:41.620 --> 03:42:43.400
Let's shut off the tap where we can.
03:42:43.410 --> 03:42:50.480
Most of these P fast products are need needless so and there are alternatives that are a more acceptable.
03:42:50.490 --> 03:42:52.200
So let let's get to work on that.
03:43:18.010 --> 03:43:18.310
Right.
03:42:52.210 --> 03:43:27.280
But I think you just you point up the the real need that we have to make the investment the expense of investment, uh, we need people staff in the department we need to fund the activities that the department is responsible for and must oversee that gets to be involved with the legislature because the department cannot do what it's not legally uh permitted to do.
03:43:28.860 --> 03:43:42.420
So there's just a lot of conversation and cooperation working with one another, listening to one another and figuring out the ways to respond.
03:43:42.430 --> 03:43:43.900
And then I'm going to just.
03:43:44.400 --> 03:43:48.510
Yeah, I'll probably get shot to Kim, but we can stand against the wall together.
03:43:50.350 --> 03:44:02.230
We have to call out the for profit interests that have such an undue influence.
03:44:04.010 --> 03:44:10.060
Around the way waste is handled and regulated.
03:44:12.640 --> 03:44:15.760
We can't avoid that conversation because it's real.
03:44:18.040 --> 03:44:25.500
A for profit entity has a whole different goal in mind when they come to the waste stream and what happens to it.
03:44:26.970 --> 03:44:33.640
And for the most part, they pretty much don't care what gets damaged in the process.
03:44:33.650 --> 03:44:37.180
And as a really old woman, I puzzle over that.
03:44:37.190 --> 03:44:41.140
Where do they think they're gonna get away from the damage they've done?
03:44:41.230 --> 03:44:51.150
There was a day, perhaps we could run away to someplace else, but that day's gone because we are talking ubiquitous problems here.
03:44:51.330 --> 03:45:03.050
There is no place to run away, so we're going to have to step up and say no to the for profit interest.
03:45:04.180 --> 03:45:37.730
That really don't have an interest and truly doing the right thing and we've got to find a way to protect our regulatory agencies from that undue influence and our legislatures from that undue influence, because we're talking about the places we call home and we need to come together and protect those places because, uh, future generations depend on it.
03:45:37.740 --> 03:45:39.090
It it's that simple.
03:45:39.140 --> 03:45:51.360
We're we're not doing the job and I'm kind of wonder where the tipping point is, where we have to admit, we'd have no time left to do the job.
03:46:03.360 --> 03:46:04.550
But give something to add.
03:46:05.280 --> 03:46:20.110
I do and and I truly appreciate the comments from both you regarding solar panels, nobody and and I'll speak for Brian Beneski because nobody wants to recycle these more than anybody but us.
03:46:20.400 --> 03:46:25.810
Our group wrestled twice with a proposal that came to the Waste Diversion grant program.
03:46:26.220 --> 03:46:43.420
It was the most horrible proposal that we ever saw and the gentleman was so arrogant that he just he kept jamming at us but couldn't solve the fundamental problem, which was that these things contain materials that are deemed hazardous.
03:46:43.430 --> 03:46:54.880
Waste the minute you put the word hazardous in front of waste, it becomes so exponentially expensive that recycling doesn't even fit the scape.
03:46:55.410 --> 03:47:13.360
And so we need to find a way to deal with the chemicals in an efficient manner, and then the rest of the particles, the, the, the, the cells themselves, the all the containers and all of that, they are recyclable as long as we can show they're no longer hazardous waste.
03:47:13.770 --> 03:47:26.940
But we would love to do it, and unfortunately, there's another part of the DP called the hazardous waste program that really firmly jumps at this stuff and makes it makes it extremely not.
03:47:26.950 --> 03:47:35.990
They're not making it difficult for us, but because the program is run through a federal situation once it's deemed hazardous, it becomes really hard to just recycle.
03:47:36.670 --> 03:47:39.050
And so that's really kind of what we're wrestling with.
03:47:39.390 --> 03:47:41.100
But we do wanna see it happen one day.
03:47:48.410 --> 03:47:52.110
So can I step in and step outside the the discussion a little bit?
03:47:53.750 --> 03:47:54.090
Course.
03:47:54.250 --> 03:48:11.090
Umm, so so when I presented my proposal to to Brian and and somebody before him and I'm not sure who it was pretty clear that the proposal was an all in one solution in that it dealt with all aspects of it.
