WEBVTT 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11-0 00:00:03.416 --> 00:00:04.826 Yeah, yes. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14-0 00:00:04.836 --> 00:00:05.086 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16-0 00:00:05.096 --> 00:00:06.836 Somebody sorry. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20-0 00:00:07.386 --> 00:00:07.916 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23-0 00:00:07.926 --> 00:00:09.446 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32-0 00:00:10.656 --> 00:00:12.716 With this, you're gonna with you. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/36-0 00:00:12.856 --> 00:00:16.916 That's OK, but OK. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/43-0 00:00:23.846 --> 00:00:24.586 It's an apple. Really. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/46-0 00:00:24.816 --> 00:00:27.696 Yeah, yeah, he didn't. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/55-0 00:00:33.106 --> 00:00:34.566 We're looking for input from everybody. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/57-0 00:00:34.956 --> 00:00:35.106 No. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/64-0 00:00:35.336 --> 00:00:37.026 What I'm saying let's so you can have some. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/68-0 00:00:41.786 --> 00:00:42.486 Welcome. Sorry. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/75-0 00:00:44.986 --> 00:00:46.386 Do you wanna hear from you? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/80-0 00:00:47.146 --> 00:00:47.826 Yeah, that's. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/84-0 00:00:47.916 --> 00:00:48.506 Let's see. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/94-0 00:00:49.876 --> 00:00:54.446 Whatever should be recognized, they're question of that one. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/96-0 00:00:54.876 --> 00:00:55.326 Good. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/99-0 00:00:55.376 --> 00:00:55.736 Thank you. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/108-0 00:00:56.026 --> 00:00:58.676 You let everyone know you're being recorded. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/123-0 00:01:00.716 --> 00:01:04.596 I want to like move up to the boy, come to the table. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/130-0 00:01:04.606 --> 00:01:05.866 You come to the table. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/138-0 00:01:06.476 --> 00:01:09.346 This is the round table appear OK. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/140-0 00:01:09.436 --> 00:01:09.786 Thank you. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/142-0 00:01:10.046 --> 00:01:10.536 That's true. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/153-0 00:01:15.176 --> 00:01:16.026 He wants to actually have. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/155-0 00:01:16.736 --> 00:01:17.146 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/161-0 00:01:17.156 --> 00:01:19.976 If you're comfortable, yes, come on up. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/170-0 00:01:20.326 --> 00:01:22.446 I'm just being technical back here. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/184-0 00:01:22.656 --> 00:01:26.906 I forgot you're you're being table work. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/186-0 00:01:27.566 --> 00:01:28.136 A couple. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/190-0 00:01:29.686 --> 00:01:31.056 More chairs, yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/192-0 00:01:36.336 --> 00:01:36.646 Alright. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/199-0 00:01:40.666 --> 00:01:45.456 There this one here there. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/221-0 00:01:47.796 --> 00:01:52.314 Let's show you certain times thinking you're excited to show 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/221-1 00:01:52.314 --> 00:01:55.796 the time, but he might be feeling comfortable. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/224-0 00:01:56.286 --> 00:01:56.876 Ohh yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/227-0 00:01:56.886 --> 00:01:57.066 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/231-0 00:01:57.076 --> 00:01:57.756 Well, see, I'm. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/248-0 00:01:57.886 --> 00:02:01.122 Between Brian and between you know, so I'm just spitting out, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/248-1 00:02:01.122 --> 00:02:01.696 will there? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/256-0 00:02:02.206 --> 00:02:04.486 So, OK, we're on, right. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/259-0 00:02:04.496 --> 00:02:04.976 You're on. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/271-0 00:02:04.986 --> 00:02:07.936 We're on, alright and we're recording and we're recording. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/275-0 00:02:07.946 --> 00:02:08.456 Great. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/278-0 00:02:08.606 --> 00:02:09.796 Greetings everyone. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/282-0 00:02:10.446 --> 00:02:12.076 I would compare spiel. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/303-0 00:02:12.486 --> 00:02:15.413 I want to thank everyone for attending this meeting regarding 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/303-1 00:02:15.413 --> 00:02:18.056 updating main solid waste management and recycling too. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/324-0 00:02:19.436 --> 00:02:22.699 This is and instead of talking about, I'm going to going to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/324-1 00:02:22.699 --> 00:02:23.896 talk about who's here. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/339-0 00:02:23.906 --> 00:02:26.566 I'm gonna like after I should talk, since there's a few of us. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/349-0 00:02:26.676 --> 00:02:28.866 Everybody go around the table and introduce themselves. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/364-0 00:02:29.096 --> 00:02:32.746 So I'm not going to say I that's I have been asking. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/387-0 00:02:32.936 --> 00:02:35.972 This is the fifth of five regional meetings we have held 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/387-1 00:02:35.972 --> 00:02:38.476 to solicit public input for updating the plan. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/404-0 00:02:39.686 --> 00:02:42.429 We have previously hosted meetings in Presque Isle and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/404-1 00:02:42.429 --> 00:02:43.676 Chias, Ornel and Augusta. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/452-0 00:02:44.566 --> 00:02:47.536 Even though we have scheduled meetings regionally to encourage 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/452-1 00:02:47.536 --> 00:02:50.317 participation, we concluded a virtual option for those who 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/452-2 00:02:50.317 --> 00:02:53.239 can't make it in person to the meeting in their region and to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/452-3 00:02:53.239 --> 00:02:55.926 attend meetings and other reasons if they wish to do so. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/475-0 00:02:57.716 --> 00:03:00.770 Since this meeting is also being hosted on teams, we will be 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/475-1 00:03:00.770 --> 00:03:03.825 recording the meeting and make the recording available on an 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/475-2 00:03:03.825 --> 00:03:04.726 apartment website. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/520-0 00:03:04.776 --> 00:03:07.511 Hopefully in the next two weeks or so, all comments and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/520-1 00:03:07.511 --> 00:03:10.442 submitted to the department regarding the plan, whether now 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/520-2 00:03:10.442 --> 00:03:13.031 or in the future, will also be made available on the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/520-3 00:03:13.031 --> 00:03:14.106 department's web page. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/543-0 00:03:14.116 --> 00:03:17.643 Page a link will be provided to those who have requested to be 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/543-1 00:03:17.643 --> 00:03:20.106 on our listserv for future correspondences. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/609-0 00:03:20.116 --> 00:03:23.723 So if you haven't now, let us know you want to be on our list 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/609-1 00:03:23.723 --> 00:03:26.982 and you'll get all notifications regarding updating the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/609-2 00:03:26.982 --> 00:03:30.356 management plan, as this is both an in person and virtual 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/609-3 00:03:30.356 --> 00:03:33.848 meeting, we ask that those who wish to speak to raise their 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/609-4 00:03:33.848 --> 00:03:37.513 hand and hold statements until the moderator recognizes you to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/609-5 00:03:37.513 --> 00:03:39.026 allow us time to Mike you. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/629-0 00:03:40.346 --> 00:03:42.747 You do not have to be attending a person to ask questions or 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/629-1 00:03:42.747 --> 00:03:43.416 make a statement. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/638-0 00:03:43.506 --> 00:03:45.216 Just use the raise hand feature. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/665-0 00:03:45.366 --> 00:03:48.951 I think sometimes too, when there's a group of people, if 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/665-1 00:03:48.951 --> 00:03:52.041 we're talking that sometimes gets the sound, gets 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/665-2 00:03:52.041 --> 00:03:54.266 overwhelming to the virtual people. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/689-0 00:03:54.276 --> 00:03:57.801 So just when we're here in person, they're trying to send 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/689-1 00:03:57.801 --> 00:03:59.746 one person speaking at one time. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/711-0 00:04:01.476 --> 00:04:03.814 We'll make sure that everyone who wishes to make a statement 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/711-1 00:04:03.814 --> 00:04:05.386 or ask a question get a chance to do so. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/730-0 00:04:05.476 --> 00:04:08.233 We will be turning the chat feature off for this meeting for 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/730-1 00:04:08.233 --> 00:04:09.046 the virtual world. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/759-0 00:04:10.496 --> 00:04:13.703 The goal of this meeting is to solicit input from you, the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/759-1 00:04:13.703 --> 00:04:16.800 public and all interested stakeholders were updating the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/759-2 00:04:16.800 --> 00:04:17.996 waste management plan. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/772-0 00:04:19.406 --> 00:04:21.996 I'm just a a kind of quick reminder. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/792-0 00:04:22.206 --> 00:04:27.107 It was last updated in 2019 and this is it's due for its five 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/792-1 00:04:27.107 --> 00:04:28.056 year update. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/843-0 00:04:28.146 --> 00:04:32.226 January Maine has several ways reduction and recycling goals, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/843-1 00:04:32.226 --> 00:04:36.174 including decreasing the amount of waste disposed by 5% per 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/843-2 00:04:36.174 --> 00:04:39.793 capita every five years and achieving A5550 rather 50% 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/843-3 00:04:39.793 --> 00:04:43.806 statewide recycling rate, both of which we are unfortunately 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/843-4 00:04:43.806 --> 00:04:44.596 not meeting. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/856-0 00:04:44.966 --> 00:04:47.576 We are looking for comments towards achieving these goals. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/890-0 00:04:47.646 --> 00:04:50.532 We are hoping that attendees have reviewed the 2019 plan on 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/890-1 00:04:50.532 --> 00:04:53.610 are ready to provide discussion on its strengths and weaknesses 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/890-2 00:04:53.610 --> 00:04:54.476 when it's working. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/912-0 00:04:54.486 --> 00:04:59.510 What is not and what should be included in the plan that is not 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/912-1 00:04:59.510 --> 00:04:59.746 38? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/952-0 00:04:59.756 --> 00:05:03.205 Mrs 1305 states each municipality shall provide solid 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/952-1 00:05:03.205 --> 00:05:06.910 waste disposal services for domestic and commercial solid 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/952-2 00:05:06.910 --> 00:05:10.487 waste generated within the municipality and May provide 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/952-3 00:05:10.487 --> 00:05:14.256 these services for industrial wastes and sewage treatment. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/979-0 00:05:15.526 --> 00:05:19.183 We know many minutes disparities provide solid waste services for 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/979-1 00:05:19.183 --> 00:05:20.956 the residents in different ways. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1008-0 00:05:21.526 --> 00:05:25.035 Our municipalities meeting their residents solid ways that 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1008-1 00:05:25.035 --> 00:05:28.188 management needs what can the state do to assist our 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1008-2 00:05:28.188 --> 00:05:31.876 municipalities having issues retaining contractors and staff? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1024-0 00:05:32.466 --> 00:05:35.077 What materials are particularly troublesome and how should they 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1024-1 00:05:35.077 --> 00:05:35.526 be handled? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1048-0 00:05:36.276 --> 00:05:39.447 How can we move material up the waste hierarchy reducing 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1048-1 00:05:39.447 --> 00:05:41.506 material use and encourage meetings? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1061-0 00:05:41.916 --> 00:05:44.416 What type of funding mechanisms are envisioned? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1067-0 00:05:45.506 --> 00:05:47.016 These subjects and more. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1090-0 00:05:47.026 --> 00:05:50.174 What we'd like to encourage discussion and input running 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1090-1 00:05:50.174 --> 00:05:53.266 input is not limited to the time frame of this meeting. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1132-0 00:05:53.316 --> 00:05:57.892 All are invited to submit comments via the reports up 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1132-1 00:05:57.892 --> 00:06:02.976 report updates email at main ways, Plan 2024 at main.gov at 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1132-2 00:06:02.976 --> 00:06:06.196 anytime up until September 1st, 2023. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1161-0 00:06:06.836 --> 00:06:10.156 All comments received will be considered for crafting the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1161-1 00:06:10.156 --> 00:06:13.762 updates of materials management plan, and I don't say anything 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1161-2 00:06:13.762 --> 00:06:14.506 to the model. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1176-0 00:06:14.516 --> 00:06:17.556 Here's what I said, and I start with the official introductions. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1198-0 00:06:17.956 --> 00:06:23.704 And Brian Janesky made the EP the unit for the sustainability 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1198-1 00:06:23.704 --> 00:06:25.466 check charged with. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1201-0 00:06:25.886 --> 00:06:26.856 That's what is your. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1214-0 00:06:31.246 --> 00:06:33.786 From Mark Saint Germain, I'm with Saint Germain. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1231-0 00:06:33.796 --> 00:06:38.096 It's about helping civil engineering firm works a lot. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1274-0 00:06:41.146 --> 00:06:44.831 Mark Maritato Eco main limiting government health and safety 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1274-1 00:06:44.831 --> 00:06:48.456 specialists over there and where the solid waste management 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1274-2 00:06:48.456 --> 00:06:51.900 agency from southern Maine Friday, January I'm an intern 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1274-3 00:06:51.900 --> 00:06:54.196 for the main GP to to stability unit. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1304-0 00:06:54.286 --> 00:06:59.069 I'm doing your credit college Randy McDonald's with Amandeep P 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1304-1 00:06:59.069 --> 00:07:03.852 If your husband, 50, could we grab the people around the edges 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1304-2 00:07:03.852 --> 00:07:04.156 too? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1314-0 00:07:04.166 --> 00:07:05.916 If you want to introduce your phone time, we'll move on. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1323-0 00:07:06.686 --> 00:07:07.936 OK, you want me to go? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1328-0 00:07:08.706 --> 00:07:09.996 I mean, he got circle around. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1330-0 00:07:10.006 --> 00:07:10.216 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1332-0 00:07:10.226 --> 00:07:10.556 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1337-0 00:07:10.606 --> 00:07:13.836 Hi, this guy here. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1344-0 00:07:14.466 --> 00:07:15.536 Hi, I'm Zoe. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1346-0 00:07:15.546 --> 00:07:16.106 Understood. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1355-0 00:07:16.116 --> 00:07:17.756 Building manager at our company. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1363-0 00:07:19.656 --> 00:07:20.666 I'm Anne Carney. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1376-0 00:07:20.676 --> 00:07:24.266 I represent Senate District 29, which is South Portland. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1381-0 00:07:24.276 --> 00:07:26.296 Capability someone, Scarborough. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1398-0 00:07:28.986 --> 00:07:33.826 Hi, I'm Julia McClellan from city of Portland Public works. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1405-0 00:07:33.886 --> 00:07:39.456 From the solid waste division I'm Michael Carroll. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1416-0 00:07:39.726 --> 00:07:41.996 Executive director with the Minister Will review committee. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1457-0 00:07:42.566 --> 00:07:47.163 We manage the waste for 115 communities, 102,000 tons and we 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1457-1 00:07:47.163 --> 00:07:51.458 are now currently a minority owner of the former coastal 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1457-2 00:07:51.458 --> 00:07:53.116 facility and handyman. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1475-0 00:07:55.566 --> 00:07:58.218 Their camera and the units are provisor for the Deep South 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1475-1 00:07:58.218 --> 00:07:59.386 Materials Management unit. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1480-0 00:08:00.866 --> 00:08:02.096 I'm Susan parmley. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1494-0 00:08:02.106 --> 00:08:05.555 I'm the sustainability program manager from the City of South 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1494-1 00:08:05.555 --> 00:08:06.056 Portland. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1530-0 00:08:06.766 --> 00:08:11.002 Megan Mansfield prior and I also work on the sustainability unit, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1530-1 00:08:11.002 --> 00:08:15.110 DP Jessica Nito with me, BP and the Sustainability unit working 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1530-2 00:08:15.110 --> 00:08:17.356 to implement the PR for packaging. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1535-0 00:08:18.626 --> 00:08:20.176 Great everybody, Mike. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1537-0 00:08:20.186 --> 00:08:20.616 Arsenal. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1548-0 00:08:20.626 --> 00:08:22.076 I'm the manager of sustainability. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1562-0 00:08:22.086 --> 00:08:27.137 For me, health and they that be a recipient of one of the D 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1562-1 00:08:27.137 --> 00:08:27.726 grants. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1566-0 00:08:27.816 --> 00:08:28.316 Thanks guys. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1578-0 00:08:29.226 --> 00:08:31.842 Could you later I'm Listenability intern working 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1578-1 00:08:31.842 --> 00:08:32.376 with Mike. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1592-0 00:08:32.526 --> 00:08:34.136 Maine health and Rise in junior college. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1596-0 00:08:36.226 --> 00:08:37.246 We're behind the curtain. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1603-0 00:08:40.636 --> 00:08:41.026 I'm Jim. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1621-0 00:08:41.276 --> 00:08:43.728 I work with the Department of Environmental Protections 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1621-1 00:08:43.728 --> 00:08:44.166 stability. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1624-0 00:08:45.286 --> 00:08:46.066 Margaret barks. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1641-0 00:08:46.076 --> 00:08:48.786 I work with sustainability unit on the drug take back program. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1665-0 00:08:50.816 --> 00:08:54.680 We wanna have people online interviews or because they can, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1665-1 00:08:54.680 --> 00:08:57.836 when they when they, when they, when they speak. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1667-0 00:08:58.186 --> 00:08:58.536 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1680-0 00:08:58.546 --> 00:09:00.166 Yeah, that's the easy way to do it. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1690-0 00:09:00.676 --> 00:09:04.366 Didn't making everybody we miss someone. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1725-0 00:09:05.036 --> 00:09:07.937 So we didn't send out agendas, but we we found that with the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1725-1 00:09:07.937 --> 00:09:10.647 previous meetings, we kind of ended up going back to our 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1725-2 00:09:10.647 --> 00:09:12.026 discussion starters document. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1742-0 00:09:12.036 --> 00:09:16.016 So we pulled that up instead of the agenda, just to kind of walk 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1742-1 00:09:16.016 --> 00:09:16.506 through. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1754-0 00:09:17.256 --> 00:09:19.136 So this is our last of these meetings. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1766-0 00:09:19.146 --> 00:09:21.166 We had a meeting in Bristol County. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1794-0 00:09:21.336 --> 00:09:25.773 Washington County if not Scott County so far and well, we're 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1794-1 00:09:25.773 --> 00:09:30.064 not trying to draw too many conclusions just based on what 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1794-2 00:09:30.064 --> 00:09:31.446 we've heard so far. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1824-0 00:09:31.516 --> 00:09:36.266 There's a couple themes that we've heard repeated, and one of 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1824-1 00:09:36.266 --> 00:09:41.093 those is how important it is to have a well organized transfer 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1824-2 00:09:41.093 --> 00:09:41.706 station. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1835-0 00:09:42.636 --> 00:09:46.716 So people can drop waste off, but also offer recycling. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1872-0 00:09:47.766 --> 00:09:50.944 Umm, you know, actually, before we delve into the discussion 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1872-1 00:09:50.944 --> 00:09:54.071 starters, I guess we could just open the floor bird general 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1872-2 00:09:54.071 --> 00:09:55.686 discussion open to that for us. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1874-0 00:09:55.696 --> 00:09:57.746 Yeah, we'll save our right. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1885-0 00:09:57.756 --> 00:10:00.386 We'll save our talking points for conversation. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1893-0 00:10:00.526 --> 00:10:01.826 How would you get them going? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1896-0 00:10:01.896 --> 00:10:02.446 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1900-0 00:10:02.596 --> 00:10:02.696 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1903-0 00:10:04.196 --> 00:10:06.856 You know, so yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1911-0 00:10:06.866 --> 00:10:07.846 So let's open up the floor. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1921-0 00:10:07.856 --> 00:10:12.176 Does anyone I have a common statement? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1973-0 00:10:12.606 --> 00:10:16.356 Yeah, Mark maritato equal mean I guess the only thing that kind 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1973-1 00:10:16.356 --> 00:10:19.988 of threw me off in this process is that we don't have a draft 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1973-2 00:10:19.988 --> 00:10:23.504 document to be looking at to talk about where we're looking 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/1973-3 00:10:23.504 --> 00:10:25.496 at something from five years ago. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2014-0 00:10:25.506 --> 00:10:29.648 And I do understand that, you know, you don't want to put the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2014-1 00:10:29.648 --> 00:10:33.856 cart before the horse, but it's hard for us to know, you know, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2014-2 00:10:33.856 --> 00:10:37.931 where the metrics like today versus what happened, you know, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2014-3 00:10:37.931 --> 00:10:38.866 in 2019. Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2036-0 00:10:38.946 --> 00:10:42.075 Well, I think our whole idea is to try this is this is what was 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2036-1 00:10:42.075 --> 00:10:42.466 in 2019. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2040-0 00:10:42.956 --> 00:10:46.146 You know we have. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2042-0 00:10:46.156 --> 00:10:46.636 What? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2057-0 00:10:46.736 --> 00:10:51.416 What from the flat plan is, was work and didn't work. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2059-0 00:10:51.426 --> 00:10:51.636 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2061-0 00:10:51.646 --> 00:10:51.996 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2065-0 00:10:52.006 --> 00:10:52.836 And then what? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2067-0 00:10:52.906 --> 00:10:53.136 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2077-0 00:10:53.146 --> 00:10:55.176 What would you like to see added? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2085-0 00:10:55.186 --> 00:10:59.676 So that's kind of the thought behind it. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2091-0 00:11:00.136 --> 00:11:01.006 Did you get that? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2131-0 00:11:01.016 --> 00:11:04.948 It's just if you know if there are big changes from what the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2131-1 00:11:04.948 --> 00:11:08.752 numbers were in 2019, it's it's hard for us if we might be 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2131-2 00:11:08.752 --> 00:11:11.846 spending time on something that's not relevant. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2138-0 00:11:12.256 --> 00:11:13.886 That's that's my only observation. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2182-0 00:11:13.896 --> 00:11:16.840 We do know which generation and disposal faster for two years, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2182-1 00:11:16.840 --> 00:11:19.877 two years so and there is a lag because we have to gather all of 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2182-2 00:11:19.877 --> 00:11:21.326 the data we have to analyze it. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2196-0 00:11:21.336 --> 00:11:24.526 We have to, you know, come up, spin up the facts about it. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2201-0 00:11:24.536 --> 00:11:25.516 What's our recycling rate? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2208-0 00:11:25.526 --> 00:11:26.886 What's up for capita disposal? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2244-0 00:11:27.076 --> 00:11:31.240 But that is more recent than 2018, and it would have been 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2244-1 00:11:31.240 --> 00:11:35.620 good to have that blink because that your update on your web 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2244-2 00:11:35.620 --> 00:11:39.066 page, because repeat we didn't know about that. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2248-0 00:11:39.186 --> 00:11:40.586 You know that? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2254-0 00:11:40.596 --> 00:11:41.506 Yeah, there is a. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2257-0 00:11:41.836 --> 00:11:42.666 That's a good point. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2281-0 00:11:42.736 --> 00:11:44.764 Yeah, I mean, it is on the department and it is on the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2281-1 00:11:44.764 --> 00:11:46.976 website, but if you don't know where to look for it, right? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2287-0 00:11:46.986 --> 00:11:48.156 Yeah, they're in the right. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2308-0 00:11:48.716 --> 00:11:52.915 We've got some comments online from Tony Smith and then only 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2308-1 00:11:52.915 --> 00:11:54.636 we're talking Tony muted. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2316-0 00:11:57.056 --> 00:11:58.386 How about now, Jim? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2327-0 00:11:58.396 --> 00:11:59.646 Beautiful, yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2320-0 00:11:58.706 --> 00:12:00.436 You know, I. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2324-0 00:12:00.766 --> 00:12:01.796 I'm Tony Smith. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2329-0 00:12:01.806 --> 00:12:02.426 I'm a director. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2339-0 00:12:03.276 --> 00:12:07.056 Uh, the MRC and I I work with Mike. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2363-0 00:12:07.966 --> 00:12:13.142 Umm, I don't have a problem with going into this next five year 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2363-1 00:12:13.142 --> 00:12:15.406 plan without having a draft. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2359-0 00:12:15.796 --> 00:12:15.956 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2379-0 00:12:18.126 --> 00:12:23.814 I've looked at the current one and it's a good template moving 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2372-0 00:12:19.856 --> 00:12:20.196 The. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2379-1 00:12:23.814 --> 00:12:24.536 forward. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2406-0 00:12:24.546 --> 00:12:29.618 I think that we can incorporate changes we've seen in the last 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2396-0 00:12:26.666 --> 00:12:26.826 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2406-1 00:12:29.618 --> 00:12:34.046 five years and those that we anticipate going forward. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2418-0 00:12:36.556 --> 00:12:42.256 As Mike said, we managed the garbage for 115 municipalities 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2418-1 00:12:42.256 --> 00:12:42.636 and. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2460-0 00:12:45.186 --> 00:12:48.468 Some of that garbage is collected directly and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2460-1 00:12:48.468 --> 00:12:52.798 indirectly brought in the our the facility, as I'm called our 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2460-2 00:12:52.798 --> 00:12:56.989 facility where a minority owner and some is comes by way of 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2460-3 00:12:56.989 --> 00:12:58.176 transfer station. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2476-0 00:12:58.406 --> 00:13:03.274 But we feel we're we're really well positioned to help quite a 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2476-1 00:13:03.274 --> 00:13:05.206 bit, a lot going forward. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2487-0 00:13:06.196 --> 00:13:06.676 Thank you, Jim. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2484-0 00:13:07.786 --> 00:13:08.476 Thanks, Tony. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2492-0 00:13:08.926 --> 00:13:12.316 Jackie Elliott, you're muted. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2511-0 00:13:14.496 --> 00:13:21.346 Hi again, Jackie Elliott, Citizen Waterboro DEP. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2506-0 00:13:18.086 --> 00:13:18.416 Yes. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2532-0 00:13:21.156 --> 00:13:23.296 And wait my. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2524-0 00:13:21.396 --> 00:13:24.606 Main waste planning groupie at this point? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2528-0 00:13:24.836 --> 00:13:25.416 Umm. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2549-0 00:13:25.626 --> 00:13:28.803 First of all, I just want to express my appreciation for the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2549-1 00:13:28.803 --> 00:13:30.886 fact that you have held these meetings. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2604-0 00:13:31.216 --> 00:13:34.851 The fact that you have taken them across the state so 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2604-1 00:13:34.851 --> 00:13:38.687 important, so important to include the public and policy 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2604-2 00:13:38.687 --> 00:13:42.523 decisions because the choices that are made affect human 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2604-3 00:13:42.523 --> 00:13:46.696 health and the environment and the quality of life for all of 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2604-4 00:13:46.696 --> 00:13:47.706 us is maynards. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2616-0 00:13:48.846 --> 00:13:52.119 I have noted that the public has shown interest in these 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2616-1 00:13:52.119 --> 00:13:52.636 meetings. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2712-0 00:13:53.226 --> 00:13:56.526 I would just suggest that perhaps there might have been 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2633-0 00:13:55.616 --> 00:13:55.756 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2712-1 00:13:56.526 --> 00:14:00.297 more public participation with some increased advertising and I 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2712-2 00:14:00.297 --> 00:14:03.950 know we have discussed that at previous meetings and at least 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2712-3 00:14:03.950 --> 00:14:07.309 some of the meetings being scheduled to accommodate busy 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2712-4 00:14:07.309 --> 00:14:10.609 working folks schedules the virtual option I believe is 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2712-5 00:14:10.609 --> 00:14:14.203 vital, something I appreciate very much as otherwise I would 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2712-6 00:14:14.203 --> 00:14:17.090 not have been able to participate at all in this 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2712-7 00:14:17.090 --> 00:14:20.920 important issue and perhaps that might be preferable for some of 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2712-8 00:14:20.920 --> 00:14:21.156 you. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2733-0 00:14:22.506 --> 00:14:26.420 There have been public contributions at the various 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2733-1 00:14:26.420 --> 00:14:30.108 meetings that show some interesting activity and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2733-2 00:14:30.108 --> 00:14:30.936 initiative. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2746-0 00:14:31.166 --> 00:14:35.366 A lot of that has been focused around management of organics. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2802-0 00:14:36.376 --> 00:14:41.231 Umm, it's been acknowledged that challenges still remain in that 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2802-1 00:14:41.231 --> 00:14:45.787 realm relative to diversion and Reese reuse of this resource 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2802-2 00:14:45.787 --> 00:14:50.343 that can actually represent up to 1/3 of the waste stream as 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2802-3 00:14:50.343 --> 00:14:55.198 we're looking to, you know, cut down on what must be disposed in 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2802-4 00:14:55.198 --> 00:14:55.796 the end. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2855-0 00:14:56.486 --> 00:15:01.129 So going forward, it's important to figure out how to support 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2855-1 00:15:01.129 --> 00:15:05.623 those efforts, in particular across the state as well as we 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2855-2 00:15:05.623 --> 00:15:09.442 try to figure out what are the important pieces of 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2839-0 00:15:07.746 --> 00:15:07.926 Yep. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2855-3 00:15:09.442 --> 00:15:13.936 infrastructure wise to meet the the need of Maine citizens. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2861-0 00:15:14.106 --> 00:15:15.896 And again, thank you for this opportunity. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2869-0 00:15:18.196 --> 00:15:18.946 Thanks, Jackie. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2873-0 00:15:18.596 --> 00:15:19.076 Please join. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2874-0 00:15:18.986 --> 00:15:19.456 I'll let you know. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2886-0 00:15:26.126 --> 00:15:29.176 Hi, Elena bertocci, Mandy EP. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2896-0 00:15:29.186 --> 00:15:30.836 I work in the sustainability unit. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2949-0 00:15:31.426 --> 00:15:34.885 I just wanted to clarify I I think it can be a little 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2949-1 00:15:34.885 --> 00:15:38.857 intimidating to try to refer back to the draft plan and and I 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2949-2 00:15:38.857 --> 00:15:43.022 think the reason we don't have a draft plan is cuz we have ideas 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2949-3 00:15:43.022 --> 00:15:45.456 that we get sitting at our computers. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2994-0 00:15:45.506 --> 00:15:48.839 Most of us spend too much time at our computers and not enough 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2994-1 00:15:48.839 --> 00:15:51.537 time out in the field, and I think this meeting in 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2994-2 00:15:51.537 --> 00:15:54.658 particular, it looks like we have a lot of people who are, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/2994-3 00:15:54.658 --> 00:15:57.356 you know, really hands on working on these issues. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3021-0 00:15:57.796 --> 00:16:01.098 And so I think this is just an opportunity to hear what you 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3021-1 00:16:01.098 --> 00:16:03.905 guys are seeing, what problems you're seeing, what 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3021-2 00:16:03.905 --> 00:16:05.446 opportunities you're seeing. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3049-0 00:16:05.606 --> 00:16:11.197 And so maybe that uh is is where you might start instead of 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3049-1 00:16:11.197 --> 00:16:16.136 trying to to worry too much about the exact numbers. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3050-0 00:16:15.216 --> 00:16:16.956 Hello. Yes. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3054-0 00:16:19.896 --> 00:16:20.436 Thanks Elena. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3060-0 00:16:27.066 --> 00:16:28.446 I have a question. Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3088-0 00:16:28.486 --> 00:16:32.770 So my understanding is the recording of the numbers comes 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3088-1 00:16:32.770 --> 00:16:37.275 from the transfer stations and processors like our ourselves 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3088-2 00:16:37.275 --> 00:16:38.826 from the former life. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3108-0 00:16:39.116 --> 00:16:42.123 One of the things I used to do was broke a cardboard and that 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3108-1 00:16:42.123 --> 00:16:43.626 cardboard was brokered through. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3159-0 00:16:44.476 --> 00:16:48.253 Uh, like you're generating your dollar generals and your 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3159-1 00:16:48.253 --> 00:16:52.296 hannaford's and and those type of things, they failed around 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3159-2 00:16:52.296 --> 00:16:56.007 these were large amounts of you can 120,000 square foot 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3159-3 00:16:56.007 --> 00:16:56.736 warehouses. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3164-0 00:16:58.866 --> 00:17:01.426 Does that fall through the cracks? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3172-0 00:17:01.596 --> 00:17:04.656 Because there's no, does not. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3212-0 00:17:04.666 --> 00:17:07.990 We actually don't use the transfer station reports for 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3212-1 00:17:07.990 --> 00:17:11.676 that report to be try to go to the last point where material 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3212-2 00:17:11.676 --> 00:17:15.060 was either disposed or before it left the state and was 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3212-3 00:17:15.060 --> 00:17:15.846 consolidated. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3247-0 00:17:16.146 --> 00:17:20.051 So we go to Eco main for example or casellas and this report for 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3247-1 00:17:20.051 --> 00:17:23.715 all the facilities that they manage, Dollar General actually 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3247-2 00:17:23.715 --> 00:17:24.676 does not report. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3256-0 00:17:24.876 --> 00:17:26.236 Jennifer does Shaws does. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3304-0 00:17:26.246 --> 00:17:30.397 So I'm wondering if maybe we do have a gap there and there's a 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3304-1 00:17:30.397 --> 00:17:34.747 lot outside of the Hannaford and Shaw and we used to drive around 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3304-2 00:17:34.747 --> 00:17:38.700 with and tractor trailers that because these were contracts 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3304-3 00:17:38.700 --> 00:17:42.786 that like Scotia and sign or something to go treatment forms. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3306-0 00:17:43.746 --> 00:17:44.036 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3314-0 00:17:44.046 --> 00:17:45.276 Walmart North author reports. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3331-0 00:17:45.286 --> 00:17:49.451 But there we we definitely I wouldn't be surprised if there 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3331-1 00:17:49.451 --> 00:17:50.076 are gaps. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3340-0 00:17:50.086 --> 00:17:52.486 We're trying to capture as much as possible. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3366-0 00:17:52.496 --> 00:17:55.635 We have the the law now that does require biennial or I'm 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3366-1 00:17:55.635 --> 00:17:58.936 sorry for annual reporting for the recycling establishments. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3387-0 00:17:59.626 --> 00:18:02.426 So they're supposed to be reporting on the material that 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3387-1 00:18:02.426 --> 00:18:05.176 they collect and material that they send out the state. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3398-0 00:18:06.636 --> 00:18:08.806 But I'm not sure that we have everything. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3459-0 00:18:08.816 --> 00:18:11.531 We have an old book that we've been working with and kind of 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3459-1 00:18:11.531 --> 00:18:14.202 developing over time and adding to, but if anybody knows of 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3459-2 00:18:14.202 --> 00:18:16.784 other entities like Dollar General Now I can reach out to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3459-3 00:18:16.784 --> 00:18:19.410 them that could be brokering stuff out of state that we're 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3459-4 00:18:19.410 --> 00:18:22.036 not getting information from any great to try to find out. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3506-0 00:18:26.296 --> 00:18:29.954 Short of going to every single business in the state, you know 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3506-1 00:18:29.954 --> 00:18:33.032 I'd said working on the best information we have and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3506-2 00:18:33.032 --> 00:18:36.632 hopefully with our restart, you know, that's just like people 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3506-3 00:18:36.632 --> 00:18:38.606 may that's a pile of information. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3513-0 00:18:38.616 --> 00:18:39.266 Yeah, exactly. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3516-0 00:18:39.276 --> 00:18:41.036 Across from your. Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3529-0 00:18:41.086 --> 00:18:43.426 And we did capture for when the facility to operate. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3549-0 00:18:43.436 --> 00:18:46.567 We did capture all the recyclables that went out there, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3549-1 00:18:46.567 --> 00:18:48.356 so people looking at that again. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3581-0 00:18:57.376 --> 00:19:01.110 Should we move into our discussion, starters OK, and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3581-1 00:19:01.110 --> 00:19:05.126 people in the back to feel free to jump in and any time. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3596-0 00:19:05.136 --> 00:19:07.226 If you've got something that you want to talk about or bring up. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3629-0 00:19:09.066 --> 00:19:12.341 So again, going back to what we've heard about, so Southern 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3629-1 00:19:12.341 --> 00:19:15.726 Maine in general, you got a lot of really good infrastructure 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3629-2 00:19:15.726 --> 00:19:17.036 for drop off facilities. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3693-0 00:19:17.686 --> 00:19:21.110 And I'm sorry for curbside collection rather, but we're 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3693-1 00:19:21.110 --> 00:19:24.901 curious to know if there are communities and they're probably 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3693-2 00:19:24.901 --> 00:19:28.631 not represented here today, if they are, that have herb site 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3693-3 00:19:28.631 --> 00:19:32.605 collection but umm, have limited options for to dropping off for 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3693-4 00:19:32.605 --> 00:19:35.662 things like universal or hazardous waste, mercury 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3693-5 00:19:35.662 --> 00:19:37.986 containing lamps, that sort of thing. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3739-0 00:19:39.256 --> 00:19:41.723 That's one of the topics that has come up in some of our past 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3739-1 00:19:41.723 --> 00:19:44.150 discussions is that, you know, even if there is a place with 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3739-2 00:19:44.150 --> 00:19:46.696 the transfer station, maybe the transfer station doesn't always 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3739-3 00:19:46.696 --> 00:19:48.526 take everything that they need to get rid of. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3775-0 00:19:48.536 --> 00:19:51.447 So they're looking to some of the the, for example, some of 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3775-1 00:19:51.447 --> 00:19:54.018 the retail sites that participate in our stewardship 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3775-2 00:19:54.018 --> 00:19:57.026 program so that they can take things like mercury lamps back. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3812-0 00:19:57.036 --> 00:19:59.858 But it's not as comprehensive as as having a single drop off 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3812-1 00:19:59.858 --> 00:20:02.679 facility where they can go take, you know, their E waste and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3812-2 00:20:02.679 --> 00:20:04.946 their lamps and and all of the material at once. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3820-0 00:20:05.516 --> 00:20:08.116 So just kind of general. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3822-0 00:20:08.126 --> 00:20:08.456 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3824-0 00:20:08.506 --> 00:20:08.816 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3869-0 00:20:08.826 --> 00:20:12.195 So I'm with the city of South Portland, and while we have a 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3869-1 00:20:12.195 --> 00:20:15.396 lot of opportunities of for different types of ways that 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3869-2 00:20:15.396 --> 00:20:19.102 people can collect, you waste is one that comes up frequently and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3869-3 00:20:19.102 --> 00:20:21.236 are transportation doesn't accept it. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3911-0 00:20:21.286 --> 00:20:25.176 We used to have an E waste day and it was frankly we combined 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3911-1 00:20:25.176 --> 00:20:28.690 it with our household hazardous waste day and it was so 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3911-2 00:20:28.690 --> 00:20:32.016 incredibly busy that it just wasn't feasible for us. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3947-0 00:20:33.086 --> 00:20:35.908 So now we tell people to take it back for they got it and and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3947-1 00:20:35.908 --> 00:20:38.776 instances where they can, but there's a lot of instances where 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3947-2 00:20:38.776 --> 00:20:39.686 that's not the case. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/3949-0 00:20:40.666 --> 00:20:40.956 Umm. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4007-0 00:20:41.286 --> 00:20:44.261 So if there are more opportunities for you waste take 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4007-1 00:20:44.261 --> 00:20:47.622 back or basis, we could send people that would be helpful is 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4007-2 00:20:47.622 --> 00:20:51.037 can I ask for because we have a sewage of program that allows 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4007-3 00:20:51.037 --> 00:20:54.398 the muscles to take it for a reduced rate compared to what a 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4007-4 00:20:54.398 --> 00:20:56.326 commercial business would pay for. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4013-0 00:20:56.356 --> 00:20:57.126 E waste recycling. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4028-0 00:20:57.136 --> 00:21:00.085 So is there a reason the city doesn't take it at the transfer 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4028-1 00:21:00.085 --> 00:21:00.466 station? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4040-0 00:21:00.476 --> 00:21:04.026 Is it just storage or storage is in the yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4081-0 00:21:06.116 --> 00:21:10.647 And more recently, the waste haulers now, even though there's 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4081-1 00:21:10.647 --> 00:21:14.959 no cost for the units, the charging fuel surcharges and so 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4081-2 00:21:14.959 --> 00:21:18.686 for us, you know, we have pick up every two weeks. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4102-0 00:21:19.116 --> 00:21:22.826 It's $100 fuel surcharge. Every time they roll into the yard. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4109-0 00:21:24.166 --> 00:21:25.056 I mean, I don't know. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4121-0 00:21:25.126 --> 00:21:28.346 For us it's manageable, but for small it TI I don't know. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4152-0 00:21:30.896 --> 00:21:35.332 For for many of our Members in the area of the state that we we 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4152-1 00:21:35.332 --> 00:21:39.561 cover and service, they stopped coming to collect because of 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4152-2 00:21:39.561 --> 00:21:40.046 volume. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4199-0 00:21:40.146 --> 00:21:43.422 They want it more volume to come all the way up and then they 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4199-1 00:21:43.422 --> 00:21:46.856 don't have the footprint or the floor space for that volume, you 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4199-2 00:21:46.856 --> 00:21:50.079 know, and we service a lot of small communities that are are 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4199-3 00:21:50.079 --> 00:21:51.136 off the beaten path. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4209-0 00:21:51.146 --> 00:21:53.486 And that's been the one thing that's been brought to her. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4276-0 00:21:57.476 --> 00:22:00.391 It's sometimes seems that if there was a, you know, a 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4276-1 00:22:00.391 --> 00:22:03.792 regional facility that was just for the kind of materials that 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4276-2 00:22:03.792 --> 00:22:06.816 we cover in the stewardship programs and and maybe even 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4276-3 00:22:06.816 --> 00:22:10.325 occasional hustle testers waste that would be of a real benefit, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4276-4 00:22:10.325 --> 00:22:13.348 even if it's not quite as convenience going just to the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4276-5 00:22:13.348 --> 00:22:14.266 transfer station. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4280-0 00:22:14.416 --> 00:22:14.806 I don't know. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4293-0 00:22:14.816 --> 00:22:17.666 You know, this is more your area of expertise. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4299-0 00:22:17.676 --> 00:22:18.436 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4324-0 00:22:18.536 --> 00:22:21.061 We had the same thing in the in the northern part of the state, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4324-1 00:22:21.061 --> 00:22:23.626 where it transport distances are long and populations are small. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4355-0 00:22:24.386 --> 00:22:27.369 Umm, we haven't gotten much traction in pitching the idea of 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4355-1 00:22:27.369 --> 00:22:30.400 regional collection centers or or sort of cooperative efforts 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4355-2 00:22:30.400 --> 00:22:31.036 up there yet. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4366-0 00:22:31.046 --> 00:22:33.786 But I'm hoping that at some point we might be able to. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4401-0 00:22:33.796 --> 00:22:36.831 I don't know if we could, you know, waste diversion grants and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4401-1 00:22:36.831 --> 00:22:39.819 focused a lot on organics, but maybe we could start, you know 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4401-2 00:22:39.819 --> 00:22:41.746 that seems to be getting some momentum. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4414-0 00:22:41.756 --> 00:22:43.996 Maybe we could start looking at, you know, universal ways. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4424-0 00:22:44.006 --> 00:22:45.676 Council has this waste, things like that. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4427-0 00:22:46.366 --> 00:22:47.156 There are some obstacles. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4450-0 00:22:49.896 --> 00:22:52.524 Hazardous waste transporters need to have a place to take it, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4450-1 00:22:52.524 --> 00:22:52.906 you know? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4477-0 00:22:52.916 --> 00:22:55.288 And if they don't have an established facility close to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4477-1 00:22:55.288 --> 00:22:57.788 where they're collecting, there's a storage time issue and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4477-2 00:22:57.788 --> 00:22:58.466 stuff like that. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4512-0 00:22:58.476 --> 00:23:01.408 So that's also a roadblock to the servicing places like 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4512-1 00:23:01.408 --> 00:23:04.601 county, but you know people are interested with certainly be 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4512-2 00:23:04.601 --> 00:23:07.376 happy to entertain the ideas and and work with them. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4522-0 00:23:07.736 --> 00:23:09.396 That's one note on the waste version grant. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4555-0 00:23:09.406 --> 00:23:12.800 So this the highest depository priority is actually regional 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4555-1 00:23:12.800 --> 00:23:16.194 municipal projects and organics is prioritized, but it's the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4555-2 00:23:16.194 --> 00:23:19.366 highest priority is regional and municipal applications. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4569-0 00:23:19.376 --> 00:23:21.606 So I guess it's just what I've seen so far has been organic. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4596-0 00:23:21.616 --> 00:23:25.364 It has, yeah, with the part of that is just due to the nature 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4596-1 00:23:25.364 --> 00:23:28.930 of the applications we've received, but it is not a couple 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4596-2 00:23:28.930 --> 00:23:31.106 of comments online also Tony Smith. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4616-0 00:23:36.026 --> 00:23:37.066 Is that my cue, Jim? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4622-0 00:23:37.616 --> 00:23:38.476 That trip to you? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4620-0 00:23:37.966 --> 00:23:39.276 That's alright. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4624-0 00:23:39.286 --> 00:23:39.686 Thank you. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4664-0 00:23:41.446 --> 00:23:45.837 On the organics, we know the majority owners now the facility 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4664-1 00:23:45.837 --> 00:23:49.732 in Hampton, we're gonna be taking a harder look at the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4664-2 00:23:49.732 --> 00:23:52.706 reuse of of the organics that we receive. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4686-0 00:23:54.656 --> 00:23:58.304 That'll be a a key component that they'll wanna pull out of 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4686-1 00:23:58.304 --> 00:23:59.216 the way stream. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4683-0 00:23:59.646 --> 00:23:59.826 You. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4698-0 00:24:00.896 --> 00:24:05.166 And on here on I lived in the town of Mount Desert. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4756-0 00:24:05.556 --> 00:24:10.501 And I'm chairman of the Acadia Disposal District, which is A6 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4756-1 00:24:10.501 --> 00:24:15.605 member Town Disposal District, and we offer each year a one day 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4721-0 00:24:12.926 --> 00:24:13.126 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4756-2 00:24:15.605 --> 00:24:19.992 hazardous and Universal Waste collection event and our 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4756-3 00:24:19.992 --> 00:24:25.255 hazardous waste vendor set three single day collection records up 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4756-4 00:24:25.255 --> 00:24:28.286 here which I believe is a good thing. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4829-0 00:24:28.296 --> 00:24:32.480 That means a lot of materials coming out of the way stream, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4829-1 00:24:32.480 --> 00:24:36.804 and we also let the transfer station that we use in Southwest 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4829-2 00:24:36.804 --> 00:24:41.198 Harbor, UM in addition to the annual collection of E Waste, we 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4829-3 00:24:41.198 --> 00:24:45.173 can take the waste there to the transfer station the 2nd 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4820-0 00:24:44.366 --> 00:24:47.406 Thank you. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4829-4 00:24:45.173 --> 00:24:49.567 Saturday of each month and the the cages disposal district was 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4829-5 00:24:49.567 --> 00:24:52.566 successful in applying for CDs funding of. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4845-0 00:24:52.976 --> 00:24:58.266 We were awarded $350,000 to look at a local regional. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4851-0 00:24:58.046 --> 00:24:58.316 Well. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4854-0 00:24:59.076 --> 00:25:01.346 Uh hazardous waste collection. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4863-0 00:25:02.256 --> 00:25:04.926 Ohh site somewhere with that. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4873-0 00:25:04.446 --> 00:25:04.606 So. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4883-0 00:25:04.936 --> 00:25:09.111 That's the the Kickers to find where you'll be able to place 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4883-1 00:25:09.111 --> 00:25:09.316 it. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4896-0 00:25:10.966 --> 00:25:14.856 People are already raising concerns, which rightfully so. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4943-0 00:25:15.346 --> 00:25:19.503 We just were notified of the grant and the amount of money 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4906-0 00:25:16.096 --> 00:25:16.636 Yes. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4943-1 00:25:19.503 --> 00:25:23.379 that we will that we have actually received and now we 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4943-2 00:25:23.379 --> 00:25:27.254 have to get ramped up for the education part on what a 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4943-3 00:25:27.254 --> 00:25:29.016 facility might look like. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4955-0 00:25:29.306 --> 00:25:34.216 Nothing's cast in stone yet, except the the grant funding. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4958-0 00:25:35.696 --> 00:25:36.286 Thank you. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4969-0 00:25:36.616 --> 00:25:37.076 Thank you, Jim. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4967-0 00:25:37.026 --> 00:25:38.176 Thank you. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/4970-0 00:25:38.186 --> 00:25:39.436 Welcome, Alina. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5000-0 00:25:42.466 --> 00:25:45.778 I I hate to take us back, but I could just get a couple more 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5000-1 00:25:45.778 --> 00:25:49.036 questions on the E waste the the woman from South Portland. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5022-0 00:25:49.046 --> 00:25:52.369 You said that you don't have space is that you don't have a a 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5022-1 00:25:52.369 --> 00:25:55.316 structure to store it or you don't have physical land. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5046-0 00:25:56.906 --> 00:26:00.708 I think it's more of a structure issue at the moment and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5046-1 00:26:00.708 --> 00:26:02.176 budgetary constraints. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5052-0 00:26:03.436 --> 00:26:05.296 And then sorry, go ahead. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5050-0 00:26:03.456 --> 00:26:03.816 You see it. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5054-0 00:26:04.966 --> 00:26:07.096 So I'm sorry. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5071-0 00:26:07.146 --> 00:26:10.039 I I was just clarifying whether she said South Portland, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5071-1 00:26:10.039 --> 00:26:10.496 Portland. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5082-0 00:26:10.696 --> 00:26:12.896 Sorry, report that didn't make sense to me. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5106-0 00:26:12.906 --> 00:26:18.420 I think they asked me again, you guys important that becomes back 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5096-0 00:26:17.096 --> 00:26:17.346 Ah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5106-1 00:26:18.420 --> 00:26:20.676 to the regional collection. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5110-0 00:26:23.246 --> 00:26:25.206 You're on, Elena like. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5104-0 00:26:24.636 --> 00:26:24.966 OK. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5151-0 00:26:24.976 --> 00:26:29.091 And then Mike, you said that a lot of people, umm, they're 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5151-1 00:26:29.091 --> 00:26:33.555 having issues with, not people not being the, the consolidators 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5151-2 00:26:33.555 --> 00:26:37.949 not being willing to come pick up, that's actually not allowed 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5151-3 00:26:37.949 --> 00:26:38.716 by the law. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5162-0 00:26:38.726 --> 00:26:40.726 So they should get in touch with the department. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5180-0 00:26:41.436 --> 00:26:46.471 If you could pass them that information, they they they like 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5169-0 00:26:42.586 --> 00:26:42.896 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5180-1 00:26:46.471 --> 00:26:47.626 can't do that. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5189-0 00:26:48.256 --> 00:26:48.466 And. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5182-0 00:26:48.536 --> 00:26:49.046 Umm. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5193-0 00:26:49.276 --> 00:26:50.746 And then another question on that. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5220-0 00:26:51.786 --> 00:26:54.732 When you say they don't have enough material, is that they 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5207-0 00:26:54.246 --> 00:26:54.576 More. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5220-1 00:26:54.732 --> 00:26:57.577 don't have storage space to store material or they don't 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5220-2 00:26:57.577 --> 00:26:58.376 have throughput. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5218-0 00:26:59.066 --> 00:26:59.276 No. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5252-0 00:26:59.846 --> 00:27:05.018 So my understanding is there was a minimum for pickup and they 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5252-1 00:27:05.018 --> 00:27:10.436 didn't have the capacity for the footprint to store that minimum. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5262-0 00:27:12.096 --> 00:27:14.392 Yeah, you should send them to the department because we can 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5262-1 00:27:14.392 --> 00:27:14.966 get that fixed. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5265-0 00:27:14.976 --> 00:27:15.346 That's not. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5271-0 00:27:17.466 --> 00:27:17.956 Thank you. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5278-0 00:27:17.966 --> 00:27:18.686 If you wouldn't mind. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5276-0 00:27:20.086 --> 00:27:20.606 No problem. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5279-0 00:27:20.616 --> 00:27:20.956 Thank you. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5304-0 00:27:23.736 --> 00:27:27.855 I I would assume that would be more of a commodity cut, a 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5304-1 00:27:27.855 --> 00:27:31.406 business end of things versus a regulatory thing. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5318-0 00:27:31.816 --> 00:27:34.581 They need to have a certain volume to make the trip cost 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5318-1 00:27:34.581 --> 00:27:35.066 effective. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5329-0 00:27:35.216 --> 00:27:36.896 Yes, I guess you'll. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5332-0 00:27:36.906 --> 00:27:40.326 How could the partner can't fix that? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5342-0 00:27:41.276 --> 00:27:43.776 The law requires them to pick up. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5354-0 00:27:43.846 --> 00:27:45.946 They have to pick up, but they could also do. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5364-0 00:27:46.216 --> 00:27:49.906 To make it help, it could help combine some pickups. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5370-0 00:27:49.916 --> 00:27:52.886 Yeah, exactly like help, help facilitate plan routes. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5388-0 00:27:54.856 --> 00:27:57.199 So in that case, accumulate enough for that certain time, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5388-1 00:27:57.199 --> 00:27:57.846 which is saying. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5394-0 00:27:57.976 --> 00:27:58.856 So it's a small volume. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5471-0 00:27:59.876 --> 00:28:03.526 So before the plant closed, because that's kind of been our 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5471-1 00:28:03.526 --> 00:28:07.358 focus, we created a survey and these are the kind of questions 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5471-2 00:28:07.358 --> 00:28:11.130 that we have on the survey to send out to our Members because 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5471-3 00:28:11.130 --> 00:28:14.780 we obviously want to help our Members in any way and that's 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5471-4 00:28:14.780 --> 00:28:18.673 what some of the ideas that we were kicking around in our waste 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5471-5 00:28:18.673 --> 00:28:21.836 blowing stuff is when we see the surveys come back. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5521-0 00:28:22.256 --> 00:28:25.553 Umm, you know if if these are the issues cause could we help 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5521-1 00:28:25.553 --> 00:28:28.742 create milk runs or or around you know see how much volume 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5521-2 00:28:28.742 --> 00:28:32.201 each person has in that type of thing where there's many things 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5521-3 00:28:32.201 --> 00:28:34.796 right up to E waste tires, all kinds of things. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5526-0 00:28:35.076 --> 00:28:36.746 Mattresses were a big one. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5565-0 00:28:37.216 --> 00:28:41.211 So so this is all in a survey that we spent a lot of time and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5565-1 00:28:41.211 --> 00:28:45.205 and and in finances to create and it just right at the finish 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5565-2 00:28:45.205 --> 00:28:46.816 line was ready to go out. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5571-0 00:28:46.946 --> 00:28:48.706 We had to deal with what's happening. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5586-0 00:28:49.476 --> 00:28:54.716 You're going to revamp that now that I I've had some time free 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5586-1 00:28:54.716 --> 00:28:54.966 up. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5590-0 00:28:55.116 --> 00:28:55.316 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5609-0 00:28:55.356 --> 00:29:01.187 So now that that's happened, we're gonna get back to the To 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5609-1 00:29:01.187 --> 00:29:02.936 Do List, which is. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5638-0 00:29:02.946 --> 00:29:06.447 I'm excited about those many things outside of the municipal 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5638-1 00:29:06.447 --> 00:29:10.234 solid waste that we want to help our members with breaking a demo 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5638-2 00:29:10.234 --> 00:29:10.636 degree. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5657-0 00:29:11.966 --> 00:29:14.917 We're especially with our new partner with how aggressive they 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5657-1 00:29:14.917 --> 00:29:16.416 are and and in their background. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5664-0 00:29:16.426 --> 00:29:17.766 We're we're really looking at everything. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5682-0 00:29:19.456 --> 00:29:22.633 It's going to take time, but of course we don't wanna get too 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5682-1 00:29:22.633 --> 00:29:23.556 far over the skis. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5706-0 00:29:24.346 --> 00:29:28.553 Let's get plan and restarted ways back on the floor that 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5706-1 00:29:28.553 --> 00:29:32.096 started really focused on these other problems. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5710-0 00:29:34.266 --> 00:29:35.346 Don't need something to add. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5725-0 00:29:38.206 --> 00:29:39.266 Uh, Mike. Got it. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5731-0 00:29:38.276 --> 00:29:39.696 Is and. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5729-0 00:29:39.426 --> 00:29:40.106 Thanks Jim. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5732-0 00:29:40.146 --> 00:29:40.626 Thanks Mike. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5771-0 00:29:43.896 --> 00:29:47.966 Another topic we've been hearing a little bit about and is more, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5771-1 00:29:47.966 --> 00:29:51.848 I think actually it's all about state but multifamily and the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5771-2 00:29:51.848 --> 00:29:55.166 lack of access for multifamily homes with recycling. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5787-0 00:29:55.176 --> 00:29:57.921 I think he probably more Portland, South Portland, but 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5787-1 00:29:57.921 --> 00:30:00.366 yeah, that's something you guys have dealt with. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5793-0 00:30:00.376 --> 00:30:00.986 What if you? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5795-0 00:30:01.456 --> 00:30:02.186 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5843-0 00:30:02.616 --> 00:30:06.975 So both Portland and South Portland have our joint climate 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5843-1 00:30:06.975 --> 00:30:11.557 action plan, one climate future, and one of our strategies in 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5843-2 00:30:11.557 --> 00:30:15.842 that is to expand multifamily and commercial recycling of 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5843-3 00:30:15.842 --> 00:30:20.202 Portland already does have multifamily unit recycling, but 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5843-4 00:30:20.202 --> 00:30:22.566 South Portland is working on it. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5856-0 00:30:22.636 --> 00:30:25.766 It's definitely something that we'd like to pursue. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5875-0 00:30:26.316 --> 00:30:29.413 I think at this point it's getting everyone on board that's 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5875-1 00:30:29.413 --> 00:30:32.046 that's been the challenge property owners exactly. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5877-0 00:30:32.056 --> 00:30:32.276 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5910-0 00:30:33.096 --> 00:30:39.135 So one of the challenges that Portland faces with that is it's 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5910-1 00:30:39.135 --> 00:30:45.078 in our code to collect and multi families should be providing 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5910-2 00:30:45.078 --> 00:30:47.666 recycling as easy as trash. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5930-0 00:30:47.676 --> 00:30:52.436 However, physical space or collection of the issue? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5947-0 00:30:52.686 --> 00:30:56.326 Yeah, that's why many commercial sized buildings don't and they 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/5947-1 00:30:56.326 --> 00:30:58.316 collect trash and goes to go mean. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6007-0 00:30:58.326 --> 00:31:02.708 And I literally spend time on the phone saying I know it's not 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6007-1 00:31:02.708 --> 00:31:06.672 recycled and I explained the waste of energy process and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6007-2 00:31:06.672 --> 00:31:10.706 like, if you really want to collect, you can collect your 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6007-3 00:31:10.706 --> 00:31:15.296 condo or your apartment and take it and drop it off at Riverside. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6024-0 00:31:15.406 --> 00:31:21.430 But they physically don't have the space in town for recycling 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6024-1 00:31:21.430 --> 00:31:22.386 and trash. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6032-0 00:31:23.856 --> 00:31:25.546 So it's hard to enforce. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6040-0 00:31:26.356 --> 00:31:27.826 I have a question about that too. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6056-0 00:31:28.136 --> 00:31:32.928 Is it the responsibility of like a commercial property manager to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6056-1 00:31:32.928 --> 00:31:35.396 provide for recycling collection? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6078-0 00:31:35.536 --> 00:31:39.406 Because that also requires that commercial entities are offering 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6078-1 00:31:39.406 --> 00:31:43.098 recycling, like they're testing, callers have to also provide 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6078-2 00:31:43.098 --> 00:31:43.396 that. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6113-0 00:31:43.756 --> 00:31:47.066 So if they're not doing that right now, then they can't 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6113-1 00:31:47.066 --> 00:31:50.671 provide for the because I have an existing contract with all 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6113-2 00:31:50.671 --> 00:31:52.326 the tonnage going SAT Excel. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6125-0 00:31:52.336 --> 00:31:56.976 So I guess that adds another added layer of complication. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6136-0 00:31:57.026 --> 00:31:59.886 It does totality not kind of fitting the tab. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6162-0 00:31:59.896 --> 00:32:04.749 That would be a property manager obligation and they do we do 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6162-1 00:32:04.749 --> 00:32:09.446 license the waste dollars and we have now categorized them. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6166-0 00:32:09.506 --> 00:32:11.046 I have categorized them. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6175-0 00:32:11.146 --> 00:32:12.356 I'm very happy about this. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6206-0 00:32:12.706 --> 00:32:16.092 I thought John collars, organics, trash and dumpster 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6206-1 00:32:16.092 --> 00:32:19.862 rentals and then trash and recycling folks, and it's based 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6206-2 00:32:19.862 --> 00:32:21.906 on what their business model is. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6233-0 00:32:22.286 --> 00:32:28.226 So it helps businesses multi use commercial properties, shop for 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6233-1 00:32:28.226 --> 00:32:32.886 the right type of waste management that they need. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6276-0 00:32:33.296 --> 00:32:36.789 But it's really it's the footprint size and then if 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6276-1 00:32:36.789 --> 00:32:41.021 somebody's having an issue, they do call around and I let them 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6276-2 00:32:41.021 --> 00:32:44.918 know, you know, your condo association will have the fees 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6276-3 00:32:44.918 --> 00:32:47.336 that you've been playing for waste. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6319-0 00:32:47.346 --> 00:32:51.843 So you could get some estimates and whatever, but it is 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6319-1 00:32:51.843 --> 00:32:56.660 inforcements hard when we say it's supposed to be as easily 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6319-2 00:32:56.660 --> 00:33:01.639 accessible and like some company might provide only cardboard 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6319-3 00:33:01.639 --> 00:33:03.566 recycling in a building. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6333-0 00:33:03.576 --> 00:33:06.858 And I'm like, but that is meeting a recycling. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6333-1 00:33:06.858 --> 00:33:07.836 Accessibility. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6389-0 00:33:07.846 --> 00:33:12.001 Yes, you're not recycling all items, but cardboard is 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6389-1 00:33:12.001 --> 00:33:16.771 recyclable and you're building, so it's it's a catch 22 and a 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6389-2 00:33:16.771 --> 00:33:21.618 lot of it has been education on what the waste to energy plant 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6389-3 00:33:21.618 --> 00:33:25.926 is doing versus where the recycling commodities or not. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6393-0 00:33:26.576 --> 00:33:28.266 Vanessa, can you introduce yourself? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6396-0 00:33:28.356 --> 00:33:28.816 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6414-0 00:33:28.876 --> 00:33:32.276 Yeah, Vanessa, very sustainable mean outreach coordinator for 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6414-1 00:33:32.276 --> 00:33:33.866 NCM and work on waste policy. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6453-0 00:33:34.336 --> 00:33:37.869 So I was just thinking about that in terms of the PR also and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6453-1 00:33:37.869 --> 00:33:41.516 municipalities have an incentive potentially to pick up the tab 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6453-2 00:33:41.516 --> 00:33:45.049 on the recycling because that could ultimately result in more 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6453-3 00:33:45.049 --> 00:33:46.986 reimbursement or these qualities. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6501-0 00:33:46.996 --> 00:33:50.161 So I just wanted to throw that out there as a potential 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6501-1 00:33:50.161 --> 00:33:53.608 opportunity, but I could see right now with haulers, there's 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6501-2 00:33:53.608 --> 00:33:57.055 a financial disincentive to provide recycling and I see that 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6501-3 00:33:57.055 --> 00:34:00.106 adding some complication to making that accessible to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6501-4 00:34:00.106 --> 00:34:01.406 residents in the state. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6524-0 00:34:04.096 --> 00:34:07.084 Yeah, I'm thinking of my alliance chat and then saying on 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6524-1 00:34:07.084 --> 00:34:08.836 my Portland Suffern resident hat. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6563-0 00:34:09.636 --> 00:34:12.353 But I've lived in Portland for many years and recently 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6563-1 00:34:12.353 --> 00:34:15.416 experienced this or living in multifamily, recorded it to the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6563-2 00:34:15.416 --> 00:34:18.628 city again and again, and there was only so much that they could 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6563-3 00:34:18.628 --> 00:34:18.776 do. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6580-0 00:34:18.786 --> 00:34:21.209 And then there was kind of fear of, like, retaliation from the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6580-1 00:34:21.209 --> 00:34:22.286 property management company. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6589-0 00:34:22.296 --> 00:34:23.376 Who was trying to find out? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6601-0 00:34:24.476 --> 00:34:25.926 Who I was, who was reporting them. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6662-0 00:34:27.346 --> 00:34:31.233 And then again recently and it's in South Portland too, and maybe 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6662-1 00:34:31.233 --> 00:34:34.943 I've been talking to you, I'm talking to someone that's you to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6662-2 00:34:34.943 --> 00:34:38.770 try and figure this out because it's the second time in the last 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6662-3 00:34:38.770 --> 00:34:42.363 five years where I've have not had access to recycling in my 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6662-4 00:34:42.363 --> 00:34:42.716 house. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6688-0 00:34:42.726 --> 00:34:47.311 So, but anyway, it's just kind of echoing in sharing another 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6688-1 00:34:47.311 --> 00:34:49.716 story of the struggle to it has. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6691-0 00:34:50.186 --> 00:34:51.166 The struggle is real. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6711-0 00:34:51.176 --> 00:34:54.805 Yeah, the struggle is real and many calls about that in my long 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6711-1 00:34:54.805 --> 00:34:57.016 standing career hacking about garbage. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6713-0 00:34:57.026 --> 00:34:57.596 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6745-0 00:34:58.046 --> 00:35:01.138 To see all this recyclable, all this material going straight to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6745-1 00:35:01.138 --> 00:35:04.037 the trash and you're not the only resident that wants to do 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6745-2 00:35:04.037 --> 00:35:06.646 the right thing, but literally can't where they live. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6771-0 00:35:08.836 --> 00:35:12.782 How about for new construction that you know ordinances include 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6771-1 00:35:12.782 --> 00:35:15.556 space for recycling as well as waste pickup? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6797-0 00:35:16.496 --> 00:35:19.338 I mean, it's not going to handle the, you know, grandfathers 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6797-1 00:35:19.338 --> 00:35:22.040 stuff, but right, I'm at least we'd be going in the right 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6797-2 00:35:22.040 --> 00:35:22.506 direction. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6801-0 00:35:22.756 --> 00:35:23.846 That would be nice. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6821-0 00:35:24.316 --> 00:35:29.103 We could also be going to, you know, a A roll off type 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6821-1 00:35:29.103 --> 00:35:29.886 scenario. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6852-0 00:35:29.896 --> 00:35:33.832 Just like with the waist, but the recycling, as long as 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6852-1 00:35:33.832 --> 00:35:38.190 somebody has control over that, it's not being filled up with 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6852-2 00:35:38.190 --> 00:35:39.666 waste a single sword. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6859-0 00:35:39.676 --> 00:35:40.286 It doesn't matter. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6875-0 00:35:40.296 --> 00:35:43.326 You put it all in one bin so you can put it all in one container. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6885-0 00:35:43.716 --> 00:35:45.986 Tactical could be a compact. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6894-0 00:35:47.346 --> 00:35:49.216 We have Elena and then Tony. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6930-0 00:35:50.686 --> 00:35:54.113 I was just going to ask if they make containers that have that 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6930-1 00:35:54.113 --> 00:35:57.376 are either smaller so that you could have both or that have 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6930-2 00:35:57.376 --> 00:35:58.736 both like 2 compartments. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6935-0 00:36:00.146 --> 00:36:00.336 Sure. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6944-0 00:36:00.316 --> 00:36:01.706 Does anyone aware of any containers? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6948-0 00:36:02.956 --> 00:36:04.906 Haven't made nothing else? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6955-0 00:36:04.916 --> 00:36:06.116 Is 10 yard containers. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6980-0 00:36:06.126 --> 00:36:09.664 This 40 yard contains also have all kinds of sizes and then 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6980-1 00:36:09.664 --> 00:36:12.436 structure thinking we should work around that. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6987-0 00:36:12.956 --> 00:36:13.786 I think that's a lot of. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6992-0 00:36:16.176 --> 00:36:16.966 Tony or on? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/6997-0 00:36:19.576 --> 00:36:20.526 Thanks, Jim. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7055-0 00:36:20.876 --> 00:36:25.367 One of the come advantages I think that the facility in 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7055-1 00:36:25.367 --> 00:36:30.420 Hamden has is I'm former public works director for the town of 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7055-2 00:36:30.420 --> 00:36:35.553 Mount Desert and Back when the facility opened, we changed from 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7055-3 00:36:35.553 --> 00:36:40.526 sorting our recyclables to what we was called one bin all in. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7081-0 00:36:41.596 --> 00:36:47.065 And like a lot of towns in state of Maine Week, you did not come 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7081-1 00:36:47.065 --> 00:36:51.355 anywhere near the the requirement of 50% recycling 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7081-2 00:36:51.355 --> 00:36:51.776 rate. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7116-0 00:36:52.186 --> 00:36:56.790 We are always down around 1314% and part of that was because you 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7116-1 00:36:56.790 --> 00:37:00.969 could include construction demolition debris and we gotta, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7116-2 00:37:00.969 --> 00:37:04.086 I believe, 1/2 percent for the bottle Bill. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7125-0 00:37:05.486 --> 00:37:09.776 So we switched to the one bin all in and the. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7159-0 00:37:10.336 --> 00:37:14.956 You know, operators of the facility and I've seen it work, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7159-1 00:37:14.956 --> 00:37:19.655 matter of fact, I believe Mike saw it last week or the week 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7159-2 00:37:19.655 --> 00:37:21.456 before it was fired up. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7167-0 00:37:21.536 --> 00:37:21.836 No. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7199-0 00:37:21.686 --> 00:37:28.406 It works, it sorts the materials and I would anticipate the same 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7199-1 00:37:28.406 --> 00:37:34.712 one bin all in being offered once we're up and full bore and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7194-0 00:37:33.956 --> 00:37:34.276 What? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7199-2 00:37:34.712 --> 00:37:36.676 the recycling rate. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7209-0 00:37:36.856 --> 00:37:36.986 The. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7232-0 00:37:36.926 --> 00:37:43.002 Right now the the permit has written right in at 50% and the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7232-1 00:37:43.002 --> 00:37:48.680 owners are shooting for 60708090 just as much as humanly 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7232-2 00:37:48.680 --> 00:37:49.576 possible. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7251-0 00:37:50.516 --> 00:37:53.986 So I believe that that we have a good, good plan in place. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7242-0 00:37:50.946 --> 00:37:51.126 So. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7257-0 00:37:54.546 --> 00:37:54.846 These. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7265-0 00:37:55.326 --> 00:37:58.556 Good design in place to pull those materials out. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7267-0 00:37:57.056 --> 00:37:57.426 The. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7269-0 00:37:59.306 --> 00:37:59.656 Thank you. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7271-0 00:38:01.726 --> 00:38:02.126 Based on. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7324-0 00:38:07.256 --> 00:38:11.503 One thing I've kind of curious about just hearing about haulers 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7324-1 00:38:11.503 --> 00:38:15.751 and the different relationships and something that we've talked 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7324-2 00:38:15.751 --> 00:38:20.064 about in the apartment is could contracts could better, stronger 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7324-3 00:38:20.064 --> 00:38:23.714 contracts that require haulers to, for example provide 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7324-4 00:38:23.714 --> 00:38:26.966 recycling or take material to specific donation. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7351-0 00:38:27.916 --> 00:38:31.305 Wow, we can't talk right now to a specific location to be 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7351-1 00:38:31.305 --> 00:38:34.869 recycled to ensure that things are actually getting properly 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7351-2 00:38:34.869 --> 00:38:35.336 managed. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7370-0 00:38:35.346 --> 00:38:39.044 Because you know, you heard people that call up and say, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7370-1 00:38:39.044 --> 00:38:42.806 well, the recycling truck took my trash and my recycling. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7460-0 00:38:42.816 --> 00:38:46.109 I don't think my recycling is actually getting recycled, so 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7460-1 00:38:46.109 --> 00:38:49.292 could there be something communist polity and a hauler to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7460-2 00:38:49.292 --> 00:38:52.805 just ensure that the materials going where the town wants it to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7460-3 00:38:52.805 --> 00:38:55.659 go and also to ensure that residents have access to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7460-4 00:38:55.659 --> 00:38:59.062 whatever services they just tell them wants to make sure that 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7460-5 00:38:59.062 --> 00:39:02.465 they're provided like Internet they have recycling as well as 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7460-6 00:39:02.465 --> 00:39:05.868 trash disposal does have that in our ways taller contract and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7460-7 00:39:05.868 --> 00:39:06.636 their license. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7462-0 00:39:06.886 --> 00:39:07.156 OK. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7537-0 00:39:07.166 --> 00:39:12.035 But they do take the waste from Portland that they haul to Eco 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7537-1 00:39:12.035 --> 00:39:16.980 Maine as part of, and a few of them are out of, you know, I got 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7537-2 00:39:16.980 --> 00:39:21.540 hollers out in Hollis and Gray and all around, but there's 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7537-3 00:39:21.540 --> 00:39:26.254 servicing in Portland, and it has been a surprise to some of 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7537-4 00:39:26.254 --> 00:39:31.045 the newer ones that that's part of their license to Paul to a 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7537-5 00:39:31.045 --> 00:39:32.436 specific location. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7550-0 00:39:32.726 --> 00:39:35.746 So I'm thinking we've had some that's been going out of. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7566-0 00:39:37.006 --> 00:39:41.714 Portland, that now that they are fully licensed, will be going to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7566-1 00:39:41.714 --> 00:39:42.356 be going. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7580-0 00:39:42.826 --> 00:39:46.016 So it's a licensing plan program that allows for that. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7582-0 00:39:46.616 --> 00:39:47.106 Just police. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7590-0 00:39:48.826 --> 00:39:51.816 Something that I'm not. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7614-0 00:39:51.856 --> 00:39:56.472 I only know everybody has a license program around here and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7614-1 00:39:56.472 --> 00:39:59.396 his other main, but I don't know how. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7626-0 00:39:59.446 --> 00:40:02.836 Who is specific to where it gets all to? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7656-0 00:40:03.306 --> 00:40:07.313 Because I know when we get recycling reports, a lot of 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7656-1 00:40:07.313 --> 00:40:11.757 small towns have no idea where exactly what's the main towns 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7656-2 00:40:11.757 --> 00:40:11.976 or. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7669-0 00:40:12.506 --> 00:40:15.356 Yeah, there's, I mean, there's a flow control law. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7687-0 00:40:15.426 --> 00:40:19.463 So you know when our entity was created statutorily, these 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7687-1 00:40:19.463 --> 00:40:21.926 communities have to be bringing it. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7694-0 00:40:21.936 --> 00:40:23.986 But the question I guess is, are they? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7697-0 00:40:24.146 --> 00:40:24.326 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7714-0 00:40:25.676 --> 00:40:28.164 And and have we verified that I think you're talking about two 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7714-1 00:40:28.164 --> 00:40:28.836 different things? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7718-0 00:40:29.206 --> 00:40:29.716 Ohm. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7748-0 00:40:30.346 --> 00:40:35.390 So most municipal contracts, our contracting, they waste facility 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7748-1 00:40:35.390 --> 00:40:39.746 and that that holler has to haul to that waste facility. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7779-0 00:40:41.446 --> 00:40:45.375 But I think what you're asking is does the hall or have the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7779-1 00:40:45.375 --> 00:40:48.976 offer recycling pickup and hall to a certain location? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7781-0 00:40:49.146 --> 00:40:49.586 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7783-0 00:40:49.596 --> 00:40:50.016 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7788-0 00:40:50.066 --> 00:40:51.096 So I yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7796-0 00:40:51.166 --> 00:40:53.086 And can that be done via the contracts? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7816-0 00:40:53.096 --> 00:40:56.010 That's the most collies licensing a hauler that we say 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7816-1 00:40:56.010 --> 00:40:57.546 or maybe it's not a contract. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7830-0 00:40:57.606 --> 00:40:59.966 You're saying it's not a contract so built within the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7830-1 00:40:59.966 --> 00:41:00.316 license. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7859-0 00:41:00.446 --> 00:41:05.396 Most recycling contracts with the disparities for curbside is 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7859-1 00:41:05.396 --> 00:41:10.107 a separate contract with in in my area, outside of the MSW 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7859-2 00:41:10.107 --> 00:41:10.746 culture. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7926-0 00:41:11.426 --> 00:41:15.862 And that's where they they offer and all, uh, but and then they 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7926-1 00:41:15.862 --> 00:41:20.160 would and I believe in those contracting in the hall or would 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7926-2 00:41:20.160 --> 00:41:24.597 pick the recycling facility or because they're just there's not 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7926-3 00:41:24.597 --> 00:41:29.172 many, you know in our area until we reopen to halt that's why the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7926-4 00:41:29.172 --> 00:41:30.766 rates going up so high. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7941-0 00:41:31.936 --> 00:41:36.406 But most most common municipal contracts are for MSW in in in. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7947-0 00:41:36.416 --> 00:41:40.016 This palette does usually dictate where that's going. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7968-0 00:41:42.996 --> 00:41:46.852 I will comment that there are split body trucks where 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/7968-1 00:41:46.852 --> 00:41:49.566 recycling and trash come in together. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8004-0 00:41:50.016 --> 00:41:53.233 And a lot of the times, you know, residents get confused 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8004-1 00:41:53.233 --> 00:41:56.845 when they see one vehicle being used for two purposes, but they 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8004-2 00:41:56.845 --> 00:42:00.006 don't know that it's going over the scale twice, right. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8014-0 00:42:00.016 --> 00:42:01.856 You don't want to say on the other end. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8017-0 00:42:01.866 --> 00:42:02.626 Yeah, exactly. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8026-0 00:42:02.636 --> 00:42:03.646 Just they don't see that. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8068-0 00:42:04.236 --> 00:42:07.239 And and there I I ran a hauling division with the trucks and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8068-1 00:42:07.239 --> 00:42:10.390 they're actually like one of the biggest phone calls we got was 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8068-2 00:42:10.390 --> 00:42:13.394 on recycling week because it said they took my trash into my 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8068-3 00:42:13.394 --> 00:42:13.886 container. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8084-0 00:42:14.046 --> 00:42:18.903 The truck does have split body right down the middle, the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8084-1 00:42:18.903 --> 00:42:19.406 Elena. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8102-0 00:42:22.626 --> 00:42:25.130 Umm I have a question for the municipalities or or anyone 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8102-1 00:42:25.130 --> 00:42:25.346 else. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8114-0 00:42:25.356 --> 00:42:28.707 Who knows when municipalities are looking to write the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8114-1 00:42:28.707 --> 00:42:29.316 contracts? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8130-0 00:42:29.606 --> 00:42:33.875 Do you tend to borrow from another town, or do you have 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8130-1 00:42:33.875 --> 00:42:35.476 lawyers that do them? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8137-0 00:42:35.486 --> 00:42:37.376 Or do you do them without lawyers? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8142-0 00:42:37.516 --> 00:42:38.766 How does that process work? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8151-0 00:42:41.766 --> 00:42:43.696 And my experience. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8163-0 00:42:43.786 --> 00:42:47.236 Usually the hauler presents the misspelling with a contract. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8176-0 00:42:47.246 --> 00:42:50.187 The contracts from the hauler and then they negotiate from 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8176-1 00:42:50.187 --> 00:42:50.436 that. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8220-0 00:42:50.446 --> 00:42:54.432 I'm I'm showing this guys running through their legal but 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8220-1 00:42:54.432 --> 00:42:58.761 in my experience for a MSW you contract it comes from the hall 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8220-2 00:42:58.761 --> 00:43:02.816 because usually these contracts with just for the hauling. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8253-0 00:43:03.246 --> 00:43:06.981 The municipality has an account for the waste and like with the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8253-1 00:43:06.981 --> 00:43:10.250 MRC, you know they're all contracted through us for the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8253-2 00:43:10.250 --> 00:43:12.526 ways, but we don't do anything holler. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8262-0 00:43:14.346 --> 00:43:15.726 So it's not a contract. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8270-0 00:43:15.736 --> 00:43:18.316 Usually is disposal of the waste that be. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8285-0 00:43:18.326 --> 00:43:21.666 For that, it's just for the hall and whatever their collection. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8290-0 00:43:23.196 --> 00:43:24.186 Is he coming for that? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8300-0 00:43:24.916 --> 00:43:26.896 The communities arrange their own home. Yes. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8308-0 00:43:26.906 --> 00:43:28.406 Yeah, we, we do know, Holly. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8310-0 00:43:28.476 --> 00:43:28.896 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8319-0 00:43:29.336 --> 00:43:31.296 So it has to come to us somehow. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8345-0 00:43:34.356 --> 00:43:36.947 It's like this is something that needs to fit to the plant 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8345-1 00:43:36.947 --> 00:43:39.406 somewhere, but I feel like we need more information to. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8357-0 00:43:40.676 --> 00:43:42.946 So hopefully we can get some good written comments. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8369-0 00:43:43.816 --> 00:43:47.256 I think that's a good start or question or comment. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8368-0 00:43:44.366 --> 00:43:44.696 Kick. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8380-0 00:43:47.806 --> 00:43:49.126 Because it is something that isn't. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8409-0 00:43:49.136 --> 00:43:52.895 This is the thing I got my office at Westbrook and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8409-1 00:43:52.895 --> 00:43:57.612 Westbrook's got a lot of a multi unit looking up places to time 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8409-2 00:43:57.612 --> 00:43:59.086 and yeah, they have. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8441-0 00:43:59.156 --> 00:44:01.772 They, you know, they have recycling and trash bins, but I 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8441-1 00:44:01.772 --> 00:44:04.703 don't live in one of them, so I don't know how it works, but I I 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8441-2 00:44:04.703 --> 00:44:06.056 know it's got to be a problem. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8461-0 00:44:07.366 --> 00:44:10.787 Be right back down the street and you'll see you know, 15 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8461-1 00:44:10.787 --> 00:44:12.556 trash cans, you know, roll up. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8464-0 00:44:12.566 --> 00:44:12.826 Roll. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8467-0 00:44:12.836 --> 00:44:14.096 You know no. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8477-0 00:44:14.406 --> 00:44:16.856 So there's orders not up there. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8504-0 00:44:17.496 --> 00:44:21.697 I'm not sure where they put them all when they're not up and be 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8504-1 00:44:21.697 --> 00:44:24.716 collected, so it's just a physical issue too. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8508-0 00:44:25.226 --> 00:44:26.046 Jackie Elliott. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8513-0 00:44:27.846 --> 00:44:28.486 Thank you. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8547-0 00:44:29.166 --> 00:44:35.528 Umm, let me first say it's encouraging to hear the serious 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8519-0 00:44:29.176 --> 00:44:29.406 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8533-0 00:44:34.386 --> 00:44:35.736 Yeah, 8. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8547-1 00:44:35.528 --> 00:44:41.782 efforts that are being put forth to find solutions in our 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8547-2 00:44:41.782 --> 00:44:43.076 communities. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8553-0 00:44:41.976 --> 00:44:42.196 This. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8570-0 00:44:44.006 --> 00:44:44.436 Umm. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8610-0 00:44:45.316 --> 00:44:50.586 And I just kind of like to take an overview, look at things 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8610-1 00:44:50.586 --> 00:44:56.121 here, little concerned that we might be missing the forest for 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8610-2 00:44:56.121 --> 00:45:01.391 the trees that we're focusing on and we've entered into the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8610-3 00:45:01.391 --> 00:45:06.662 terrain of contracts around, you know, waste collection and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8610-4 00:45:06.662 --> 00:45:09.736 processing and so on and so forth. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8624-0 00:45:10.846 --> 00:45:15.036 Which brings us naturally to the topic of Casella waste systems. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8627-0 00:45:15.906 --> 00:45:17.516 Umm, who? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8633-0 00:45:17.586 --> 00:45:19.346 Pretty much has a monopolized. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8691-0 00:45:20.586 --> 00:45:24.889 Situation in our state around all of those operations and I 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8691-1 00:45:24.889 --> 00:45:29.480 just kind of like to broaden the view a bit, remind people that 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8691-2 00:45:29.480 --> 00:45:33.783 last spring, Cassella purported there was a sludge disposal 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8691-3 00:45:33.783 --> 00:45:38.087 crisis at the Juniper Ridge Landfill owned by the state and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8691-4 00:45:38.087 --> 00:45:39.306 operated by them. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8749-0 00:45:40.656 --> 00:45:43.867 And the response to that was Casella pressured the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8749-1 00:45:43.867 --> 00:45:47.331 legislature and the department and managed to rollback 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8749-2 00:45:47.331 --> 00:45:51.361 legislative gains that had been made in the previous session to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8749-3 00:45:51.361 --> 00:45:55.454 staunch the influx about a state waste that's consuming disposal 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8749-4 00:45:55.454 --> 00:45:59.358 capacity at JRL, which is by statute supposed to be there for 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8749-5 00:45:59.358 --> 00:46:00.806 Maine, generated waste. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8784-0 00:46:01.956 --> 00:46:05.938 Umm, it is currently being reported that we are in a 2 year 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8784-1 00:46:05.938 --> 00:46:09.853 window of time where we can develop a sustainable solution 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8784-2 00:46:09.853 --> 00:46:11.446 for our sludge disposal. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8821-0 00:46:12.796 --> 00:46:18.148 But tending these DEP sessions, it has become apparent to me 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8806-0 00:46:15.976 --> 00:46:16.226 Yes. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8821-1 00:46:18.148 --> 00:46:23.763 that there might be an appetite for additional rollbacks on our 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8821-2 00:46:23.763 --> 00:46:27.536 proactive ban on land spreading of sludge. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8827-0 00:46:28.136 --> 00:46:30.046 That was accomplished. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8867-0 00:46:30.196 --> 00:46:35.297 Importantly, umm, and it was even purported by Mr Weld, I 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8867-1 00:46:35.297 --> 00:46:40.662 believe, umm, that the land spreading of sludge could resume 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8867-2 00:46:40.662 --> 00:46:46.466 if there was an effective way of removing P fast from the fledge. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8905-0 00:46:47.216 --> 00:46:51.213 Ohh, that completely ignores the hazards posed by other toxics 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8905-1 00:46:51.213 --> 00:46:55.083 that are found in the sledge products, such as having mental 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8898-0 00:46:53.736 --> 00:46:53.976 Yes. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8905-2 00:46:55.083 --> 00:46:56.986 metals, mercury, lead, dioxin. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8938-0 00:46:57.466 --> 00:47:00.580 These toxins, built up in the environment and the food chain, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8938-1 00:47:00.580 --> 00:47:03.542 threaten human health and the environment, and it has been 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8938-2 00:47:03.542 --> 00:47:06.656 established that there is no safe level of exposure for lead. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8983-0 00:47:06.666 --> 00:47:12.803 For instance, I'm concerned also that there appears to be an 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8952-0 00:47:10.706 --> 00:47:10.966 Right. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8983-1 00:47:12.803 --> 00:47:18.437 appetite to port and pursue latest I what I refer to as 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8983-2 00:47:18.437 --> 00:47:24.070 magic Tech Hosters who come along with ways to make our 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8983-3 00:47:24.070 --> 00:47:26.686 waste magically disappear. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/8981-0 00:47:25.016 --> 00:47:25.326 You. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9004-0 00:47:27.536 --> 00:47:31.583 Umm, some of those are being brought in under the title of 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9004-1 00:47:31.583 --> 00:47:32.886 advanced Recycling. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9065-0 00:47:32.896 --> 00:47:38.344 At this point, the HI Mike, the newly resurrected operations at 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9008-0 00:47:34.556 --> 00:47:35.356 OK, no. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9065-1 00:47:38.344 --> 00:47:43.877 the MRC MRC facility in Hamden, whole concerns for many of us as 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9065-2 00:47:43.877 --> 00:47:49.495 citizens because we would prefer to see Main make serious efforts 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9065-3 00:47:49.495 --> 00:47:53.751 of framing our materials management approach with 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9065-4 00:47:53.751 --> 00:47:56.986 legitimate 0 waste goals and actions. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9067-0 00:47:58.266 --> 00:47:58.856 Umm. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9103-0 00:47:59.006 --> 00:48:03.624 And then just to kind of put a little more pertinent context 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9103-1 00:48:03.624 --> 00:48:08.545 around things, we experienced a recent fire JRL which to current 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9103-2 00:48:08.545 --> 00:48:10.816 knowledge is of unknown cause. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9105-0 00:48:11.366 --> 00:48:12.006 Mine. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9127-0 00:48:12.066 --> 00:48:15.336 To my knowledge, there's no certifiable report of the extent 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9111-0 00:48:12.296 --> 00:48:12.616 Thank you. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9127-1 00:48:15.336 --> 00:48:17.266 of damage that might have occurred. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9134-0 00:48:17.966 --> 00:48:19.706 Right, what? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9151-0 00:48:18.576 --> 00:48:24.739 I'm Kirk has ceased operations on the auction, has been put off 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9151-1 00:48:24.739 --> 00:48:28.206 till at least the end of the month. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9169-0 00:48:28.576 --> 00:48:32.788 The last I was aware waste was still gathering on the tipping 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9161-0 00:48:29.986 --> 00:48:30.176 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9169-1 00:48:32.788 --> 00:48:33.196 floor. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9207-0 00:48:34.536 --> 00:48:38.848 And then the recent several days, we have twice that we are 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9207-1 00:48:38.848 --> 00:48:43.376 aware of experienced what might be iodine emissions of unknown 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9207-2 00:48:43.376 --> 00:48:46.466 origin pouring from the stack of eco main. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9232-0 00:48:46.736 --> 00:48:50.830 We have been assured that no harm has occurred because the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9226-0 00:48:50.176 --> 00:48:50.396 Right. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9232-1 00:48:50.830 --> 00:48:54.646 emissions were released from the eco mains toss stack. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9244-0 00:48:54.736 --> 00:48:56.906 Well, that's another whole argument in my book. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9254-0 00:48:58.076 --> 00:49:01.596 A purple haze has made the invisible visible. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9293-0 00:49:03.086 --> 00:49:07.592 A narrative is forming out there that it might be that folks are 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9293-1 00:49:07.592 --> 00:49:11.751 dumping the wrong things in their kitchen trash, and that's 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9293-2 00:49:11.751 --> 00:49:13.276 why there's a problem. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9366-0 00:49:14.356 --> 00:49:18.807 Again, I would argue that besides the purple smoke that 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9303-0 00:49:16.426 --> 00:49:16.566 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9366-1 00:49:18.807 --> 00:49:23.495 we're seeing in the sky, I believe what is also visible is 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9366-2 00:49:23.495 --> 00:49:27.787 that Maine is quickly approaching a crisis point when 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9366-3 00:49:27.787 --> 00:49:31.840 materials management that despite some of the very 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9366-4 00:49:31.840 --> 00:49:36.768 progressive things that we've put in place, it's all well and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9366-5 00:49:36.768 --> 00:49:41.218 good to talk about the particulars of infrastructure on 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9366-6 00:49:41.218 --> 00:49:43.046 the back end of things. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9372-0 00:49:43.256 --> 00:49:43.446 This. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9400-0 00:49:43.756 --> 00:49:49.274 But I would really like to see some focus go on the front end 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9400-1 00:49:49.274 --> 00:49:54.613 of the discussion of dealing with things before they end up 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9400-2 00:49:54.613 --> 00:49:57.016 being our choices as waste. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9416-0 00:49:58.326 --> 00:49:58.866 Thank you. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9441-0 00:50:00.686 --> 00:50:04.074 Talk about ways to reduce the top of our hierarchy, risking 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9441-1 00:50:04.074 --> 00:50:07.406 getting through some of these other questions, but we will 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9441-2 00:50:07.406 --> 00:50:10.681 definitely be talking about waste reduction and reuse and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9441-3 00:50:10.681 --> 00:50:11.076 repair. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9457-0 00:50:11.086 --> 00:50:16.806 Those are important topics for the plan and thank you. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9455-0 00:50:15.126 --> 00:50:15.626 Thank you. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9486-0 00:50:18.016 --> 00:50:22.765 Umm, so actually that's a good Segway into her next talking 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9486-1 00:50:22.765 --> 00:50:26.406 point, although it isn't quite that specific. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9492-0 00:50:26.486 --> 00:50:26.586 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9505-0 00:50:27.766 --> 00:50:31.778 If you had greater funding for your community or your business, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9505-1 00:50:31.778 --> 00:50:32.656 what have you? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9551-0 00:50:32.846 --> 00:50:36.680 How would you invest it and what would be an ideal management 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9551-1 00:50:36.680 --> 00:50:40.515 system if we had unlimited money to put programs in place for 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9551-2 00:50:40.515 --> 00:50:44.597 managing materials higher up the heart hierarchy for doing better 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9551-3 00:50:44.597 --> 00:50:47.256 with our infrastructure for you know what? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9557-0 00:50:47.266 --> 00:50:48.236 What would it look like? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9572-0 00:50:48.246 --> 00:50:51.256 So just just kind of some thoughts and visions for. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9592-0 00:50:55.136 --> 00:50:58.344 If you feel like sharing it is a big question, we can narrow it 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9592-1 00:50:58.344 --> 00:50:59.296 down if that helps. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9597-0 00:50:59.356 --> 00:50:59.766 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9604-0 00:50:59.776 --> 00:51:02.386 I mean reuse infrastructure would be huge. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9618-0 00:51:02.396 --> 00:51:05.959 Yeah, I mean, Washington industrial washing stations 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9618-1 00:51:05.959 --> 00:51:07.236 would be excellent. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9635-0 00:51:07.596 --> 00:51:11.375 Yeah, I think South Portland has been focusing a lot on food 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9635-1 00:51:11.375 --> 00:51:12.366 waste diversion. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9649-0 00:51:12.376 --> 00:51:14.656 I know it's still not that high up on hierarchy, but. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9661-0 00:51:16.136 --> 00:51:19.372 Funding just definitely been what's prevented us from moving 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9661-1 00:51:19.372 --> 00:51:19.796 forward. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9755-0 00:51:24.666 --> 00:51:28.510 So just wanted to mention too, in case if people aren't aware 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9755-1 00:51:28.510 --> 00:51:31.857 that the bottle Bill modernization active just passed 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9755-2 00:51:31.857 --> 00:51:35.329 the asset or gym, Brian could speak to this better, but 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9755-3 00:51:35.329 --> 00:51:38.863 there's actually gonna be funding set aside specifically 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9755-4 00:51:38.863 --> 00:51:42.707 for refillables and I don't know what do you want funding set 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9755-5 00:51:42.707 --> 00:51:46.612 aside to do a study to kind of look into or a fillable program 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9755-6 00:51:46.612 --> 00:51:50.456 and how we could what kind of infrastructure we would need to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9755-7 00:51:50.456 --> 00:51:52.316 get something like that going. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9776-0 00:51:53.966 --> 00:51:56.520 So that's pretty exciting because that could have that 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9776-1 00:51:56.520 --> 00:51:58.656 could have big implications across the state. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9795-0 00:51:58.826 --> 00:52:02.630 Glasses are heavy material, so it's a lot better to refill it 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9795-1 00:52:02.630 --> 00:52:03.796 than to recycle it. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9823-0 00:52:03.806 --> 00:52:07.139 And frankly, the recycling options are pretty limited for 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9823-1 00:52:07.139 --> 00:52:10.702 glass in the region anyway, so it's some potential incentives 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9823-2 00:52:10.702 --> 00:52:12.196 and CPR for reuse as well. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9827-0 00:52:12.306 --> 00:52:12.496 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9885-0 00:52:14.416 --> 00:52:19.716 I'm not a municipality, but I go out and see a lot of transfer 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9885-1 00:52:19.716 --> 00:52:25.016 stations that municipalities and usually that's the last place 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9885-2 00:52:25.016 --> 00:52:29.979 that gets going to kind of funding a lot of the, you know, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9885-3 00:52:29.979 --> 00:52:35.111 basic infrastructure at the transfer stations and the roads, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9885-4 00:52:35.111 --> 00:52:39.906 the signage on educating the transfer station operators. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9902-0 00:52:41.546 --> 00:52:46.212 I can see a lot of money, just very basic educational 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9902-1 00:52:46.212 --> 00:52:47.076 materials. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9910-0 00:52:47.566 --> 00:52:49.416 For instance, I kind of playing around with. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9929-0 00:52:49.426 --> 00:52:52.827 What about some kind of sheet to that could be, you know, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9929-1 00:52:52.827 --> 00:52:54.996 customized to each transfer station. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9950-0 00:52:55.006 --> 00:52:59.356 So if someone walks in and says I have X waist, you guys don't 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9950-1 00:52:59.356 --> 00:53:00.046 accept it. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9971-0 00:53:00.056 --> 00:53:02.729 We're going to do with it the transfer station operator should 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9971-1 00:53:02.729 --> 00:53:04.596 be able to refer them right then and there. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9980-0 00:53:05.286 --> 00:53:07.266 You know, this is where you can take it. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9989-0 00:53:08.316 --> 00:53:10.066 Maybe that's something we could help with too. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/9992-0 00:53:10.136 --> 00:53:11.006 Yeah, exactly. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10004-0 00:53:11.136 --> 00:53:13.446 Yeah, because The thing is that I found it. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10008-0 00:53:13.456 --> 00:53:14.506 It's not easy. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10023-0 00:53:14.556 --> 00:53:17.477 People won't do it, and that's the public and that's the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10023-1 00:53:17.477 --> 00:53:17.836 output. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10033-0 00:53:19.006 --> 00:53:21.176 Sorry, we got to echo that obviously not. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10094-0 00:53:21.466 --> 00:53:24.689 We just tell you what I do waste management trainings for staff 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10094-1 00:53:24.689 --> 00:53:27.610 across our company and one of the big takeaways that I've 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10094-2 00:53:27.610 --> 00:53:30.683 learned to set, people really don't understand how to manage 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10094-3 00:53:30.683 --> 00:53:33.654 their case, don't understand that plastics have different, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10094-4 00:53:33.654 --> 00:53:36.726 that are made of different types of plastics, that there are 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10094-5 00:53:36.726 --> 00:53:38.036 numbers like basic things. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10113-0 00:53:38.556 --> 00:53:43.083 Umm, people do not know this and agree that needs to be as simple 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10113-1 00:53:43.083 --> 00:53:43.906 as possible. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10159-0 00:53:44.296 --> 00:53:49.734 So putting fund contention, I think something that command 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10159-1 00:53:49.734 --> 00:53:54.803 this quarter effort into education, yeah, you guys see 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10159-2 00:53:54.803 --> 00:54:00.149 that that's you know has a positive effect on the body or 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10159-3 00:54:00.149 --> 00:54:01.716 cycle hands down. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10189-0 00:54:01.726 --> 00:54:04.808 I mean, you know, we have 3 educators full time, you know, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10189-1 00:54:04.808 --> 00:54:08.151 working in this realm and going to the schools and bringing the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10189-2 00:54:08.151 --> 00:54:08.726 schools in. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10199-0 00:54:08.736 --> 00:54:11.836 And and it's endless because you get a new prop. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10229-0 00:54:11.846 --> 00:54:16.123 Students the next year, the students take it home to their 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10229-1 00:54:16.123 --> 00:54:20.836 parents very, very high value in terms of the the return for us. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10265-0 00:54:21.386 --> 00:54:25.146 But I will comment on if you've done your work OK on 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10265-1 00:54:25.146 --> 00:54:29.262 recyclables, you know, right now we have kind of a static 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10265-2 00:54:29.262 --> 00:54:30.326 recycling rate. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10287-0 00:54:31.266 --> 00:54:34.584 Part of the problem, too, is the most material we get is, you 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10287-1 00:54:34.584 --> 00:54:37.046 know, mixed paper which has a negative value. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10302-0 00:54:37.886 --> 00:54:40.924 You know, we're paying anywhere from 50 to $90.00 a ton to move 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10302-1 00:54:40.924 --> 00:54:41.066 it. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10333-0 00:54:42.106 --> 00:54:45.339 That's not a sustainable business model for, you know, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10333-1 00:54:45.339 --> 00:54:48.631 for profit entities, we're able to do it because of the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10333-2 00:54:48.631 --> 00:54:50.336 flexibility of our our setup. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10380-0 00:54:50.826 --> 00:54:54.834 But you know, maybe incubators, you know, at the university 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10380-1 00:54:54.834 --> 00:54:58.976 levels to take, you know, these local recycling materials and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10380-2 00:54:58.976 --> 00:55:03.251 turn them into something useful locally as opposed to having it 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10380-3 00:55:03.251 --> 00:55:05.856 to ship it, you know, 6000 miles away. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10384-0 00:55:06.916 --> 00:55:07.116 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10395-0 00:55:07.126 --> 00:55:09.126 That's to me, it's a no brainer, really. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10398-0 00:55:10.206 --> 00:55:10.496 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10424-0 00:55:10.506 --> 00:55:13.784 When you University of Maine, Orono has some they've done some 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10424-1 00:55:13.784 --> 00:55:16.750 work around that, like looking at scrap from fishing and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10424-2 00:55:16.750 --> 00:55:17.166 working. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10432-0 00:55:17.176 --> 00:55:19.086 They process at the Plaza. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10438-0 00:55:19.176 --> 00:55:20.936 They were on the university campus right here. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10502-0 00:55:20.946 --> 00:55:25.760 Maybe there's a program that the department could help fund to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10502-1 00:55:25.760 --> 00:55:29.810 kind of get it going as a materials lab here at USN, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10502-2 00:55:29.810 --> 00:55:34.624 they're looking at, you know, plastic type uses for conversion 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10502-3 00:55:34.624 --> 00:55:39.361 of, you know, I feel from the from fish, shellfish materials, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10502-4 00:55:39.361 --> 00:55:43.946 this stuff that's happening, I'm not sure it's coordinated. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10511-0 00:55:45.106 --> 00:55:46.816 It takes a long time to scale up too. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10520-0 00:55:46.986 --> 00:55:50.316 Once you find works, definitely. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10532-0 00:55:50.326 --> 00:55:53.296 But you know, I think, yeah, you have to start somewhere. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10596-0 00:55:53.366 --> 00:55:57.334 I think that's kind of the point that kind of one of the things 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10596-1 00:55:57.334 --> 00:56:01.178 we've also talked about in a couple of the meetings so far is 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10596-2 00:56:01.178 --> 00:56:05.084 deconstruction as a way to, you know, target both a huge waste 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10596-3 00:56:05.084 --> 00:56:08.742 strain and to provide education and economic opportunities 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10596-4 00:56:08.742 --> 00:56:11.346 because it's pretty low barrier to entry. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10632-0 00:56:11.356 --> 00:56:14.201 It could be a good training program and some of the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10632-1 00:56:14.201 --> 00:56:17.266 technical occasional schools were able to offer program 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10632-2 00:56:17.266 --> 00:56:20.658 because you can get carpentry skills, but also there's a huge 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10632-3 00:56:20.658 --> 00:56:21.096 benefit. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10680-0 00:56:21.106 --> 00:56:24.178 We have a lot of aging housing here, and rather than just 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10680-1 00:56:24.178 --> 00:56:27.620 destroying things, learning how to either repair and renovate or 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10680-2 00:56:27.620 --> 00:56:30.427 deconstruct and thoughtful manner so you're not just 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10680-3 00:56:30.427 --> 00:56:33.393 knocking everything down and losing everything in value 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10680-4 00:56:33.393 --> 00:56:35.406 socially, some of the heritage woods. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10693-0 00:56:35.416 --> 00:56:38.586 And anyway, we've talked about that in some of the meetings. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10708-0 00:56:38.596 --> 00:56:41.139 I think there's a huge opportunity there, but there's 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10708-1 00:56:41.139 --> 00:56:43.306 other states doing other states are doing it. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10711-0 00:56:43.316 --> 00:56:45.466 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10759-0 00:56:45.476 --> 00:56:49.368 Before we lose the previous train of thought because I think 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10759-1 00:56:49.368 --> 00:56:53.324 that deconstruction is a good a good comment, but the I think 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10759-2 00:56:53.324 --> 00:56:56.577 one of the issues that challenges education around 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10759-3 00:56:56.577 --> 00:57:00.087 recycling is lack of clear labeling for packaging just 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10759-4 00:57:00.087 --> 00:57:00.916 consistently. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10769-0 00:57:00.926 --> 00:57:03.006 You know, you stick that chasing arrows on it. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10776-0 00:57:03.016 --> 00:57:03.926 It's got a number. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10790-0 00:57:04.456 --> 00:57:07.992 People throw that stuff in the bin because that's what they 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10790-1 00:57:07.992 --> 00:57:09.406 relate to recyclability. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10817-0 00:57:09.416 --> 00:57:12.134 So I think you know, I know California has been looking at 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10817-1 00:57:12.134 --> 00:57:15.036 this under a microscope and and really trying to enforce that. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10824-0 00:57:15.466 --> 00:57:17.296 Just putting that on there, doesn't it? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10861-0 00:57:17.306 --> 00:57:21.401 It's a like virtue signaling to make money, and that there needs 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10861-1 00:57:21.401 --> 00:57:25.433 to be some sort of like truth in labeling or better enforcement 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10861-2 00:57:25.433 --> 00:57:28.016 for compliance so that these things are. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10875-0 00:57:28.526 --> 00:57:32.075 It actually means something to put a recycling symbol on a 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10875-1 00:57:32.075 --> 00:57:32.556 package. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10913-0 00:57:32.826 --> 00:57:36.356 That's a really good point, because with lead acid batteries 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10913-1 00:57:36.356 --> 00:57:40.060 you get the chasing symbol and people throw that acid batteries 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10913-2 00:57:40.060 --> 00:57:41.796 and the recyclables are worse. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10924-0 00:57:41.806 --> 00:57:45.016 Lithium ion batteries and then we have a whole nother issue. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10931-0 00:57:45.476 --> 00:57:47.276 So I agree with that, but that's it. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10938-0 00:57:47.286 --> 00:57:48.216 Thank you for that comment. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10967-0 00:57:49.156 --> 00:57:52.687 Just following up on the comment, I feel like there needs 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10967-1 00:57:52.687 --> 00:57:56.462 to be maybe a bit more stick and a little less cared, I don't 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10967-2 00:57:56.462 --> 00:57:56.766 know. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/10975-0 00:57:56.776 --> 00:58:01.266 But like you know, just enforcing greater. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11022-0 00:58:02.746 --> 00:58:05.639 Like I don't know if we wanna say penalties, but just like 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11022-1 00:58:05.639 --> 00:58:08.776 calling people out, I know that you come in has done some great 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11022-2 00:58:08.776 --> 00:58:11.914 work with like you know, putting a red sticker or green sticker 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11022-3 00:58:11.914 --> 00:58:13.336 on bins instead of you idiot. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11024-0 00:58:13.386 --> 00:58:14.716 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11033-0 00:58:15.086 --> 00:58:18.796 So if you don't, yeah, time to ramp it up. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11047-0 00:58:19.346 --> 00:58:26.516 Subtle, subtle, and and then also different topic, but uh. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11143-0 00:58:26.906 --> 00:58:31.312 We have unlimited dollars here enabling recycling to go to eco 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11143-1 00:58:31.312 --> 00:58:35.578 main and plastic bags or I know plastic bags, you know, like 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11143-2 00:58:35.578 --> 00:58:40.054 that's bad but but when you have like 3000 people in a hospital 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11143-3 00:58:40.054 --> 00:58:44.180 and you're trying to like go through every single room and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11143-4 00:58:44.180 --> 00:58:48.586 you know, yes, we can improve processes there, but just to get 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11143-5 00:58:48.586 --> 00:58:53.062 that discussion moving forward like plastic bags are so helpful 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11143-6 00:58:53.062 --> 00:58:57.048 to the staff when they're cleaning out something instead 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11143-7 00:58:57.048 --> 00:58:59.776 of cleaning out every single bin just. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11157-0 00:58:59.926 --> 00:59:03.069 Yeah, comes with tenable to actually recycle at the hospital 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11157-1 00:59:03.069 --> 00:59:03.636 instead of. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11172-0 00:59:05.036 --> 00:59:07.868 Just saying it would be better if they were plastic if you 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11172-1 00:59:07.868 --> 00:59:08.156 could. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11190-0 00:59:08.306 --> 00:59:11.606 If these guys had their way to handle your recyclables with 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11190-1 00:59:11.606 --> 00:59:13.476 coming start, is there equipment? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11203-0 00:59:14.606 --> 00:59:16.726 I mean, it's probably bad, bad breaking equipment. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11231-0 00:59:16.736 --> 00:59:19.175 We're actually in the process of, you know, working on a brand 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11231-1 00:59:19.175 --> 00:59:21.575 new facility, but it's gonna take a couple of years to get it 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11231-2 00:59:21.575 --> 00:59:22.156 up and running. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11244-0 00:59:22.686 --> 00:59:26.455 You know, certainly bring these points back to management of 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11244-1 00:59:26.455 --> 00:59:26.826 parts. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11267-0 00:59:27.266 --> 00:59:31.797 Let's bring glass out first, and I don't know what the new plants 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11267-1 00:59:31.797 --> 00:59:32.896 gonna look like. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11291-0 00:59:32.906 --> 00:59:36.512 The design, you know, we're dealing with the plan from 2006 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11291-1 00:59:36.512 --> 00:59:38.856 now and it's it's getting getting old. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11297-0 00:59:39.226 --> 00:59:41.426 That's really typical, though, for complaints. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11305-0 00:59:41.616 --> 00:59:43.116 Pretty plans to separate out first, yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11315-0 00:59:44.546 --> 00:59:47.326 We were talking about the glass out. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11321-0 00:59:47.336 --> 00:59:48.136 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11341-0 00:59:48.146 --> 00:59:50.534 We were just talking about that yesterday as potential 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11341-1 00:59:50.534 --> 00:59:52.922 opportunity for like an alternative collection program 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11341-2 00:59:52.922 --> 00:59:53.356 under APR. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11362-0 00:59:53.366 --> 00:59:57.796 Is that pulling glass out and separating it keeps it easier to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11362-1 00:59:57.796 --> 00:59:59.976 market, so something like that. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11365-0 00:59:59.986 --> 01:00:01.806 Really Melissa? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11372-0 01:00:01.816 --> 01:00:02.926 Joan has a comment. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11378-0 01:00:03.296 --> 01:00:04.096 Melissa, you're on. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11388-0 01:00:05.026 --> 01:00:05.796 You're also muted. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11386-0 01:00:06.936 --> 01:00:07.366 Hi there. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11393-0 01:00:07.376 --> 01:00:07.936 Can you hear me? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11391-0 01:00:08.656 --> 01:00:08.776 Yes. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11395-0 01:00:09.396 --> 01:00:10.006 Great. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11408-0 01:00:10.296 --> 01:00:14.406 So back to your question about greater funding and investing. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11428-0 01:00:14.716 --> 01:00:18.433 I'd like to just kind of throw it back to the department of, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11428-1 01:00:18.433 --> 01:00:20.626 you know, DEP, because I have been. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11488-0 01:00:20.636 --> 01:00:24.506 I watched their prior public hearings and I read through the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11488-1 01:00:24.506 --> 01:00:28.440 transcripts really quickly and there seems to be a disconnect 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11488-2 01:00:28.440 --> 01:00:32.564 between the department that not every that representatives don't 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11488-3 01:00:32.564 --> 01:00:35.991 seem to be communicating very well and that not every 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11488-4 01:00:35.991 --> 01:00:39.734 representative knew what was going on in our landfills and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11488-5 01:00:39.734 --> 01:00:40.686 our facilities. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11494-0 01:00:40.736 --> 01:00:41.076 Please. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11526-0 01:00:41.256 --> 01:00:44.596 And I just wonder if the department had some better 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11526-1 01:00:44.596 --> 01:00:48.643 funding, if you could maybe do or think about restructuring so 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11526-2 01:00:48.643 --> 01:00:51.663 that there is better communication between the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11526-3 01:00:51.663 --> 01:00:54.746 department representatives and our legislators. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11556-0 01:00:57.476 --> 01:01:01.053 Are you saying that there's a disconnect with the department 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11556-1 01:01:01.053 --> 01:01:04.396 between different department staff or between the women? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11550-0 01:01:01.396 --> 01:01:03.646 First, yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11552-0 01:01:05.526 --> 01:01:06.016 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11596-0 01:01:06.026 --> 01:01:09.579 So listening to the public hearings, there was some, you 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11596-1 01:01:09.579 --> 01:01:13.630 know, discussion about MRC, the Municipal Review Committee and I 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11596-2 01:01:13.630 --> 01:01:16.186 know Mike is, there's probably cringing. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11638-0 01:01:16.196 --> 01:01:20.507 Hopefully I don't say anything inappropriate, but that you know 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11638-1 01:01:20.507 --> 01:01:24.413 that you they remember is that were on the public hearing 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11638-2 01:01:24.413 --> 01:01:28.454 meetings for this solid waste plan, didn't know who the MRC 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11638-3 01:01:28.454 --> 01:01:31.755 was, didn't know what the facility was, what the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11638-4 01:01:31.755 --> 01:01:34.516 permitting was, how the permitting went. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11653-0 01:01:34.766 --> 01:01:35.466 It just seems to. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11651-0 01:01:35.796 --> 01:01:36.786 I don't know who the other. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11656-0 01:01:37.156 --> 01:01:37.566 I don't. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11659-0 01:01:37.576 --> 01:01:38.386 I don't know. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11670-0 01:01:38.516 --> 01:01:39.956 I think that you may be talking about. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11739-0 01:01:39.966 --> 01:01:44.926 There was a time when we were getting specific questions about 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11739-1 01:01:44.926 --> 01:01:49.571 items at at the facility and always having at the facility 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11739-2 01:01:49.571 --> 01:01:54.688 and we're the staff that was at those meetings weren't the staff 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11714-0 01:01:53.286 --> 01:01:53.476 OK. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11739-3 01:01:54.688 --> 01:01:59.333 that are the project managers for those facilities, but we 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11739-4 01:01:59.333 --> 01:02:00.356 wouldn't, no. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11725-0 01:01:59.886 --> 01:02:00.196 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11732-0 01:02:00.466 --> 01:02:01.696 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11776-0 01:02:01.706 --> 01:02:05.819 I don't know if that you know, I don't know if that's the problem 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11761-0 01:02:03.606 --> 01:02:04.076 And so but. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11776-1 01:02:05.819 --> 01:02:09.621 because we can't communicate to our legislators that we need 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11776-2 01:02:09.621 --> 01:02:12.426 more funding if we're not having these plan. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11813-0 01:02:12.436 --> 01:02:15.425 These discussions about our plans, but the people that are 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11813-1 01:02:15.425 --> 01:02:18.718 representing solid waste in the state of Maine didn't know about 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11813-2 01:02:18.718 --> 01:02:20.896 all the facilities that were in operation. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11827-0 01:02:21.386 --> 01:02:23.781 No, we just we couldn't answer detailed questions about the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11827-1 01:02:23.781 --> 01:02:26.096 facility operation because we're not the project manager. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11836-0 01:02:26.546 --> 01:02:28.366 Yeah, there wasn't that we didn't know about. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11873-0 01:02:28.506 --> 01:02:32.477 The facilities is that we were getting some specific questions 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11873-1 01:02:32.477 --> 01:02:36.321 about them that you know, unless you're the the staff person 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11873-2 01:02:36.321 --> 01:02:40.166 who's assigned that facility, you're not going to know that. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11899-0 01:02:40.326 --> 01:02:43.394 And I'm I don't want to have our staff trying to answer a 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11891-0 01:02:41.516 --> 01:02:41.756 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11899-1 01:02:43.394 --> 01:02:45.246 question that's going to be wrong. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11927-0 01:02:46.016 --> 01:02:50.068 So we can provide the way if someone has a specific question 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11927-1 01:02:50.068 --> 01:02:54.186 about facility, we can direct them to the right staff person. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11929-0 01:02:52.386 --> 01:02:52.716 He. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11942-0 01:02:54.196 --> 01:02:57.074 But I know the staff person knows all the information about 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11942-1 01:02:57.074 --> 01:02:57.506 facility. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11953-0 01:03:00.006 --> 01:03:02.106 There's also an ongoing issue right now with staff. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11955-0 01:03:04.516 --> 01:03:04.656 Yes. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11957-0 01:03:04.896 --> 01:03:05.106 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11976-0 01:03:06.226 --> 01:03:08.798 So it's just not comfortable to have people know becoming 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11976-1 01:03:08.798 --> 01:03:10.926 hearings and fortunately so that's not helping. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11977-0 01:03:09.466 --> 01:03:09.956 He had. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11981-0 01:03:12.436 --> 01:03:12.656 They. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11996-0 01:03:13.126 --> 01:03:15.836 Yeah, like, I guess two. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/11999-0 01:03:15.846 --> 01:03:18.056 I mean, again, the purpose of the meaning, these meetings. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12022-0 01:03:20.086 --> 01:03:24.006 RDA for us to I didn't have to send this for us to answer 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12022-1 01:03:24.006 --> 01:03:26.506 questions about specific facilities. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12043-0 01:03:27.446 --> 01:03:32.170 The purpose of these meetings is to get feedback from people 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12043-1 01:03:32.170 --> 01:03:36.817 about updating the materials management plan, which are two 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12043-2 01:03:36.817 --> 01:03:38.056 separate things. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12045-0 01:03:40.326 --> 01:03:40.546 Right. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12093-0 01:03:44.296 --> 01:03:49.188 Well, I'll just quickly wrap it up that you know, I just in my 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12093-1 01:03:49.188 --> 01:03:54.158 experience have noticed that our legislators and throughout the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12093-2 01:03:54.158 --> 01:03:58.506 state do not know about the severity of municipal solid 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12093-3 01:03:58.506 --> 01:04:00.836 waste management in our state. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12119-0 01:04:00.906 --> 01:04:04.216 And I would like to see some greater resources to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12119-1 01:04:04.216 --> 01:04:08.320 municipalities and facilities to, you know, make sure that we 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12119-2 01:04:08.320 --> 01:04:09.776 can do that correctly. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12141-0 01:04:09.786 --> 01:04:14.479 So my suggestion for increased funding and investment would be 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12141-1 01:04:14.479 --> 01:04:17.756 to open up a dialogue with our legislators. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12144-0 01:04:19.976 --> 01:04:20.216 OK. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12153-0 01:04:21.576 --> 01:04:25.316 Yeah, effectively now has it coming. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12165-0 01:04:26.406 --> 01:04:27.096 You wanna later? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12159-0 01:04:27.946 --> 01:04:28.166 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12222-0 01:04:28.176 --> 01:04:32.117 I just want to reassure Melissa that, well, while there are 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12222-1 01:04:32.117 --> 01:04:36.451 certain people in the department that know the details on certain 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12222-2 01:04:36.451 --> 01:04:40.195 things, and I think there is a very sort of conservative 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12222-3 01:04:40.195 --> 01:04:43.938 approach to make sure that we're not providing incorrect 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12222-4 01:04:43.938 --> 01:04:48.141 information, we we do have, we are having discussions about how 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12222-5 01:04:48.141 --> 01:04:50.046 we can increase coordination. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12250-0 01:04:50.356 --> 01:04:53.660 That is something that we are looking into and just wanna 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12250-1 01:04:53.660 --> 01:04:57.078 reassure you that it's not something that uh, is completely 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12250-2 01:04:57.078 --> 01:04:57.876 off the table. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12254-0 01:05:06.466 --> 01:05:06.786 Alright. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12256-0 01:05:06.796 --> 01:05:07.336 Thank you. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12261-0 01:05:07.426 --> 01:05:08.096 Thank you. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12264-0 01:05:08.746 --> 01:05:09.496 And thank you, Melissa. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12267-0 01:05:09.716 --> 01:05:10.116 That's it. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12312-0 01:05:10.896 --> 01:05:13.794 I'm not sure I I didn't quite understand your question first, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12312-1 01:05:13.794 --> 01:05:16.879 but I do see I do see your point and part of the reason why we're 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12312-2 01:05:16.879 --> 01:05:19.730 when we had the waste version grant program, we have the API 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12312-3 01:05:19.730 --> 01:05:21.086 for packaging program coming. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12366-0 01:05:21.316 --> 01:05:24.816 So those are both efforts to help municipalities and and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12366-1 01:05:24.816 --> 01:05:28.684 they're open to grant is also open to businesses to, you know, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12366-2 01:05:28.684 --> 01:05:32.367 provide more opportunities to divert material and resources 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12366-3 01:05:32.367 --> 01:05:36.051 for, well, the packaging program will provide resources for 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12366-4 01:05:36.051 --> 01:05:38.016 building out infrastructure too. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12394-0 01:05:38.026 --> 01:05:41.839 So those are things that we're aware of, but any kind of 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12394-1 01:05:41.839 --> 01:05:45.586 detailed suggestions that you have, umm would be great. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12424-0 01:05:45.596 --> 01:05:48.762 Like so, if you have something specific for your community, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12424-1 01:05:48.762 --> 01:05:51.982 what your Community needs or things that you have identified 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12424-2 01:05:51.982 --> 01:05:54.726 as a need, that that's really helpful feedback too. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12444-0 01:06:05.256 --> 01:06:08.653 So the packaging program is actually the next thing up on 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12444-1 01:06:08.653 --> 01:06:09.766 our talking points. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12447-0 01:06:10.106 --> 01:06:10.616 Umm. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12474-0 01:06:11.386 --> 01:06:16.270 And essentially that's going to require participating in this 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12474-1 01:06:16.270 --> 01:06:20.131 qualities to collect a designated sweet sweet of 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12474-2 01:06:20.131 --> 01:06:21.076 recyclables. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12480-0 01:06:21.746 --> 01:06:23.696 But it won't be mandatory to participate. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12515-0 01:06:23.706 --> 01:06:27.045 It will be, you know, test set to opt in to participate and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12515-1 01:06:27.045 --> 01:06:30.273 we'll have to keep some records in order to be reimbursed 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12515-2 01:06:30.273 --> 01:06:32.276 through the search of organization. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12535-0 01:06:32.346 --> 01:06:35.149 You'd be better to talk about this than we actually do want to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12535-1 01:06:35.149 --> 01:06:35.416 short. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12575-0 01:06:35.816 --> 01:06:42.609 So we're in the process of I'm making rules for the law and we 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12575-1 01:06:42.609 --> 01:06:49.293 are accepting public comment at this time will be shared with 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12575-2 01:06:49.293 --> 01:06:56.086 some draft for some conceptual rules this starting this month. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12588-0 01:06:56.396 --> 01:07:00.496 But broadly speaking, it is a optional program that 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12588-1 01:07:00.496 --> 01:07:03.256 municipalities can participate in. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12635-0 01:07:03.266 --> 01:07:08.162 And yeah, the two conditions are that you will have to collect 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12635-1 01:07:08.162 --> 01:07:13.136 all the materials that are on a list of readily recyclable list 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12635-2 01:07:13.136 --> 01:07:17.722 and you will also have to provide some information so that 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12635-3 01:07:17.722 --> 01:07:20.986 we can quantify the reimbursement amount. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12663-0 01:07:21.096 --> 01:07:25.004 So reporting and collecting all the materials that are 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12663-1 01:07:25.004 --> 01:07:29.552 considered readily recyclable at this point, we're creating the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12663-2 01:07:29.552 --> 01:07:31.826 criteria for readily recyclable. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12671-0 01:07:32.416 --> 01:07:34.986 That is something that is done. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12678-0 01:07:34.996 --> 01:07:37.106 It's looked at on an annual basis. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12684-0 01:07:37.816 --> 01:07:38.616 That list has not. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12688-0 01:07:39.026 --> 01:07:40.126 Then maybe. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12721-0 01:07:40.216 --> 01:07:45.973 Yeah, but I also wanted to add about the carrot and stick that 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12721-1 01:07:45.973 --> 01:07:51.274 you mentioned that in this program, that's the dynamic is 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12721-2 01:07:51.274 --> 01:07:52.096 more fun. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12736-0 01:07:52.106 --> 01:07:58.906 The producers and the state and labeling is one of the we're 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12736-1 01:07:58.906 --> 01:08:01.136 calling it a factor. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12754-0 01:08:01.146 --> 01:08:04.146 It's one of the factors that we can incentivize in the program. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12761-0 01:08:04.156 --> 01:08:06.136 We're actually looking for some input on that. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12784-0 01:08:07.006 --> 01:08:11.800 There's a list of factors that we can, you know, penalize 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12784-1 01:08:11.800 --> 01:08:16.016 producers, or when it comes to packaging material. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12799-0 01:08:16.026 --> 01:08:19.574 And one of them is just misleading or inaccurate 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12799-1 01:08:19.574 --> 01:08:20.226 labeling. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12827-0 01:08:20.736 --> 01:08:24.754 And maybe that's, you know, we didn't get any strong opinion 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12827-1 01:08:24.754 --> 01:08:28.640 about what to prioritize in terms of this list of factors, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12827-2 01:08:28.640 --> 01:08:30.946 but maybe labeling is one of them. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12837-0 01:08:33.186 --> 01:08:34.326 Tell me you have something to add. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12866-0 01:08:36.496 --> 01:08:41.409 Ah yes, I've I've been involved with the PR meetings and you'd 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12866-1 01:08:41.409 --> 01:08:46.166 mentioned that that we're going to have a readily recyclable 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12866-2 01:08:46.166 --> 01:08:46.556 list. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12869-0 01:08:46.626 --> 01:08:47.116 Thank you. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12877-0 01:08:46.786 --> 01:08:46.946 The. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12932-0 01:08:47.126 --> 01:08:51.144 That was one of my first questions way back when, and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12932-1 01:08:51.144 --> 01:08:55.831 once the list is put together, they're going to be a draft and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12894-0 01:08:52.026 --> 01:08:52.416 This. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12932-2 01:08:55.831 --> 01:09:00.593 then sent out followed up with a a meeting to discuss that list 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12904-0 01:08:55.906 --> 01:08:56.176 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12932-3 01:09:00.593 --> 01:09:05.281 because I think our friend Andy will will be pretty interested 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12923-0 01:09:01.266 --> 01:09:01.666 Motion. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12932-4 01:09:05.281 --> 01:09:05.876 in that. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12933-0 01:09:05.826 --> 01:09:05.966 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12935-0 01:09:08.266 --> 01:09:08.516 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12945-0 01:09:08.526 --> 01:09:12.016 What we're doing is we're defining readily recyclable. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13002-0 01:09:12.026 --> 01:09:16.812 We're setting up that criteria and that annual meeting when we 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/12956-0 01:09:13.856 --> 01:09:14.056 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13002-1 01:09:16.812 --> 01:09:20.762 gather round stakeholders, producers, you know, the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13002-2 01:09:20.762 --> 01:09:25.319 administrative body, which is known as the so and we get to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13002-3 01:09:25.319 --> 01:09:30.257 talking about what materials are meeting these criteria and then 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13002-4 01:09:30.257 --> 01:09:31.776 we create that list. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13022-0 01:09:31.786 --> 01:09:38.124 We're not expecting that list to change frequently, but will we 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13013-0 01:09:35.846 --> 01:09:36.046 No. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13022-1 01:09:38.124 --> 01:09:41.986 be proposing the initial list in Rule? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13029-0 01:09:41.996 --> 01:09:43.396 That's not going to happen. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13038-0 01:09:43.406 --> 01:09:44.756 It's just the criteria. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13036-0 01:09:45.376 --> 01:09:45.906 OK. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13040-0 01:09:45.956 --> 01:09:46.566 OK. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13050-0 01:09:46.576 --> 01:09:49.726 You mentioned in add an annual meeting. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13057-0 01:09:49.736 --> 01:09:50.976 Did you mean just a meeting? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13078-0 01:09:52.166 --> 01:09:57.163 Yeah, that's part of the rulemaking for the program, but 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13075-0 01:09:56.306 --> 01:09:57.366 OK, OK. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13078-1 01:09:57.163 --> 01:09:58.916 still kind of, yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13098-0 01:09:58.466 --> 01:10:04.138 So so the the the SSO will be working with us on the criteria 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13098-1 01:10:04.138 --> 01:10:07.706 for the readily recyclable definition. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13102-0 01:10:09.046 --> 01:10:10.706 No, that's something we're doing. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13137-0 01:10:10.926 --> 01:10:16.013 So the the really recycle will be definition, the definition 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13137-1 01:10:16.013 --> 01:10:21.016 will be defined in the rules and then the and then the yes. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13128-0 01:10:17.966 --> 01:10:18.116 But. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13157-0 01:10:21.026 --> 01:10:24.771 So the specific criteria for the what's really recycle will be 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13146-0 01:10:21.926 --> 01:10:22.186 Yep. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13157-1 01:10:24.771 --> 01:10:27.386 defined in the rules and then the SSO will. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13164-0 01:10:28.256 --> 01:10:30.086 Determine the material. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13186-0 01:10:30.096 --> 01:10:34.502 That's meets that criteria and is considered readily 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13186-1 01:10:34.502 --> 01:10:35.416 recyclable. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13197-0 01:10:36.136 --> 01:10:40.306 At at with a published list or as the waste comes in. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13217-0 01:10:44.736 --> 01:10:47.096 OK, OK. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13230-0 01:10:47.146 --> 01:10:50.156 And that'll be like a living document, probably. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13245-0 01:10:50.666 --> 01:10:54.586 We reviewed the annually, so I think Elena's got. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13249-0 01:10:54.076 --> 01:10:55.876 OK. Gotcha. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13252-0 01:10:54.946 --> 01:10:56.656 Yeah, I do. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13256-0 01:10:57.806 --> 01:10:58.156 Elena. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13254-0 01:10:58.906 --> 01:10:59.336 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13275-0 01:10:59.406 --> 01:11:02.006 Thank you. Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13274-0 01:10:59.516 --> 01:11:00.856 Yeah. Yep. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13288-0 01:11:00.616 --> 01:11:04.269 So so Tony, one of the things that's gonna be defined in Rule 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13288-1 01:11:04.269 --> 01:11:07.746 is what that process, what that annual process looks like. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13310-0 01:11:07.816 --> 01:11:10.236 So if you have thoughts on that, you should it be great if you 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13310-1 01:11:10.236 --> 01:11:10.966 could send them in. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13308-0 01:11:11.566 --> 01:11:12.046 All right. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13312-0 01:11:12.146 --> 01:11:12.526 Thank you. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13342-0 01:11:14.346 --> 01:11:20.476 And this also involves like signage and universal education, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13342-1 01:11:20.476 --> 01:11:26.505 like signaling to uh, to the public what it is that's being 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13342-2 01:11:26.505 --> 01:11:28.716 recycled and accepted. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13372-0 01:11:28.726 --> 01:11:33.644 So I think we we're getting some comments too around just how to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13372-1 01:11:33.644 --> 01:11:37.881 how that will become more universal as a result of this 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13372-2 01:11:37.881 --> 01:11:38.486 program. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13420-0 01:11:38.546 --> 01:11:43.439 And again, municipalities don't have to participate, but it will 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13420-1 01:11:43.439 --> 01:11:48.333 certainly for those that are, it will start to seed that list in 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13420-2 01:11:48.333 --> 01:11:53.076 the public and it will probably become, have it even for folks 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13420-3 01:11:53.076 --> 01:11:57.066 who are in a municipality that aren't participating. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13425-0 01:11:57.456 --> 01:11:59.236 That's the expectation, right? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13432-0 01:11:59.616 --> 01:12:00.506 Like as a resident. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13447-0 01:12:00.516 --> 01:12:04.484 Like if you move from one town to another town, you can at 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13447-1 01:12:04.484 --> 01:12:05.426 least recycle. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13487-0 01:12:05.886 --> 01:12:09.690 Yeah, that list there might be more like eco main mix, except a 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13487-1 01:12:09.690 --> 01:12:13.316 few additional other things, but orchesella may accept a few 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13487-2 01:12:13.316 --> 01:12:16.882 other additional things, but that list will be whether your 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13487-3 01:12:16.882 --> 01:12:19.676 source separated or single stream or whatever. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13493-0 01:12:19.686 --> 01:12:20.786 You can put those things in your bed. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13514-0 01:12:23.406 --> 01:12:26.896 Don't blame is back a linear on. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13506-0 01:12:27.466 --> 01:12:27.836 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13517-0 01:12:27.846 --> 01:12:29.636 I just have a question for the group. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13568-0 01:12:30.456 --> 01:12:34.802 One of the things that we realize is that by the time this 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13568-1 01:12:34.802 --> 01:12:39.515 gets, you know, there's a lot of municipalities that don't have 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13568-2 01:12:39.515 --> 01:12:43.935 any program and we are also looking for thoughts on and and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13568-3 01:12:43.935 --> 01:12:48.575 for a better understanding of how a programs initially get set 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13568-4 01:12:48.575 --> 01:12:48.796 up. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13588-0 01:12:49.706 --> 01:12:53.114 So if anyone has any thoughts or insight on that, that'd be 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13588-1 01:12:53.114 --> 01:12:53.796 appreciated. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13630-0 01:13:01.976 --> 01:13:05.760 We're thinking that this is another opportunity for 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13630-1 01:13:05.760 --> 01:13:09.908 regionalization where you have one municipality you know 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13630-2 01:13:09.908 --> 01:13:13.837 possibly finding a way to participate through another 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13630-3 01:13:13.837 --> 01:13:18.494 municipality, because now that municipality you know is meeting 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13630-4 01:13:18.494 --> 01:13:19.586 those criteria. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13640-0 01:13:19.656 --> 01:13:21.646 So just another opportunity for regionalization. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13698-0 01:13:23.186 --> 01:13:27.456 So Speaking of realization, my understanding was when we first 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13698-1 01:13:27.456 --> 01:13:31.795 we were invited into a meeting with Elena and then I believe in 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13698-2 01:13:31.795 --> 01:13:35.794 the beginning, like once we restart this facility with the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13698-3 01:13:35.794 --> 01:13:39.929 optical sword and everything else and meet the criteria that 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13698-4 01:13:39.929 --> 01:13:44.064 list that's going to be key for providing information in our 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13698-5 01:13:44.064 --> 01:13:44.606 Members. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13713-0 01:13:44.616 --> 01:13:48.120 Those member municipalities would be considered to have as a 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13713-1 01:13:48.120 --> 01:13:49.786 participating in the program. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13728-0 01:13:50.716 --> 01:13:53.469 You know we we track the volume coming in and have track the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13728-1 01:13:53.469 --> 01:13:54.236 volume going out. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13752-0 01:13:55.766 --> 01:13:59.611 So when you talk about implementing a program or or or 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13752-1 01:13:59.611 --> 01:14:03.036 that type of thing that that's my first thought. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13762-0 01:14:03.046 --> 01:14:05.764 If they're in other regions, yes, it's coming to the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13762-1 01:14:05.764 --> 01:14:06.226 facility. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13768-0 01:14:07.026 --> 01:14:07.356 Yes. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13801-0 01:14:07.366 --> 01:14:10.355 And those municipalities are participating because they're 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13801-1 01:14:10.355 --> 01:14:12.989 gonna be reporting with the information that you're 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13801-2 01:14:12.989 --> 01:14:16.332 providing them, which is simply, yeah, maybe only to clarify what 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13801-3 01:14:16.332 --> 01:14:16.636 it is. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13848-0 01:14:16.746 --> 01:14:20.352 I guess my examples is say say somewhere to happen like like 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13848-1 01:14:20.352 --> 01:14:24.017 like we we all know what what what the outcomes gonna be with 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13848-2 01:14:24.017 --> 01:14:27.328 perk right now and everything else and and one of those 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13848-3 01:14:27.328 --> 01:14:29.456 clients comes over to the facility. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13889-0 01:14:29.526 --> 01:14:32.563 This will waste lution solutions and we're we're up and going and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13889-1 01:14:32.563 --> 01:14:35.369 they didn't have a program, but would that be considered now 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13889-2 01:14:35.369 --> 01:14:38.176 they do have a program because they're having to the server. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13953-0 01:14:38.526 --> 01:14:41.968 If you're providing for the recycling of all of what's on a 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13953-1 01:14:41.968 --> 01:14:45.295 list, and then they get the information that they need to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13953-2 01:14:45.295 --> 01:14:47.934 report if they've met both criteria and their 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13953-3 01:14:47.934 --> 01:14:51.433 participating, I believe the only question on the prior list 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13953-4 01:14:51.433 --> 01:14:55.162 that we talked about was class, but I think we found a under the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13953-5 01:14:55.162 --> 01:14:56.596 construction piece of it. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13978-0 01:14:56.606 --> 01:15:02.499 I think we found a resolved from them because our glass goes into 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13978-1 01:15:02.499 --> 01:15:07.857 grid, but yeah, that's still with the beneficial beneficial 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13978-2 01:15:07.857 --> 01:15:09.196 use use, right? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13983-0 01:15:09.206 --> 01:15:09.936 Yeah, I think that's. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/13994-0 01:15:12.766 --> 01:15:15.806 Yeah, I think that's just something to consider. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14002-0 01:15:16.306 --> 01:15:17.776 Another meeting, right? Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14027-0 01:15:17.786 --> 01:15:20.359 That I was thinking that as we have for these definitions, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14027-1 01:15:20.359 --> 01:15:22.976 because I did, you know, Tony kind of led the front for us. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14045-0 01:15:22.986 --> 01:15:25.693 I lost a little bit of track of it, but I remember the sitting 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14045-1 01:15:25.693 --> 01:15:26.466 down conversation. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14071-0 01:15:26.506 --> 01:15:30.271 So I think I just wanted to clarify that with the unknowns 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14071-1 01:15:30.271 --> 01:15:34.036 that might be happening with the next three or four weeks. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14084-0 01:15:34.626 --> 01:15:37.899 As we discussed this, yes, it's gonna need a lot more 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14084-1 01:15:37.899 --> 01:15:38.566 discussion. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14086-0 01:15:38.706 --> 01:15:39.236 Glasses. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14091-0 01:15:39.676 --> 01:15:40.956 Yeah, I'm glasses. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14095-0 01:15:40.966 --> 01:15:41.366 A. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14105-0 01:15:42.566 --> 01:15:46.026 Is it material that will be editional discussion? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14107-0 01:15:46.456 --> 01:15:46.676 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14116-0 01:15:48.456 --> 01:15:49.746 Yeah, and that is littering. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14119-0 01:15:49.756 --> 01:15:50.586 It's on the list. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14121-0 01:15:50.656 --> 01:15:51.376 Yeah. OK. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14156-0 01:15:56.946 --> 01:16:00.395 If we can talk about the packaging program more or we can 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14156-1 01:16:00.395 --> 01:16:03.904 move on to our next question, which is looking at what are 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14156-2 01:16:03.904 --> 01:16:05.986 some of the really, I have Jackie. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14163-0 01:16:06.186 --> 01:16:07.956 OK, Jackie, brace them. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14164-0 01:16:08.716 --> 01:16:08.966 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14195-0 01:16:09.286 --> 01:16:15.059 Hi this isn't really a packaging question or topic and if I'm 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14195-1 01:16:15.059 --> 01:16:20.460 really glad we're focusing on the micro aspects of all of 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14195-2 01:16:20.460 --> 01:16:20.926 this. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14211-0 01:16:21.096 --> 01:16:25.566 But I just like to switch our gaze to the macro if I might. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14240-0 01:16:25.576 --> 01:16:32.086 For a moment, umm, within the context of extended producer 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14240-1 01:16:32.086 --> 01:16:38.043 responsibility overall, the issue of solar panels and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14240-2 01:16:38.043 --> 01:16:42.236 turbine blades and parts end of life? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14245-0 01:16:43.216 --> 01:16:43.676 Umm. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14311-0 01:16:43.916 --> 01:16:50.364 If we do accomplish making gains and renewable generation of 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14311-1 01:16:50.364 --> 01:16:57.129 energy, we're going to have to factor in the end of life aspect 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14311-2 01:16:57.129 --> 01:17:03.366 of things on the front end rather than, you know, 25 years 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14311-3 01:17:03.366 --> 01:17:09.602 down the road saying ohh oops, we need to do something and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14311-4 01:17:09.602 --> 01:17:16.156 actually with turbine blades the the lifespan of those is not 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14311-5 01:17:16.156 --> 01:17:17.636 that extended. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14335-0 01:17:18.806 --> 01:17:24.392 Umm, I really would like to see serious discussion about these 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14335-1 01:17:24.392 --> 01:17:28.116 topics that we really have a view toward. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14327-0 01:17:24.526 --> 01:17:24.836 Yes. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14351-0 01:17:28.646 --> 01:17:33.487 If you build these facilities, you're going to have to show the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14351-1 01:17:33.487 --> 01:17:34.016 surety. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14355-0 01:17:35.266 --> 01:17:35.766 Umm. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14366-0 01:17:36.026 --> 01:17:39.156 To cover the cost of what happens if end of life? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14395-0 01:17:39.226 --> 01:17:45.101 And then included in that, we've gotta figure out what is going 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14395-1 01:17:45.101 --> 01:17:48.956 to be the end of life for these products. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14428-0 01:17:49.656 --> 01:17:55.134 Umm, Mr Boyd said he doesn't want panel solar panels and JRL, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14428-1 01:17:55.134 --> 01:18:00.789 which I think is probably smart, so we really need to have some 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14428-2 01:18:00.789 --> 01:18:03.616 serious conversation about this. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14440-0 01:18:03.626 --> 01:18:04.026 Thank you. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14434-0 01:18:04.516 --> 01:18:05.426 Yeah, I'm Jackie. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14451-0 01:18:05.436 --> 01:18:08.746 Just see you know LD 466 was resolved. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14477-0 01:18:08.756 --> 01:18:13.162 That's the requiring the department to look at solar 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14477-1 01:18:13.162 --> 01:18:18.398 panels and blades and evaluate them against the criteria for a 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14477-2 01:18:18.398 --> 01:18:20.726 product stewardship program. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14498-0 01:18:21.696 --> 01:18:25.730 So that's and that's going to be in this upcoming years, our 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14498-1 01:18:25.730 --> 01:18:27.516 product stewardship report. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14527-0 01:18:27.526 --> 01:18:31.229 So yeah, it's a, it's something we know about and we are 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14527-1 01:18:31.229 --> 01:18:35.321 planning to work on and study over the course of this fall and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14527-2 01:18:35.321 --> 01:18:35.776 winter. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14533-0 01:18:37.636 --> 01:18:38.076 Thank you. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14543-0 01:18:39.626 --> 01:18:42.286 So that may not be something that's in the waste management. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14599-0 01:18:42.296 --> 01:18:46.469 That's not gonna be in the waste management plan because it is 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14599-1 01:18:46.469 --> 01:18:50.643 going to be specific since it's already been called out for us 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14599-2 01:18:50.643 --> 01:18:54.684 to do this specific study on solar panels and window blades, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14599-3 01:18:54.684 --> 01:18:58.857 we're gonna treat it as that and put it in the throne solution 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14599-4 01:18:58.857 --> 01:18:59.586 for it. So. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14622-0 01:19:03.776 --> 01:19:06.086 So maybe maybe define it in the waste management plan is 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14622-1 01:19:06.086 --> 01:19:07.626 something that's part of the product. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14625-0 01:19:07.876 --> 01:19:08.426 It's too much. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14654-0 01:19:08.436 --> 01:19:12.406 Well, only defined as a material of concern, and so I think that 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14654-1 01:19:12.406 --> 01:19:15.766 it will be mentioned in the pleasant material concern. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14663-0 01:19:16.276 --> 01:19:19.636 Seeing the portion of the product stewardship report. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14676-0 01:19:20.216 --> 01:19:25.006 Regarding the outcome of the report required by LD 466. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14687-0 01:19:27.666 --> 01:19:29.356 Hi Kat you're presenter. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14689-0 01:19:31.026 --> 01:19:31.696 Oh, thank you. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14699-0 01:19:31.706 --> 01:19:32.986 I can you hear me? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14711-0 01:19:33.546 --> 01:19:34.296 Yep, yes. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14704-0 01:19:34.246 --> 01:19:35.186 Ohh good. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14741-0 01:19:35.346 --> 01:19:39.962 I just wanted to add on to what Jackie just said about the wind 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14741-1 01:19:39.962 --> 01:19:44.650 turbine blades and I'm I do have 466 up queued up in my research 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14741-2 01:19:44.650 --> 01:19:45.876 to be discovered. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14759-0 01:19:45.886 --> 01:19:50.250 I sent you out a document today on wind turbine blades and pee 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14759-1 01:19:50.250 --> 01:19:50.596 fast. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14886-0 01:19:51.506 --> 01:19:55.581 There's concern in Europe and other places in the United 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14886-1 01:19:55.581 --> 01:19:59.871 States that the epoxies they're used in construction of the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14781-0 01:19:55.846 --> 01:19:56.166 It's. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14886-2 01:19:59.871 --> 01:20:04.446 turbine blades which are about so far as why does or as long as 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14802-0 01:20:02.076 --> 01:20:02.256 No. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14886-3 01:20:04.446 --> 01:20:09.022 the football field is wide, to give you some perspective of the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14886-4 01:20:09.022 --> 01:20:13.526 size of these and they have a warranty of five years that they 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14886-5 01:20:13.526 --> 01:20:18.173 often wear out sooner, ocean or offshore blades, where where are 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14848-0 01:20:16.756 --> 01:20:16.996 There's. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14886-6 01:20:18.173 --> 01:20:22.177 even sooner, as in, is the department doing anything in 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14886-7 01:20:22.177 --> 01:20:26.466 testing around existing wind turbines to see if there's any 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14886-8 01:20:26.466 --> 01:20:30.041 toxic chemicals or micro plastics that are being, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14886-9 01:20:30.041 --> 01:20:32.186 obviously they're wearing out. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14907-0 01:20:32.696 --> 01:20:36.172 So the the materials that are used to build these things and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14907-1 01:20:36.172 --> 01:20:38.566 make them resilient are often not either. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14914-0 01:20:38.626 --> 01:20:40.726 BPA, or P Foss. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14963-0 01:20:40.866 --> 01:20:45.594 And so that's just kind of like spewing more toxins into the air 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14963-1 01:20:45.594 --> 01:20:50.030 and it would probably be as simple thing to do to include it 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14963-2 01:20:50.030 --> 01:20:54.758 in with the P fast testing that you're doing now and the Tier 1, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14963-3 01:20:54.758 --> 01:20:56.576 Tier 2, etcetera, uh you. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14985-0 01:20:56.636 --> 01:21:01.020 So I just wondered, is the DP planning on testing them or is 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14985-1 01:21:01.020 --> 01:21:01.236 it? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/14988-0 01:21:01.296 --> 01:21:02.486 Let's not go. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15004-0 01:21:02.496 --> 01:21:04.636 Look, they're trouble or you know. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15000-0 01:21:05.106 --> 01:21:05.696 Well, there's just. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15021-0 01:21:05.706 --> 01:21:09.338 No, there's no plans for doing any testing around windmills or 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15021-1 01:21:09.338 --> 01:21:10.606 anything at this time. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15028-0 01:21:12.226 --> 01:21:14.586 So I think we'll just wait this. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15032-0 01:21:14.596 --> 01:21:15.646 We'll see. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15036-0 01:21:16.196 --> 01:21:17.806 You know what? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15069-0 01:21:17.816 --> 01:21:20.854 Their recommendations are the report once we come out and then 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15069-1 01:21:20.854 --> 01:21:23.941 if if seems like that might be a need, then we will approach it 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15069-2 01:21:23.941 --> 01:21:24.616 at that point. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15096-0 01:21:24.626 --> 01:21:28.088 Right now, there's no plans to do any additional any any 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15096-1 01:21:28.088 --> 01:21:31.246 analysis of any around any of the existing windows. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15105-0 01:21:31.916 --> 01:21:34.806 Well, how about if citizens do it? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15153-0 01:21:34.816 --> 01:21:38.489 You know, I mean, if someone lives underneath a wind turbine 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15153-1 01:21:38.489 --> 01:21:42.404 and would like to know this, is there a possibility that the DEP 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15153-2 01:21:42.404 --> 01:21:46.258 could put up something on their website that with the P fat you 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15153-3 01:21:46.258 --> 01:21:48.486 have an extensive website on P fast. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15170-0 01:21:48.496 --> 01:21:52.549 Right now it wouldn't be that difficult to just create a form 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15170-1 01:21:52.549 --> 01:21:53.726 requesting a test. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15210-0 01:21:54.236 --> 01:21:58.266 I don't know how you could do this in the private sector, but 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15210-1 01:21:58.266 --> 01:22:02.491 maybe the DEP could provide that information so that land owners 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15210-2 01:22:02.491 --> 01:22:06.131 who live close by wind turbines can get the soil tested 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15210-3 01:22:06.131 --> 01:22:06.846 themselves. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15222-0 01:22:09.326 --> 01:22:11.816 I don't think there's that we can send out. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15228-0 01:22:11.826 --> 01:22:12.806 Yeah, we I guess. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15246-0 01:22:13.316 --> 01:22:17.116 Well, so you mean there's nothing stopping U.S. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15253-0 01:22:17.126 --> 01:22:19.516 Citizen from testing their own property? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15283-0 01:22:20.396 --> 01:22:26.377 Uh, and I mean, until we actually know, I mean, I haven't 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15269-0 01:22:23.546 --> 01:22:23.906 OK. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15283-1 01:22:26.377 --> 01:22:28.336 seen what you said. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15285-0 01:22:28.346 --> 01:22:28.716 I don't. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15297-0 01:22:28.766 --> 01:22:31.436 I've done to dive deep and what the what? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15304-0 01:22:31.446 --> 01:22:32.696 What's in windmill blades? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15341-0 01:22:32.706 --> 01:22:38.157 But you know, until we actually figure out if that might even be 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15341-1 01:22:38.157 --> 01:22:43.273 an issue, you know, we are not going to recommend or require 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15341-2 01:22:43.273 --> 01:22:46.376 any kind of testing until that time. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15353-0 01:22:46.686 --> 01:22:49.096 So but. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15343-0 01:22:47.596 --> 01:22:48.146 Right. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15384-0 01:22:48.156 --> 01:22:52.442 But umm, that we're about to launch into two huge wind 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15384-1 01:22:52.442 --> 01:22:57.352 turbine projects that offshore and onshore and we just now are 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15368-0 01:22:54.436 --> 01:22:54.626 I. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15384-2 01:22:57.352 --> 01:23:01.171 dealing with the P fast contamination from waste 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15384-3 01:23:01.171 --> 01:23:02.496 treatment sludge. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15424-0 01:23:02.746 --> 01:23:06.319 So don't you think it's better to get ahead of the problem and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15424-1 01:23:06.319 --> 01:23:09.778 find out now before we give permitting to these projects for 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15424-2 01:23:09.778 --> 01:23:10.856 them to go forward? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15436-0 01:23:11.066 --> 01:23:15.904 The NECC corridor was not very popular, but it wasn't 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15436-1 01:23:15.904 --> 01:23:19.756 contaminating the land that we know about. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15457-0 01:23:20.516 --> 01:23:25.259 It just seems that getting ahead of the problem might be a way to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15457-1 01:23:25.259 --> 01:23:27.056 divert attention from it. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15465-0 01:23:27.066 --> 01:23:28.836 I think right now I sent you a document. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15475-0 01:23:28.846 --> 01:23:30.436 Is this Robert that I'm talking to like? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15489-0 01:23:30.446 --> 01:23:32.196 It's hard to tell because everybody. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15508-0 01:23:31.626 --> 01:23:35.416 And frying, yeah, yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15496-0 01:23:32.756 --> 01:23:33.676 Ohh Brian. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15501-0 01:23:33.686 --> 01:23:35.596 OK. It's it's. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15536-0 01:23:35.966 --> 01:23:40.418 Yeah, it's just I sent you some information on landfilling and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15536-1 01:23:40.418 --> 01:23:44.870 recycling of turbines and also a potential risk for P face and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15536-2 01:23:44.870 --> 01:23:47.556 BPA used in the construction of them. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15551-0 01:23:47.566 --> 01:23:49.916 So you know, you know how to get ahold of me. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15560-0 01:23:48.296 --> 01:23:48.646 Look. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15568-0 01:23:49.926 --> 01:23:52.406 So I'll just let I'll give up my I'll yield the floor. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15574-0 01:23:53.416 --> 01:23:54.416 Thank you for letting me talk. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15578-0 01:23:56.466 --> 01:23:56.966 Thanks Jeff. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15595-0 01:24:00.476 --> 01:24:03.071 Yeah, I mean, I guess we'll just you know, for us, we're not 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15595-1 01:24:03.071 --> 01:24:03.326 gonna. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15616-0 01:24:04.056 --> 01:24:08.398 You know, we're not gonna do any recommend or do any testing on 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15616-1 01:24:08.398 --> 01:24:09.416 any facilities. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15631-0 01:24:09.426 --> 01:24:13.621 And so we actually have a better idea of what what the situation 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15631-1 01:24:13.621 --> 01:24:14.266 is, right? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15667-0 01:24:14.276 --> 01:24:17.533 So I'm not sure the soil sampling is is we don't have 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15667-1 01:24:17.533 --> 01:24:21.211 that anywhere of kids that we can send out to people to test 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15667-2 01:24:21.211 --> 01:24:22.116 their own soil. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15678-0 01:24:22.126 --> 01:24:25.626 No, I I mean there's more to soil sampling than. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15685-0 01:24:25.636 --> 01:24:27.836 Yeah, that would be a very then what? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15687-0 01:24:28.286 --> 01:24:28.806 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15708-0 01:24:28.986 --> 01:24:31.415 Yeah, it's very sophisticated when you're talking to levels 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15708-1 01:24:31.415 --> 01:24:33.196 that you're, you know you're talking about. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15746-0 01:24:33.256 --> 01:24:37.650 Yeah, below detection levels and again, you know it's you can't 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15746-1 01:24:37.650 --> 01:24:41.838 just test for everything you have to test for what you think 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15746-2 01:24:41.838 --> 01:24:46.026 might be an issue when we don't even know exactly what's in. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15751-0 01:24:47.076 --> 01:24:47.926 But I don't. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15756-0 01:24:47.976 --> 01:24:48.906 Sorry, I don't know. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15762-0 01:24:48.976 --> 01:24:49.556 I'm it's help. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15784-0 01:24:49.566 --> 01:24:53.080 Don't know what's in and in these in in windmills to what 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15784-1 01:24:53.080 --> 01:24:54.716 blades to make it actually. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15790-0 01:24:56.006 --> 01:24:57.046 See what the concern is. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15809-0 01:24:57.056 --> 01:24:59.617 So there's variation of the different like solar panels have 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15809-1 01:24:59.617 --> 01:25:00.876 all kinds of different, right? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15818-0 01:25:00.886 --> 01:25:03.336 There's some different manufacturers and such. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15827-0 01:25:03.346 --> 01:25:06.386 So yeah, that's why this study will be important. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15833-0 01:25:06.876 --> 01:25:08.516 This is how we're looking into it, yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15877-0 01:25:14.176 --> 01:25:17.593 So the next question in our talking points was kind of 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15877-1 01:25:17.593 --> 01:25:21.508 trying to think about some of the really big waste dreams like 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15877-2 01:25:21.508 --> 01:25:24.987 umm bulky waste or other materials that are problematic 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15877-3 01:25:24.987 --> 01:25:26.416 that we're landfilling. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15923-0 01:25:26.426 --> 01:25:29.439 A lot of are there opportunities to like, think higher up the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15923-1 01:25:29.439 --> 01:25:32.015 hierarchy is there are there ways streams that we're 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15923-2 01:25:32.015 --> 01:25:34.931 disposing right now that we could potentially be looking at 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15923-3 01:25:34.931 --> 01:25:37.896 creating infrastructure programs to start pulling those out? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15936-0 01:25:37.906 --> 01:25:40.995 Like I've mentioned, the deconstruction right, like 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15936-1 01:25:40.995 --> 01:25:42.836 that's such a huge opportunity. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15941-0 01:25:42.846 --> 01:25:44.176 But are there others? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15950-0 01:25:44.256 --> 01:25:46.626 What else could we be doing or like? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15982-0 01:25:47.106 --> 01:25:50.002 Yeah, I mean, I guess if you, I'll just add two, you think 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15982-1 01:25:50.002 --> 01:25:52.800 about you know, the goal here is to limit as to meet our 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15982-2 01:25:52.800 --> 01:25:54.616 recycling and waste diversion goals. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15984-0 01:25:54.626 --> 01:25:55.136 What? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15986-0 01:25:55.246 --> 01:25:55.836 What? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/15991-0 01:25:56.226 --> 01:25:57.766 What are you? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16070-0 01:25:57.806 --> 01:26:02.126 I mean, there's the numbers that come out of this, but in terms 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16070-1 01:26:02.126 --> 01:26:06.581 of what's actually in the waste, what are you seeing in the waste 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16070-2 01:26:06.581 --> 01:26:10.428 stream that when people low hanging fruit for us to deal 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16070-3 01:26:10.428 --> 01:26:14.343 with for diversion, how does that one point like we we've 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16070-4 01:26:14.343 --> 01:26:18.596 talked with the researchers at University of Maine who look at 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16070-5 01:26:18.596 --> 01:26:21.296 kind of the the reuse economy in Maine. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16099-0 01:26:21.466 --> 01:26:24.766 And one thing that they found in talking to people who run second 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16099-1 01:26:24.766 --> 01:26:27.166 hand and charitable organizations does that the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16099-2 01:26:27.166 --> 01:26:29.116 quality of some things have gone down. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16133-0 01:26:29.126 --> 01:26:31.980 So, for instance, furniture is no longer lasting as longer they 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16133-1 01:26:31.980 --> 01:26:34.700 might get donated things that you know at one time you might 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16133-2 01:26:34.700 --> 01:26:37.286 have a couch that we stay in your family for generations. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16144-0 01:26:37.296 --> 01:26:39.536 And now they're just kind of falling apart so. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16172-0 01:26:40.086 --> 01:26:43.832 Umm, just kind of some perspective there in terms of it 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16172-1 01:26:43.832 --> 01:26:47.377 seems sometimes the second second life may not be as 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16172-2 01:26:47.377 --> 01:26:49.116 feasible as it used to be. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16212-0 01:26:49.506 --> 01:26:52.791 So yeah, and then the other thing too is like some kind of 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16212-1 01:26:52.791 --> 01:26:56.188 asking like why we consider anecdotal, you know, what do you 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16212-2 01:26:56.188 --> 01:26:57.636 guys seeing in the screen? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16234-0 01:26:57.706 --> 01:27:01.641 But that being said, we are we did get a grant from EPA to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16234-1 01:27:01.641 --> 01:27:04.576 actually do a waste characterization study. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16255-0 01:27:04.906 --> 01:27:08.480 We're working on the RFP for that now and we hope hope to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16255-1 01:27:08.480 --> 01:27:09.836 have that out for bid. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16257-0 01:27:10.676 --> 01:27:11.746 No and. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16277-0 01:27:12.936 --> 01:27:16.295 Unfortunately, they you won't have the results back for this 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16277-1 01:27:16.295 --> 01:27:16.846 the court. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16295-0 01:27:17.156 --> 01:27:20.391 But no, by next year we'll have the results of that waste 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16295-1 01:27:20.391 --> 01:27:21.786 characteristics to study. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16323-0 01:27:21.796 --> 01:27:26.288 So we actually have a expect to have a really good idea of what 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16323-1 01:27:26.288 --> 01:27:30.500 is actually in the what we identified waste stream and that 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16323-2 01:27:30.500 --> 01:27:32.886 was just gonna ask that question. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16325-0 01:27:32.976 --> 01:27:33.586 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16347-0 01:27:33.596 --> 01:27:36.473 So for us, it's like, what's so, what do you mean by waste and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16347-1 01:27:36.473 --> 01:27:37.706 the waste characterization? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16357-0 01:27:37.746 --> 01:27:38.826 Well, so it's gonna be for us. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16365-0 01:27:38.836 --> 01:27:39.986 It's like what is actually being. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16388-0 01:27:40.456 --> 01:27:43.999 What is the material that's being plant filled and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16388-1 01:27:43.999 --> 01:27:46.986 insinuated that we can move from disposal? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16398-0 01:27:47.076 --> 01:27:49.336 I mean, I'm going to just say Barbie cars. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16410-0 01:27:50.676 --> 01:27:54.306 You know what's the percentage of Barbie cars in? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16437-0 01:27:54.996 --> 01:27:57.589 Is there the way skirt version comes out says Oh my God, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16437-1 01:27:57.589 --> 01:28:00.546 everybody in Maine has all these Barbie cars are getting rid of. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16448-0 01:28:00.736 --> 01:28:02.206 Is there a way we can recycle them? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16453-0 01:28:02.436 --> 01:28:03.666 That's kind of that's. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16459-0 01:28:03.736 --> 01:28:05.676 That's a silly example. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16473-0 01:28:05.686 --> 01:28:08.646 For what I'm going to the Barbie movie was so popular. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16483-0 01:28:08.656 --> 01:28:10.106 So you know that's that's right. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16490-0 01:28:10.796 --> 01:28:11.616 Don't five years. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16498-0 01:28:11.626 --> 01:28:14.506 That might be an issue, but what is the? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16516-0 01:28:14.736 --> 01:28:20.668 What is the, you know, what are the materials in being disposed 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16516-1 01:28:20.668 --> 01:28:20.946 of? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16540-0 01:28:22.116 --> 01:28:27.955 That would be the low hanging fruit for us to address and and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16540-1 01:28:27.955 --> 01:28:34.076 and divert from that disposal St asphalt shingles access, right. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16543-0 01:28:34.786 --> 01:28:36.876 Yep. Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16553-0 01:28:36.886 --> 01:28:38.646 So well, and and I would. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16563-0 01:28:39.406 --> 01:28:41.576 OK, I think that's a great question. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16570-0 01:28:42.466 --> 01:28:43.936 And that question be modified to? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16587-0 01:28:43.986 --> 01:28:47.108 I mean, does that mean you don't, you know, you still have 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16587-1 01:28:47.108 --> 01:28:49.436 to look at the non laughing through, right? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16593-0 01:28:49.446 --> 01:28:50.406 I do have to wait. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16617-0 01:28:50.416 --> 01:28:53.388 There are some things like, you know that just not going to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16617-1 01:28:53.388 --> 01:28:54.726 going to just be a problem. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16623-0 01:28:54.736 --> 01:28:55.476 We're not gonna have it. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16630-0 01:28:55.486 --> 01:28:58.236 Simply it's for like diapers, right? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16633-0 01:28:58.326 --> 01:28:59.316 Yeah, right. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16652-0 01:28:59.326 --> 01:29:02.647 But there's other things, you know, big and and I'm sure it's 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16652-1 01:29:02.647 --> 01:29:03.986 going to be on your list. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16663-0 01:29:03.996 --> 01:29:08.021 It's probably we're talking about, even fill filling up the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16663-1 01:29:08.021 --> 01:29:08.356 land. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16672-0 01:29:08.786 --> 01:29:10.666 Yeah, that's a that's been, yeah, worse. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16695-0 01:29:10.676 --> 01:29:14.561 The sludge stuff, it's going crazy, and that's what she was 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16695-1 01:29:14.561 --> 01:29:17.086 still going in, which is crazy, right? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16716-0 01:29:17.096 --> 01:29:19.749 Like that isn't the stations that collect offs, asphalt 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16716-1 01:29:19.749 --> 01:29:22.166 shingles and they don't know what to do with that? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16723-0 01:29:22.176 --> 01:29:23.176 I don't know what to tell them. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16780-0 01:29:24.346 --> 01:29:28.357 I there's a, there's a there's a financial component to that 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16780-1 01:29:28.357 --> 01:29:32.237 testing you worked on on Greg Sports viewers back and then 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16780-2 01:29:32.237 --> 01:29:36.314 that's not as much of a problem as it used to because part of 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16780-3 01:29:36.314 --> 01:29:40.391 focused on that and and came up with you in the same with the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16780-4 01:29:40.391 --> 01:29:42.166 packaging and and so forth. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16799-0 01:29:42.936 --> 01:29:46.166 If you we made some progress, but it's solved the problem. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16803-0 01:29:46.176 --> 01:29:47.156 Yet we've made some progress. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16808-0 01:29:48.476 --> 01:29:49.666 Ohh, something's like diapers. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16823-0 01:29:49.676 --> 01:29:54.231 I I wanna see something of this cycle types, but anyway that's 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16823-1 01:29:54.231 --> 01:29:55.316 the whole well. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16833-0 01:29:59.756 --> 01:30:01.986 Don't use the smoke and there's other. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16864-0 01:30:02.156 --> 01:30:06.080 There's other items too called items that we know is a problem, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16864-1 01:30:06.080 --> 01:30:09.820 but they're not like a a like lithium batteries because they 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16864-2 01:30:09.820 --> 01:30:10.556 get on fire. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16889-0 01:30:10.566 --> 01:30:14.589 That's a huge that is a huge problem, and that's something 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16889-1 01:30:14.589 --> 01:30:17.726 that, you know, we'd like we want to address. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16907-0 01:30:17.926 --> 01:30:22.371 And again, that's not like a big percentage of the of the that's 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16907-1 01:30:22.371 --> 01:30:24.286 like that's not yet not yet. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16948-0 01:30:24.296 --> 01:30:28.016 We see it could be an exponential issue in five years 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16948-1 01:30:28.016 --> 01:30:31.943 because they're in these electric cars start hitting the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16948-2 01:30:31.943 --> 01:30:36.490 roads and mass, you know, people are gonna put that battery packs 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16948-3 01:30:36.490 --> 01:30:38.006 in the car, the trash. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16960-0 01:30:38.256 --> 01:30:41.406 It's gonna happen even though there's value to them. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16989-0 01:30:41.416 --> 01:30:44.320 And hopefully if there was a better, if there was a forced 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16989-1 01:30:44.320 --> 01:30:47.372 takeback program, like with the lead acid battery, that to me 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/16989-2 01:30:47.372 --> 01:30:48.406 makes a lot of sense. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17028-0 01:30:48.416 --> 01:30:51.675 But you have to get ahead of that curve now, right along 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17028-1 01:30:51.675 --> 01:30:55.163 those lines in South Portland made them promoting beneficial 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17028-2 01:30:55.163 --> 01:30:58.766 electrification and a big part of that descend lawn equipment. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17041-0 01:30:59.226 --> 01:31:01.816 Umm, so those are rechargeable batteries. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17059-0 01:31:01.826 --> 01:31:05.090 There is the rechargeable battery stewardship program, but 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17059-1 01:31:05.090 --> 01:31:07.856 it doesn't apply to batteries that are that size. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17097-0 01:31:08.706 --> 01:31:11.890 We also got a waste diversion grant to do an electric tool 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17097-1 01:31:11.890 --> 01:31:14.750 library and it's new, so everything's great now, but 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17097-2 01:31:14.750 --> 01:31:18.096 we're going to have to get rid of those batteries eventually. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17106-0 01:31:18.346 --> 01:31:20.136 We talked to Calder recycle about it. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17122-0 01:31:20.146 --> 01:31:22.850 It seems like there's pretty much no way to recycle those 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17122-1 01:31:22.850 --> 01:31:23.316 right now. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17146-0 01:31:23.826 --> 01:31:27.865 So if if the stewardship program could be expanded to include 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17146-1 01:31:27.865 --> 01:31:30.536 larger batteries, that would be amazing. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17155-0 01:31:32.106 --> 01:31:33.896 Alien number Tati has something to happen. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17191-0 01:31:35.866 --> 01:31:40.157 I don't wanna pull us too far off track, but you mentioned the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17191-1 01:31:40.157 --> 01:31:44.652 reuse Center for lawn equipment, which I've heard is going really 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17191-2 01:31:44.652 --> 01:31:47.376 well and I was wondering, is that true? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17209-0 01:31:47.386 --> 01:31:52.211 And if it is true, do you see opportunities for that to expand 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17209-1 01:31:52.211 --> 01:31:54.356 either by moving into other? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17218-0 01:31:55.726 --> 01:31:58.516 Items or for it to expand? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17235-0 01:31:58.526 --> 01:32:01.525 Do you think it's something that's would work for other 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17232-0 01:32:00.056 --> 01:32:00.306 And this. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17235-1 01:32:01.525 --> 01:32:01.846 towns? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17242-0 01:32:03.816 --> 01:32:05.406 Yeah, it's been going very well. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17283-0 01:32:05.416 --> 01:32:09.111 It's an extremely popular the downside is that most equipment 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17283-1 01:32:09.111 --> 01:32:12.806 is out all the time and people feel frustrated that when they 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17283-2 01:32:12.806 --> 01:32:15.786 show up, they can't take the tool of they wanted. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17297-0 01:32:15.976 --> 01:32:18.640 They just started a wait list system, but we'll see how it 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17297-1 01:32:18.640 --> 01:32:18.866 goes. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17316-0 01:32:19.696 --> 01:32:22.627 I have had several other communities reach out to me 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17316-1 01:32:22.627 --> 01:32:24.396 about doing something like that. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17335-0 01:32:24.516 --> 01:32:27.727 It's been more from like community organizations than the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17335-1 01:32:27.727 --> 01:32:29.166 municipalities themselves. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17348-0 01:32:29.516 --> 01:32:33.525 I think it's very replicable and something that should be 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17348-1 01:32:33.525 --> 01:32:34.216 encourage. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17359-0 01:32:34.526 --> 01:32:38.216 We would love to expand, but we would need more funding. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17390-0 01:32:38.306 --> 01:32:42.673 We have a very small shed which is maybe short sighted, but 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17390-1 01:32:42.673 --> 01:32:47.331 yeah, we've we've gotten request for other equipment, just more 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17390-2 01:32:47.331 --> 01:32:48.496 of what we have. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17409-0 01:32:48.616 --> 01:32:51.872 Aerators have been a big thing that people have brought up, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17409-1 01:32:51.872 --> 01:32:54.206 didn't know thorough electric air readers. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17422-0 01:32:54.216 --> 01:32:58.486 But umm, but it's something that we're we're thinking about. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17474-0 01:32:58.496 --> 01:33:03.072 But so far it's going well and this the the you don't you think 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17474-1 01:33:03.072 --> 01:33:07.363 you see a point where that it's it's a lending or is it the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17474-2 01:33:07.363 --> 01:33:11.939 renting thing it's a lending so you just need an active library 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17474-3 01:33:11.939 --> 01:33:14.656 card in order to check out equipment. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17480-0 01:33:14.746 --> 01:33:15.796 Check it out for a week. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17510-0 01:33:16.146 --> 01:33:19.372 So that's that's probably the bigger problem is that funding 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17510-1 01:33:19.372 --> 01:33:22.438 for the program you could buy twice the the the amount of 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17510-2 01:33:22.438 --> 01:33:23.496 stuff that you have. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17521-0 01:33:23.846 --> 01:33:28.286 But really, the problem is funding difficult. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17533-0 01:33:28.336 --> 01:33:30.626 But like you said, the scenario is we don't worry about it. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17535-0 01:33:30.636 --> 01:33:31.856 So yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17538-0 01:33:34.486 --> 01:33:34.946 Period. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17542-0 01:33:34.956 --> 01:33:35.716 But like how? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17563-0 01:33:35.766 --> 01:33:39.351 How much and funding are you are you talking about that would 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17563-1 01:33:39.351 --> 01:33:41.086 like help you meet your needs. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17570-0 01:33:41.096 --> 01:33:41.976 Like, do you know? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17607-0 01:33:42.066 --> 01:33:45.677 I mean, it depends how big you'd wanna go or initial Grant was a 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17607-1 01:33:45.677 --> 01:33:49.121 little over $16,000, which was the shed, the electric, all of 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17607-2 01:33:49.121 --> 01:33:49.676 the tools. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17636-0 01:33:51.366 --> 01:33:55.446 So we wouldn't need that much to get more in terms of tools, but 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17636-1 01:33:55.446 --> 01:33:59.086 then the grant the grants kept out of 40,000 application. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17646-0 01:33:59.126 --> 01:34:01.746 But I mean we get that's the maximum. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17675-0 01:34:01.756 --> 01:34:05.451 So we got like 100 to 125 per grant round two rounds a year, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17675-1 01:34:05.451 --> 01:34:07.086 one in spring one and fall. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17708-0 01:34:07.316 --> 01:34:11.338 So we're very thoughtful about the 14K grants applications when 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17708-1 01:34:11.338 --> 01:34:15.046 they come in, but seems like money well spent in this case 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17708-2 01:34:15.046 --> 01:34:16.806 for that is going very well. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17710-0 01:34:16.816 --> 01:34:19.176 Yeah, right. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17714-0 01:34:19.756 --> 01:34:20.276 Just curious. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17726-0 01:34:23.986 --> 01:34:25.596 So can I follow up one question on that? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17730-0 01:34:24.306 --> 01:34:24.456 So. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17734-0 01:34:25.606 --> 01:34:27.116 Do you have information on? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17749-0 01:34:27.526 --> 01:34:30.309 I guess it's probably resource intensive, but do you have 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17749-1 01:34:30.309 --> 01:34:32.036 information on like how it's going? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17768-0 01:34:32.046 --> 01:34:35.075 Any numbers or anything like on a website that other entities 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17810-0 01:34:34.906 --> 01:34:38.926 That he umm, we don't at the moment, but we get information 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17768-1 01:34:35.075 --> 01:34:35.466 can see. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17810-1 01:34:38.926 --> 01:34:42.679 from the library at the end of the month about how many 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17810-2 01:34:42.679 --> 01:34:47.034 checkouts there were and we have people have to sign a liability 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17810-3 01:34:47.034 --> 01:34:49.446 waiver when we check out equipment. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17819-0 01:34:49.456 --> 01:34:52.536 So we do know how many people have checked out equipment. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17832-0 01:34:56.436 --> 01:34:57.656 Maybe a good case study too. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17866-0 01:34:57.666 --> 01:35:01.719 When you submit like your final report to to showcase it in such 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17866-1 01:35:01.719 --> 01:35:05.461 a way that other entities are interested, communities could 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17866-2 01:35:05.461 --> 01:35:07.706 easily see this is how you do this. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17872-0 01:35:08.056 --> 01:35:10.516 Yeah, that sounds great. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17887-0 01:35:13.396 --> 01:35:16.726 Umm, that makes me think of repair cafes in general. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17904-0 01:35:16.736 --> 01:35:19.250 So that's another thing that we've seen kind of picking up 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17904-1 01:35:19.250 --> 01:35:19.506 steam. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17910-0 01:35:20.116 --> 01:35:21.306 Vanessa, I don't know if you want to. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17926-0 01:35:21.316 --> 01:35:24.016 Do you want to talk about that a little bit or you don't want? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17930-0 01:35:24.026 --> 01:35:25.486 You don't mean? I'm not. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17940-0 01:35:25.536 --> 01:35:28.186 I'm not in it, but I'm connected. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17953-0 01:35:28.196 --> 01:35:32.537 So, I mean, there's definitely growing interest in repair 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17953-1 01:35:32.537 --> 01:35:32.986 cafes. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17968-0 01:35:33.916 --> 01:35:37.252 There are, there are growing number of them kind of popping 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17968-1 01:35:37.252 --> 01:35:38.586 up throughout the state. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17982-0 01:35:38.596 --> 01:35:41.306 I know there's one in Brunswick that operates out of the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/17982-1 01:35:41.306 --> 01:35:41.686 library. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18003-0 01:35:41.776 --> 01:35:45.414 They take turns with Bath to host it, so it's like another 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18003-1 01:35:45.414 --> 01:35:47.326 regional kind of collaboration. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18015-0 01:35:47.626 --> 01:35:50.886 There's also one here in Southern Maine that's operating. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18031-0 01:35:51.846 --> 01:35:55.179 And I think at their first event they said something about like, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18031-1 01:35:55.179 --> 01:35:55.846 75 pounds of. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18047-0 01:35:56.536 --> 01:36:00.006 Material kind of kept in circulation versus the waste 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18047-1 01:36:00.006 --> 01:36:00.456 stream. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18076-0 01:36:00.466 --> 01:36:05.716 So first event pretty successful I I think there is probably a 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18076-1 01:36:05.716 --> 01:36:10.883 good a good need for more like collaboration between them and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18076-2 01:36:10.883 --> 01:36:12.716 like more interaction. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18097-0 01:36:12.826 --> 01:36:16.279 I've mentioned this to Megan before, so I feel comfortable 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18097-1 01:36:16.279 --> 01:36:19.146 during the again, but we're talking about, yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18157-0 01:36:19.156 --> 01:36:21.989 So I think that there are because they're recruiting 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18157-1 01:36:21.989 --> 01:36:25.143 volunteers and I think being able to like share strategies 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18157-2 01:36:25.143 --> 01:36:28.243 would be really helpful, but also just promoting the work 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18157-3 01:36:28.243 --> 01:36:31.290 that they're all doing and trying to like share this out 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18157-4 01:36:31.290 --> 01:36:34.764 wider to get more participation from the public I think would be 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18157-5 01:36:34.764 --> 01:36:35.566 really helpful. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18170-0 01:36:36.006 --> 01:36:38.026 And then I think avenues for funding. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18214-0 01:36:38.036 --> 01:36:41.362 One thing that I've heard from some of those folks is that like 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18214-1 01:36:41.362 --> 01:36:44.168 they have to invest in the parks, they have volunteer 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18214-2 01:36:44.168 --> 01:36:47.337 manpower to, you know, men and women power to to do the work 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18214-3 01:36:47.337 --> 01:36:49.156 that's needed to make the repairs. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18255-0 01:36:49.396 --> 01:36:53.523 But in terms of getting the parts, the replacement pieces, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18255-1 01:36:53.523 --> 01:36:58.140 you know, some repair cafes I've heard across the country that do 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18255-2 01:36:58.140 --> 01:37:02.266 like 3D printing to replace small component parts that are 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18255-3 01:37:02.266 --> 01:37:02.966 necessary. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18288-0 01:37:03.636 --> 01:37:07.394 So those are investments that I think a lot of volunteer 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18288-1 01:37:07.394 --> 01:37:11.481 grassroots groups are unable to do right in the moment unless 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18288-2 01:37:11.481 --> 01:37:14.646 they're soliciting donations from from patrons. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18312-0 01:37:14.656 --> 01:37:18.672 But yeah, I I think that investing and more, you know, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18312-1 01:37:18.672 --> 01:37:22.762 facilitating collaboration between them would be really 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18312-2 01:37:22.762 --> 01:37:23.346 helpful. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18329-0 01:37:24.806 --> 01:37:27.308 And I welcome if and there's someone else that wants to share 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18329-1 01:37:27.308 --> 01:37:28.196 about this, please do. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18363-0 01:37:30.356 --> 01:37:34.401 I think that the parts thing is because it means in the dark to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18363-1 01:37:34.401 --> 01:37:38.257 do a lot of repairs, you gotta get the part needed trying to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18363-2 01:37:38.257 --> 01:37:40.216 find parts is can be difficult. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18377-0 01:37:40.226 --> 01:37:42.936 So and some people just show up off the street with. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18383-0 01:37:42.986 --> 01:37:44.076 Here's my busted lamp. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18406-0 01:37:44.126 --> 01:37:46.621 And you know, you don't know what parts you need until you 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18406-1 01:37:46.621 --> 01:37:47.636 have it in front of you. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18409-0 01:37:47.726 --> 01:37:48.216 Right. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18414-0 01:37:48.226 --> 01:37:49.646 So that can be really challenging. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18480-0 01:37:49.656 --> 01:37:52.766 Yeah, I think some of the bigger groups like out in California 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18480-1 01:37:52.766 --> 01:37:55.729 have, they will actually have some of the businesses comes, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18480-2 01:37:55.729 --> 01:37:58.839 there might be somebody from a hardware store or somebody from 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18480-3 01:37:58.839 --> 01:38:01.752 bike shop or electrician, somebody with some of that stuff 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18480-4 01:38:01.752 --> 01:38:04.665 already in hand and they sell them, they don't, they don't 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18480-5 01:38:04.665 --> 01:38:05.406 give them away. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18497-0 01:38:05.416 --> 01:38:07.849 So they're it's also good for the business because then they 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18497-1 01:38:07.849 --> 01:38:08.926 make a little bit of money. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18518-0 01:38:09.226 --> 01:38:11.859 Yeah, and it gives them a good presence and they can come and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18518-1 01:38:11.859 --> 01:38:12.496 lend expertise. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18526-0 01:38:12.506 --> 01:38:14.166 But you know, it really vary. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18535-0 01:38:14.176 --> 01:38:17.966 Some of them are very, you know, just know how to. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18549-0 01:38:17.976 --> 01:38:20.766 I just know how to fix a lamp when it's not working. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18646-0 01:38:21.036 --> 01:38:24.567 Yeah, I feel those like skill sharing is also really cool 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18646-1 01:38:24.567 --> 01:38:27.976 cause that could be some information and transfer right 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18646-2 01:38:27.976 --> 01:38:31.386 and like also I am not proficient in repair and mending 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18646-3 01:38:31.386 --> 01:38:35.221 my own clothes, but to like go and like bring something that's 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18646-4 01:38:35.221 --> 01:38:38.692 broken and sit down with somebody who knows how to do it 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18646-5 01:38:38.692 --> 01:38:42.223 and be able to like I'm learning something but then I can 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18646-6 01:38:42.223 --> 01:38:45.997 replicate to my own home and keep things useful longer versus 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18646-7 01:38:45.997 --> 01:38:49.346 have you know I write my sweater and it's irreparable. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18653-0 01:38:49.356 --> 01:38:50.576 Someone throw that in the trash. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18655-0 01:38:51.146 --> 01:38:51.816 Yeah, yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18663-0 01:38:51.826 --> 01:38:52.826 Or put it in a textile. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18665-0 01:38:52.836 --> 01:38:55.436 Recycling, yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18690-0 01:38:57.696 --> 01:39:00.244 And there's a lot of potential there for, you know, just 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18690-1 01:39:00.244 --> 01:39:03.016 reducing consumption of stuff and keeping stuff out of waste. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18692-0 01:39:03.026 --> 01:39:03.506 Ravens. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18697-0 01:39:04.476 --> 01:39:07.146 Last longer, yeah, yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18765-0 01:39:09.896 --> 01:39:12.676 You know, without like addressing the big capitalism of 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18765-1 01:39:12.676 --> 01:39:15.655 it all, I think that's a big problem with the way stream is 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18765-2 01:39:15.655 --> 01:39:18.882 that things feel more disposable now than they ever used to mean 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18765-3 01:39:18.882 --> 01:39:21.910 you talk to somebody from the depression era and it's a very 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18765-4 01:39:21.910 --> 01:39:24.938 different lived experience and conservation of resources and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18765-5 01:39:24.938 --> 01:39:26.626 not buying things you don't need. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18830-0 01:39:26.676 --> 01:39:30.195 I think it's that's going to require a much larger cultural 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18830-1 01:39:30.195 --> 01:39:33.949 shift in consumer behaviors, but also hope businesses market to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18830-2 01:39:33.949 --> 01:39:37.409 consumers and like, you know, getting something pink, just 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18830-3 01:39:37.409 --> 01:39:40.870 because Barbie came out as a movie, you know, not the most 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18830-4 01:39:40.870 --> 01:39:44.624 sustainable way to to practice living your life but not reading 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18830-5 01:39:44.624 --> 01:39:46.266 your iPhone every two years. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18833-0 01:39:46.276 --> 01:39:46.936 Right, exactly. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18842-0 01:39:46.946 --> 01:39:49.416 And so there's perceived, but there's planned obsolescence. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18866-0 01:39:49.426 --> 01:39:52.584 So I think there's addressing some of those challenges is 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18866-1 01:39:52.584 --> 01:39:56.068 really difficult because it gets at the heart of human behavior 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18866-2 01:39:56.068 --> 01:39:56.286 too. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18875-0 01:40:00.466 --> 01:40:01.556 I've also there's also. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18932-0 01:40:01.566 --> 01:40:05.680 I mean, this is really, I think, just the Portland, but more 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18932-1 01:40:05.680 --> 01:40:09.861 interesting kind of reusables and the University of Maine LED 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18932-2 01:40:09.861 --> 01:40:13.637 a study a couple years back that ultimately resulted in 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18932-3 01:40:13.637 --> 01:40:17.953 Department of Health and Human Services updating the food codes 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18932-4 01:40:17.953 --> 01:40:21.797 to allow for reuse for food service businesses, which is 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18932-5 01:40:21.797 --> 01:40:22.876 pretty exciting. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18936-0 01:40:22.886 --> 01:40:23.876 It's still limited. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18992-0 01:40:23.886 --> 01:40:26.442 So you can't bring your Tupperware from home and have it 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18992-1 01:40:26.442 --> 01:40:29.088 filled it a restaurant, but the restaurant can provide you 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18992-2 01:40:29.088 --> 01:40:31.868 something sterile or, you know, trade out if if you if it's a 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18992-3 01:40:31.868 --> 01:40:34.649 place where you go all the time for lunch, you can bring your 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18992-4 01:40:34.649 --> 01:40:36.846 container and then give you a clean replacement. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/18996-0 01:40:37.736 --> 01:40:38.586 So they have. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19048-0 01:40:38.696 --> 01:40:41.661 They've done a lot of work on that and it seems like that's 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19048-1 01:40:41.661 --> 01:40:44.477 another huge opportunity to reduce some of these kind of 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19048-2 01:40:44.477 --> 01:40:47.245 everyday things that are, you know, they're just trash, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19048-3 01:40:47.245 --> 01:40:50.111 they're made to be trash and it's something that we could 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19048-4 01:40:50.111 --> 01:40:52.186 easily replace with something refillable. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19064-0 01:40:52.256 --> 01:40:55.964 But we need the infrastructure to support it and kind of again 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19064-1 01:40:55.964 --> 01:40:57.376 that's a mindset change. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19073-0 01:40:57.386 --> 01:41:00.146 It's, you know, changing the way we do things. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19102-0 01:41:00.156 --> 01:41:03.347 So it's a bigger and harder shift than just making something 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19102-1 01:41:03.347 --> 01:41:06.486 recyclable, but it's a good long time thing to think about. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19143-0 01:41:07.796 --> 01:41:12.237 So on the reuse and and like changing codes, I know that you 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19143-1 01:41:12.237 --> 01:41:17.042 know not every person here is in healthcare, but like health care 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19143-2 01:41:17.042 --> 01:41:20.246 is pretty big and it's pretty big in Maine. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19159-0 01:41:20.256 --> 01:41:26.113 And we have so much single use everything first to reality 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19159-1 01:41:26.113 --> 01:41:27.006 purposes. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19188-0 01:41:27.316 --> 01:41:32.588 But there has been talk with some of our accrediting agencies 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19188-1 01:41:32.588 --> 01:41:37.435 in the healthcare space around like reviewing those like 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19188-2 01:41:37.435 --> 01:41:39.306 relaxing some of them. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19222-0 01:41:40.966 --> 01:41:45.773 And I mean from a waste perspective, I think in bed 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19222-1 01:41:45.773 --> 01:41:51.690 generated like 100 and something tons of weight, it's just it's 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19222-2 01:41:51.690 --> 01:41:55.296 such a high waste production industry. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19263-0 01:41:55.786 --> 01:42:01.179 So any like opportunities you have again 8 or legislative 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19263-1 01:42:01.179 --> 01:42:06.943 level to promote that aspect would be helpful for health care 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19263-2 01:42:06.943 --> 01:42:12.708 industry and do you know Deborah Saber from the University of 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19263-3 01:42:12.708 --> 01:42:13.266 Maine? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19269-0 01:42:13.696 --> 01:42:14.246 I don't. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19283-0 01:42:14.816 --> 01:42:17.600 She actually she should be a good person for you to talk to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19283-1 01:42:17.600 --> 01:42:17.786 you. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19292-0 01:42:17.796 --> 01:42:19.586 She's she's a researcher and she focuses. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19307-0 01:42:19.596 --> 01:42:23.046 She's a nurse, but she focuses a lot on medical waste. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19344-0 01:42:23.956 --> 01:42:27.036 So she might be good for you to talk to you and just also just 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19344-1 01:42:27.036 --> 01:42:29.872 get some ideas, because I know we're not as familiar with 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19344-2 01:42:29.872 --> 01:42:31.436 what's generated and what could. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19374-0 01:42:31.476 --> 01:42:34.392 What could be, you know, cut out or replaced with something 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19374-1 01:42:34.392 --> 01:42:37.600 reusable, but I know she knows a lot about that, but she's looked 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19374-2 01:42:37.600 --> 01:42:37.746 at. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19418-0 01:42:38.826 --> 01:42:41.619 I forget the word for it, but basically an isolated isolation 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19418-1 01:42:41.619 --> 01:42:44.232 room where somebody is in, you know, very poor health and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19418-2 01:42:44.232 --> 01:42:46.755 people are they have to basically throw everything away 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19418-3 01:42:46.755 --> 01:42:48.016 as soon as they go in there. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19441-0 01:42:48.026 --> 01:42:50.776 And she's looked at the potential for just do you really 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19441-1 01:42:50.776 --> 01:42:53.816 need to throw it away, or can you just put something clean on? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19445-0 01:42:53.826 --> 01:42:56.136 And so she has. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19472-0 01:42:56.386 --> 01:42:59.354 She has some good numbers on that on the feasibility of that 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19472-1 01:42:59.354 --> 01:43:02.371 and how it doesn't really matter in terms of contamination or 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19472-2 01:43:02.371 --> 01:43:03.296 germs being spread. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19488-0 01:43:03.306 --> 01:43:07.746 So yes, I think if you were you were on the grant. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19507-0 01:43:07.756 --> 01:43:11.728 So I think that I probably have your email anyway, but Jackie 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19507-1 01:43:11.728 --> 01:43:13.266 Elliott has her comment. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19510-0 01:43:15.146 --> 01:43:15.816 You. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19515-0 01:43:15.906 --> 01:43:17.806 I'm so glad to hear. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19527-0 01:43:18.746 --> 01:43:23.906 Healthcare realm being brought into the conversation here. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19540-0 01:43:24.456 --> 01:43:28.126 Umm, I'm not sure who it was that just spoke. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19537-0 01:43:24.466 --> 01:43:24.786 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19566-0 01:43:28.336 --> 01:43:33.545 I'm not certain, but you might want to acquaint yourself with 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19566-1 01:43:33.545 --> 01:43:37.746 an organization known as healthcare without harm. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19613-0 01:43:37.756 --> 01:43:43.126 If you're not familiar with them already, years ago I was 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19613-1 01:43:43.126 --> 01:43:48.681 involved on a national level working with this group with a 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19613-2 01:43:48.681 --> 01:43:54.329 focus of reducing the harm in health care to patients, which 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19613-3 01:43:54.329 --> 01:43:58.866 had a focus on toxic aspects of products to use. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19660-0 01:43:59.176 --> 01:44:03.542 But obviously the mass generation of waste I I do have 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19660-1 01:44:03.542 --> 01:44:08.385 a healthcare background that goes back to the dark ages when 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19645-0 01:44:07.916 --> 01:44:08.096 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19660-2 01:44:08.385 --> 01:44:12.751 our solutions were in glass bottles and our tools were 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19652-0 01:44:11.396 --> 01:44:11.576 Right. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19660-3 01:44:12.751 --> 01:44:15.926 cleaned and sterilized enough to clean. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19685-0 01:44:16.136 --> 01:44:20.477 So it's it's a little different approach today, but it it's 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19685-1 01:44:20.477 --> 01:44:24.456 definitely a sector that needs some serious attention. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19698-0 01:44:24.466 --> 01:44:28.216 So you might want to poke around healthcare without harm. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19706-0 01:44:28.226 --> 01:44:31.566 That might help you find some assistance. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19712-0 01:44:33.696 --> 01:44:34.726 Thank you very much. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19720-0 01:44:34.736 --> 01:44:38.356 Yeah, I work with them, so appreciate it. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19734-0 01:44:49.226 --> 01:44:52.196 Well, I pulled up the next piece on our list. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19764-0 01:44:52.206 --> 01:44:56.116 Just talking about our statutory goals, we have goals to both 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19764-1 01:44:56.116 --> 01:44:59.836 decrease how much we throw away and to recycle or compost. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19774-0 01:45:00.066 --> 01:45:03.536 50% of the waste that we generate every year, uh. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19812-0 01:45:03.546 --> 01:45:07.104 So towns don't have to meet these goals as a state statewide 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19812-1 01:45:07.104 --> 01:45:10.546 goal on an individual basis, but they are required to show 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19812-2 01:45:10.546 --> 01:45:12.646 progress as the statute is written. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19826-0 01:45:13.396 --> 01:45:16.236 Umm, so we're hearing we we are working right. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19880-0 01:45:16.246 --> 01:45:20.017 We've been working on our municipal recycling reports, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19880-1 01:45:20.017 --> 01:45:23.787 which are collected over two years, and there's a huge 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19880-2 01:45:23.787 --> 01:45:27.695 variation in the level of services that are available or 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19880-3 01:45:27.695 --> 01:45:31.740 provided to finance where our community is the budget with 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19880-4 01:45:31.740 --> 01:45:35.716 staff, whether they even have any kind of program at all. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19882-0 01:45:36.316 --> 01:45:36.896 Umm. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19895-0 01:45:37.356 --> 01:45:39.316 And you know, this is the Southern main meeting. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19914-0 01:45:39.326 --> 01:45:42.099 So there's not a lot of people from many rural communities here 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19914-1 01:45:42.099 --> 01:45:43.486 except like you can speak to it. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19944-0 01:45:43.756 --> 01:45:47.112 So we're trying to gather more information on what are the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19944-1 01:45:47.112 --> 01:45:50.467 needs that are impediments to towns for helping to achieve 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19944-2 01:45:50.467 --> 01:45:51.036 this goal. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19967-0 01:45:52.526 --> 01:45:55.364 Have communities tried to increase recycling rates and if 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19967-1 01:45:55.364 --> 01:45:58.006 so, what what did they try and what were the results? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19996-0 01:45:58.016 --> 01:46:00.784 We're just trying to gather information on what's what's 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19996-1 01:46:00.784 --> 01:46:03.698 been successful, what hasn't been more, what are the needs, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/19996-2 01:46:03.698 --> 01:46:05.786 especially in areas like your communities. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20012-0 01:46:07.406 --> 01:46:10.849 Umm well, when you were talking about funding early, I think 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20012-1 01:46:10.849 --> 01:46:11.696 centralization. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20054-0 01:46:12.126 --> 01:46:16.913 Yeah, like you know, our plan is designed to take these recycles 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20054-1 01:46:16.913 --> 01:46:21.332 out of the waste stream, but also make other reuse products 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20054-2 01:46:21.332 --> 01:46:25.456 like gas and looking at fuel and those types of things. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20115-0 01:46:25.866 --> 01:46:29.672 But you know, we've always had the Members that have the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20115-1 01:46:29.672 --> 01:46:33.878 transfer stations that want to do their own cardboard and want 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20115-2 01:46:33.878 --> 01:46:37.884 to do their own paper and or we're doing their own plastics 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20115-3 01:46:37.884 --> 01:46:41.890 and one they just like like he Co main said, you know, they 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20115-4 01:46:41.890 --> 01:46:43.426 can't produce 32 bails. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20146-0 01:46:43.436 --> 01:46:47.307 The truckload paper they can produce three or four and it 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20146-1 01:46:47.307 --> 01:46:51.444 cost them $90.00 to do so, and that includes somebody to come 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20146-2 01:46:51.444 --> 01:46:53.446 and get them and recycle them. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20151-0 01:46:53.516 --> 01:46:54.006 So. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20179-0 01:46:54.066 --> 01:46:56.713 So they want to do the the right thing, but but sometimes it's 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20179-1 01:46:56.713 --> 01:46:59.066 it's causing them to go and rent to do the right thing. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20192-0 01:46:59.816 --> 01:47:03.626 Where in the recycling business volume speaks works? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20234-0 01:47:03.636 --> 01:47:06.717 If you can secure your own contract with the bill or with 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20234-1 01:47:06.717 --> 01:47:09.693 plastics or be grinding plastics, you know, even though 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20234-2 01:47:09.693 --> 01:47:12.987 the markets go up and down, you don't have problems uploading 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20234-3 01:47:12.987 --> 01:47:13.146 it. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20277-0 01:47:13.296 --> 01:47:17.748 If you have polling, if you're a constant supplier to the recipe, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20277-1 01:47:17.748 --> 01:47:21.729 so you know, like I said, our facility is designed to umm, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20277-2 01:47:21.729 --> 01:47:25.304 deal with the regular commodities, but takes so much 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20277-3 01:47:25.304 --> 01:47:26.316 more out of it. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20319-0 01:47:26.546 --> 01:47:30.004 And I think that if we could help our Members with the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20319-1 01:47:30.004 --> 01:47:33.398 centralization, with the transportation of of getting 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20319-2 01:47:33.398 --> 01:47:37.484 things to the facility, I think it would be a big help because I 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20319-3 01:47:37.484 --> 01:47:39.496 know the markets go up and down. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20331-0 01:47:39.686 --> 01:47:42.416 But like I said, I'm not concerned with the markets. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20334-0 01:47:43.736 --> 01:47:45.466 When you have bought. Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20342-0 01:47:45.536 --> 01:47:47.006 And and you're not sensible there. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20374-0 01:47:47.396 --> 01:47:50.435 So I I just think a lot of them have put in the predicament 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20374-1 01:47:50.435 --> 01:47:53.676 where that are still trying to recycle and keep their stuff out 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20374-2 01:47:53.676 --> 01:47:54.486 of waste stream. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20383-0 01:47:54.676 --> 01:47:56.066 It's just cost some fortune. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20404-0 01:47:56.076 --> 01:47:59.376 I mean, they used to put it in there budgets as a positive, as 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20404-1 01:47:59.376 --> 01:48:00.266 a revenue stream. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20413-0 01:48:00.276 --> 01:48:02.256 It hasn't been revenue stream for them for a long time. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20419-0 01:48:04.486 --> 01:48:05.246 A linear on. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20422-0 01:48:07.406 --> 01:48:08.316 Hi Mike. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20442-0 01:48:08.326 --> 01:48:10.159 I just wanna make sure I understood that cause it sounds 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20442-1 01:48:10.159 --> 01:48:11.156 like an interesting idea to me. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20448-0 01:48:11.166 --> 01:48:14.436 Are you suggesting that MRC? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20486-0 01:48:15.106 --> 01:48:19.337 Sorry, I'm sure I'm getting the name wrong that the the new 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20469-0 01:48:18.986 --> 01:48:21.326 Yeah, this. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20486-1 01:48:19.337 --> 01:48:23.638 facility will be excepting a source separated materials from 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20486-2 01:48:23.638 --> 01:48:27.516 its member communities and sort of brokering for them. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20497-0 01:48:28.966 --> 01:48:34.756 So the current contracts that we it it does say that? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20601-0 01:48:35.706 --> 01:48:40.163 MWS Municipal Waste Solutions passed to honor of recycling 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20601-1 01:48:40.163 --> 01:48:44.923 contract so so that is in in in the agreements and yes that is 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20601-2 01:48:44.923 --> 01:48:49.607 one of the the visions that you know if we can sign 3000 tons 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20601-3 01:48:49.607 --> 01:48:54.064 with a a A firm like cascade or somebody like that and our 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20601-4 01:48:54.064 --> 01:48:58.597 Members are trying to recycle an additional between the 115 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20601-5 01:48:58.597 --> 01:49:02.903 communities another 2000 tons and we'd like to pool that 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20601-6 01:49:02.903 --> 01:49:07.512 tonnage in centralized that and then create that that supply 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20601-7 01:49:07.512 --> 01:49:10.836 contract through the one facility with our. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20622-0 01:49:14.286 --> 01:49:16.536 The hub and spoke is what I always think of. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20619-0 01:49:15.976 --> 01:49:16.786 Interesting. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20624-0 01:49:17.136 --> 01:49:17.496 Thank you. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20625-0 01:49:17.296 --> 01:49:19.636 Like thank you. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20651-0 01:49:21.716 --> 01:49:24.860 And I think again, that's the packaging program will 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20651-1 01:49:24.860 --> 01:49:28.419 ultimately have funding for building out infrastructure for 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20651-2 01:49:28.419 --> 01:49:29.546 that kind of thing. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20661-0 01:49:29.556 --> 01:49:34.491 So yeah, I mean it's part of that will be this works right 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20661-1 01:49:34.491 --> 01:49:34.826 now. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20724-0 01:49:34.836 --> 01:49:39.626 So I don't changes, some of them are, which is pretty exciting to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20724-1 01:49:39.626 --> 01:49:44.344 be made to include system, will they be interviewed sciences and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20724-2 01:49:44.344 --> 01:49:48.698 packaging question, but will they be going to entities like 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20724-3 01:49:48.698 --> 01:49:53.198 will they be talking to Mike and becoming and finding out yes 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20724-4 01:49:53.198 --> 01:49:55.956 about their OK their reporting, yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20728-0 01:49:56.066 --> 01:49:58.716 Yeah, yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20739-0 01:49:59.626 --> 01:49:59.956 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20741-0 01:50:01.926 --> 01:50:02.126 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20744-0 01:50:03.036 --> 01:50:04.016 So yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20755-0 01:50:07.876 --> 01:50:09.486 You know, it's first thing is so long hours. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20758-0 01:50:09.816 --> 01:50:10.786 But it is happening. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20761-0 01:50:10.796 --> 01:50:12.806 It's yeah, just takes time. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20767-0 01:50:13.076 --> 01:50:13.816 Thank you for coming. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20780-0 01:50:13.956 --> 01:50:22.016 You guys so much it's different size municipality. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20810-0 01:50:22.786 --> 01:50:26.361 So in South Portland's we are a bigger city and we have more 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20810-1 01:50:26.361 --> 01:50:29.408 funding than a lot of communities and our recycling 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20810-2 01:50:29.408 --> 01:50:30.756 rate is still terrible. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20812-0 01:50:30.766 --> 01:50:31.146 Terrible. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20823-0 01:50:33.136 --> 01:50:36.116 And we've done a lot in terms of outreach and education. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20829-0 01:50:36.166 --> 01:50:37.656 We've worked with domain a lot. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20833-0 01:50:38.156 --> 01:50:38.726 Umm. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20860-0 01:50:39.176 --> 01:50:42.904 And it's really just keeping things the same like Eldritch 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20860-1 01:50:42.904 --> 01:50:46.947 notification has not been enough for us, and we are considering 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20860-2 01:50:46.947 --> 01:50:47.516 our case. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20895-0 01:50:47.526 --> 01:50:51.658 You throw program and we spoke to many other communities that 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20895-1 01:50:51.658 --> 01:50:55.723 do have such program and they're recycling rates are so much 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20895-2 01:50:55.723 --> 01:50:56.856 better than ours. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20917-0 01:50:56.916 --> 01:51:02.019 It seems like that is a huge program that can increase your 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20917-1 01:51:02.019 --> 01:51:05.336 cycling rates and reduce trash output. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20936-0 01:51:05.346 --> 01:51:08.334 So while we're not doing that, it seems like that would be a 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20936-1 01:51:08.334 --> 01:51:09.656 huge thing that would help. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20987-0 01:51:10.146 --> 01:51:14.066 I've also heard from many communities in southern Maine 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20987-1 01:51:14.066 --> 01:51:18.266 that while they have manual trash collection at the moment, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20987-2 01:51:18.266 --> 01:51:22.676 big Hauler around is is asking everyone to switch to automated 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/20987-3 01:51:22.676 --> 01:51:26.666 or they're not going to offer manual collection anymore. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21008-0 01:51:26.736 --> 01:51:29.883 And a lot of the pays you through programs in all of me 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21008-1 01:51:29.883 --> 01:51:31.906 and are based on manual collection. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21031-0 01:51:31.946 --> 01:51:35.823 It's supposed to tags, so looking for a PSU through option 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21031-1 01:51:35.823 --> 01:51:38.846 that is compatible with automated collection. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21055-0 01:51:38.956 --> 01:51:42.964 I think it's going to be huge and Spears, I think the weight 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21055-1 01:51:42.964 --> 01:51:45.526 based is another way they can do that. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21076-0 01:51:45.996 --> 01:51:49.472 I think there are not names that there are communities that have 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21076-1 01:51:49.472 --> 01:51:52.306 passed through that are adapted for that technology. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21090-0 01:51:52.316 --> 01:51:56.786 Yes, it sounds like you have for us, but we'll see. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21092-0 01:51:56.876 --> 01:51:57.746 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21095-0 01:51:57.856 --> 01:51:58.206 Thank you. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21106-0 01:51:58.216 --> 01:52:00.946 That's all any you're on. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21156-0 01:52:02.696 --> 01:52:06.856 I'm I'm wondering if any of the recycling facilities present 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21156-1 01:52:06.856 --> 01:52:11.153 Castellar or Eco main or someone else have done any studies of 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21135-0 01:52:10.176 --> 01:52:10.346 What? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21156-2 01:52:11.153 --> 01:52:15.109 contamination rates pay as you throw versus not because I 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21156-3 01:52:15.109 --> 01:52:19.474 always wonder if it's sometimes just slips into the other other 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21156-4 01:52:19.474 --> 01:52:20.156 container. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21165-0 01:52:23.736 --> 01:52:25.146 I can't answer that for you. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21171-0 01:52:25.156 --> 01:52:26.546 For me, I'd have to. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21174-0 01:52:26.556 --> 01:52:26.926 I'm not. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21191-0 01:52:26.936 --> 01:52:29.442 I'm not recycling guy, but I just have, you know, a lot about 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21191-1 01:52:29.442 --> 01:52:29.846 recycling. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21213-0 01:52:30.586 --> 01:52:34.133 Ah, I'm not sure that we differentiated that, but I'll 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21213-1 01:52:34.133 --> 01:52:37.036 I'll check into it like I can get an answer. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21217-0 01:52:37.046 --> 01:52:37.676 How about that? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21241-0 01:52:37.786 --> 01:52:40.463 OK, I actually have a chart from Eco main, but they're not 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21241-1 01:52:40.463 --> 01:52:42.596 telling me that, but it does demonstrate that. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21265-0 01:52:42.606 --> 01:52:47.576 So I can send it to you as well in the transfer station setting. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21312-0 01:52:47.726 --> 01:52:52.988 With the page you throw out a couple of facilities that worked 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21312-1 01:52:52.988 --> 01:52:57.331 out and initially yes, but usually you have to find 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21312-2 01:52:57.331 --> 01:53:02.259 somebody to be by those bins anyway, and overtime you wear 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21312-3 01:53:02.259 --> 01:53:05.516 them down and they do the right thing. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21326-0 01:53:06.456 --> 01:53:08.706 I think she'll be might have some insight on this too. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21328-0 01:53:08.756 --> 01:53:09.176 OK. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21331-0 01:53:09.186 --> 01:53:09.896 Thank you. Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21347-0 01:53:17.696 --> 01:53:19.706 You've changed into a presenter, Shelby. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21344-0 01:53:20.576 --> 01:53:21.066 Perfect. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21348-0 01:53:21.076 --> 01:53:21.696 Thank you. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21368-0 01:53:21.736 --> 01:53:24.386 I was just gonna say that's an excellent question, Elena. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21379-0 01:53:24.396 --> 01:53:26.846 And I am gonna see if we've done any of those studies. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21394-0 01:53:26.856 --> 01:53:29.183 I don't know right off the top of my head, but I'll look and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21394-1 01:53:29.183 --> 01:53:29.336 see. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21435-0 01:53:32.686 --> 01:53:37.355 I I do know anecdotally and again when I think pay as you 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21435-1 01:53:37.355 --> 01:53:42.588 throw programs start up, there's issues of contamination showing 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21435-2 01:53:42.588 --> 01:53:43.876 up in recycling. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21462-0 01:53:43.886 --> 01:53:48.026 Yes, and I mean the way we deal with it is we treat the whole 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21462-1 01:53:48.026 --> 01:53:51.766 load as MSW and this the towns get charged accordingly. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21482-0 01:53:52.256 --> 01:53:55.945 So the town self police because it's in their vested interest to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21482-1 01:53:55.945 --> 01:53:56.286 do so. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21504-0 01:53:56.616 --> 01:53:59.795 But we have to let them know that that's an issue and they 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21504-1 01:53:59.795 --> 01:54:02.166 will send that educators to that community. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21516-0 01:54:02.556 --> 01:54:04.926 But we're having an issue and see if you know is. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21526-0 01:54:04.936 --> 01:54:08.496 Is it a communication issue or is it something else? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21530-0 01:54:12.696 --> 01:54:13.016 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21549-0 01:54:13.026 --> 01:54:17.056 And not to continuously bring up the the transfer station. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21556-0 01:54:17.066 --> 01:54:18.766 But that's, I think, where my passion lies. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21581-0 01:54:18.776 --> 01:54:25.496 But having a neat, well funded transfer station with educated 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21581-1 01:54:25.496 --> 01:54:31.565 attendees, operators, big signage, it creates a culture 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21581-2 01:54:31.565 --> 01:54:36.226 that has an opportunity to educate people. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21606-0 01:54:36.396 --> 01:54:41.728 Ohh only #2 plastic in that big sizes #2 examples of #2 on the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21606-1 01:54:41.728 --> 01:54:42.236 board. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21612-0 01:54:44.026 --> 01:54:46.126 They see other people recycle more. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21620-0 01:54:48.966 --> 01:54:49.676 Did the same thing. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21667-0 01:54:49.926 --> 01:54:54.267 I would also maybe just while we're on this note, is universal 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21667-1 01:54:54.267 --> 01:54:57.781 like symbols and colors associated with recycling, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21667-2 01:54:57.781 --> 01:55:02.053 because if you go even again, there's discrepancies in what's 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21667-3 01:55:02.053 --> 01:55:05.636 collected in municipal recycling from town to town. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21704-0 01:55:05.746 --> 01:55:09.352 There's also differences in like the type of messaging, so like 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21704-1 01:55:09.352 --> 01:55:12.620 in Scarborough for example, there have been have a yellow 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21704-2 01:55:12.620 --> 01:55:14.536 top in South Portland, it's blue. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21713-0 01:55:14.866 --> 01:55:17.566 In Portland, it's blue and some other communities. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21727-0 01:55:17.576 --> 01:55:20.846 It's easier old container and it can be whatever color you want. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21733-0 01:55:21.156 --> 01:55:22.426 Choose your own adventure. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21750-0 01:55:22.516 --> 01:55:25.791 So I think that those discrepancies make it super 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21750-1 01:55:25.791 --> 01:55:27.166 confusing for people. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21776-0 01:55:27.176 --> 01:55:31.070 And just because you're bin has a yellow talk, does that like 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21776-1 01:55:31.070 --> 01:55:35.026 and and sometimes it's your your bin system is green and blue. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21782-0 01:55:35.396 --> 01:55:36.516 Which one means recycling? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21802-0 01:55:36.526 --> 01:55:41.476 I don't know if it's not like it's not additionally labeled or 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21802-1 01:55:41.476 --> 01:55:43.126 and translatable too. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21845-0 01:55:43.136 --> 01:55:46.071 I think that's also important when you're looking at in some 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21845-1 01:55:46.071 --> 01:55:49.151 of the communities in Southern main, they're a lot more diverse 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21845-2 01:55:49.151 --> 01:55:51.990 populations there, a lot more languages that are spoken in 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21845-3 01:55:51.990 --> 01:55:52.856 those communities. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21889-0 01:55:52.866 --> 01:55:55.630 So I think that kind of accessibility and having like 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21889-1 01:55:55.630 --> 01:55:58.854 it's great, we're going to have a readily recyclable list, but 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21889-2 01:55:58.854 --> 01:56:01.925 also making sure that there's some uniformity and you know, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21889-3 01:56:01.925 --> 01:56:02.846 this is recycling. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21938-0 01:56:02.856 --> 01:56:06.596 This is what recycling looks like, and you know when we're in 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21938-1 01:56:06.596 --> 01:56:10.578 businesses or public spaces, you know, whether it's the recycling 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21938-2 01:56:10.578 --> 01:56:14.439 bin blue that I think is mostly standardized or not, but having 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21938-3 01:56:14.439 --> 01:56:17.576 some sort of consistency, I think it's really cool. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21964-0 01:56:22.316 --> 01:56:27.041 The really is that you guys have ever said, DPR thought about or 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21964-1 01:56:27.041 --> 01:56:30.676 is there a reason you know, effectiveness of and? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21977-0 01:56:30.806 --> 01:56:34.256 But then Hampshire folks do with the training you do a lot. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/21984-0 01:56:34.266 --> 01:56:35.186 You've done a ton of training. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22006-0 01:56:35.196 --> 01:56:38.759 All the trains, almost every transfer person to speak right, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22006-1 01:56:38.759 --> 01:56:42.030 they have a a licensing thing for operators of transfer 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22006-2 01:56:42.030 --> 01:56:42.556 stations. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22024-0 01:56:43.086 --> 01:56:46.059 I wonder if, have you talked to those folks and is there a 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22024-1 01:56:46.059 --> 01:56:46.966 advantage to that? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22034-0 01:56:46.976 --> 01:56:48.366 Do they take it more seriously, though? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22049-0 01:56:49.476 --> 01:56:52.174 Yeah, I I've not talked to other states about the training 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22049-1 01:56:52.174 --> 01:56:52.586 programs. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22062-0 01:56:52.926 --> 01:56:56.536 Ohm, we do have an operator certification program. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22094-0 01:56:56.546 --> 01:56:59.614 It's a voluntary on our part, but it's a way to get the extra 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22094-1 01:56:59.614 --> 01:57:02.138 recognition for taking all of the core courses and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22094-2 01:57:02.138 --> 01:57:04.316 demonstrating a certain level of knowledge. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22115-0 01:57:04.906 --> 01:57:07.746 Some municipalities have seen the value in that and actually 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22115-1 01:57:07.746 --> 01:57:10.446 meet the requirement of their operators to get certified. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22165-0 01:57:11.216 --> 01:57:14.483 Umm, so it's optional for DP that we certainly encourage 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22165-1 01:57:14.483 --> 01:57:18.094 people to participate and then some municipalities like I said 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22165-2 01:57:18.094 --> 01:57:21.590 have seen that value and and make it mandatory for employees 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22165-3 01:57:21.590 --> 01:57:25.086 which isn't something we ask for is probably not a bad idea. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22171-0 01:57:25.336 --> 01:57:26.876 So it's kind of a character. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22174-0 01:57:27.456 --> 01:57:28.116 It is, yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22183-0 01:57:29.666 --> 01:57:31.336 OK, verifications away. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22189-0 01:57:32.266 --> 01:57:34.596 They expire after all the documents they do. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22191-0 01:57:34.866 --> 01:57:35.176 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22193-0 01:57:35.186 --> 01:57:35.356 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22208-0 01:57:35.366 --> 01:57:38.232 So this is an ongoing continuing education requirement to stay 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22208-1 01:57:38.232 --> 01:57:38.596 current. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22226-0 01:57:38.766 --> 01:57:42.187 Brand is actually picking up the reins on that program, so I'll 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22226-1 01:57:42.187 --> 01:57:43.256 click the landfills. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22241-0 01:57:43.266 --> 01:57:45.666 Do the swanna mole, of course. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22288-0 01:57:46.736 --> 01:57:51.161 Of course it's not required, but that's, you know, pretty good 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22288-1 01:57:51.161 --> 01:57:55.235 course for and we do see him a strong correlation between 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22288-2 01:57:55.235 --> 01:57:59.659 people who attend the training sessions and and the the degree 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22288-3 01:57:59.659 --> 01:58:01.626 of compliance of facilities. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22330-0 01:58:02.276 --> 01:58:04.705 I don't know whether that's because we're preaching the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22330-1 01:58:04.705 --> 01:58:07.567 choir or the people that want to come to our classes, wanna do it 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22330-2 01:58:07.567 --> 01:58:09.996 right or for great educators that either way there is a 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22330-3 01:58:09.996 --> 01:58:10.516 correlation. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22336-0 01:58:11.326 --> 01:58:12.556 And when you try to get people involved. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22344-0 01:58:15.636 --> 01:58:16.486 So is there a way? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22372-0 01:58:16.596 --> 01:58:19.416 Is there a funding thing that's not the other people are coming 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22372-1 01:58:19.416 --> 01:58:22.016 and just curious, you know, is there a way to get to help? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22381-0 01:58:22.986 --> 01:58:23.696 What's the funding? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22399-0 01:58:23.706 --> 01:58:26.291 Somehow, for those small communities where people can't 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22399-1 01:58:26.291 --> 01:58:27.676 come, maybe it's not ready to. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22460-0 01:58:27.686 --> 01:58:31.391 Maybe it's not the smoke windows and drop, so they're not just 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22460-1 01:58:31.391 --> 01:58:35.272 assuming that well, we're, we're we're kind of reestablishing the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22460-2 01:58:35.272 --> 01:58:38.624 operator training program after COVID and after staffing 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22460-3 01:58:38.624 --> 01:58:42.388 shortages and with the advent of some teams etcetera, after the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22460-4 01:58:42.388 --> 01:58:45.446 pandemic certainly going to take advantage of that. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22492-0 01:58:45.506 --> 01:58:48.600 And in a similar setting, so I do think to your point, I do 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22492-1 01:58:48.600 --> 01:58:51.951 think that that travel has been an obstacle for some, especially 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22492-2 01:58:51.951 --> 01:58:52.776 the more remote. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22508-0 01:58:53.026 --> 01:58:55.026 There is a spin difficult to get people to. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22535-0 01:58:55.236 --> 01:58:58.445 We typically done trainings in Portland, Augusta, Bangor and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22535-1 01:58:58.445 --> 01:59:01.812 Caribou and you know down East for example, it's a long haul to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22535-2 01:59:01.812 --> 01:59:02.496 any of those. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22552-0 01:59:02.836 --> 01:59:05.718 I think that has been an obstacle just the time and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22552-1 01:59:05.718 --> 01:59:06.826 travel to get there. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22578-0 01:59:06.836 --> 01:59:09.195 So hopefully by doing hybrid sessions or offering more 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22578-1 01:59:09.195 --> 01:59:12.025 virtual trainings, we'll be able to get better participation from 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22578-2 01:59:12.025 --> 01:59:13.226 people who made with tended. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22583-0 01:59:16.066 --> 01:59:16.496 Maybe. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22593-0 01:59:16.506 --> 01:59:20.036 Maybe going having an annually, but maybe like. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22617-0 01:59:20.306 --> 01:59:23.926 I mean having a couple of more remote locations like going and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22617-1 01:59:23.926 --> 01:59:27.259 Washington County like every other year or something like 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22617-2 01:59:27.259 --> 01:59:27.546 that. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22641-0 01:59:27.626 --> 01:59:31.782 So so it gives them an opportunity to but travel so 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22641-1 01:59:31.782 --> 01:59:36.978 far, yeah, they're just a couple transportation still there that 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22641-2 01:59:36.978 --> 01:59:38.656 don't have computers. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22644-0 01:59:39.426 --> 01:59:40.376 There are. Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22650-0 01:59:40.386 --> 01:59:41.896 So there's no emails. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22689-0 01:59:42.216 --> 01:59:44.851 We have been doing some outreach to try to see if, you know, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22689-1 01:59:44.851 --> 01:59:47.615 maybe the operators would come to a public works building or to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22689-2 01:59:47.615 --> 01:59:50.034 the to the town office and use a computer there for the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22689-3 01:59:50.034 --> 01:59:50.466 trainings. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22708-0 01:59:50.476 --> 01:59:53.066 But she's doing some education or some outreach right now to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22708-1 01:59:53.066 --> 01:59:55.316 see, you know, what day of the week might work best. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22732-0 01:59:55.326 --> 01:59:57.356 You know, we've traditionally done these in the spring and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22732-1 01:59:57.356 --> 01:59:59.146 fall outside tourist season because it's less busy. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22744-0 02:00:00.076 --> 02:00:02.436 So we're finding that, you know, depending on how busy we are. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22754-0 02:00:02.446 --> 02:00:03.916 So this is difficult for us to offer it. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22777-0 02:00:03.926 --> 02:00:05.913 So we're looking at you know, is there a day that we must 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22777-1 02:00:05.913 --> 02:00:06.906 transfer stations are closed? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22826-0 02:00:06.916 --> 02:00:09.600 Maybe we could do the training in the summer, you know, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22826-1 02:00:09.600 --> 02:00:12.669 providing more opportunities for people to attend and trying to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22826-2 02:00:12.669 --> 02:00:15.497 lower the hurdles and in terms of having to drive or maybe 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22826-3 02:00:15.497 --> 02:00:18.421 offering the training a little bit more often to give people 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22826-4 02:00:18.421 --> 02:00:19.236 more shots at it. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22834-0 02:00:19.246 --> 02:00:21.736 But yeah, Randy quite a little work on that. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22839-0 02:00:21.746 --> 02:00:22.496 So that's good. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22866-0 02:00:22.546 --> 02:00:25.611 Is it possible there could be some sort of like curriculum 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22866-1 02:00:25.611 --> 02:00:28.676 that's asynchronous that could be done kind of on your own 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22866-2 02:00:28.676 --> 02:00:28.936 time? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22906-0 02:00:29.146 --> 02:00:33.694 Like which I mean there could be, but I think with what's 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22906-1 02:00:33.694 --> 02:00:38.790 valuable with any live classroom setting is the give and take of 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22906-2 02:00:38.790 --> 02:00:39.966 back and forth. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22909-0 02:00:39.976 --> 02:00:41.966 The first gens. Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22968-0 02:00:42.036 --> 02:00:45.487 Yeah, I'm just wondering if it's accessibility is an issue and it 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22968-1 02:00:45.487 --> 02:00:48.676 if it conflicts with the day that the transformation is like 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22968-2 02:00:48.676 --> 02:00:52.075 really busy or or if they're one that they have to oversee a lot 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22968-3 02:00:52.075 --> 02:00:55.265 and they can't just like step away for an extended period of 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22968-4 02:00:55.265 --> 02:00:55.526 time. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22986-0 02:00:55.716 --> 02:00:58.600 That way they can get chunks of it on and on going, and I guess 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/22986-1 02:00:58.600 --> 02:00:59.726 it's better than nothing. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23027-0 02:00:59.736 --> 02:01:03.481 Yeah, but we're going to do that, that initial training, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23027-1 02:01:03.481 --> 02:01:07.751 which is a four hour course, you know a few different times on a 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23027-2 02:01:07.751 --> 02:01:11.956 few different days and try to, you know, we won't hit everyone. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23042-0 02:01:12.046 --> 02:01:15.676 There is something in as much as we can for sure. Certainly. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23054-0 02:01:15.886 --> 02:01:17.996 See, I know the value of the in person. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23140-0 02:01:18.006 --> 02:01:20.577 I think that being able to ask the questions in real time is 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23140-1 02:01:20.577 --> 02:01:23.064 really important, but it's a work in progress, but we have 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23140-2 02:01:23.064 --> 02:01:25.552 had requests and during the pandemic. When couldn't go out 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23140-3 02:01:25.552 --> 02:01:26.226 and do training. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23142-0 02:01:26.766 --> 02:01:29.851 We've actually, you know, I revamped some of the the primary 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23142-1 02:01:29.851 --> 02:01:32.582 training to add more text to it, to make it more self 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23142-2 02:01:32.582 --> 02:01:35.364 explanatory, because usually some of the presenters so 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23142-3 02:01:35.364 --> 02:01:38.095 modified some of the presentations to make them serve 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23142-4 02:01:38.095 --> 02:01:39.916 a little bit better for self study. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23175-0 02:01:40.486 --> 02:01:43.993 But there is a lot of value in presenting in front of the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23175-1 02:01:43.993 --> 02:01:47.561 class, even virtually because the information is there but 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23175-2 02:01:47.561 --> 02:01:50.645 people pick it up differently and there's specific 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23175-3 02:01:50.645 --> 02:01:52.096 circumstances will vary. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23196-0 02:01:52.106 --> 02:01:55.468 And so somebody will inevitably ask a question that, you know, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23196-1 02:01:55.468 --> 02:01:57.816 half the class was thinking and didn't ask. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23263-0 02:01:57.826 --> 02:02:01.000 And so you know the there may be something that doesn't 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23263-1 02:02:01.000 --> 02:02:04.741 necessarily appear on the slides or that we can't anticipate, but 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23263-2 02:02:04.741 --> 02:02:08.084 maybe a very valid question that you know, so whether it's 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23263-3 02:02:08.084 --> 02:02:11.542 physically in the same location or live virtually having the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23263-4 02:02:11.542 --> 02:02:14.772 ability to sort of address those questions that we can't 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23263-5 02:02:14.772 --> 02:02:16.416 anticipate as a lot of value. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23265-0 02:02:17.096 --> 02:02:17.366 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23285-0 02:02:17.416 --> 02:02:19.528 So we we're trying to do it with the human being involves 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23285-1 02:02:19.528 --> 02:02:20.366 somewhere where we can. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23302-0 02:02:20.436 --> 02:02:22.721 But, but you know, to your point, we have, you know, sent 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23302-1 02:02:22.721 --> 02:02:23.706 out the training modules. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23318-0 02:02:23.716 --> 02:02:26.601 What people look at themselves on their own, I think it's, you 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23318-1 02:02:26.601 --> 02:02:28.066 know, better than nothing. Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23320-0 02:02:28.106 --> 02:02:28.706 Yeah, definitely. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23331-0 02:02:37.526 --> 02:02:40.476 Speaking bargain lately, I'm meeting my daughter to see you. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23347-0 02:02:50.616 --> 02:02:52.806 We do want to lose sight of organics either. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23374-0 02:02:52.896 --> 02:02:56.883 So we I think I don't know if everybody heard, but we are 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23374-1 02:02:56.883 --> 02:03:01.077 getting rid of funding through the Climate Pollution Fund to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23374-2 02:03:01.077 --> 02:03:02.246 study food waste. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23395-0 02:03:02.316 --> 02:03:05.073 We initially had two different studies in mind that we were 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23395-1 02:03:05.073 --> 02:03:06.636 hoping to get enough funding for. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23419-0 02:03:08.146 --> 02:03:11.969 It looks like right now we're just gonna be looking at 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23419-1 02:03:11.969 --> 02:03:16.348 generation, so trying to measure and also quantify and and and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23419-2 02:03:16.348 --> 02:03:18.016 qualitative information. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23442-0 02:03:18.026 --> 02:03:22.087 So how much waste is generated within the various sectors once 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23442-1 02:03:22.087 --> 02:03:24.536 the quality and type of the material? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23447-0 02:03:24.746 --> 02:03:26.526 Is it suitable for diversion? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23454-0 02:03:26.706 --> 02:03:28.676 Could it be to over donation? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23469-0 02:03:28.766 --> 02:03:32.981 If not, could it be used to make food products like upcycled 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23469-1 02:03:32.981 --> 02:03:33.396 foods? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23539-0 02:03:33.686 --> 02:03:37.384 Could it go to animal feed or is it not something that's edible 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23539-1 02:03:37.384 --> 02:03:40.967 for anybody and it just needs to go to composing or in Arabic 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23539-2 02:03:40.967 --> 02:03:44.492 digestion, but just trying to gather really good information 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23539-3 02:03:44.492 --> 02:03:47.901 so we know kind of what we're dealing with for in terms of 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23539-4 02:03:47.901 --> 02:03:51.368 food waste specifically, but obviously leave in the yard is 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23539-5 02:03:51.368 --> 02:03:53.506 another big portion of the organics. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23549-0 02:03:53.576 --> 02:03:55.366 It does seem like a lot of towns have. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23618-0 02:03:55.376 --> 02:03:58.501 They're only 10 yard composting, but we don't have great 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23618-1 02:03:58.501 --> 02:04:01.791 information on that because we get about half the municipal 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23618-2 02:04:01.791 --> 02:04:04.752 recycling reports and I would say even with very much 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23618-3 02:04:04.752 --> 02:04:08.152 concerted efforts and outreach to the towns to try to get the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23618-4 02:04:08.152 --> 02:04:11.387 reports in, although we're definitely getting more than we 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23618-5 02:04:11.387 --> 02:04:13.416 do what you guys makes me feel good. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23622-0 02:04:13.426 --> 02:04:15.866 Yeah, don't have I. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23631-0 02:04:16.016 --> 02:04:18.366 Yeah, but means vegans, right? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23664-0 02:04:18.376 --> 02:04:22.801 We do have problems with, you know, Miss Municipalities 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23664-1 02:04:22.801 --> 02:04:27.384 sending in there recycling reports and it's it's a dogged 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23664-2 02:04:27.384 --> 02:04:29.676 battle to get them to report. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23666-0 02:04:30.126 --> 02:04:30.416 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23742-0 02:04:31.466 --> 02:04:34.251 So we, we're we're lacking information on organics 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23742-1 02:04:34.251 --> 02:04:37.472 management currently, but at least this study will give us 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23742-2 02:04:37.472 --> 02:04:40.693 information on how much is generated and then we're hoping 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23742-3 02:04:40.693 --> 02:04:44.242 that the waste characterization, which is a separate buddy study 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23742-4 02:04:44.242 --> 02:04:47.682 also funded through EPA grant money that will be able to get a 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23742-5 02:04:47.682 --> 02:04:50.958 better handle on the organics in the way straight umm as it 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23742-6 02:04:50.958 --> 02:04:51.886 stands currently. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23769-0 02:04:51.896 --> 02:04:56.240 So so that the goal is in that final final, but another 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23769-1 02:04:56.240 --> 02:05:00.506 analysis, an infrastructure analysis, yeah, that says. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23778-0 02:05:00.516 --> 02:05:06.086 OK, thinks the results of the generation characterization. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23790-0 02:05:06.426 --> 02:05:09.116 OK, this is the kind of infrastructure you'll need. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23799-0 02:05:09.406 --> 02:05:12.836 You wanna make these these these improvements? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23801-0 02:05:13.136 --> 02:05:13.766 Umm. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23817-0 02:05:14.116 --> 02:05:18.466 Felt like a universal recipient of those grants that well. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23854-0 02:05:18.476 --> 02:05:21.714 The grants come so the the, the, the two grand one is a is a 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23854-1 02:05:21.714 --> 02:05:24.846 climate grant that we're getting to go into the governor's 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23854-2 02:05:24.846 --> 02:05:28.296 office, that we're getting money for from the governor's office. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23868-0 02:05:28.306 --> 02:05:31.506 'S office so that now with literally will put it on FPL. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23886-0 02:05:31.826 --> 02:05:33.916 But that study it's the same thing with the waste 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23886-1 02:05:33.916 --> 02:05:34.626 characterization. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23893-0 02:05:34.856 --> 02:05:36.626 We're getting the money from P i.e. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23912-0 02:05:36.896 --> 02:05:40.870 Is and we will just turn around and use that money for an RFP 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23912-1 02:05:40.870 --> 02:05:41.126 for. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23921-0 02:05:41.196 --> 02:05:43.286 It's where is the station study? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23928-0 02:05:43.416 --> 02:05:45.106 Where is it being measured from? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23933-0 02:05:45.196 --> 02:05:46.836 Is it just scattered? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23949-0 02:05:46.896 --> 02:05:49.363 It's gonna be kind of the same for the food waste generation 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23949-1 02:05:49.363 --> 02:05:49.606 study. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23978-0 02:05:49.616 --> 02:05:52.964 It's going to be a sampling, so we have a pretty detailed list 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23978-1 02:05:52.964 --> 02:05:56.418 of potential generators and then they're going to have to sample 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23978-2 02:05:56.418 --> 02:05:57.056 at generate. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23989-0 02:05:57.066 --> 02:06:01.858 Some might be a restaurant food processing facility, school, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/23989-1 02:06:01.858 --> 02:06:03.586 hospital, residential. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24025-0 02:06:03.596 --> 02:06:06.305 So there's a big list of entities that they're going to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24025-1 02:06:06.305 --> 02:06:09.354 have to go out and specifically try to estimate how much waste 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24025-2 02:06:09.354 --> 02:06:11.676 their generating and to characterize the waste. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24032-0 02:06:11.686 --> 02:06:15.116 So and what could be done be done with that? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24036-0 02:06:15.386 --> 02:06:18.116 Are you sorry? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24045-0 02:06:18.196 --> 02:06:21.006 Uh, are you getting data from? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24053-0 02:06:22.636 --> 02:06:26.506 Do you get compost station reports? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24074-0 02:06:26.636 --> 02:06:33.083 More easily use the kiosks, not the kiosk of like there is an 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24074-1 02:06:33.083 --> 02:06:35.786 actual report for compost. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24131-0 02:06:35.796 --> 02:06:41.170 Facilities are the entities who fill that out, sending it in 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24131-1 02:06:41.170 --> 02:06:46.192 more so because it's just compost versus the MSW reports 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24131-2 02:06:46.192 --> 02:06:51.214 that in kind of includes everything from municipality of 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24131-3 02:06:51.214 --> 02:06:56.677 thinking, you know, yes, ego mean has uh anaerobic digestion, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24131-4 02:06:56.677 --> 02:06:59.496 they've got food waste drop off. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24137-0 02:06:59.506 --> 02:07:00.986 They're a collection facility. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24147-0 02:07:00.996 --> 02:07:06.046 They report on theirs, but what about the anaerobic digester? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24153-0 02:07:06.056 --> 02:07:07.946 That things were we don't, we don't. We don't. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24159-0 02:07:08.416 --> 02:07:08.866 How much? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24192-0 02:07:09.256 --> 02:07:14.063 How much they get there and then the actual compost facility 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24192-1 02:07:14.063 --> 02:07:18.871 within the state because they all are worth the big ones are 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24192-2 02:07:18.871 --> 02:07:20.526 licensed and do that. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24199-0 02:07:20.576 --> 02:07:21.946 OK, there aren't a lot. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24212-0 02:07:21.956 --> 02:07:26.036 So there is a we don't look at small on farm, right. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24243-0 02:07:26.426 --> 02:07:31.579 So yeah, they larger and then what type, what people are 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24243-1 02:07:31.579 --> 02:07:37.275 doing, like the schools and the hospitals and whatnot for food 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24243-2 02:07:37.275 --> 02:07:41.976 waste generation, like something like that, Jackie. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24246-0 02:07:45.866 --> 02:07:46.206 We did. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24253-0 02:07:49.646 --> 02:07:50.246 Hello, Jackie. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24268-0 02:07:51.816 --> 02:07:54.318 What about the garbage gardens in the world's the smaller 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24268-1 02:07:54.318 --> 02:07:54.706 entities? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24279-0 02:07:54.716 --> 02:07:58.146 Entities, but they're haulers, but they don't actually compost. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24290-0 02:07:58.156 --> 02:08:01.486 But we do, so we just get data from the composters. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24310-0 02:08:01.526 --> 02:08:04.490 OK, so where they take the material then since they think 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24310-1 02:08:04.490 --> 02:08:05.256 it's no longer? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24312-0 02:08:06.016 --> 02:08:06.426 Compost. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24315-0 02:08:06.696 --> 02:08:07.326 Compost. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24318-0 02:08:08.116 --> 02:08:09.346 They're doing it through. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24371-0 02:08:10.716 --> 02:08:16.108 Exeter, Exeter and also through what was main waste solution, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24371-1 02:08:16.108 --> 02:08:21.673 right and they are the license compost facility in Auburn where 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24371-2 02:08:21.673 --> 02:08:26.804 they are mocked a certified and stuff that a lot of it the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24371-3 02:08:26.804 --> 02:08:31.326 residential goes there, the commercial goes to wow. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24403-0 02:08:33.406 --> 02:08:40.078 Recomposed it, yeah, but there are a lot of smaller pop up ones 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24403-1 02:08:40.078 --> 02:08:45.186 like a a big composter in uh like Rockland area. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24427-0 02:08:45.196 --> 02:08:47.978 There are quite a few that are popping up, but I don't know 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24427-1 02:08:47.978 --> 02:08:49.786 where their facilities are processing. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24446-0 02:08:49.796 --> 02:08:53.541 If they're doing it on the site, I think is 1 you're talking 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24446-1 02:08:53.541 --> 02:08:55.506 about permit, and I think a pad. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24449-0 02:08:56.256 --> 02:08:56.866 You're good. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24465-0 02:08:57.126 --> 02:08:59.363 So they're going to be doing some of the processing 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24465-1 02:08:59.363 --> 02:08:59.836 processing. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24469-0 02:08:59.846 --> 02:09:00.296 OK. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24487-0 02:09:00.846 --> 02:09:04.037 So more of that, we need more infrastructure just like that 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24487-1 02:09:04.037 --> 02:09:05.526 because it's too much scale. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24497-0 02:09:05.536 --> 02:09:08.785 But you mentioned mentioned, but they're they're not, so you 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24497-1 02:09:08.785 --> 02:09:10.276 don't have that information. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24502-0 02:09:10.446 --> 02:09:11.156 No, I'm sorry. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24517-0 02:09:11.166 --> 02:09:15.923 It's based on how much food food they take in, so I forget the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24517-1 02:09:15.923 --> 02:09:17.056 exact language. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24522-0 02:09:17.066 --> 02:09:19.966 It's not even have the information. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24525-0 02:09:19.976 --> 02:09:20.566 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24549-0 02:09:20.576 --> 02:09:23.857 We just don't have, we don't collect reporting from the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24549-1 02:09:23.857 --> 02:09:27.256 exempt entities, which would be those that take in under. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24598-0 02:09:27.266 --> 02:09:30.251 I forget that from the cubic yards and the farms going to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24598-1 02:09:30.251 --> 02:09:33.545 quite a lot of it's through the Department of Agriculture, they 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24598-2 02:09:33.545 --> 02:09:36.581 they have a like a compost management plan and they can do 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24598-3 02:09:36.581 --> 02:09:39.566 a fair amount of composting under that without getting DP 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24598-4 02:09:39.566 --> 02:09:39.926 permit. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24622-0 02:09:39.936 --> 02:09:43.245 So we don't have the same data from those as as we do from PDP 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24622-1 02:09:43.245 --> 02:09:44.296 licensed facilities. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24682-0 02:09:46.886 --> 02:09:49.715 So part of looking at the infrastructure would be trying 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24682-1 02:09:49.715 --> 02:09:52.892 to figure out some of this stuff that we don't have information 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24682-2 02:09:52.892 --> 02:09:56.118 on to would just be like where's the infrastructure that we that 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24682-3 02:09:56.118 --> 02:09:59.097 it exists and it's there is a viable option, but we may not 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24682-4 02:09:59.097 --> 02:10:00.536 know all of it at this point. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24713-0 02:10:02.956 --> 02:10:08.620 But I'm the drop off in Portland has really, I mean, curbside 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24713-1 02:10:08.620 --> 02:10:13.096 composting is huge in many southern Maine towns. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24721-0 02:10:15.116 --> 02:10:19.736 However, the drop off in Portland has created more. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24771-0 02:10:21.176 --> 02:10:26.371 Accessibility to and we've had the languages translated, so 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24771-1 02:10:26.371 --> 02:10:31.653 they're posted at the drop off site and literally I send out 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24771-2 02:10:31.653 --> 02:10:37.108 information on it through the solid waste program, even though 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24771-3 02:10:37.108 --> 02:10:42.476 it's run by sustainability to thousands of people every year. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24802-0 02:10:42.906 --> 02:10:47.649 And it it's taken off a lot more than I thought it would for 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24802-1 02:10:47.649 --> 02:10:52.391 people who are like schlepping their stuff versus putting it 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24802-2 02:10:52.391 --> 02:10:53.946 out with your trash. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24817-0 02:10:54.046 --> 02:10:56.086 How many drop off locations do you have in Portland? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24838-0 02:10:56.096 --> 02:11:01.768 Now we have eight with a ninth one in the in the signs are 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24838-1 02:11:01.768 --> 02:11:02.826 being made. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24852-0 02:11:02.836 --> 02:11:07.118 We're going to actually have one at public works umm on Campbell 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24852-1 02:11:07.118 --> 02:11:07.316 Rd. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24862-0 02:11:07.616 --> 02:11:11.816 So that residents can do it, but it is. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24884-0 02:11:11.926 --> 02:11:16.785 It's a growing thing which I was surprised that so many residents 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24884-1 02:11:16.785 --> 02:11:19.656 want to do that, and it's free, right? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24896-0 02:11:19.796 --> 02:11:21.256 It's free when the residents. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24907-0 02:11:21.266 --> 02:11:24.426 Yeah, when you're because you throw the food waste. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24938-0 02:11:24.436 --> 02:11:27.801 Ohh, taking up a lot of space in those bags, so getting that out 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24938-1 02:11:27.801 --> 02:11:30.286 is yes, every new resident who moves into town. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24959-0 02:11:30.296 --> 02:11:33.453 I tell them about it like because they're like, Oh my God, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24959-1 02:11:33.453 --> 02:11:35.326 I have to pay 1750 for trash bags. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24967-0 02:11:38.166 --> 02:11:40.666 So any questions? Better too? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24971-0 02:11:41.076 --> 02:11:42.356 Yeah, the trash. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24973-0 02:11:44.726 --> 02:11:45.096 Huge. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/24983-0 02:11:46.216 --> 02:11:52.086 That's exactly Elena has a comment or question? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25014-0 02:11:53.876 --> 02:11:56.531 Yeah, I was just wondering, you said one's gonna be at public 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25014-1 02:11:56.531 --> 02:11:59.186 works and wondering where the sites are and what you found to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25014-2 02:11:59.186 --> 02:11:59.786 be good sites? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25068-0 02:12:01.186 --> 02:12:07.837 So currently we have a free food waste drop off at each community 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25068-1 02:12:07.837 --> 02:12:14.386 garden and then also location at Fitzpatrick stadium rate behind 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25068-2 02:12:14.386 --> 02:12:20.533 King Middle School and then the other one that is not at no, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25068-3 02:12:20.533 --> 02:12:24.866 they're all community gardens living town. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25123-0 02:12:25.606 --> 02:12:30.051 UM, there are eight drop offs and Fitzpatrick is the only one 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25123-1 02:12:30.051 --> 02:12:34.138 that's not a community garden and it seems to be the low 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25123-2 02:12:34.138 --> 02:12:38.583 location, the new one at Public Works is going to kind of hit 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25123-3 02:12:38.583 --> 02:12:42.526 that end of town where there isn't a community garden. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25149-0 02:12:43.376 --> 02:12:48.138 Payson Park Community Garden is local, but it's not for those 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25149-1 02:12:48.138 --> 02:12:52.363 residents who live way out Washington Ave, and they're 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25149-2 02:12:52.363 --> 02:12:54.206 close to the ballet fly. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25154-0 02:12:57.516 --> 02:12:58.236 Jackie Elliott. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25163-0 02:13:01.976 --> 02:13:02.206 Below. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25160-0 02:13:02.096 --> 02:13:02.756 Thank you. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25184-0 02:13:03.626 --> 02:13:07.647 Umm, I just have to say this has been probably the most hopeful 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25184-1 02:13:07.647 --> 02:13:10.286 conversation of all these meetings today. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25215-0 02:13:11.566 --> 02:13:17.081 It's just obvious that a lot of thought and effort is going into 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25215-1 02:13:17.081 --> 02:13:22.426 the various pieces around what is going to result in improved, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25215-2 02:13:22.426 --> 02:13:25.396 hopefully management of materials. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25220-0 02:13:26.216 --> 02:13:26.646 Umm. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25264-0 02:13:28.696 --> 02:13:33.884 If I I appreciate the data that is being gathered, and I think 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25264-1 02:13:33.884 --> 02:13:38.824 perhaps maybe the department has even today become aware of 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25264-2 02:13:38.824 --> 02:13:43.929 additional data that they might wanna umm collect in order to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25264-3 02:13:43.929 --> 02:13:46.976 come up with a a more thorough plan. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25306-0 02:13:47.386 --> 02:13:52.697 And it's just so important to have a plan with specifics 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25306-1 02:13:52.697 --> 02:13:58.568 because we've got to find the way to move past just responding 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25306-2 02:13:58.568 --> 02:14:03.879 to or a crisis such as the P fast crisis, sludge slides, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25306-3 02:14:03.879 --> 02:14:05.836 Flyers and landfills. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25310-0 02:14:05.846 --> 02:14:06.936 Toxic plumes. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25315-0 02:14:07.306 --> 02:14:08.386 All of those things. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25319-0 02:14:08.986 --> 02:14:09.476 Umm. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25373-0 02:14:10.106 --> 02:14:16.415 And I think we could probably be agreed that strategic planning 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25373-1 02:14:16.415 --> 02:14:22.033 up to now has perhaps not approached it with an analysis 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25373-2 02:14:22.033 --> 02:14:28.046 of that includes precaution, synergistic and impl cumulative 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25373-3 02:14:28.046 --> 02:14:33.566 impacts of our choices about how we manage and dispose. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25393-0 02:14:34.306 --> 02:14:39.181 And I would add, most importantly, the justice aspect 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25381-0 02:14:35.266 --> 02:14:35.586 I mean. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25393-1 02:14:39.181 --> 02:14:43.786 of how these activities get deployed and employed. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25395-0 02:14:44.696 --> 02:14:45.286 Umm. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25438-0 02:14:45.836 --> 02:14:50.813 And surrounding all of this conversation, we have to be 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25438-1 02:14:50.813 --> 02:14:55.524 honest and admit that the legislative and regulatory 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25438-2 02:14:55.524 --> 02:15:01.213 framework I with which we work at this point has primarily been 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25438-3 02:15:01.213 --> 02:15:03.346 established by industry. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25473-0 02:15:04.346 --> 02:15:10.176 Do this limits your abilities as members of the department to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25453-0 02:15:05.756 --> 02:15:05.916 Yes. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25461-0 02:15:09.986 --> 02:15:10.266 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25473-1 02:15:10.176 --> 02:15:15.536 perhaps make better choices and and have the tools to to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25473-2 02:15:15.536 --> 02:15:16.946 implement them? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25498-0 02:15:18.186 --> 02:15:22.840 The other thing I think we probably should acknowledge, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25498-1 02:15:22.840 --> 02:15:28.075 honestly, we keep referring to, you know, moving things up the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25498-2 02:15:28.075 --> 02:15:28.906 hierarchy. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25536-0 02:15:30.206 --> 02:15:34.560 And I think we, if we're honest, we're gonna have to admit that 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25536-1 02:15:34.560 --> 02:15:38.643 we're not gonna be able to divert or recycle our way out of 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25536-2 02:15:38.643 --> 02:15:41.296 this mess at the top of the hierarchy. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25539-0 02:15:41.346 --> 02:15:42.236 Should be the word. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25541-0 02:15:42.246 --> 02:15:42.646 Rethink. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25552-0 02:15:44.276 --> 02:15:48.856 Uh, we need to focus and shift our choices. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25578-0 02:15:48.866 --> 02:15:53.140 That was gonna be required to consume less, and we're gonna 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25569-0 02:15:52.186 --> 02:15:52.336 Like. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25578-1 02:15:53.140 --> 02:15:56.916 have to turn away from needlessly wasteful outcomes. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25592-0 02:15:58.416 --> 02:16:06.026 It must be choosing to to waste less and let's not get overly. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25627-0 02:16:07.536 --> 02:16:12.043 Focused on individual choices here as being the root of the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25608-0 02:16:10.676 --> 02:16:10.856 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25627-1 02:16:12.043 --> 02:16:16.475 problem, because as individuals and consumers, we make our 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25627-2 02:16:16.475 --> 02:16:19.856 choices from the options that are available. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25629-0 02:16:20.856 --> 02:16:21.366 Umm. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25664-0 02:16:21.616 --> 02:16:27.571 Corporate and profit interest primarily Dr Outcomes and I 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25664-1 02:16:27.571 --> 02:16:33.115 would like us to perhaps acknowledge that there is no 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25655-0 02:16:31.606 --> 02:16:31.756 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25664-2 02:16:33.115 --> 02:16:35.476 away for what we waste. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25681-0 02:16:35.486 --> 02:16:38.396 In other words, we there's no place to put it, that it's not a 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25681-1 02:16:38.396 --> 02:16:38.766 problem. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25713-0 02:16:39.986 --> 02:16:44.336 And just as requires that the burdens and benefits of the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25713-1 02:16:44.336 --> 02:16:48.761 decisions we make around are materials, management must be 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25713-2 02:16:48.761 --> 02:16:52.286 echoed, fully shared by all of Maine citizens. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25716-0 02:16:52.696 --> 02:16:54.136 We we can't. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25761-0 02:16:54.476 --> 02:16:59.403 Continue with this model of sacrifice zones with all the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25732-0 02:16:57.266 --> 02:16:57.426 What? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25761-1 02:16:59.403 --> 02:17:04.590 landfills and Penobscot County you know certain communities 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25761-2 02:17:04.590 --> 02:17:09.431 being exposed to the extreme impacts from landfills and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25761-3 02:17:09.431 --> 02:17:13.926 incinerators is it's just not, it's just not right. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25765-0 02:17:15.126 --> 02:17:15.676 Umm. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25826-0 02:17:16.166 --> 02:17:20.709 So with that, I would ask the question if part of the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25779-0 02:17:19.066 --> 02:17:19.466 OK. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25826-1 02:17:20.709 --> 02:17:26.178 conversation could turn to does the DEP have a vision that would 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25826-2 02:17:26.178 --> 02:17:30.890 counteract the obvious stranglehold that Cassella waste 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25826-3 02:17:30.890 --> 02:17:35.096 systems has had on our legislation and regulation 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25826-4 02:17:35.096 --> 02:17:40.313 around the collection of waste processing disposal operations 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25826-5 02:17:40.313 --> 02:17:40.986 in main? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25838-0 02:17:41.056 --> 02:17:43.086 And this is not just me saying this. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25843-0 02:17:43.356 --> 02:17:43.466 Yes. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25891-0 02:17:43.676 --> 02:17:49.862 This has been a matter of study by engineers, experts, academia 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25891-1 02:17:49.862 --> 02:17:55.951 since at least the early 2000s of what we're facing here and a 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25891-2 02:17:55.951 --> 02:18:00.880 question what do you as a department need from the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25891-3 02:18:00.880 --> 02:18:07.066 legislature from regulation to do a better job for all of Maine 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25891-4 02:18:07.066 --> 02:18:07.936 citizens? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25927-0 02:18:09.616 --> 02:18:13.991 And where does the commitment to public health and environmental 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25927-1 02:18:13.991 --> 02:18:17.895 justice for communities already heavily impacted by waste 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25917-0 02:18:15.306 --> 02:18:15.546 He. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25927-2 02:18:17.895 --> 02:18:21.866 processing and disposal come in to the plan going forward? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25952-0 02:18:21.876 --> 02:18:25.941 We that needs to be part of a materials management plan in my 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25952-1 02:18:25.941 --> 02:18:26.466 opinion. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25948-0 02:18:27.746 --> 02:18:28.416 Thank you, Jackie. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25963-0 02:18:28.426 --> 02:18:31.126 I think we have another comment complaint from Elena too. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25964-0 02:18:31.576 --> 02:18:31.856 2. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/25969-0 02:18:34.886 --> 02:18:35.276 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26019-0 02:18:37.936 --> 02:18:42.028 I think one of the things we've noticed in these meetings is 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26019-1 02:18:42.028 --> 02:18:46.321 that in a lot of cases there are there are a number of entities 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26019-2 02:18:46.321 --> 02:18:50.614 throughout the state that feel they don't have a lot of choices 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26019-3 02:18:50.614 --> 02:18:53.566 when it comes to waste management services. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26018-0 02:18:51.446 --> 02:18:51.596 This. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26104-0 02:18:53.576 --> 02:18:57.957 And then we're also aware of a lot of entities in the state 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26036-0 02:18:57.166 --> 02:18:57.396 The. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26104-1 02:18:57.957 --> 02:19:02.557 that, umm, have created their own options for waste management 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26104-2 02:19:02.557 --> 02:19:06.792 services, created their own transfer stations, reasonable 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26104-3 02:19:06.792 --> 02:19:10.808 transfer stations, large regional facilities and and I 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26104-4 02:19:10.808 --> 02:19:15.335 think that one of the reasons that this last meeting has been 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26104-5 02:19:15.335 --> 02:19:19.935 a little bit more positive is because we are in an area of the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26097-0 02:19:19.406 --> 02:19:19.766 Right. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26104-6 02:19:19.935 --> 02:19:24.316 state that has more resources umm to tackle these problems. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26107-0 02:19:25.006 --> 02:19:25.516 Umm. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26147-0 02:19:26.246 --> 02:19:30.075 And you know, I don't know if other people want to respond to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26147-1 02:19:30.075 --> 02:19:34.089 Jackie on this, but I think that one thing that's worth thinking 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26135-0 02:19:31.446 --> 02:19:31.606 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26147-2 02:19:34.089 --> 02:19:36.806 about is which of these things that we see. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26217-0 02:19:36.816 --> 02:19:42.016 These southern main communities being able to do to sort of take 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26217-1 02:19:42.016 --> 02:19:46.496 waste management into their own hands and and not be as 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26217-2 02:19:46.496 --> 02:19:51.056 dependent on other entities in terms of looking at their 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26217-3 02:19:51.056 --> 02:19:55.776 options, which of those, which of those things can be most 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26217-4 02:19:55.776 --> 02:20:00.496 easily translated to other communities in Maine that maybe 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26207-0 02:19:56.216 --> 02:19:56.766 In public. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26217-5 02:20:00.496 --> 02:20:04.096 have fewer resources, different geographies. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26224-0 02:20:03.366 --> 02:20:03.576 The. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26228-0 02:20:04.216 --> 02:20:05.656 So I think that's something to think about. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26233-0 02:20:05.666 --> 02:20:06.706 If anyone has thoughts on that. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26257-0 02:20:18.586 --> 02:20:21.717 Seems like the infrastructure and the collection system is 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26257-1 02:20:21.717 --> 02:20:23.946 what is really what makes the difference. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26263-0 02:20:24.006 --> 02:20:24.286 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26298-0 02:20:24.296 --> 02:20:28.782 Having central regional facilities and where that's not 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26298-1 02:20:28.782 --> 02:20:33.508 feasible, having a hub where people can drop stuff off and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26298-2 02:20:33.508 --> 02:20:38.394 get umm, if that business about right to have this where the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26298-3 02:20:38.394 --> 02:20:39.596 stuff goes but. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26302-0 02:20:41.976 --> 02:20:42.806 Better infrastructure? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26308-0 02:20:48.496 --> 02:20:48.936 Got it. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26341-0 02:20:48.946 --> 02:20:52.646 Does seem like at least the food scrap collection like that seems 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26341-1 02:20:52.646 --> 02:20:56.346 like it's working really well in this area, and now it's starting 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26341-2 02:20:56.346 --> 02:20:57.916 to spread the coastal areas. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26372-0 02:21:00.036 --> 02:21:03.730 There's a lot of room and other areas for it to potentially be 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26372-1 02:21:03.730 --> 02:21:07.013 develop, although if you guys are doing or you're doing 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26372-2 02:21:07.013 --> 02:21:08.186 anaerobic digestion. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26380-0 02:21:08.236 --> 02:21:10.436 So that's the plan for your facility question. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26384-0 02:21:10.476 --> 02:21:11.346 Yeah. Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26401-0 02:21:11.356 --> 02:21:14.146 I mean, they want it before they creating so much. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26417-0 02:21:14.156 --> 02:21:17.269 They hadn't even planned on at that point that flared off, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26417-1 02:21:17.269 --> 02:21:17.586 right? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26428-0 02:21:18.386 --> 02:21:22.446 So at Taylor has a comment. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26482-0 02:21:23.446 --> 02:21:27.336 Hi I I hear a lot about education and such and I have to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26482-1 02:21:27.336 --> 02:21:31.294 applaud Eco main for their website because they do have a 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26482-2 02:21:31.294 --> 02:21:35.457 database where you can select an item or type in an item and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26482-3 02:21:35.457 --> 02:21:38.596 it'll tell you exactly where you can take it. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26516-0 02:21:39.106 --> 02:21:42.975 I think that could maybe, if they'd be willing to share, you 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26516-1 02:21:42.975 --> 02:21:46.526 know, other facilities could do the same thing and just 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26516-2 02:21:46.526 --> 02:21:48.936 customize it to fit their situations. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26521-0 02:21:48.096 --> 02:21:48.246 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26545-0 02:21:49.266 --> 02:21:52.804 A couple of side things is I don't know if you guys have seen 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26545-1 02:21:52.804 --> 02:21:56.056 this documentaries out of Australia called War on waste. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26560-0 02:21:56.326 --> 02:21:59.023 They're hitting the mainstream now, but I've been watching 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26560-1 02:21:59.023 --> 02:21:59.526 season one. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26570-0 02:21:59.886 --> 02:22:02.226 The first three episodes, and it's free on tubi. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26589-0 02:22:02.236 --> 02:22:06.134 If you want to watch it by the way, the first three episodes 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26584-0 02:22:02.306 --> 02:22:02.466 Right. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26589-1 02:22:06.134 --> 02:22:07.476 cover food diversion. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26622-0 02:22:08.586 --> 02:22:12.956 Uh plastics and clothing, which are the main things that have 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26618-0 02:22:09.916 --> 02:22:14.656 And yes, yeah, yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26622-1 02:22:12.956 --> 02:22:17.326 been discussed in these forums about what do we do with this. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26627-0 02:22:17.436 --> 02:22:18.936 And I really admire the Australians. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26638-0 02:22:18.946 --> 02:22:21.726 They're greedy people, but they're no nonsense too. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26691-0 02:22:21.736 --> 02:22:25.325 And it's it can be a little hard to take to watch these 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26691-1 02:22:25.325 --> 02:22:29.171 documentaries because there are quite graphic, but until we 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26691-2 02:22:29.171 --> 02:22:33.209 literally take people in hand and and squeeze them financially 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26691-3 02:22:33.209 --> 02:22:37.439 to charge them more for throwing away food and charging them more 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26691-4 02:22:37.439 --> 02:22:39.106 for buying cheap clothing. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26709-0 02:22:39.536 --> 02:22:44.504 Because once someone starts paying extra for something, it 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26700-0 02:22:39.696 --> 02:22:40.066 Thank you. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26709-1 02:22:44.504 --> 02:22:45.936 loses its allure. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26736-0 02:22:46.046 --> 02:22:49.306 You know you buy cheap clothing cause it's cheap, but if you add 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26736-1 02:22:49.306 --> 02:22:52.415 on a surcharge for diversion, waste diversion for it, then it 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26749-0 02:22:52.016 --> 02:22:55.536 That should work. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26736-2 02:22:52.415 --> 02:22:52.816 doesn't. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26754-0 02:22:52.826 --> 02:22:58.026 It's no longer cheap, you know, so it's just tough love. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26760-0 02:22:58.156 --> 02:23:00.676 And also the story of stuff. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26767-0 02:23:01.086 --> 02:23:02.376 It's a great website. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26779-0 02:23:02.426 --> 02:23:05.496 It's very educational and it's fun for all ages. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26783-0 02:23:05.926 --> 02:23:06.326 Thank you. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26786-0 02:23:08.496 --> 02:23:09.136 Thank you, Kat. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26789-0 02:23:13.366 --> 02:23:13.716 Thanks. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26800-0 02:23:17.666 --> 02:23:19.656 Jason there, it's a I don't know. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26806-0 02:23:20.236 --> 02:23:20.476 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26815-0 02:23:20.566 --> 02:23:22.536 One that looked at my work in the front. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26819-0 02:23:22.716 --> 02:23:23.056 Thank you. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26838-0 02:23:23.066 --> 02:23:27.569 Through it just seems like you need to have composting and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26838-1 02:23:27.569 --> 02:23:30.546 recycling free all excited for you do. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26864-0 02:23:30.596 --> 02:23:33.745 Yeah, you gotta have if you have page, you throw, you need to be 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26864-1 02:23:33.745 --> 02:23:36.846 really aggressive and providing all the alternatives out there, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26864-2 02:23:36.846 --> 02:23:37.476 right. Right. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26867-0 02:23:37.486 --> 02:23:37.686 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26870-0 02:23:37.696 --> 02:23:38.126 Yeah, I can. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26874-0 02:23:38.136 --> 02:23:39.036 People appreciate it. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26884-0 02:23:39.076 --> 02:23:40.486 Yeah, you gotta give them the opportunity. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26902-0 02:23:40.496 --> 02:23:43.761 Yeah, you have to give that outlet for the material that 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26902-1 02:23:43.761 --> 02:23:44.276 they can. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26904-0 02:23:45.236 --> 02:23:45.866 The burner. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26906-0 02:23:46.056 --> 02:23:46.256 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26909-0 02:23:47.296 --> 02:23:47.786 Thank good. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26920-0 02:23:47.796 --> 02:23:53.092 Welcome material looking great collection place to bring up, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26920-1 02:23:53.092 --> 02:23:53.526 yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26925-0 02:23:56.766 --> 02:23:56.996 Right. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26944-0 02:23:57.006 --> 02:24:01.070 Like some of those multi units that are supposed to be 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26944-1 02:24:01.070 --> 02:24:04.026 providing recycling that really aren't. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26969-0 02:24:04.346 --> 02:24:07.630 I've got some residents into food waste drop off at least 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26969-1 02:24:07.630 --> 02:24:10.970 because it doesn't matter if they're in a commercial sized 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26969-2 02:24:10.970 --> 02:24:11.876 building versus. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26986-0 02:24:13.616 --> 02:24:17.106 Family that cause Portland Halls it's own trash and recycling. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26996-0 02:24:17.416 --> 02:24:19.616 We don't contract it all out. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/26998-0 02:24:21.046 --> 02:24:21.166 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27019-0 02:24:21.546 --> 02:24:26.861 So some of those residents who really wouldn't know about it 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27019-1 02:24:26.861 --> 02:24:30.956 have called begging for recycling and whatnot. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27045-0 02:24:30.966 --> 02:24:34.797 So it's it kind of gives another outlet of like, oh, I can't help 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27045-1 02:24:34.797 --> 02:24:36.886 here, but here I can give you that. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27048-0 02:24:39.406 --> 02:24:40.446 OK, you too. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27052-0 02:24:40.666 --> 02:24:41.886 Nice question earlier about. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27078-0 02:24:43.506 --> 02:24:46.409 Pay as you throw and how does that impact the recyclables that 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27078-1 02:24:46.409 --> 02:24:48.436 are actually going in the recycling stream? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27107-0 02:24:48.706 --> 02:24:51.907 I think that was something that I saw a lot while not having 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27107-1 02:24:51.907 --> 02:24:55.109 access to recycling because I would collect my recycling and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27107-2 02:24:55.109 --> 02:24:56.316 add it to other people. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27111-0 02:24:56.786 --> 02:24:57.526 In the neighborhood. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27132-0 02:24:58.206 --> 02:25:04.863 But I just saw so much trash, so much like, you know, for in 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27132-1 02:25:04.863 --> 02:25:07.046 their pizzas, shoes. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27154-0 02:25:07.056 --> 02:25:10.168 I mean, you work in Ukrainian, you've seen everything and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27154-1 02:25:10.168 --> 02:25:12.476 everything that's ever gone and recycling. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27183-0 02:25:13.046 --> 02:25:16.624 So that part was always like, wow, people are avoiding that 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27183-1 02:25:16.624 --> 02:25:20.500 payment for the bags and they're just throwing everything in the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27183-2 02:25:20.500 --> 02:25:21.096 recycling. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27193-0 02:25:21.746 --> 02:25:24.746 The not giving the bags so I don't know. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27222-0 02:25:24.756 --> 02:25:27.545 I don't have an answer for that, and I know that's definitely not 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27222-1 02:25:27.545 --> 02:25:29.997 everyone by any means, but there's a lot of people there, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27222-2 02:25:29.997 --> 02:25:31.476 but they're doing the right thing. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27238-0 02:25:31.486 --> 02:25:36.601 But how do you how do you like manage that part of the problem 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27238-1 02:25:36.601 --> 02:25:36.926 too? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27243-0 02:25:36.936 --> 02:25:37.666 I don't know. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27259-0 02:25:37.876 --> 02:25:41.455 That's where I think transfer stations lend themselves towards 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27259-1 02:25:41.455 --> 02:25:41.966 solution. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27270-0 02:25:42.016 --> 02:25:45.346 Yeah, because there's always somebody standing there, right? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27276-0 02:25:45.356 --> 02:25:46.326 That's a really good point. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27310-0 02:25:46.396 --> 02:25:50.271 Yeah, transient stability issue is just it's an unmanned Dropbox 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27310-1 02:25:50.271 --> 02:25:54.026 curbside and it's curbside to get out of, you know, you're of. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27312-0 02:25:54.276 --> 02:25:54.846 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27333-0 02:25:54.856 --> 02:25:57.671 Well, if you have some typos monitoring you hanging like you 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27333-1 02:25:57.671 --> 02:25:59.056 don't like the tagging system. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27345-0 02:25:59.356 --> 02:26:04.896 Yeah, but that again, like so much, so much pedestrian 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27345-1 02:26:04.896 --> 02:26:07.616 traffic, contaminates also. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27350-0 02:26:07.786 --> 02:26:08.256 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27369-0 02:26:08.726 --> 02:26:13.151 Going from one place to another and US policing it from a 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27369-1 02:26:13.151 --> 02:26:15.516 standpoint of the city of Ohhh. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27379-0 02:26:15.526 --> 02:26:18.756 Wait, you have contamination in your recycling bin. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27416-0 02:26:18.766 --> 02:26:23.076 And they're like, well, I look at the bars in between my 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27416-1 02:26:23.076 --> 02:26:27.689 location and people are just dropping off their pizza slices 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27416-2 02:26:27.689 --> 02:26:28.596 or whatever. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27456-0 02:26:28.606 --> 02:26:32.373 And it's it's frustrating for a lot of people that they can't 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27456-1 02:26:32.373 --> 02:26:36.079 just throw it into a bin, that they're trash bag has already 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27456-2 02:26:36.079 --> 02:26:38.206 been picked up because it's a pay. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27468-0 02:26:38.216 --> 02:26:41.026 As you throw and then they're like, oh, I'm stuck with this. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27477-0 02:26:42.016 --> 02:26:43.416 Wait, what do I do with it? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27515-0 02:26:44.646 --> 02:26:47.828 That just kind of reminds you this might be a little bit off 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27515-1 02:26:47.828 --> 02:26:50.488 topic, but the I can't conversation recently about 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27515-2 02:26:50.488 --> 02:26:53.565 Portland for example and not really having access to trash 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27515-3 02:26:53.565 --> 02:26:53.826 bins. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27536-0 02:26:54.616 --> 02:26:58.521 I don't know if that's ever been a topic or anything like that, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27536-1 02:26:58.521 --> 02:26:59.986 but there's some public. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27540-0 02:27:00.056 --> 02:27:00.356 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27561-0 02:27:00.366 --> 02:27:05.611 Like, yeah, I think that that's really lacking, at least in my 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27561-1 02:27:05.611 --> 02:27:07.526 experience in Portland. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27588-0 02:27:07.796 --> 02:27:10.715 And then the places that do have the like in Portland Trail, you 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27588-1 02:27:10.715 --> 02:27:12.826 know, they they had a trail system with trash. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27591-0 02:27:12.836 --> 02:27:13.746 They were overflowing. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27596-0 02:27:13.796 --> 02:27:14.686 Yeah, all the time, right? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27602-0 02:27:14.696 --> 02:27:15.796 Or they're all the time, right? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27608-0 02:27:18.136 --> 02:27:19.596 We have had good luck with the. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27656-0 02:27:21.336 --> 02:27:27.094 We installed a couple of inground trash bins that pulled 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27656-1 02:27:27.094 --> 02:27:33.357 300 gallons, and it's a special truck they had to build them, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27656-2 02:27:33.357 --> 02:27:36.286 but parks got them installed. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27691-0 02:27:36.296 --> 02:27:41.004 The eastern prom is one example, but they were because our 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27691-1 02:27:41.004 --> 02:27:45.632 regular trash cans we couldn't put enough in those public 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27691-2 02:27:45.632 --> 02:27:47.866 locations when this started. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27695-0 02:27:48.466 --> 02:27:50.836 And you know, we're lacking. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27736-0 02:27:51.716 --> 02:27:55.964 Prove staff to go service those and that was one solution that 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27736-1 02:27:55.964 --> 02:28:00.010 has actually been very they've worked out really well, even 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27736-2 02:28:00.010 --> 02:28:03.786 though they've only been in the ground like six months. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27746-0 02:28:04.776 --> 02:28:08.001 But everybody's always suggesting more public trash 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27746-1 02:28:08.001 --> 02:28:09.056 locations to you. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27770-0 02:28:09.816 --> 02:28:13.643 It's that comes out little basically a little compactor in 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27770-1 02:28:13.643 --> 02:28:16.626 there or yeah, it's like a long bag actually. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27835-0 02:28:16.636 --> 02:28:21.073 And there's a special crane hook that pulls the bag out when it's 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27835-1 02:28:21.073 --> 02:28:24.838 full, but it's got all these sensors, and I'm sure that 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27835-2 02:28:24.838 --> 02:28:29.074 there's gonna be, you know, just like the big belly trash cans 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27835-3 02:28:29.074 --> 02:28:33.376 that have the solar sensors that eventually there's going to be 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27835-4 02:28:33.376 --> 02:28:35.326 parts that might have issues. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27871-0 02:28:35.336 --> 02:28:41.584 But it is in terms of the volume of trash at those locations is 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27871-1 02:28:41.584 --> 02:28:47.246 greatly changed to that or put 30 can't yes, and 30 cans. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27893-0 02:28:47.256 --> 02:28:52.079 Just don't look good when you're trying to be welcome to the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27893-1 02:28:52.079 --> 02:28:53.976 world for your tourists. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27899-0 02:28:55.066 --> 02:28:57.456 Like this, little like. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27912-0 02:28:58.666 --> 02:29:02.156 Compactors that drive around and then those are so cool. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27926-0 02:29:02.166 --> 02:29:04.926 And they just throw it right into it a lot easier. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27936-0 02:29:06.696 --> 02:29:08.856 Elena, you're gonna keep your hand up this time. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27946-0 02:29:12.486 --> 02:29:12.696 No. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27947-0 02:29:13.946 --> 02:29:15.346 I don't want to take us off track. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27954-0 02:29:21.146 --> 02:29:21.476 Is there? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27958-0 02:29:21.706 --> 02:29:22.406 We're off track. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27967-0 02:29:24.486 --> 02:29:26.636 Curious like under the organics. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27983-0 02:29:26.706 --> 02:29:30.858 I know because I know one who posts all the stuff for the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27983-1 02:29:30.858 --> 02:29:31.216 yard. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/27985-0 02:29:31.226 --> 02:29:31.706 Waste. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28011-0 02:29:33.316 --> 02:29:37.370 What other communities are doing like I know South Portland, you 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28011-1 02:29:37.370 --> 02:29:40.676 can take it and drop it off at the transfer station. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28019-0 02:29:40.686 --> 02:29:42.886 And in Portland, it's different. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28025-0 02:29:42.896 --> 02:29:44.406 We've bought a system. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28078-0 02:29:44.446 --> 02:29:49.439 Which system and you get 10 drop offs a year, but some residents 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28078-1 02:29:49.439 --> 02:29:54.125 have so much yard ways they even having the accessibility of 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28078-2 02:29:54.125 --> 02:29:57.659 dropping off free at the transfer station and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28078-3 02:29:57.659 --> 02:30:01.807 participating in the two the spring and fall curbside 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28078-4 02:30:01.807 --> 02:30:04.726 collection, they still have too much. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28081-0 02:30:05.316 --> 02:30:05.986 What if? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28091-0 02:30:06.276 --> 02:30:09.006 What other towns in making you do? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28113-0 02:30:09.076 --> 02:30:13.974 Because most of my research ends up out of state of what places 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28113-1 02:30:13.974 --> 02:30:16.806 are doing for yard waste collection? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28141-0 02:30:17.256 --> 02:30:19.336 Because it's not accepted in food waste. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28162-0 02:30:19.566 --> 02:30:23.300 I I know that there are a number of transfer stations that have 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28162-1 02:30:23.300 --> 02:30:26.976 their own whip in your compost pile, but but I mean, obviously 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28162-2 02:30:26.976 --> 02:30:29.426 Portland is much bigger than most of the. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28175-0 02:30:29.466 --> 02:30:31.196 I mean than any of the other times I think so. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28178-0 02:30:31.206 --> 02:30:32.876 It's a different, different. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28208-0 02:30:32.916 --> 02:30:40.076 We are working with Ego main Umm and we diverted and composed it 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28208-1 02:30:40.076 --> 02:30:46.465 like 35 tons of Christmas trees last year in the month of 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28208-2 02:30:46.465 --> 02:30:47.346 January. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28240-0 02:30:47.356 --> 02:30:51.213 So that's something that we started working on together of 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28240-1 02:30:51.213 --> 02:30:55.202 like, hey, why are we throwing these in the trash truck when 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28240-2 02:30:55.202 --> 02:30:57.686 they're organics and could be reused? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28280-0 02:30:58.156 --> 02:31:01.767 Why not try to come up with a new and they bought a whole 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28280-1 02:31:01.767 --> 02:31:05.689 website now like a whole link of what transfer stations except 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28280-2 02:31:05.689 --> 02:31:08.366 the Christmas tree, drop offs and whatnot. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28323-0 02:31:08.376 --> 02:31:13.069 But it's one of those questions of what's out there in the way 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28323-1 02:31:13.069 --> 02:31:17.390 to stream that can be, could be reused for something else 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28323-2 02:31:17.390 --> 02:31:21.785 instead of taking up space in a landfill or going to waste 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28323-3 02:31:21.785 --> 02:31:22.306 energy. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28326-0 02:31:22.366 --> 02:31:22.556 OK. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28346-0 02:31:25.276 --> 02:31:27.739 And you have to digress too much, but I have a feeling of 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28346-1 02:31:27.739 --> 02:31:28.376 climate change. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28366-0 02:31:28.386 --> 02:31:31.617 We're gonna see even more vegetation showing up because 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28366-1 02:31:31.617 --> 02:31:34.386 the trees getting knocked down and heavy winds. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28370-0 02:31:35.386 --> 02:31:35.846 Yeah, I see. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28385-0 02:31:36.246 --> 02:31:39.156 I live in Waterboro and just driving home yesterday it was. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28394-0 02:31:39.166 --> 02:31:41.846 It was an eye opener. Washed out. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28410-0 02:31:41.856 --> 02:31:44.966 Roads lens down and this is a typical storm. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28424-0 02:31:44.976 --> 02:31:48.816 Now you know we talked about that in a meeting last time too. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28429-0 02:31:48.926 --> 02:31:50.956 It's just preparing for. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28439-0 02:31:50.966 --> 02:31:54.156 Yeah, you natural disaster waste. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28445-0 02:31:54.436 --> 02:31:55.646 And it creates a lot. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28467-0 02:31:56.586 --> 02:31:59.482 Not a lot of things we think about on a day to day, right, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28467-1 02:31:59.482 --> 02:32:00.856 and things that can be hard. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28472-0 02:32:00.866 --> 02:32:02.416 Like they're talking about that. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28484-0 02:32:02.426 --> 02:32:05.060 But if there's a big disaster, it's hard to separate things 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28484-1 02:32:05.060 --> 02:32:05.236 out. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28518-0 02:32:05.246 --> 02:32:08.017 So you can't necessarily go on and like ohh this tree can be 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28518-1 02:32:08.017 --> 02:32:10.606 chipped and this concrete can be separated up with this. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28548-0 02:32:10.616 --> 02:32:13.112 It's like you just need a dumpster because you've got so 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28548-1 02:32:13.112 --> 02:32:15.826 much that you're dealing with because it's an emergency, like 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28548-2 02:32:15.826 --> 02:32:16.746 you're not emergency. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28557-0 02:32:16.756 --> 02:32:18.786 But it's just such an area of devastation. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28581-0 02:32:18.796 --> 02:32:22.676 It's like they just, you know, you need to have some of the you 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28581-1 02:32:22.676 --> 02:32:24.556 need to have a plan beforehand. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28584-0 02:32:24.566 --> 02:32:24.996 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28598-0 02:32:25.006 --> 02:32:28.040 Yes, because if you don't, because then you're just gonna 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28598-1 02:32:28.040 --> 02:32:28.616 have chaos. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28624-0 02:32:28.646 --> 02:32:32.096 Afterwards, which means it will do the easiest thing, which is 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28624-1 02:32:32.096 --> 02:32:34.396 putting the pedal potato and ship it off. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28629-0 02:32:34.806 --> 02:32:35.986 Plus, they won't be. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28664-0 02:32:36.026 --> 02:32:40.224 FEMA won't reimburse you if it's not done putting the spec right 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28664-1 02:32:40.224 --> 02:32:43.904 in the counties have a big role in this, and not all the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28664-2 02:32:43.904 --> 02:32:45.196 counties are active. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28696-0 02:32:46.616 --> 02:32:50.605 I did do a little bit of work with Nash County a while back 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28696-1 02:32:50.605 --> 02:32:54.926 and it was very informative and they actually started on the the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28696-2 02:32:54.926 --> 02:32:56.056 kernel of a plan. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28720-0 02:32:56.066 --> 02:33:00.086 I don't know where it is now, but they better get on with it 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28720-1 02:33:00.086 --> 02:33:01.536 because here it comes. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28732-0 02:33:03.176 --> 02:33:05.076 Can't tell her has something that. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28730-0 02:33:05.776 --> 02:33:06.226 Hi. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28773-0 02:33:06.276 --> 02:33:11.547 Yeah, I'm curious to know where this compost goes from yard 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28773-1 02:33:11.547 --> 02:33:16.994 waste because you don't know what people are putting in their 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28773-2 02:33:16.994 --> 02:33:22.353 yard as far as herbicides and pesticides and feces and other 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28773-3 02:33:22.353 --> 02:33:23.846 things, you know. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28784-0 02:33:23.856 --> 02:33:27.426 So I hope that that isn't being used to grow food. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28795-0 02:33:28.196 --> 02:33:31.736 Uh, that would probably not be a good thing. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28797-0 02:33:32.756 --> 02:33:33.486 Umm. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28832-0 02:33:34.096 --> 02:33:39.512 And as far as chipping, chipping up trees, the asphalt and people 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28832-1 02:33:39.512 --> 02:33:44.601 go by every year and collect branches that are cut off by the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28829-0 02:33:42.166 --> 02:33:42.506 Thank you. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28832-2 02:33:44.601 --> 02:33:46.406 DOT and shred them up. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28861-0 02:33:46.476 --> 02:33:49.861 Maybe you could start a campaign to have people set out trees 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28861-1 02:33:49.861 --> 02:33:53.355 that they've cut from their yard for the aspirin people to just 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28861-2 02:33:53.355 --> 02:33:53.846 shred up. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28876-0 02:33:53.856 --> 02:33:56.266 And what they do is just dump them right back on the land. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28891-0 02:33:56.496 --> 02:34:00.726 So they act as kind of a landfill, and it's free. Thanks. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28894-0 02:34:01.156 --> 02:34:01.416 Thanks. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28899-0 02:34:03.346 --> 02:34:04.166 Can I ask it? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28903-0 02:34:04.546 --> 02:34:05.236 I don't know. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28910-0 02:34:05.366 --> 02:34:07.136 Maybe it's a different. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28919-0 02:34:07.286 --> 02:34:09.266 I guess it is the change of subject a little bit. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28927-0 02:34:10.306 --> 02:34:11.706 Is this a good time for that right? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28930-0 02:34:11.776 --> 02:34:12.126 Sure. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28956-0 02:34:13.876 --> 02:34:18.432 In terms of how the how you see the plane coming together, there 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28956-1 02:34:18.432 --> 02:34:21.166 are a lot of, you know, probably ways. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28996-0 02:34:21.176 --> 02:34:24.136 We've talked a lot about what people generate their homes, but 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28996-1 02:34:24.136 --> 02:34:26.766 that's a piece of the waste stream and there's some big 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28996-2 02:34:26.766 --> 02:34:29.256 commercial stuff that deconstruction stuff, there's, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/28996-3 02:34:29.256 --> 02:34:31.276 you know, the batteries that urban filled. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29005-0 02:34:31.546 --> 02:34:33.316 Uh, that's what shingles. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29010-0 02:34:34.846 --> 02:34:35.476 Keep going. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29017-0 02:34:35.696 --> 02:34:36.876 Well, 10 minutes soil. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29025-0 02:34:37.256 --> 02:34:40.336 Umm, so is is there? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29039-0 02:34:40.346 --> 02:34:43.526 How do you see that being addressed in the in the plan? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29069-0 02:34:45.006 --> 02:34:48.343 I know there's, like you mentioned this this implants for 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29069-1 02:34:48.343 --> 02:34:52.026 some of those they love and big one of course I didn't mention. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29073-0 02:34:52.226 --> 02:34:54.146 That's right, a little bit. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29110-0 02:34:55.386 --> 02:34:58.955 I mean, I think part of the the plan is going to be a update of 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29110-1 02:34:58.955 --> 02:35:02.468 like the these are the materials that are causing issues using 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29110-2 02:35:02.468 --> 02:35:03.806 this is what's in place. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29134-0 02:35:04.626 --> 02:35:07.603 This is these are the issues that we need to like that we 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29134-1 02:35:07.603 --> 02:35:10.016 need to actually come up with a game plan for. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29156-0 02:35:10.096 --> 02:35:15.889 So I think the plan will a lot of the plan will be identifying 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29156-1 02:35:15.889 --> 02:35:18.556 the needs for further action. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29158-0 02:35:19.086 --> 02:35:19.346 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29179-0 02:35:20.366 --> 02:35:25.343 So and I know there's and individually, there's most of 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29179-1 02:35:25.343 --> 02:35:25.876 those. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29225-0 02:35:25.886 --> 02:35:29.626 This is plans for, but I'm not sure there are, you know, but I 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29225-1 02:35:29.626 --> 02:35:33.246 think like like like I mean I think it's what you saying but 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29225-2 02:35:33.246 --> 02:35:36.867 like say like batteries, you know we've identified batteries 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29225-3 02:35:36.867 --> 02:35:39.776 or an issue and the plans going to say you know. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29239-0 02:35:42.546 --> 02:35:45.236 Batteries of issue becomes fires blah blah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29293-0 02:35:45.246 --> 02:35:50.133 You know, these are some ways that the that the state can move 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29293-1 02:35:50.133 --> 02:35:54.710 forward on making this either, you know, ending, expanding 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29293-2 02:35:54.710 --> 02:35:59.675 anyways technically battery, you know expanding the battery, uh 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29293-3 02:35:59.675 --> 02:36:03.476 batteries for collection and that type of thing. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29321-0 02:36:03.486 --> 02:36:08.821 So I mean, a lot of the plan is going to be identifying issues 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29321-1 02:36:08.821 --> 02:36:13.056 that we need legislative action on, right, right. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29334-0 02:36:13.066 --> 02:36:15.396 And and and and it's work. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29364-0 02:36:15.406 --> 02:36:20.578 I mean, and it did that in 19, you know, like the 70s, you 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29364-1 02:36:20.578 --> 02:36:25.136 know, stuff is is is an outcome of somebody, right? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29368-0 02:36:25.146 --> 02:36:26.126 That's right. It is. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29372-0 02:36:26.136 --> 02:36:26.326 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29383-0 02:36:26.336 --> 02:36:29.366 Well, as as well as you know a lot of stuff that's happening. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29386-0 02:36:29.626 --> 02:36:31.326 Yeah, right. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29393-0 02:36:31.336 --> 02:36:32.456 I mean, yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29423-0 02:36:32.466 --> 02:36:37.576 So the plan, it's not gonna necessarily to provide the plan, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29423-1 02:36:37.576 --> 02:36:42.770 but provide the the discussion points for we need to plan for 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29423-2 02:36:42.770 --> 02:36:45.116 these items that won't miss. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29426-0 02:36:45.126 --> 02:36:45.796 It might not have. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29444-0 02:36:45.806 --> 02:36:50.009 It won't have the yeah of repeating myself, but yeah, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29444-1 02:36:50.009 --> 02:36:51.566 yeah, it's gonna be. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29469-0 02:36:53.126 --> 02:36:58.626 And I think we can all say the 2019 one was kind of kind of 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29469-1 02:36:58.626 --> 02:37:03.026 light and we're going to try and improve on it. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29475-0 02:37:03.076 --> 02:37:05.446 So it was also. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29480-0 02:37:06.556 --> 02:37:08.056 Sideswiped by COVID. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29482-0 02:37:08.876 --> 02:37:09.506 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29485-0 02:37:10.396 --> 02:37:10.596 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29542-0 02:37:12.746 --> 02:37:15.905 So how was just curious because, you know that's those are 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29542-1 02:37:15.905 --> 02:37:19.010 expected with that there are a lot of things about what's 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29542-2 02:37:19.010 --> 02:37:22.437 generated in the household, but that's I don't I don't actually 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29542-3 02:37:22.437 --> 02:37:25.596 have an understanding of how much of the array string that 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29542-4 02:37:25.596 --> 02:37:27.416 is, but I know it's only a piece. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29546-0 02:37:28.596 --> 02:37:29.166 Yeah, right. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29560-0 02:37:29.176 --> 02:37:30.973 I mean, that's actually part of the like, the character we 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29560-1 02:37:30.973 --> 02:37:31.156 don't. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29575-0 02:37:31.306 --> 02:37:34.234 And the voice question that is, uh, yeah, part of the waste 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29575-1 02:37:34.234 --> 02:37:35.796 opposite less right part of the. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29596-0 02:37:35.936 --> 02:37:39.264 Waste characterization studies would kind of have an include 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29596-1 02:37:39.264 --> 02:37:42.046 like, you know, you know what, what's residential? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29603-0 02:37:42.056 --> 02:37:44.196 Commercial the secretaries, too. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29613-0 02:37:44.206 --> 02:37:48.136 So you know you can say that you know what? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29633-0 02:37:48.266 --> 02:37:52.599 How much of the waste stream making the landfills and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29633-1 02:37:52.599 --> 02:37:55.166 incinerators is actually coming? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29727-0 02:37:55.276 --> 02:37:59.468 Is actually MSW from our households and how much is it 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29727-1 02:37:59.468 --> 02:38:03.812 actually coming from commercial facilities and and those 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29727-2 02:38:03.812 --> 02:38:08.537 facilities too that we want to have an answer on that because 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29727-3 02:38:08.537 --> 02:38:13.338 you know if if if you municipal if residential municipal waste 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29727-4 02:38:13.338 --> 02:38:18.063 is only 20% and commercial waste is you know 4050% and you're 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29727-5 02:38:18.063 --> 02:38:22.636 trying to make right, right, yeah put your money with them. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29731-0 02:38:23.416 --> 02:38:24.976 Yeah, it is interesting. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29751-0 02:38:24.986 --> 02:38:29.386 I I was a part of a CD materials management work for the demo. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29816-0 02:38:29.396 --> 02:38:32.301 It does, and there was a presentation on deconstruction 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29816-1 02:38:32.301 --> 02:38:35.207 at one point and I don't remember the exact figure, but 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29816-2 02:38:35.207 --> 02:38:38.423 but one of the things that stood out to me was was one of the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29816-3 02:38:38.423 --> 02:38:41.796 presenters said something to the effect that if you, if you demo 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29816-4 02:38:41.796 --> 02:38:45.064 a single single family house, the weight of that house is more 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29816-5 02:38:45.064 --> 02:38:47.866 than the trash of that person produces in a lifetime. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29839-0 02:38:48.666 --> 02:38:51.081 You know, it's sort of interesting to think about that, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29839-1 02:38:51.081 --> 02:38:53.626 but you know that's that's a lot of that's a lot of touch. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29852-0 02:38:53.816 --> 02:38:56.236 It doesn't happen as often every throw something away every day. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29862-0 02:38:56.246 --> 02:38:58.196 Don't care house down every day, but it's just interesting. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29870-0 02:38:58.206 --> 02:39:00.366 That's a pretty significant amount of waste. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29913-0 02:39:00.656 --> 02:39:03.238 And then the point you made about the tenant soils dredge 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29913-1 02:39:03.238 --> 02:39:05.997 material, stuff like that, I think that falls off the radar a 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29913-2 02:39:05.997 --> 02:39:08.267 little bit because it's often associated just with 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29913-3 02:39:08.267 --> 02:39:08.846 construction. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29920-0 02:39:08.856 --> 02:39:11.406 Commercial activity has its own permitting processes. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29971-0 02:39:11.416 --> 02:39:14.097 It goes through things like that, but there's a very 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29971-1 02:39:14.097 --> 02:39:17.335 significant amount of material that needs to find a home and in 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29971-2 02:39:17.335 --> 02:39:20.572 many cases where it may be very lightly contaminated, maybe the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/29971-3 02:39:20.572 --> 02:39:23.456 use of limited landfill space isn't the best use for it. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30002-0 02:39:24.326 --> 02:39:27.376 And there are options through beneficially as permitting and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30002-1 02:39:27.376 --> 02:39:30.276 things like that, but then lining up timing of generation 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30002-2 02:39:30.276 --> 02:39:32.326 and time of need to use it is difficult. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30009-0 02:39:32.336 --> 02:39:33.116 So there are some obstacles. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30020-0 02:39:33.436 --> 02:39:35.986 That's something that probably deserves some further attention. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30024-0 02:39:36.036 --> 02:39:36.526 Yeah, I know. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30045-0 02:39:36.536 --> 02:39:39.244 Like some places have done like, I think like there's some like 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30045-1 02:39:39.244 --> 02:39:40.386 New York City or something. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30087-0 02:39:40.396 --> 02:39:44.430 That's like a I'm not sure if I'm saying everybody, but 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30087-1 02:39:44.430 --> 02:39:48.319 there's like a soil, not contaminated soil bank where 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30087-2 02:39:48.319 --> 02:39:52.713 they store lately contaminated soil until it can then find a 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30087-3 02:39:52.713 --> 02:39:55.306 beneficial use at another facility. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30105-0 02:39:55.316 --> 02:39:57.476 So you don't have this like ohh I gotta get this. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30135-0 02:39:57.826 --> 02:40:00.545 I'm digging this up right now because I'm building a building 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30135-1 02:40:00.545 --> 02:40:03.264 in two weeks and I need to find a home for it, but I guess it 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30135-2 02:40:03.264 --> 02:40:04.316 was simply the landfill. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30183-0 02:40:04.766 --> 02:40:08.062 I can take it someplace for storage and then, you know, use 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30183-1 02:40:08.062 --> 02:40:11.359 it when when it is actually really, it's really it's really 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30183-2 02:40:11.359 --> 02:40:14.820 it's our experience for working in Portland is really tough on 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30183-3 02:40:14.820 --> 02:40:17.787 those with type sites and I can't imagine New York or 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30183-4 02:40:17.787 --> 02:40:18.556 Boston, right? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30216-0 02:40:18.996 --> 02:40:21.511 I mean, yeah, you know, they literally like you can take four 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30216-1 02:40:21.511 --> 02:40:24.026 trucks out a day because that's all you can get in there with 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30216-2 02:40:24.026 --> 02:40:24.716 all the activity. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30229-0 02:40:25.346 --> 02:40:28.946 And you go down to stories and based in the basement. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30232-0 02:40:29.076 --> 02:40:30.306 Yeah, yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30290-0 02:40:30.316 --> 02:40:34.969 I got 100 trucks or whatever it is just to put into perspective, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30290-1 02:40:34.969 --> 02:40:39.407 like 2021, we had around 900,000 tons of MSW, 500,000 tons of 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30290-2 02:40:39.407 --> 02:40:43.774 demo and under 250,000 tons of special waste, which would be 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30290-3 02:40:43.774 --> 02:40:47.496 like the contaminated soils, stuff like that. Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30292-0 02:40:47.626 --> 02:40:48.276 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30296-0 02:40:48.326 --> 02:40:49.046 Yes, I'm sorry. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30305-0 02:40:49.146 --> 02:40:50.496 So I didn't look at it. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30320-0 02:40:50.506 --> 02:40:55.356 That numbers you're like, oh, I wanna decrease my disposal. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30324-0 02:40:55.446 --> 02:40:55.816 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30347-0 02:40:55.826 --> 02:41:00.276 The number the the big, the big one, there is still the unless 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30347-1 02:41:00.276 --> 02:41:02.536 it's huge, but you're not gonna. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30355-0 02:41:02.546 --> 02:41:05.096 But you're talking about pieces of the MSW, right? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30359-0 02:41:05.156 --> 02:41:05.876 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30374-0 02:41:05.886 --> 02:41:11.026 So as opposed to it, and you brought up CMD, which is a huge. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30394-0 02:41:11.376 --> 02:41:14.473 Yeah, I'm not gonna feel comfortable with it with it, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30394-1 02:41:14.473 --> 02:41:16.136 with the reporting on the CD. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30418-0 02:41:17.156 --> 02:41:21.683 Umm, I mean, I would say that what we put out is as good as 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30418-1 02:41:21.683 --> 02:41:23.116 what we did, right? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30431-0 02:41:23.516 --> 02:41:26.316 Yeah, we're limited limited by the reports that we get in. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30445-0 02:41:26.386 --> 02:41:28.856 Yeah, a lot of that goes to misspellings, right? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30465-0 02:41:29.786 --> 02:41:33.796 Well, these reportings come from the facilities that management 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30465-1 02:41:33.796 --> 02:41:35.926 materials that would be you know. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30484-0 02:41:38.586 --> 02:41:43.516 They're paying a fee on CD right to the department, isn't it? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30498-0 02:41:43.526 --> 02:41:46.857 $2.00 a ton or something like that funds the we just went 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30498-1 02:41:46.857 --> 02:41:47.316 through. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30510-0 02:41:47.326 --> 02:41:49.780 All that, yeah, that would be a good source for that 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30510-1 02:41:49.780 --> 02:41:50.336 information. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30521-0 02:41:50.826 --> 02:41:52.756 Yeah, well, that's part of their. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30571-0 02:41:52.766 --> 02:41:55.691 When they report their times as yeah, well, they so they 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30571-1 02:41:55.691 --> 02:41:58.975 actually they pay the fee, but they they pay the fee quarterly, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30571-2 02:41:58.975 --> 02:42:02.003 but they do also at the annually they provide us with what 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30571-3 02:42:02.003 --> 02:42:04.928 they're yeah they're they're time just for the different 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30571-4 02:42:04.928 --> 02:42:05.646 ways. Streams. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30578-0 02:42:07.966 --> 02:42:09.646 Yeah, I think Vincent has crosscheck. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30583-0 02:42:09.656 --> 02:42:10.296 It's crosscheck. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30585-0 02:42:10.306 --> 02:42:11.176 That's good. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30587-0 02:42:11.246 --> 02:42:11.936 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30594-0 02:42:12.126 --> 02:42:13.056 Thank you for bringing that. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30598-0 02:42:13.746 --> 02:42:13.986 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30613-0 02:42:14.916 --> 02:42:17.375 So probably pretty good then I guess it's I think that probably 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30613-1 02:42:17.375 --> 02:42:17.836 pretty good. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30626-0 02:42:19.236 --> 02:42:22.506 Yeah, I guess that's my that's that's not that. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30655-0 02:42:22.516 --> 02:42:25.483 That's my kind of my point is that, you know, you mentioned 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30655-1 02:42:25.483 --> 02:42:27.906 the special waste was that's also a big mix bag. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30665-0 02:42:28.016 --> 02:42:31.106 Yeah, indeed, which is also a mixed bag, right? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30670-0 02:42:31.146 --> 02:42:31.876 It's 500. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30673-0 02:42:32.636 --> 02:42:33.046 Whatever. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30675-0 02:42:33.116 --> 02:42:33.686 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30704-0 02:42:33.776 --> 02:42:41.286 So that's 500 four, 50% of it just said it was 489,661 times. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30706-0 02:42:41.636 --> 02:42:42.156 I don't know. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30711-0 02:42:42.976 --> 02:42:44.136 It's lost a lot. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30713-0 02:42:44.316 --> 02:42:45.046 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30724-0 02:42:45.256 --> 02:42:47.046 Can I ask the group how good you're doing? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30749-0 02:42:47.216 --> 02:42:52.493 Tires because interestingly, we don't get many tires in the MSW 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30749-1 02:42:52.493 --> 02:42:55.626 anything, so they're going somewhere. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30758-0 02:42:56.416 --> 02:42:57.606 They're collection, so I don't. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30764-0 02:42:57.616 --> 02:42:59.086 Walmart is a collection program. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30777-0 02:42:59.096 --> 02:43:02.646 I know the meanest qualities do collect them and send them. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30784-0 02:43:02.656 --> 02:43:03.846 Do you want to talk about tires? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30819-0 02:43:04.576 --> 02:43:09.972 Well, I can tell you I quoted tire prices this morning to our 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30819-1 02:43:09.972 --> 02:43:15.019 resident who was like $100 to take, like for car tires to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30819-2 02:43:15.019 --> 02:43:16.586 Riverside. Unlike. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30857-0 02:43:16.736 --> 02:43:21.641 Yeah, it's really there's not many options in Portland for 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30857-1 02:43:21.641 --> 02:43:26.712 tires, but I think we do get a lot that are illegal dumping, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30857-2 02:43:26.712 --> 02:43:30.786 that we end up paying off. That would go to eco. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30867-0 02:43:30.796 --> 02:43:33.306 But I don't know what what people do with them. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30885-0 02:43:33.506 --> 02:43:36.394 There's someone out when you're going to the entire recycling 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30885-1 02:43:36.394 --> 02:43:37.466 facility in Waterville. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30887-0 02:43:37.876 --> 02:43:38.606 BDS. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30891-0 02:43:38.616 --> 02:43:38.886 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30894-0 02:43:39.206 --> 02:43:40.976 Bob is too good place in there. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30942-0 02:43:41.306 --> 02:43:45.052 Just looking at the the reports that we get Bob settings and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30942-1 02:43:45.052 --> 02:43:48.797 Massachusetts is another big outlet bobs and JP Ruth here in 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30942-2 02:43:48.797 --> 02:43:52.604 Massachusetts it would be is that they're still in the group, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30942-3 02:43:52.604 --> 02:43:54.876 OK, like tire warehouse must have a. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30947-0 02:43:55.006 --> 02:43:55.746 It was very sad. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30967-0 02:43:56.126 --> 02:43:59.790 You gonna solve entire they that that you know they pay a fee for 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30967-1 02:43:59.790 --> 02:44:01.456 taking in the old time, right? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30976-0 02:44:01.466 --> 02:44:02.656 I don't think it's $25. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30984-0 02:44:03.626 --> 02:44:04.526 Yeah, that's right. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30993-0 02:44:04.596 --> 02:44:06.686 So riversides pricing. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/30996-0 02:44:06.696 --> 02:44:06.986 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31011-0 02:44:06.996 --> 02:44:10.501 And it just went up freezing, and that's because of the staff 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31011-1 02:44:10.501 --> 02:44:11.066 to handle. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31061-0 02:44:11.226 --> 02:44:14.549 Yeah, actually in volumes or the the figures I've gotten from 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31061-1 02:44:14.549 --> 02:44:17.391 from BDS tire recycling recently, they're they're in 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31061-2 02:44:17.391 --> 02:44:20.660 Fairfield, I guess at least a couple of years ago, something 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31061-3 02:44:20.660 --> 02:44:23.769 around the couple dollars entire, you know picking up you 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31061-4 02:44:23.769 --> 02:44:25.056 know hundreds at a time. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31090-0 02:44:25.506 --> 02:44:28.674 So their feet to actually take the men is is quite a lot lower 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31090-1 02:44:28.674 --> 02:44:30.786 than some of the facilities are charging. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31095-0 02:44:32.396 --> 02:44:33.036 That's right. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31110-0 02:44:34.016 --> 02:44:35.806 I think that there's a lot of tires getting. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31130-0 02:44:35.896 --> 02:44:38.955 You know, no, I I mean, I'm glad to hear that we have a nice 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31130-1 02:44:38.955 --> 02:44:39.256 visit. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31151-0 02:44:39.266 --> 02:44:43.123 Really nice facility and we were involved in Jeffrey and what do 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31151-1 02:44:43.123 --> 02:44:44.606 they do this right? Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31154-0 02:44:44.616 --> 02:44:45.216 What do they have? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31182-0 02:44:45.226 --> 02:44:50.101 They, they, they, they slow grind it and do what with the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31182-1 02:44:50.101 --> 02:44:54.976 the fuel or they can use it for number tire derived fuel. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31214-0 02:44:54.986 --> 02:44:58.395 They also make specification chips to do like layers and and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31214-1 02:44:58.395 --> 02:45:01.804 protective lining layers and landfills to protect the actual 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31214-2 02:45:01.804 --> 02:45:03.816 membranes and the layer layer down. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31224-0 02:45:03.826 --> 02:45:05.576 They could be used at French drains. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31232-0 02:45:05.946 --> 02:45:08.596 It's more granulated than ship really. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31237-0 02:45:08.676 --> 02:45:08.866 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31251-0 02:45:09.216 --> 02:45:12.036 For the what's cool is that taken out from that too? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31253-0 02:45:12.196 --> 02:45:12.806 Yeah, cool. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31260-0 02:45:12.816 --> 02:45:15.256 That is that the newer technology can do that. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31266-0 02:45:15.316 --> 02:45:15.926 So it's really good. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31269-0 02:45:16.006 --> 02:45:16.256 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31287-0 02:45:17.946 --> 02:45:20.855 Yeah, they they a lot of them get used for for Marius, you 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31287-1 02:45:20.855 --> 02:45:22.186 know constructive purposes. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31297-0 02:45:22.606 --> 02:45:24.656 Ohh and then they got a whole program. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31321-0 02:45:24.846 --> 02:45:27.795 Which of course, this audience will probably appreciate where 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31321-1 02:45:27.795 --> 02:45:29.936 they just get out every time and then comes. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31339-0 02:45:29.946 --> 02:45:32.571 But there's some of them are actually reusable and some of 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31339-1 02:45:32.571 --> 02:45:33.506 them are we together. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31345-0 02:45:33.986 --> 02:45:35.036 So that's the first step. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31356-0 02:45:35.046 --> 02:45:37.946 Those are the first steps which makes a ton of sense. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31361-0 02:45:38.306 --> 02:45:38.936 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31379-0 02:45:39.526 --> 02:45:43.879 And now they're talking about RMA rubber modified asphalt but 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31379-1 02:45:43.879 --> 02:45:46.126 onto roadways and so forth, too. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31429-0 02:45:46.656 --> 02:45:50.579 You can actually put the tires into new asphalt as well, so 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31429-1 02:45:50.579 --> 02:45:54.632 it's not so big in main, but I know for you T is testing some 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31429-2 02:45:54.632 --> 02:45:58.489 of that and it's big in other states around New England as 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31429-3 02:45:58.489 --> 02:45:58.816 well. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31478-0 02:46:00.106 --> 02:46:03.907 The tires on that, but I think most people when they get it, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31478-1 02:46:03.907 --> 02:46:08.019 they just it's just it gives the old ones that give us saying hey 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31478-2 02:46:08.019 --> 02:46:11.758 right, it's just a convenience thing because they know if I 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31478-3 02:46:11.758 --> 02:46:14.686 take these home and I gotta deal with alright. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31502-0 02:46:15.586 --> 02:46:18.866 But I mean, if you had a spare set of winter tires and you sold 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31502-1 02:46:18.866 --> 02:46:20.916 the vehicle, so that's when you end up. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31518-0 02:46:20.926 --> 02:46:24.796 Yeah, that's what they end up on washing today. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31527-0 02:46:25.456 --> 02:46:27.146 And those tires might still be good. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31529-0 02:46:27.286 --> 02:46:28.456 Some of them are. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31535-0 02:46:28.466 --> 02:46:29.676 Yeah, you'd be surprised. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31548-0 02:46:29.686 --> 02:46:33.799 They go to facility that ends up starting through a finished 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31548-1 02:46:33.799 --> 02:46:34.136 well. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31588-0 02:46:34.146 --> 02:46:38.033 We we got a lot we we had the police car and the seven months 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31588-1 02:46:38.033 --> 02:46:42.045 we ran to get tires and what has happened is they were going to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31588-2 02:46:42.045 --> 02:46:45.556 the transfer stations where they're coming from, right. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31591-0 02:46:45.566 --> 02:46:46.196 And they were. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31620-0 02:46:46.206 --> 02:46:50.838 Because what they want to or it will be there just, but it's on 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31620-1 02:46:50.838 --> 02:46:55.542 the unacceptable list and we we gave 3 warnings and then created 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31620-2 02:46:55.542 --> 02:46:55.976 a fee. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31623-0 02:46:57.406 --> 02:46:57.686 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31639-0 02:46:57.696 --> 02:47:00.173 And that because you can't throw stuff back, but you get rid of 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31639-1 02:47:00.173 --> 02:47:00.366 them. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31649-0 02:47:00.406 --> 02:47:01.386 You, you, you could. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31656-0 02:47:01.906 --> 02:47:03.326 You don't want to get rid of, right? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31672-0 02:47:03.336 --> 02:47:05.466 And so we have to transfer and that's what most do. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31709-0 02:47:05.476 --> 02:47:09.007 Most transfer stations back when we looked at when we did this to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31709-1 02:47:09.007 --> 02:47:12.056 the survey, it was between anywhere from 3 to $10 a tire 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31709-2 02:47:12.056 --> 02:47:14.196 pending on whether it had a rim or not. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31741-0 02:47:14.206 --> 02:47:18.647 And then most folks, had it been of some sort with this, with the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31741-1 02:47:18.647 --> 02:47:22.146 tire placing variable, but we we got a ton of them. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31780-0 02:47:22.236 --> 02:47:26.584 It just had to be because it was cheaper and rather than have two 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31780-1 02:47:26.584 --> 02:47:30.603 different groups of ways, just throwing your MSA you know so 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31780-2 02:47:30.603 --> 02:47:32.316 well, we're going to hurt. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31803-0 02:47:32.326 --> 02:47:35.085 You know, they had equipment that wasn't, you know, optimal 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31803-1 02:47:35.085 --> 02:47:37.936 for tire shredding, but could tolerate small number of tires. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31819-0 02:47:37.946 --> 02:47:40.286 OK, so they had a way to deal with it. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31828-0 02:47:40.296 --> 02:47:41.696 Then they were just, you know, boiler fuel. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31830-0 02:47:41.706 --> 02:47:43.376 But that. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31840-0 02:47:43.386 --> 02:47:45.486 Yeah, that's that's that facility specifically. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31846-0 02:47:45.496 --> 02:47:46.586 But not every facility. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31858-0 02:47:46.596 --> 02:47:49.746 So no, but that's the importance of policing your waist. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31887-0 02:47:49.756 --> 02:47:52.741 Because actually when it was going to perk, it was still our 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31887-1 02:47:52.741 --> 02:47:54.846 waist and it was on the unacceptable list. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31927-0 02:47:54.916 --> 02:47:58.079 There was a lot of stuff on the unacceptable list, but there's a 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31927-1 02:47:58.079 --> 02:48:01.096 big difference from burning and it's still going into the use 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31927-2 02:48:01.096 --> 02:48:03.967 and it wasn't just police, so that was a whole reeducation 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31927-3 02:48:03.967 --> 02:48:04.356 program. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31941-0 02:48:04.366 --> 02:48:07.364 When I started with the MRC is well, you shouldn't be sending 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31941-1 02:48:07.364 --> 02:48:07.606 this. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31948-0 02:48:07.616 --> 02:48:08.996 Well, I've been sending 20 years. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31964-0 02:48:10.036 --> 02:48:14.776 You, you know, they told me to put it on the top of the load. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31968-0 02:48:14.786 --> 02:48:15.336 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31975-0 02:48:15.376 --> 02:48:19.626 So by no always on top. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31999-0 02:48:20.806 --> 02:48:23.968 I'm just going to know that we have less than 15 minutes left 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/31999-1 02:48:23.968 --> 02:48:26.416 and I think my laptop is probably going to die. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32013-0 02:48:26.426 --> 02:48:29.776 So our talking points may go away in a few minutes. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32019-0 02:48:29.786 --> 02:48:30.676 The meeting will stay on. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32034-0 02:48:30.886 --> 02:48:33.826 Believe in the limo was jumping into this. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32040-0 02:48:35.156 --> 02:48:36.546 I forget what happens happens. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32058-0 02:48:37.286 --> 02:48:38.166 See you, Alina. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32062-0 02:48:39.076 --> 02:48:40.986 I just wanna make sure the tire discussion is over. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32065-0 02:48:42.076 --> 02:48:42.526 Yep. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32068-0 02:48:42.576 --> 02:48:42.946 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32071-0 02:48:42.956 --> 02:48:43.056 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32142-0 02:48:44.066 --> 02:48:48.453 Am I a couple of times the cost of getting rid of things at the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32078-0 02:48:44.896 --> 02:48:45.416 Speak up. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32142-1 02:48:48.453 --> 02:48:52.908 transfer station came up and I'm wondering if anyone can speak a 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32142-2 02:48:52.908 --> 02:48:57.020 little bit about how it works when and it's probably varies 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32142-3 02:48:57.020 --> 02:49:01.407 from place to place like either a third party is hired or or or 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32142-4 02:49:01.407 --> 02:49:04.971 a contractor is hired to run a transfer station for 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32142-5 02:49:04.971 --> 02:49:07.096 municipality or a municipality. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32152-0 02:49:08.166 --> 02:49:11.216 Contracts with a private transfer station. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32150-0 02:49:09.256 --> 02:49:09.436 Yep. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32158-0 02:49:11.616 --> 02:49:13.196 How does the pricing work? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32170-0 02:49:15.876 --> 02:49:18.266 So I think this will answer your question. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32173-0 02:49:18.276 --> 02:49:19.446 Is a transfer station. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32252-0 02:49:19.456 --> 02:49:23.422 Will have several bins and those bins are provided by the hauler, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32252-1 02:49:23.422 --> 02:49:26.907 and they have a formula that they can figure out how many 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32252-2 02:49:26.907 --> 02:49:30.572 tires fit in that bin in that particular vendor charged, and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32252-3 02:49:30.572 --> 02:49:33.876 by the time, or if it's mattresses or bulky, they know 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32252-4 02:49:33.876 --> 02:49:37.361 what their accounting is for mattresses and bulkiest, and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32252-5 02:49:37.361 --> 02:49:40.666 they have that formula to know what that average been. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32315-0 02:49:40.676 --> 02:49:44.332 It's so it might be $2550 a mattress because they know that 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32315-1 02:49:44.332 --> 02:49:48.109 they're going to pay $110 a ton for bulk keys in that average 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32315-2 02:49:48.109 --> 02:49:51.704 container when it leads there with Hall, and it's going to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32315-3 02:49:51.704 --> 02:49:55.116 cost them, you know, $500.00 or just for rough numbers. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32341-0 02:49:55.126 --> 02:49:58.632 So most transfer stations are run by the municipality and they 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32341-1 02:49:58.632 --> 02:50:01.136 just have a selection of roll off dumpsters. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32405-0 02:50:01.146 --> 02:50:04.592 I mean, most of the MSW is is is configured to the MRC and those 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32405-1 02:50:04.592 --> 02:50:08.038 are going in compactors or some other kind of container, but all 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32405-2 02:50:08.038 --> 02:50:11.378 those other types of waste, in my experience, most of the time 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32405-3 02:50:11.378 --> 02:50:14.399 going into different block containers and they know what 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32405-4 02:50:14.399 --> 02:50:17.156 the time, which is the average time is going to be. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32423-0 02:50:17.166 --> 02:50:20.448 That's how they know what the charge for those items and and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32423-1 02:50:20.448 --> 02:50:21.686 that works, that works. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32432-0 02:50:22.336 --> 02:50:23.106 Yeah, that makes sense. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32474-0 02:50:23.116 --> 02:50:25.789 If if the transfer station is trying to cover their 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32474-1 02:50:25.789 --> 02:50:28.718 operational cost, cost of disposal, cost of staffing and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32474-2 02:50:28.718 --> 02:50:31.545 stuff like that, we discussed pricing a lot during our 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32474-3 02:50:31.545 --> 02:50:34.166 training sessions with transfer station operators. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32510-0 02:50:34.816 --> 02:50:38.273 We don't get involved in the prices that they charge, but we 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32510-1 02:50:38.273 --> 02:50:41.616 find that, you know, some transfer stations in rural areas 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32510-2 02:50:41.616 --> 02:50:43.996 where I'm illegal dumping is really easy. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32547-0 02:50:44.406 --> 02:50:47.290 We'll often charge less than it costs them to handle the ways to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32547-1 02:50:47.290 --> 02:50:49.952 fund the rest through taxes, because if they set the prices 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32547-2 02:50:49.952 --> 02:50:52.436 too high, it provides an incentive for illegal dumping. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32597-0 02:50:52.446 --> 02:50:55.132 So there's a there are a lot of factors that come into play 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32597-1 02:50:55.132 --> 02:50:57.550 depending on where the facilities are located and how 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32597-2 02:50:57.550 --> 02:51:00.325 easy it is to get away with, you know, alternative strategies 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32597-3 02:51:00.325 --> 02:51:02.116 instead of paying and transfer station. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32659-0 02:51:02.126 --> 02:51:04.707 So sometimes just eat it and factor it into taxes because 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32659-1 02:51:04.707 --> 02:51:07.422 they know it's going to end up on the roads and public works 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32659-2 02:51:07.422 --> 02:51:10.360 crews will have to pick it up at at greater expense as opposed to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32659-3 02:51:10.360 --> 02:51:12.897 just maybe not charging or charging less of the transfer 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32659-4 02:51:12.897 --> 02:51:14.766 station that haven't handled it once off. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32686-0 02:51:14.776 --> 02:51:18.810 So it's it's very interesting what one of our experience we 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32675-0 02:51:18.386 --> 02:51:18.586 Right. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32686-1 02:51:18.810 --> 02:51:22.776 noticed from going around is it's just not updated enough. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32690-0 02:51:22.786 --> 02:51:23.146 They don't. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32735-0 02:51:23.156 --> 02:51:27.520 They don't look at it enough and a lot of them like they'd have 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32735-1 02:51:27.520 --> 02:51:31.817 the same price list that have been there for five or six years 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32735-2 02:51:31.817 --> 02:51:32.976 to somebody, wow. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32750-0 02:51:33.046 --> 02:51:36.576 I don't think my question was I wasn't clear on my question. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32781-0 02:51:37.386 --> 02:51:41.520 What I was hoping to understand is so most transfer stations are 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32781-1 02:51:41.520 --> 02:51:45.019 run by municipalities, some municipalities contract an 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32781-2 02:51:45.019 --> 02:51:47.436 entity to run their transfer station. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32791-0 02:51:48.196 --> 02:51:52.066 Other municipalities contract with a private transfer station. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32831-0 02:51:53.036 --> 02:51:59.807 In those cases, I'm wondering and how the contracting to what 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32831-1 02:51:59.807 --> 02:52:05.813 extent the contracting talks about dictates completely 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32807-0 02:52:01.066 --> 02:52:01.206 And. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32831-2 02:52:05.813 --> 02:52:12.474 ignores those charges that a resident sees when they show up 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32831-3 02:52:12.474 --> 02:52:14.986 to get rid of material. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32835-0 02:52:15.036 --> 02:52:15.836 Does that make sense? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32870-0 02:52:17.506 --> 02:52:23.410 So, like so, Portland has a contract with Riverside, right 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32847-0 02:52:17.876 --> 02:52:19.106 Yeah, I think. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32870-1 02:52:23.410 --> 02:52:29.715 and Riverside charges 20 bucks for a television do you said 25 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32853-0 02:52:23.696 --> 02:52:23.986 Right. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32870-2 02:52:29.715 --> 02:52:31.416 bucks for a tire? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32874-0 02:52:31.426 --> 02:52:32.026 All of that. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32887-0 02:52:32.236 --> 02:52:36.756 So so is in Portland contract with Riverside. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32893-0 02:52:36.836 --> 02:52:38.786 Does it say you can charge residents? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32903-0 02:52:38.796 --> 02:52:41.766 This does it say what does it? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32910-0 02:52:41.776 --> 02:52:43.186 Does it not talk about it at all? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32917-0 02:52:43.196 --> 02:52:43.956 How does that work? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32930-0 02:52:45.416 --> 02:52:48.706 Riverside gets to set their own prices. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32969-0 02:52:48.996 --> 02:52:55.271 Portland owns the transportation land and the contract is for 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32969-1 02:52:55.271 --> 02:53:01.749 CPRC to run it, but they get to set their own prices, which for 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/32969-2 02:53:01.749 --> 02:53:05.696 many many years was not even an issue. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33005-0 02:53:07.376 --> 02:53:12.146 For most residents, but since COVID and the swing in 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33005-1 02:53:12.146 --> 02:53:17.186 commodities prices and whatnot, then Riverside has made 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33005-2 02:53:17.186 --> 02:53:22.856 adjustments based on their needs of getting disposing of those 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33005-3 02:53:22.856 --> 02:53:23.936 those items. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33022-0 02:53:23.946 --> 02:53:27.766 But it's not a contract is pretty old, so it's not. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33037-0 02:53:27.906 --> 02:53:30.866 It wasn't something that came into play that I know of. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33053-0 02:53:32.296 --> 02:53:35.093 So if Riverside decided that tomorrow they're going to charge 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33053-1 02:53:35.093 --> 02:53:36.086 100 bucks, they could. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33063-0 02:53:36.096 --> 02:53:37.986 You just might not reap your contract with them. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33073-0 02:53:37.996 --> 02:53:38.736 Is that sort of? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33079-0 02:53:39.966 --> 02:53:41.446 Well, that's way above my pay grade. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33100-0 02:53:43.586 --> 02:53:50.549 I mean, ultimately they are setting the price for the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33100-1 02:53:50.549 --> 02:53:54.546 disposal of items and the city. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33156-0 02:53:56.026 --> 02:53:59.839 I don't know a lot of the ends and outs of the specific 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33156-1 02:53:59.839 --> 02:54:03.993 contract or what I do do is explain how the pricing works or 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33156-2 02:54:03.993 --> 02:54:07.875 what pricing is to residents when they have an item that 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33156-3 02:54:07.875 --> 02:54:11.416 they're like, OK, I really need to dispose of this. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33159-0 02:54:11.426 --> 02:54:12.336 What do I do? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33166-0 02:54:12.346 --> 02:54:13.836 What would the price be? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33188-0 02:54:14.346 --> 02:54:19.053 And a lot of that goes into like if it's a tonnage fee versus 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33188-1 02:54:19.053 --> 02:54:21.786 what's in the back of your vehicle. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33205-0 02:54:23.386 --> 02:54:27.486 But the city doesn't have a lot of stay at this point. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33240-0 02:54:27.986 --> 02:54:33.591 In what pricing is set at with their the company whose contract 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33240-1 02:54:33.591 --> 02:54:39.196 from the facility you don't know about other subcontractors for 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33240-2 02:54:39.196 --> 02:54:42.436 transfer stations and their pricing? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33244-0 02:54:43.286 --> 02:54:43.966 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33259-0 02:54:44.046 --> 02:54:46.806 And we don't have good data on that, Elena, because we don't 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33259-1 02:54:46.806 --> 02:54:47.756 regulate the pricing. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33308-0 02:54:48.066 --> 02:54:51.236 So unless I happen to see a pricing sheet or or you know 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33308-1 02:54:51.236 --> 02:54:54.350 field questions during the training sessions, we rarely 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33308-2 02:54:54.350 --> 02:54:57.520 know what the municipalities or or you know whether they 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33308-3 02:54:57.520 --> 02:54:59.466 contract out or run it themselves. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33362-0 02:54:59.476 --> 02:55:02.269 We rarely know what they're actually charging for anything 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33362-1 02:55:02.269 --> 02:55:05.204 unless we get a a call from a citizen asking and complaining, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33362-2 02:55:05.204 --> 02:55:08.234 and they say the price is this and I don't like it or we see it 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33362-3 02:55:08.234 --> 02:55:10.696 on a on a municipal website or something like that. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33371-0 02:55:10.706 --> 02:55:13.116 But that's not something that we regulate or track. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33393-0 02:55:13.126 --> 02:55:16.084 So we really have, unless it comes up specifically in 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33393-1 02:55:16.084 --> 02:55:19.096 conversation, we often have no idea what they charged. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33477-0 02:55:20.546 --> 02:55:25.948 I am asked sometimes about other doing customer service, other 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33477-1 02:55:25.948 --> 02:55:30.663 disposal options from a resident like is there another 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33477-2 02:55:30.663 --> 02:55:35.893 possibility, in which case I will give out eco means tonnage 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33477-3 02:55:35.893 --> 02:55:41.381 and pricing along with CASELLAS because technically anybody can 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33477-4 02:55:41.381 --> 02:55:46.354 go to any of those facilities but we try not to encourage 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33477-5 02:55:46.354 --> 02:55:51.841 residents to go to go for random little things because it's not 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33477-6 02:55:51.841 --> 02:55:54.156 what their facility is for. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33487-0 02:55:54.276 --> 02:55:55.826 That's to go to Riverside. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33494-0 02:55:56.806 --> 02:55:57.976 We appreciate that, by the way. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33499-0 02:55:57.986 --> 02:55:58.716 Yes, yes. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33526-0 02:55:58.726 --> 02:56:02.671 And I like to explain that that means you're a little vehicle is 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33526-1 02:56:02.671 --> 02:56:06.556 sitting in line with all those big city trash trucks and stuff. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33607-0 02:56:06.726 --> 02:56:11.649 So it is issue so but that's my only option is to OfferUp the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33607-1 02:56:11.649 --> 02:56:16.572 two others who you do not have to be a resident to dispose as 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33607-2 02:56:16.572 --> 02:56:21.574 long as you're going to pay a fee and it's random weird things 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33607-3 02:56:21.574 --> 02:56:26.418 that have gone to somebody who would say, Oh well, maybe eco 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33607-4 02:56:26.418 --> 02:56:31.420 and the waste of energy would be a better option for this item 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33607-5 02:56:31.420 --> 02:56:31.976 versus. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33621-0 02:56:33.536 --> 02:56:38.056 Going to the landfill or whatever, Shelby, you're on. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33641-0 02:56:40.816 --> 02:56:42.556 You're also the, yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33631-0 02:56:41.126 --> 02:56:41.966 Thanks, Jim. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33710-0 02:56:42.046 --> 02:56:46.246 So I just wanted to say like from my perspective of serving 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33710-1 02:56:46.246 --> 02:56:50.586 on town council for 10 years in Hamden and seeing the budgets 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33656-0 02:56:47.036 --> 02:56:47.206 And. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33710-2 02:56:50.586 --> 02:56:54.646 that run through and the decisions that the Councils make 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33710-3 02:56:54.646 --> 02:56:59.126 based on waste disposal fees and what to charge at the transfer 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33710-4 02:56:59.126 --> 02:57:03.606 station, sometimes there is no alignment with what the transfer 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33710-5 02:57:03.606 --> 02:57:07.946 station charges for fees and what the actual cost of disposal 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33710-6 02:57:07.946 --> 02:57:08.156 is. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33718-0 02:57:08.726 --> 02:57:09.916 I've seen this over the years. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33770-0 02:57:11.456 --> 02:57:16.568 Hamden gets a has a transfer station, Casella Halls or I mean 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33770-1 02:57:16.568 --> 02:57:20.937 it's facade waste in our recycling, but the transfer 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33770-2 02:57:20.937 --> 02:57:25.884 station is run by the Public Works Department and we charge 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33770-3 02:57:25.884 --> 02:57:30.336 residents $25 for MSW and $100 for bulky item a year. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33789-0 02:57:30.746 --> 02:57:35.117 That doesn't even come close to the cost of the operational 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33789-1 02:57:35.117 --> 02:57:37.376 budget of the transfer station. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33817-0 02:57:37.706 --> 02:57:42.918 But the Council sees that as the opportunity to pull from the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33817-1 02:57:42.918 --> 02:57:48.213 property tax base and not put any other owners or financing on 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33817-2 02:57:48.213 --> 02:57:49.306 the citizens. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33864-0 02:57:49.706 --> 02:57:53.928 So oftentimes you're councils and your public works directors 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33864-1 02:57:53.928 --> 02:57:58.150 put together those budgets, not focusing on the actual costs, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33841-0 02:57:55.006 --> 02:57:55.226 This. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33864-2 02:57:58.150 --> 02:58:02.100 but what they think is the municipality can bear that the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33864-3 02:58:02.100 --> 02:58:04.756 citizens will will tolerate basically. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33867-0 02:58:11.396 --> 02:58:11.966 Tony Smith. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33931-0 02:58:14.536 --> 02:58:21.513 Hi, the town of Mount Desert and the other five AD towns contract 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33931-1 02:58:21.513 --> 02:58:28.491 separate contracts per town with the privately owned and operated 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33931-2 02:58:28.491 --> 02:58:34.623 transfer station down in Southwest Harbor and the town of 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33931-3 02:58:34.623 --> 02:58:40.754 Mount Desert has its own curbside collection for for MSW, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33931-4 02:58:40.754 --> 02:58:44.666 and that's paid for by the tax base. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33936-0 02:58:44.876 --> 02:58:45.186 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33957-0 02:58:45.116 --> 02:58:50.847 A citizen can a property owner can take MSW to the transfer 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33945-0 02:58:50.156 --> 02:58:50.416 You know. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33957-1 02:58:50.847 --> 02:58:55.146 station and throw it into an identified bin. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33965-0 02:58:55.156 --> 02:58:57.286 Mount Desert, Trenton, Tremont whomever. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34045-0 02:58:58.606 --> 02:59:03.683 And then that gets weighed and we get a a monthly bill which 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/33980-0 02:59:00.726 --> 02:59:00.946 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34045-1 02:59:03.683 --> 02:59:08.760 includes Packer, truck tonnage in the tonnages the homeowner 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34045-2 02:59:08.760 --> 02:59:14.004 dropped off for the rest of the garbage the like a couch chair 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34045-3 02:59:14.004 --> 02:59:18.498 would waste whatever it goes across the scales and is 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34045-4 02:59:18.498 --> 02:59:23.575 measured and the time will pay for up to 2000 pounds of that 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34024-0 02:59:18.576 --> 02:59:18.886 Issue. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34045-5 02:59:23.575 --> 02:59:25.906 material beyond 2000 pounds. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34077-0 02:59:25.916 --> 02:59:30.721 The property owners responsible to pay for that each town has 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34077-1 02:59:30.721 --> 02:59:35.216 its own contract with the transfer station for five years 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34077-2 02:59:35.216 --> 02:59:38.626 and the costs are agreed upon for year one. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34097-0 02:59:38.636 --> 02:59:42.817 And then they're all subject to a CPI increase in January of 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34095-0 02:59:41.706 --> 02:59:41.866 It's. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34097-1 02:59:42.817 --> 02:59:43.776 January, July. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34110-0 02:59:43.786 --> 02:59:50.116 I can't remember for for each of the other items. Uh. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34109-0 02:59:47.746 --> 02:59:47.996 Yes. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34120-0 02:59:52.286 --> 02:59:54.396 That's about it for private. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34130-0 02:59:54.406 --> 02:59:55.576 Let that again, that's. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34163-0 02:59:55.586 --> 03:00:00.037 That's a privately owned uh transfer station and I think I 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34163-1 03:00:00.037 --> 03:00:04.639 might have mentioned the 2nd Saturday of the month of people 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34163-2 03:00:04.639 --> 03:00:09.166 are allowed to take E waste into the facility for disposal. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34169-0 03:00:12.096 --> 03:00:12.456 Thank you. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34170-0 03:00:13.516 --> 03:00:14.106 Thanks, darling. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34178-0 03:00:16.816 --> 03:00:17.866 That was very helpful, Tony. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34180-0 03:00:17.876 --> 03:00:18.196 Thank you. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34188-0 03:00:24.546 --> 03:00:25.626 We'll work our clock. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34247-0 03:00:27.766 --> 03:00:32.479 But if anybody has anything else that they want to discuss that 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34247-1 03:00:32.479 --> 03:00:36.897 we haven't haven't haven't hasn't come up yet and I think I 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34247-2 03:00:36.897 --> 03:00:41.536 have one thing and I know Eric and I have emailed about winter 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34247-3 03:00:41.536 --> 03:00:45.586 household hazardous waste does not exist in the state. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34249-0 03:00:45.596 --> 03:00:45.896 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34255-0 03:00:46.656 --> 03:00:48.436 Uh, it is. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34287-0 03:00:49.746 --> 03:00:54.463 It is an issue at times because, like Riverside, only has a very 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34287-1 03:00:54.463 --> 03:00:59.034 small facility to house stuff over the winter and some of that 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34287-2 03:00:59.034 --> 03:01:00.776 is for the municipality. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34325-0 03:01:01.026 --> 03:01:06.237 But there is a there are a lot of residence who move in or out 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34325-1 03:01:06.237 --> 03:01:11.449 of at least Portland proper that I talked to, who show up at a 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34325-2 03:01:11.449 --> 03:01:13.186 house that is filled. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34356-0 03:01:13.196 --> 03:01:17.495 The real estate agent didn't get it donned out, didn't realize 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34356-1 03:01:17.495 --> 03:01:21.725 that paint and pesticides and all of that couldn't just go in 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34356-2 03:01:21.725 --> 03:01:22.476 the winter. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34383-0 03:01:23.396 --> 03:01:27.974 That's the one thing that we even we talked about maybe like 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34383-1 03:01:27.974 --> 03:01:31.726 once a winter housing like having somebody do it. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34392-0 03:01:34.596 --> 03:01:38.506 But it's nothing I can get traction on quite yet. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34425-0 03:01:38.586 --> 03:01:42.646 I just keep making notes of how many people are calling and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34425-1 03:01:42.646 --> 03:01:46.909 questioning because the Lewiston facility doesn't do it in the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34425-2 03:01:46.909 --> 03:01:47.856 winter either. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34428-0 03:01:47.866 --> 03:01:48.656 Nobody does. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34462-0 03:01:49.426 --> 03:01:55.299 Uh, so it's something that would be helpful, even if it's a once 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34462-1 03:01:55.299 --> 03:02:00.450 a year thing in one or two different places in the state 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34462-2 03:02:00.450 --> 03:02:02.076 during the winter. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34480-0 03:02:02.626 --> 03:02:06.227 Do you think something like the Oxley Pesticide Collection is 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34480-1 03:02:06.227 --> 03:02:08.376 once a year and it's in four places? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34497-0 03:02:08.426 --> 03:02:14.176 So I think it's like Augusta, Bangor, Portland and offices. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34499-0 03:02:14.186 --> 03:02:14.516 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34503-0 03:02:14.526 --> 03:02:14.756 OK. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34505-0 03:02:15.186 --> 03:02:15.496 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34519-0 03:02:15.506 --> 03:02:18.367 So something like that might be helpful if we get it might be 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34519-1 03:02:18.367 --> 03:02:18.736 helpful. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34523-0 03:02:18.746 --> 03:02:19.116 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34547-0 03:02:19.126 --> 03:02:23.366 And I think if Portland is doing it, it's not being publicized 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34547-1 03:02:23.366 --> 03:02:27.336 very much because I don't even know that talking about it. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34563-0 03:02:27.346 --> 03:02:30.426 And I tell everybody about where to send their waste to. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34590-0 03:02:31.356 --> 03:02:36.726 Umm, because that first Saturday of the month is hazardous, waste 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34590-1 03:02:36.726 --> 03:02:40.306 drop off and a lot of people are traveling. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34595-0 03:02:40.316 --> 03:02:41.766 They they're moving out. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34603-0 03:02:41.776 --> 03:02:43.126 They don't want to hold it. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34635-0 03:02:43.596 --> 03:02:48.215 That, yeah, I think I would love to know about those types of 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34635-1 03:02:48.215 --> 03:02:52.686 things or have us included if there's a southern one there. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34642-0 03:02:52.696 --> 03:02:53.796 Yeah, there's registration. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34651-0 03:02:53.806 --> 03:02:55.926 I think that registration might be now. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34657-0 03:02:55.936 --> 03:02:56.886 It's or is it October? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34685-0 03:02:57.086 --> 03:03:00.620 Yeah, they they email you the they they have their collections 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34685-1 03:03:00.620 --> 03:03:03.818 usually happen sometime in October, usually mid October, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34685-2 03:03:03.818 --> 03:03:03.986 OK. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34698-0 03:03:04.026 --> 03:03:07.159 And the Board of Pesticide Control website has the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34698-1 03:03:07.159 --> 03:03:07.896 information. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34706-0 03:03:07.906 --> 03:03:10.196 Did you have to pre register to drop things off? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34717-0 03:03:10.606 --> 03:03:13.326 What they're you know, what's coming into the airport? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34740-0 03:03:14.106 --> 03:03:17.845 Umm, it's generally for unusable or obsolete pesticides and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34740-1 03:03:17.845 --> 03:03:21.210 screen board of Pesticide Control has money for that, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34740-2 03:03:21.210 --> 03:03:21.896 apparently. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34744-0 03:03:22.266 --> 03:03:22.946 OK. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34774-0 03:03:23.276 --> 03:03:27.294 But they don't usually announce the exact dates and stuff until 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34774-1 03:03:27.294 --> 03:03:31.374 probably odd about this time of year August, early September and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34774-2 03:03:31.374 --> 03:03:33.006 collections in in October. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34783-0 03:03:33.116 --> 03:03:34.686 OK, it is limited though. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34794-0 03:03:34.696 --> 03:03:37.146 If there, there's a cap for each event, right? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34797-0 03:03:37.226 --> 03:03:37.716 Umm. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34799-0 03:03:38.006 --> 03:03:38.516 Full stop. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34804-0 03:03:39.026 --> 03:03:40.336 Yeah, I don't know. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34812-0 03:03:40.746 --> 03:03:41.766 I don't know about that. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34831-0 03:03:41.776 --> 03:03:43.822 I I just know you have to preregister and that may be what 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34831-1 03:03:43.822 --> 03:03:44.516 they get rid of the. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34847-0 03:03:44.676 --> 03:03:47.122 Yeah, there's probably some limit to what transport, but 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34847-1 03:03:47.122 --> 03:03:48.796 I'll take large quantities from farms. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34856-0 03:03:48.806 --> 03:03:51.526 Will take 55 gallon drums, but that's a limit to what? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34869-0 03:03:51.896 --> 03:03:54.925 OK, I think it's funded from pesticides sales, is that 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34869-1 03:03:54.925 --> 03:03:55.366 correct? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34877-0 03:03:55.516 --> 03:03:56.226 I get out of jail. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34930-0 03:03:56.446 --> 03:04:01.214 Thank the other because the OK, let's not that we have pesticide 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34930-1 03:04:01.214 --> 03:04:05.983 use in Portland, but that's part of the problem is if we created 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34930-2 03:04:05.983 --> 03:04:09.797 this law rule that pesticides can't be used in now, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34930-3 03:04:09.797 --> 03:04:14.566 everybody's like, oh, well, what do I do with all my crap in the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34930-4 03:04:14.566 --> 03:04:15.226 basement? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34958-0 03:04:18.596 --> 03:04:21.986 Elena, your hand, is it a recent race or? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34959-0 03:04:22.636 --> 03:04:24.326 It's intentionally up and I'll be really quick. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34975-0 03:04:24.336 --> 03:04:29.644 I just am wondering, I've seen I've only seen one municipal 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34975-1 03:04:29.644 --> 03:04:30.706 budget that. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34999-0 03:04:32.156 --> 03:04:36.491 Made clear the amount spent on household hazardous waste 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34990-0 03:04:35.006 --> 03:04:35.346 Nothing. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/34999-1 03:04:36.491 --> 03:04:39.686 relative to the total solid waste budget. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35011-0 03:04:39.836 --> 03:04:42.866 And I'm wondering if you have that cause I was stunned. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35015-0 03:04:42.876 --> 03:04:44.046 How small it was. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35026-0 03:04:47.756 --> 03:04:49.316 I'm I'm speaking to the woman in Portland. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35038-0 03:04:49.326 --> 03:04:50.466 Or anyone else for that matter. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35057-0 03:04:51.066 --> 03:04:55.635 So I can tell you that each of the event in Portland, they host 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35057-1 03:04:55.635 --> 03:04:58.276 it monthly and clean harbors is the. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35089-0 03:05:00.326 --> 03:05:06.169 Transporter the collector for the hazardous waste and each one 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35089-1 03:05:06.169 --> 03:05:11.827 is about 12 to 15,000 every month, and the residents have to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35089-2 03:05:11.827 --> 03:05:13.496 pay the residents. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35108-0 03:05:13.546 --> 03:05:17.637 If you're not a Portland resident, you have to pay, but 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35108-1 03:05:17.637 --> 03:05:21.436 any of the surrounding towns, everybody goes to it. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35120-0 03:05:21.446 --> 03:05:22.756 It's not just Portland. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35137-0 03:05:22.766 --> 03:05:25.790 Most we refer people from all over the state to exactly 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35137-1 03:05:25.790 --> 03:05:27.896 because those are the only two places. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35163-0 03:05:27.936 --> 03:05:32.575 So yeah, so it's about 12 to 15,000 per month that Portland, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35163-1 03:05:32.575 --> 03:05:37.137 the City of Portland, pays and then Portland residents also 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35163-2 03:05:37.137 --> 03:05:38.886 pay, and they drop off. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35170-0 03:05:38.896 --> 03:05:39.706 Yes, OK. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35198-0 03:05:40.456 --> 03:05:44.594 If you're a resident Portland resident with your card, you get 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35198-1 03:05:44.594 --> 03:05:48.076 you can drop off 2/5 gallon units per year for free. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35206-0 03:05:48.816 --> 03:05:51.106 But if you're not a Portland resident, you pay. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35245-0 03:05:51.716 --> 03:05:55.657 The 6:50 a pound or solids and 3:50 a now 650 a gallon for 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35245-1 03:05:55.657 --> 03:05:59.465 liquids and 3:50 a pound for solids I think was the last 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35245-2 03:05:59.465 --> 03:05:59.866 child. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35269-0 03:05:59.876 --> 03:06:04.142 Yeah, but if you're a tenant in an apartment or a rental unit, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35269-1 03:06:04.142 --> 03:06:05.226 you have to pay. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35273-0 03:06:05.336 --> 03:06:06.196 Yeah, right. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35317-0 03:06:06.206 --> 03:06:10.616 Just basically just just the the property owner gets so the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35317-1 03:06:10.616 --> 03:06:14.879 apartment unit they're if it's under 19 units, OK, single 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35317-2 03:06:14.879 --> 03:06:19.216 family up to 19 units get the free disposal of 10 gallons. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35320-0 03:06:19.256 --> 03:06:19.776 So it's great. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35325-0 03:06:20.356 --> 03:06:23.116 Yeah. Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35330-0 03:06:23.826 --> 03:06:24.816 Don't you wanna pitch in? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35337-0 03:06:27.756 --> 03:06:28.606 Yeah, real quick. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35385-0 03:06:28.616 --> 03:06:33.632 Our annual household houses this waste E waste collection is by 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35385-1 03:06:33.632 --> 03:06:38.099 the unit 20 pounds, or five gallons, and that budget for 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35367-0 03:06:35.856 --> 03:06:38.256 This yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35385-2 03:06:38.099 --> 03:06:42.331 where you know time mount Desert, that was a separate 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35385-3 03:06:42.331 --> 03:06:47.269 budget line from solid waste and the solid waste line included 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35385-4 03:06:47.269 --> 03:06:47.896 MSW and. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35395-0 03:06:49.356 --> 03:06:53.686 Stumps everything else, but yeah, so. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35401-0 03:06:53.696 --> 03:06:56.276 So we do break out the hazardous E waste. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35427-0 03:06:57.846 --> 03:07:00.986 Portion of the of the salt of the waste waste stream. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35413-0 03:06:58.996 --> 03:06:59.156 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35422-0 03:07:01.616 --> 03:07:02.646 Do you think you winced? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35452-0 03:07:02.216 --> 03:07:08.976 My household hazardous waste and E waste is one line. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35444-0 03:07:02.686 --> 03:07:06.636 Or hazardous waste, household hazardous waste. But. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35450-0 03:07:10.086 --> 03:07:10.326 I'm just. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35466-0 03:07:11.056 --> 03:07:13.336 You don't separate the household hazardous waste from the waste. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35482-0 03:07:15.616 --> 03:07:18.346 Not in the budget line, but it's paid for differently. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35530-0 03:07:18.356 --> 03:07:21.582 For years, we didn't have to pay for the E waste, the last three 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35530-1 03:07:21.582 --> 03:07:24.460 or four years we've had had to start paying for we get an 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35530-2 03:07:24.460 --> 03:07:27.587 invoice from 1 vendor for the household has this waste and the 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35530-3 03:07:27.587 --> 03:07:29.076 second vendor for the E waste. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35536-0 03:07:31.116 --> 03:07:32.056 So it is separate. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35545-0 03:07:32.066 --> 03:07:33.786 We know what we pay for each each year. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35546-0 03:07:34.586 --> 03:07:34.856 Right. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35561-0 03:07:39.396 --> 03:07:39.936 Thank you, Tony. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35567-0 03:07:41.216 --> 03:07:43.026 Was that and that was that the correct? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35590-0 03:07:43.076 --> 03:07:45.841 Was that the answer to your question or did I misunderstand 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35579-0 03:07:43.226 --> 03:07:43.466 Right. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35590-1 03:07:45.841 --> 03:07:46.486 your question? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35605-0 03:07:46.896 --> 03:07:47.676 Yeah, yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35591-0 03:07:47.236 --> 03:07:47.866 I no it. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35594-0 03:07:47.956 --> 03:07:48.786 It was Tony. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35619-0 03:07:48.796 --> 03:07:51.565 I'm just, I might follow up with you to see if you might be able 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35622-0 03:07:51.016 --> 03:07:51.256 Sure. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35619-1 03:07:51.565 --> 03:07:52.886 to help you with those numbers. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35626-0 03:07:52.946 --> 03:07:54.116 Help me with those numbers. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35633-0 03:07:54.756 --> 03:07:55.356 I'm interested. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35635-0 03:07:55.976 --> 03:07:56.326 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35637-0 03:07:56.326 --> 03:07:56.746 Thank you. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35645-0 03:07:56.336 --> 03:08:00.306 And I'm I think I told you. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35650-0 03:08:00.316 --> 03:08:02.316 I've retired, so I'm working. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35669-0 03:08:02.326 --> 03:08:07.746 I do this from home now and that numbers 2667866. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35673-0 03:08:09.246 --> 03:08:10.266 OK. Thanks. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35675-0 03:08:10.776 --> 03:08:10.976 Yep. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35674-0 03:08:11.406 --> 03:08:11.566 No. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35681-0 03:08:14.556 --> 03:08:16.616 Any other place his phone number? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35689-0 03:08:16.856 --> 03:08:21.456 Cool, you're all the way across the web. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35708-0 03:08:24.236 --> 03:08:27.036 Exactly from the transcript and you. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35699-0 03:08:26.556 --> 03:08:26.856 I'll. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35704-0 03:08:26.866 --> 03:08:27.906 I'll be changing that. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35709-0 03:08:27.916 --> 03:08:28.966 Probably you're right. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35724-0 03:08:29.016 --> 03:08:34.346 Sorry and I fought hard when I retired to keep that number. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35728-0 03:08:34.826 --> 03:08:36.356 Yeah, it did. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35739-0 03:08:37.066 --> 03:08:37.576 And the other. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35747-0 03:08:37.066 --> 03:08:40.586 I'll let you know how it goes. Maybe. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35757-0 03:08:41.426 --> 03:08:45.056 I just because we have different voices in the room. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35797-0 03:08:45.206 --> 03:08:48.684 In the last meeting I talked about potentially the need for 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35797-1 03:08:48.684 --> 03:08:52.452 more coordination between like, different public works directors 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35797-2 03:08:52.452 --> 03:08:55.582 and departments, and you mentioned a couple of things 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35797-3 03:08:55.582 --> 03:08:58.596 about like yard waste and how do other towns do it? 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35804-0 03:08:58.606 --> 03:09:00.436 And I don't, I don't know. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35865-0 03:09:00.446 --> 03:09:03.732 And in the last meeting, we talked about MRA being a place 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35865-1 03:09:03.732 --> 03:09:07.129 where people can mean the main resource recovery association 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35865-2 03:09:07.129 --> 03:09:10.749 for folks you aren't in the know with all the acronyms, but they 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35865-3 03:09:10.749 --> 03:09:13.980 have their annual meeting and their annual conference and 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35865-4 03:09:13.980 --> 03:09:16.486 that's a good place for people to come mean. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35886-0 03:09:16.496 --> 03:09:20.113 And then there's the main municipal association, but also 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35886-1 03:09:20.113 --> 03:09:23.730 understanding that those are not always free for folks to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35886-2 03:09:23.730 --> 03:09:24.666 participate in. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35898-0 03:09:24.676 --> 03:09:28.846 And it's also typically not regionally located. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35911-0 03:09:28.856 --> 03:09:32.730 So people got to, you know, get to the event in order to 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35911-1 03:09:32.730 --> 03:09:33.546 participate. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35992-0 03:09:33.636 --> 03:09:38.004 So I'm wondering if there is a one desire and two, you know, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35992-1 03:09:38.004 --> 03:09:42.085 like what do we need to do to enhance that collaboration 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35992-2 03:09:42.085 --> 03:09:46.811 between different municipalities so that regionalization can take 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35992-3 03:09:46.811 --> 03:09:51.108 place and more efficient you know like towns going together 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35992-4 03:09:51.108 --> 03:09:54.903 to have a household hazardous waste day like I know, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35992-5 03:09:54.903 --> 03:09:59.128 Scarborough Saco, Biddeford Old Orchard Beach, they all go 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35992-6 03:09:59.128 --> 03:10:03.066 together and they hope they each host their own event. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/35999-0 03:10:03.116 --> 03:10:06.086 But everyone chips in, so there's multiple opportunities. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/36046-0 03:10:06.376 --> 03:10:10.252 So I'm just I I wanted to flag that as you know, maybe this 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/36046-1 03:10:10.252 --> 03:10:14.256 warrants a lot more continued conversation, but opportunities 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/36046-2 03:10:14.256 --> 03:10:18.455 for municipalities and and town managers, public works directors 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/36046-3 03:10:18.455 --> 03:10:21.426 to come together and talk about these issues. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/36105-0 03:10:21.766 --> 03:10:25.372 I'm I'm more ongoing basis rather than just five years 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/36105-1 03:10:25.372 --> 03:10:29.633 because there are lots of these things that come up and it would 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/36105-2 03:10:29.633 --> 03:10:33.698 be great to have a think tank of people who who you know, one 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/36105-3 03:10:33.698 --> 03:10:37.435 town has a solution to a problem that five towns are all 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/36105-4 03:10:37.435 --> 03:10:39.336 happening and and vice versa. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/36171-0 03:10:39.376 --> 03:10:43.626 So to be able to share that expertise and and I don't know 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/36171-1 03:10:43.626 --> 03:10:47.805 if that's like a DP helps facilitate or like who like who 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/36171-2 03:10:47.805 --> 03:10:52.487 does this or can they just have been organically uh, but I think 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/36171-3 03:10:52.487 --> 03:10:57.098 that a lot of really good ideas, some innovation you know, more 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/36171-4 03:10:57.098 --> 03:11:01.348 potentially more infrastructure could be borne out of more 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/36171-5 03:11:01.348 --> 03:11:04.086 collaboration between municipalities. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/36176-0 03:11:04.316 --> 03:11:04.956 So I just want. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/36201-0 03:11:04.966 --> 03:11:07.745 I just wanted to bring that up and if anyone else has something 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/36201-1 03:11:07.745 --> 03:11:09.526 to share with you, feel free to do that. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/36238-0 03:11:09.536 --> 03:11:12.976 But if you think that that would be helpful, I'm just noticing 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/36238-1 03:11:12.976 --> 03:11:16.034 that I think that would be a huge benefit to talents as 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/36238-2 03:11:16.034 --> 03:11:19.147 they're trying to deal with all these really complicated 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/36238-3 03:11:19.147 --> 03:11:19.966 material types. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/36244-0 03:11:23.336 --> 03:11:24.266 Nods in agreement. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/36260-0 03:11:24.616 --> 03:11:25.636 Yeah, there's a lot of. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/36287-0 03:11:25.646 --> 03:11:28.089 There's a lot of productive cross talk and collaboration 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/36287-1 03:11:28.089 --> 03:11:30.447 among transfer station operators that are trainings we 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/36287-2 03:11:30