03:48:11.100 --> 03:48:20.340
It was based on probably the leading legislation in the in the the United States on recycling, and that's from Washington State.
03:48:20.430 --> 03:48:25.440
Governor Inslee has probably the most eloquent set of solutions.
03:48:25.450 --> 03:48:37.320
And what have you for recovery of of 100% of the materials to get to 100% that there's only 5% of the panel that is hazardous, uh.
03:48:39.780 --> 03:48:40.330
University.
03:48:37.720 --> 03:48:50.300
And for the most part, and the University of Arizona, as I mentioned, is is within 1% in getting all of those chemicals back to a state where they can be reused as if they were fresh out of the ground.
03:48:51.290 --> 03:49:05.200
So the grant that I was I was proposing in in my proposals was was enough money to cover all of that, including building a facility in which to take apart the the glass and the basics.
03:49:05.710 --> 03:49:09.960
And then to sort the remaining 5% into.
03:49:10.710 --> 03:49:20.780
Reusable components and I even took it one step further and in using those components to rebuild solar panels right here in Maine.
03:49:21.920 --> 03:49:24.230
So the money was there.
03:49:24.700 --> 03:49:28.340
The the idea was stolen from Washington state.
03:49:29.550 --> 03:49:31.200
The the only difference?
03:49:31.220 --> 03:49:40.050
Well, and in Washington, states doesn't go into effect until January 31st of 2025 because they needed time to get the manufacturers in line.
03:49:40.680 --> 03:49:56.090
But what they're doing in the meantime, even though they can't recycle them, they're used ones, are being piled up in warehouses until there is a truly affective and complete method for recycling the solar panels and.
03:49:56.100 --> 03:50:03.240
And as crazy as that sounds, that's that's a lot of money because frankly, to store them is cheaper than it is to ship them.
03:50:04.220 --> 03:50:10.770
The last thing I would want to do is solar panels is ship them back to manufacture because the cost of shipping is more than the cost of recycling.
03:50:11.780 --> 03:50:17.990
So so there's an all in one solution out there if you guys want it and I'll be glad to sit down and discuss it.
03:50:18.040 --> 03:50:21.120
I I've expressed that three times, at least in the past.
03:50:21.390 --> 03:50:32.280
Just give me the right person to talk to and I'll talk to him about all the knowledge that's out there, but Washington state and Governor Isley is on the same climate panel as Janet Brunz.
03:50:32.430 --> 03:50:35.870
But yes, as you know, Janet Mills, I'm sorry.
03:50:38.150 --> 03:50:40.160
So is there two of them are talking together?
03:50:40.170 --> 03:50:45.070
He should maybe kick her in the **** and say, look, there's a I've got this program.
03:50:45.080 --> 03:50:49.600
You should adopt it in Maine, but there is a there is a solution out there.
03:50:49.610 --> 03:51:01.890
The trouble is, as as you mentioned, with the hazardous part of it, it's gonna cost $100 to take that panel that that 5% of the panel and convert it back into something that's usable without burning it.
03:51:01.940 --> 03:51:08.030
Now, if you burned it, if you if you know chemistry at all, you know that burning something doesn't get rid of it.
03:51:08.430 --> 03:51:09.680
It just oxidizes it.
03:51:10.510 --> 03:51:24.570
So instead of having a, you know something physically in your hand, it all goes up in the air and you have no control over at that point, but you get to solve for dioxides and the and and all the other poison.
03:51:23.980 --> 03:51:24.790
Not your question.
03:51:24.670 --> 03:51:30.550
Poisonous chemicals go into the air, and that's not a solution. Umm.
03:51:29.770 --> 03:51:32.720
Hey, when I I I can't agree more with you.
03:51:32.730 --> 03:51:38.220
And if you would approached us in that manner, I think the outcome might have been a lot different.
03:51:39.950 --> 03:51:40.370
OK.
03:51:39.520 --> 03:51:42.950
You know, I mean I I I I I appreciate your passion.
03:51:43.300 --> 03:51:44.330
I appreciate it.
03:51:44.340 --> 03:52:00.650
A lot of a lot of things that were in the proposals it, it's just that it's we have to deal with things that are very tangible and we have the most we can give is $40,000 and we can't use that money to leverage other funding.
03:52:01.180 --> 03:52:07.830
We've had a couple in the past that have actually tried to get our grant and then use it to secure funding that they offered as match.
03:52:07.840 --> 03:52:12.650
And so with our little grant program, all we want to do is make a difference.
03:52:12.660 --> 03:52:16.050
And solar panels was exciting to all of us.
03:52:16.790 --> 03:52:17.100
For.
03:52:16.100 --> 03:52:23.660
It's just that we needed to find find a way to work with you and do it in the right way instead of the adversarial route that we ended up following.
03:52:24.640 --> 03:52:25.070
They they.
03:52:27.080 --> 03:52:27.360
Kind of.
03:52:28.490 --> 03:52:28.610
Yes.
03:52:29.000 --> 03:52:29.140
The.
03:52:24.610 --> 03:52:30.860
Since we're going down that we're going down a rabbit hole here and we're missing the point of this meeting.
03:52:31.210 --> 03:52:33.200
So I'm gonna put us.
03:52:37.300 --> 03:52:37.870
I'm gonna.
03:52:38.860 --> 03:52:40.320
I'm gonna beat everybody.
03:52:44.240 --> 03:52:44.390
Like.
03:52:32.190 --> 03:52:45.020
No, I I just wanna say that the I wasn't looking necessarily for the 40,000 from DEP from DEP that the NSF grant, the NSF grant has had was enough to fund the whole program.
03:52:45.350 --> 03:52:49.860
So we didn't need state money that that was just icing on the cake and that's occurring now.
03:52:50.510 --> 03:52:50.680
Right.
03:52:49.870 --> 03:52:53.550
It's around seven of the solar project through NSF is out there right now.
03:52:54.830 --> 03:52:55.360
You know.
03:52:55.430 --> 03:52:56.660
Yeah, I got.
03:52:57.340 --> 03:52:57.590
I got.
03:53:03.310 --> 03:53:03.460
Two.
03:53:04.450 --> 03:53:09.840
Sorry Ken, but we were way off track, but we're off track.
03:53:09.850 --> 03:53:15.730
So, umm cat, you're a presenter, so you can speak.
03:53:16.540 --> 03:53:16.930
Thank you.
03:53:16.940 --> 03:53:20.450
I just didn't wanna buddy in just something back on track.
03:53:20.560 --> 03:53:28.740
I've been advocating for years when I've participated in Rule changes that we need to stop the import of waste from out of state.
03:53:29.910 --> 03:53:44.870
If you know the argument I hear from commercial landfills and read energy and the like is that Mainers do not create enough waste to make their business viable, So what isn't that the point?
03:53:45.790 --> 03:53:48.420
I mean, aren't we supposed to reduce our footprint?
03:53:48.430 --> 03:53:50.150
And now it does not matter.
03:53:50.160 --> 03:54:01.680
You can sit here and talk about all the things that we wanna do to make life better, but the bottom line is, is that companies like Cassella make billions.
03:54:02.040 --> 03:54:07.210
They they topped a billion dollar revenue this year and actually bragged about it.
03:54:07.680 --> 03:54:10.730
And they do it by bringing in out-of-state waste.
03:54:11.220 --> 03:54:25.470
I could send you a history of Juniper Ridge Landfill of how it was a a scheme basically between Georgia Pacific and Cassella, and that is something that now we're having to deal with.
03:54:25.480 --> 03:54:30.770
I think they're contract Casella's contract with Juniper Ridge is another 10 years.
03:54:30.780 --> 03:54:32.250
Jackie could probably correct me on that.
03:54:32.260 --> 03:54:36.750
She might know more than I do, but but they're filling up.
03:54:36.760 --> 03:54:39.170
Juniper Ridge as fast as possible.
03:54:39.370 --> 03:54:57.110
When the bill passed last year into law about not allowing waste to come into Lewiston and then automatically became main waste, and then it was OK to dump it on Juniper Ridge because it was main waste, we had to change the definitions about what is actually originated in Maine.
03:54:57.600 --> 03:55:10.990
And I think there's enough evidence now with the invasive species, and I think the Commerce Clause won't hold water because we've already banned firewood and baitfish from coming into the state because of the potential hazard they cause.
03:55:11.260 --> 03:55:15.010
And yet we know the problems that imported waste comes.
03:55:15.020 --> 03:55:18.180
This is why Massachusetts banned it.
03:55:18.450 --> 03:55:21.520
Landfills, you know, in their state.
03:55:21.650 --> 03:55:25.920
So they pushed it off on the main and we're just catching up with the whole problem.
03:55:26.170 --> 03:55:31.940
But I strongly feel that if we could just stop what it even just a moratorium on it.
03:55:35.920 --> 03:55:36.090
That's.
03:55:31.950 --> 03:55:42.580
To not allow any out-of-state waste to come in and even waste from southern Maine and any quarantine area to come up to Juniper Ridge that would give us a pause and allow us to catch our breath.
03:55:42.670 --> 03:55:48.070
And instead of putting out fires, we could actually make some progress.
03:55:48.580 --> 03:55:50.380
And what would be best practice?
03:55:51.820 --> 03:55:52.160
Thank you.
03:55:54.300 --> 03:55:54.720
Thank you.
03:55:59.030 --> 03:56:00.300
You wanna go in this conversation?
03:56:00.310 --> 03:56:08.340
Then it's on our list I and get such a small group of people now left.
03:56:09.890 --> 03:56:11.820
It's maybe we could just hit repair.
03:56:12.390 --> 03:56:15.690
Not sure you haven't talked about repair?
03:56:18.690 --> 03:56:23.920
Basically wondering, uh, people have good repair options in their area.
03:56:23.930 --> 03:56:28.530
For what items are there items that you'd like to be able to repair, but can't?
03:56:29.620 --> 03:56:33.940
Why can't you and any ideas on how we might promote repair?
03:56:35.290 --> 03:56:37.080
Anyone has thoughts or any of those things?
03:56:43.290 --> 03:56:50.620
Could make disposable batteries like tool batteries and such when they become unchargeable.
03:56:50.630 --> 03:56:54.100
Now what are they, like a A1 off battery?
03:56:54.450 --> 03:56:58.840
And perhaps there could be a program for refurbishment.
03:56:58.850 --> 03:56:59.680
You can do it.
03:56:59.690 --> 03:57:08.000
I mean, there are private entities that do that, but mostly contractors and builders don't have the time to send something out for refurbishment.
03:57:08.070 --> 03:57:14.830
But refurbishing electronics and batteries will, for right now, you were talking about solar panels.
03:57:14.840 --> 03:57:18.180
You know the law of unintended consequences.
03:57:18.190 --> 03:57:32.670
You know, solar panels, free electricity, but now Versant and CMP are penalizing people who have solar panels on their home, and they're accusing solar as being one of the reasons why they're raising rates.
03:57:33.120 --> 03:57:43.150
So I think that along with the right to repair that we don't have to go to the place where we bought our car, we can get it worked on by somebody else and it doesn't void the warranty.
03:57:43.280 --> 03:57:59.270
And if we had a ways of if we mandated that each tool has to be refurbished by the manufacturer, then, or at least be able to send your batteries in and get, I don't know, a coupon, you know, for towards a new battery.
03:57:59.720 --> 03:58:07.170
Instead, people are just throwing them in the trash and they're causing they cause the perk plant to shut down for 30 days last spring.
03:58:07.300 --> 03:58:17.330
You know, because there was a lithium battery that caught on fire and it burned part of their facility and now perk because of competition between MRC and their contentious relationship.
03:58:17.340 --> 03:58:22.100
And I actually just recently learned much about their history between each other.
03:58:23.210 --> 03:58:33.990
They have brought this area to its knees in waste management and now all we have left is Cassella and Juniper Ridge in this area and Juniper Ridge is unstable.
03:58:34.000 --> 03:58:44.190
The DEP says they may never know the reason why the fire started and toxic smoke and ash went as far as it went down and thank God it wasn't blowing this way.
03:58:44.200 --> 03:58:51.230
And I know that's a terrible thing to say, but I didn't even know about the fire because it was like one or two news articles and.
03:58:51.550 --> 03:59:06.160
And so I think that that monopolies like Casella, who come into our state with the intention of only making money, do not serve the public benefit and shouldn't be permitted.
03:59:06.680 --> 03:59:12.420
I think that we should switch to a nonprofit system, much like what Eco main does.
03:59:12.750 --> 03:59:14.100
The MRC right now.
03:59:14.230 --> 03:59:14.860
The meeting.
03:59:14.870 --> 03:59:16.750
I'm listening to them talk about all these.
03:59:17.250 --> 03:59:19.340
You know, they won't admit what they're going to do.
03:59:19.350 --> 03:59:21.560
They want to use advanced recycling takings.
03:59:21.570 --> 03:59:21.950
Jackie.
03:59:22.050 --> 03:59:32.740
I've talked about this that include heat and chemicals and water and and now they were saying they were hooked up to the sewer line for Hamden and I'm thinking.
03:59:32.750 --> 03:59:39.430
So is that where you're discharge is going into the wastewater treatment plant and where does that go?
03:59:39.520 --> 03:59:47.310
Jennifer Ridge, so it seems like money has to be taken out of the equation.
03:59:47.580 --> 03:59:53.610
You know, we have to consider this a public service rather than a for profit enterprise.
03:59:53.800 --> 04:00:06.830
And I think those two things getting rid of imported trash and getting getting commercial commercialization or out of the waste stream, that would be a good elimination to get out of the waste stream actually.
04:00:07.140 --> 04:00:18.620
So I just thought I'd throw that in because I've been advocating for blocking imported trash into the state now for 10 years, and it seems as if somebody along the food chain either is unwilling.
04:00:18.630 --> 04:00:21.910
Maybe Casella contributes to their campaigns.
04:00:21.960 --> 04:00:23.780
Maybe they pay a lot in taxes.
04:00:23.790 --> 04:00:40.580
Maybe we're just now so held hostage by them that we don't have any alternatives and that's why I feel that a distributed waste system spread out and even in urban areas would be more effective than trying to put all of our eggs in one basket.
04:00:42.830 --> 04:00:43.210
Thank you.
04:00:44.010 --> 04:00:44.390
Thank you.
04:00:48.130 --> 04:00:59.620
I seem to be going over specific issues that they aren't necessarily on our agenda at this point, and I'm wondering if this is a good time.
04:01:01.990 --> 04:01:02.680
Bowels.
04:01:05.110 --> 04:01:05.460
Sweetheart.
04:01:02.210 --> 04:01:13.240
Uh, excuse me if I could just respond to the last question that was posed about how do we do something?
04:01:13.850 --> 04:01:22.870
And we were talking about refurbishing and I I have to concur with a lot of what cat has just presented.
04:01:23.950 --> 04:01:49.360
I think we have to acknowledge the fact that, OK, this to make these various pieces work, whatever we identify them as, it's a community effort at the root, but there has to be a certain economies of scale involved in order to make them viable.
04:01:51.430 --> 04:02:16.440
So I would see it as an effort, perhaps well spent if the department were to begin to think in terms of how could the state be sectioned up, and regions where the various pieces of waste management could occur?
04:02:17.810 --> 04:02:20.040
And a sustainable fashion.
04:02:22.010 --> 04:02:30.340
And how do we get the resources to provide the infrastructure for those various pieces to function?
04:02:32.990 --> 04:02:35.640
Umm and yeah, really.
04:02:35.810 --> 04:02:46.710
Look at how can we avoid the big four profit control over what happens and the way it happens?
04:02:47.260 --> 04:02:59.810
Because that is just going to work counter to our efforts, which I think I'm hearing is we want solutions, smart solutions.
04:03:00.880 --> 04:03:02.560
We care about our state.
04:03:03.580 --> 04:03:13.790
We want to preserve what is valuable about our state, starting with public health and the environment ohm.
04:03:15.780 --> 04:03:21.970
So maybe we need to take the problem and break it down on a regional level.
04:03:22.280 --> 04:03:32.320
See is there a way to build those systems within a region to get to where we are sort of saying we want to go.
04:03:37.450 --> 04:03:45.770
And I think the add to that, Jackie, Umm, we, the members of the MRC group, the community members are not.
04:03:45.830 --> 04:03:49.680
I asked this question specifically if Karen and she answered it with one word.
04:03:49.690 --> 04:03:51.660
No, and that was.
04:03:51.710 --> 04:03:53.040
Are you going to allow?
04:03:53.290 --> 04:04:02.940
Since you haven't been servicing these communities for several years, are you going to allow communities to break their contract with you and go with another provider?
04:04:03.350 --> 04:04:04.380
And she said no.
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So I think that these locked in contracts with these big outfits is detrimental to getting anything.
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Uh, yeah.
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To progress in any way because they're looking again like we said at at the money and the money aspect.
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So I think there should be something that says in the rules that if a if a community is not being well served.
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In other words, if the waste management services that they contracted with are not performing up to what they said they were going to do that.
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They could be allowed to be released from that contract and go with another service it it seems like it's it takes everyone here that I've listened to today seems to have a specific specialty in their area like Mark is in, in, in composting and and recycling and Mark Draper is in Aroostook County waste and everyone's it does take that it takes kind of like a specialization in order to understand these issues in depth unless you're like Jackie and me, you know who have time to kill and we stick our noses and things probably where we shouldn't, but still it does take community activists that will bring these things to the front.
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And it behooves the Department of Environmental Protection to to listen to these people and get more people on committees that actually live in the areas that your legislating on.
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I don't see too many farmers on these committees.
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I don't see too many loggers on these exception of Troy Jackson, and he does advocate for loggers.
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Perhaps a a panel of volunteer panel?
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Or maybe a stipend to cover costs, you know expenses or something like that.
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But panels in each region like I think this is an idea that I've I've batted around with Jackie and the don't waste me people is that we need to get money out of the waste, but we also need to have collectives or cooperatives between communities because one town isn't going to have enough waste to make it profitable for them to have their own waste management service just for exclusively for that town.
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But if you create cooperatives and you allow them to be dynamic as been has been said in this meeting today, that everything evolves.
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So say all of a sudden press Kyle or Ashland, you know, starts getting a housing boom or an influx of people.
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So there needs all of a sudden escalate.
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They should be allowed to break off or or fragment into different cooperatives and I think the contracts between.
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I don't understand why the member communities of the MRC are still with them, you know, and the only answer I can think of is that they're locked into contracts if they can't get out of and they can't afford the legal help to break them.
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So maybe that's something that should change in the waste management rules as that if if a service is not performing for whatever reason, maintenance shut down or bypass, which is one of my favorite reasons, uh, that the member Community of the coop or a member of the service should be allowed without penalty to leave.
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After all, they are consumers.
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I can't say I disagree.
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I mean, you know, I I want that from any of my personal vendors.
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If you don't perform for me, I'd wanna be able to leave.
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Umm, but that's outside of our billing right here.
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Ohh too bad.
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Umm now and the other thing that I'd like to point out and and I'm thinking I'm listening to you guys talk about one end of the the solid waste issue and honestly, I I think about the other end, what we gotta get our manufacturers to properly manufacture things so they can be properly disassembled and recovered recycling we should be using materials that can be reused and so forth.
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You're not going to get that at the bottom of the waste stream.
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You're gonna get that before it becomes waste, and that comes down to our choices when we buy stuff, we need to buy smarter.
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Umm.
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And to do that and make a difference, we need to create an ethic, statewide and environmental ethic.
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I don't awareness and that's an educational program I'd really like to discuss because if if everybody was aware of the impacts of their own personal purchases and so forth, umm, we might be able to make a difference.
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Umm, we we can wag that dog.
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Well, California again ban certain products from being bought online for their state lawn mowers.
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Yeah.
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Weed Whackers gas operated, they're going almost completely electrical now.
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I am not a big advocate of electric cars, OK?
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Because you're talking about a windmill.
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Paddles or blades and and solar panels.
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I think the next big thing problem is going to be that the cars that run on batteries are gonna start seeing that they can't recharge their batteries.
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You know, it's not a big deal up here because most people don't trust electric cars when you're temperature gets down.
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And I believe that the charging rate drastically slows down when the weather gets cold.
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So I don't think you're gonna see a revolution of electric cars up here in the north, but California, when you buy something at Home Depot, it's gonna say right on the thing that where you purchase it says this cannot be delivered to your state.
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And that is also part of me.
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I've seen it for Maine because I tried to buy some fertilizer that I used to use in California, which is organic by the way, and they wouldn't ship it to me.
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So I couldn't get it.
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I actually had to go to a a a manufacturer or not a manufacturer, but a local distributor in California which shipped it to me.
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So that is something that could coincide with the product, the manufacturer product thing where it over packaging or not being able to be repaired or not or having a battery that makes the tool obsolete or when they upgrade something like an iPhone or something, all of a sudden the programs or things that you've purchased for technology are not adaptable because the cables don't match up.
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You know, these are things that manufacturers do that are proprietary and I think there should be a penalty for proprietary items if we're going to go to the trouble of penalizing getting manufacturers for excessive packaging that perhaps we could add the caveat of having them be reusable to follow our hierarchy.
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You know, can this be repaired?
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OK, if it isn't, then here's a surcharge and that surcharge goes into a fund which helps process that.
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When it becomes part of the waste stream, so just like we did with the bottles I left, I went to California in the 70s when I left, the roads were littered with cans and bottles, and when I came back for visits and stuff, I noticed that all of a sudden the roadways are clean.
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There's always somebody out there picking up the bottles and cans for that nickel.
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And so I think that the reverse could be true.
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I and and what happens to the?
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Do I get this question all the time?
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Maybe you guys can answer it.
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What happens to the deposit we put on our refrigerators and appliances that we pay at the store and then when we go to to dump them or get rid of them, we get charged another fee?
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What happened to the fee that we got charged in the beginning?
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Does anyone know the answer to that question?
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OK.
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Oh really?
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Or I I'm aware of a tire fee that a lot of people upset about because it goes to clean up old tire dumps and doesn't cover your tire when you then bring it back, right?
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The you know?
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Probably.
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Perhaps some of those fees are mishandled in a way I I ran a solid waste transfer stations for 28 years and I used to get beat daily about that.
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What do you mean?
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I paid for this when I bought it.
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Well, we don't see a sense of that.
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It doesn't make it down to the municipal level.
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It might help run a an agency, or it might deal specifically with, for example, the tires that were huge tire dumps, which were horrible hazards that many have been cleaned up.
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I don't know if all of them cleaned up yet, so that's what that sort of thing has been going towards us.
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Umm, that's that's what legislation curator was.
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But yes, this legislation.
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I'm I'm wondering if I could just jump in here for a minute.
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I this conversation has taken an evolution.
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I'm looking at your reduce reuse recycle triangle here, and I'd like to add at the top before reduce.
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Rethink because I think that's exactly what's occurring here, and the idea that how do we get people to participate?
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And I'm and a more beneficial way, and I'm going to bring up the topic of justice around that because we have been able to ship off the undesirable parts of what we do as a society to places less able to protect themselves against harmful impacts.
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So we've we've kind of created a monster that some people think don't have to think about what they do and other people are living.
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The reality of those choices being neighbor to a landfill or live under the smokestack of an incinerator.
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And you'll come to understand that a little better.
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So I think we have to again we're getting we have to get back to what is honest.
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They were going to be benefits and they are going to be burdens around any choices we make relative to how we manage our waste.
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But we need a goal of making those benefits and burdens a little more equalized across the population, because that would perhaps be some incentive to start doing things in a better way.
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Ohm because not everybody wants to live next to a landfill or under a incinerator smokestack.
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So you might want to think about what you're doing.
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Umm, in terms of what you create that that seems to be the way we wanna handle.
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Umm so.
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Education is going to involve helping people to understand that their choices have an impact, and even though they might not be living up close and personal to those impacts, those impacts are happening.
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Maine is taking some really important steps with the extended producer responsibility effort.
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Even our bottle Bill efforts has its good points and until we start shifting the all the costs that get accrued around this whole topic off the consumer and taxpayer ended things and get it back on the side of the equation where all these things are produced in the beginning and making the producers of these things more accountable for the cost of what they produce other than just what they get, the charge.
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Uh, again, rethink the paradigm has to shift substantially to get to a better place, and we don't do ourselves any favors by pretending that doesn't have to happen.
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Umm.
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Let's let's face it, we're facing a real serious disease here.
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I slapping a few band AIDS and other bandages on it is not going to get the job done and I think there are a lot of people who would like to do the right thing.
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We just need to commit our resources and efforts and just keep having these hard conversations, umm, and figuring out what our next steps are.
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Deputy.
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I think I think you've nicely wrapped up wrapped up Jackie.
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You know, the idea is that well said.
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Marking has something to add?
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Did I mean you, mark, are you muted?
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I think you made it.
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I think they're muted.
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You.
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Sorry, man, the.
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I I have a question for Jack.
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Jackie.
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Hey, Jackie.
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I I love all that you've been saying and I just wanna know two things.
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What community are you from?
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Well.
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Well, I currently reside in Waterboro where I've been retired since 2010 and that OK, this is Full disclosure, I'm a native granite stater for 30 years I have been what I refer to myself as an environmental, health and justice advocate.
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Those efforts have focused on waste handling policy back in New Hampshire, I lived under the smokestack of a waste to energy incinerator on my Western border, I had the leaking ash landfill for that incinerator, threatening a source of my communities drinking water supply.
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I also have spent most of my life dealing with a disease directly associated with dioxin, which a point along the way.
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I discovered that incineration and dioxin go hand in hand, so it prompted me to action umm and cat kind of referred to.
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I have a spare time and that's why I do this, but that's not truly why I'm involved is because I've done a great deal of research.
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I've also had a lived experience.
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That's all.
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Ah, that was a real teacher, and I am just very serious about what needs to happen in our world.
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I have children, grandchildren and great grandchildren who I know are impacted.
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And negative ways by the choices we are making and I've just kind of determined that I'm gonna spend whatever years I have left, which I'm sure there are people hoping they're not many.
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I don't.
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But I would like to be a Burr under the saddle and continue to help us all do better around this.
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Well my my question for you is that when I get my community based packet together for helping communities set up a compose operation, would you be willing to take a look at it and maybe we could talk about something with Waterboro.
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I would love to and I did respond to a survey that our town put out where they were sort of gauging what the interest might be in an organics diversion program for the community.
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We are trashed.
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Ends up at Eco main.
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Umm.
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And I would.
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I would love to weigh in on anything that you have that you would want to present, but I have to be up front and acknowledge the fact that my physical world is very small because of my own health and care of my husband at this point and my efforts are pretty much limited to electronic versions of things and to be up and about somewhere actually doing something.
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In a, you know, in a physical capacity, I'm very limited, but I certainly can make phone calls and that sort of thing.
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So you contact me and we'll see if there's any way I can be of assistance.
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And I would be more than happy to do that if possible.
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All right.
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I'll be reaching out.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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We very much appreciate all the time that all of you put into this and you know it's our job to be here and you guys could all take in time out of your day to be here.
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And we wanna really thank you for that.
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Umm, I believe.
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Rob, did you have anything to say about next steps on this or Brian, no, you're you're welcome to do comments.
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Pretty comments as well till September the 1st and our next meeting will be held in University of Maine and Machias on Thursday of next week on the 29th.
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So if you want to register for that one as well, either virtually or in the person, happy to have you there.
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The thank you all for your time.
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Brian and thank you.
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Yes, thank you.
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I I've actually gotten several emails from other don't waste me people saying they watch the MRC meeting and they tuned into this one and they're they're very optimistic.
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Good.
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Let's put it that way about the direction that we're heading in.
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I think intimate settings like this where everyone left, you know, and we're done with the anecdotal evidence and stuff, and now we just really have to have serious conversations with people and, you know, Jackie and I are not unique.
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There are many people who are retired or disabled or involved with their communities who could.
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Who could you could enlist to help you promote areas you know their own local areas?
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Good job.
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I have people all the time that get irritated with because if I have them, if I have them for 5 minutes, I talk about Juniper Ridge and and how we can better, you know, improve the area.
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So there are people out there if you just reach out and you know sometimes like I said, they don't have the Internet connection that they need to do this.
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The.
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But I they're willing to participate, and poor Ed Spencer.
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Ever.
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Jeez, he's been fighting this fight with Juniper Ridge and and Cassella for decades.
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And he spends his own money to go to Augusta and his own time.
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He was at the MRC meeting today and he asked when this one started and I said 2:00.
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O'clock.
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He goes, damn it, I said.
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Well, you can watch it on the rerun, you know?
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And I said, I'm gonna go to each meeting remotely.
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So you can sign up for as many as you want and you now you can always put in your two cents.
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That's.
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Well, I appreciate you letting me chat or today I know I can be annoying.
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And please don't shoot me.
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Thank you.
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So so can I.
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Can't see you well there for profit.
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I've just pipe in.
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One thing we did have a dedicated just a small web page on the departments web page that will have links to all register for all the upcoming meetings as well as as we get the the.
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Recordings for the meetings available and any and any comments we receive.
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We will see any comments that we receive written through the web, the email address we will make available as well through that link on that web page and we'll send the actual address out to the people who've responded to be on our email.
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Serve list in the next couple of days.
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Thank you for doing that.
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I actually sent Mr Meador.
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The door.
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That.
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Is it Medora or Midori an email about that asking him where the page was?
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Where people instead of just going through the alerts and and now all of a sudden I found it and I went ohh wow, I didn't see that before.
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Yeah, it it literally we've we've been a bit behind the 8 ball and getting some of the planning done on this.
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But yeah, that literally just went Live Today, so.
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Thank you for doing that.
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Sure.
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Thanks everybody. Bye.
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Be sure to end the recording before you end the meeting.
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Yes.
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Got it.
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OK.
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This type of light open.
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I'm really do that, you know.
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Thank God for text support.
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Good to see you guys.
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Hi everyone.
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Bye.
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Thank you.
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Thank you, Joanna. Why?
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Check for you.
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Yet I I missed you.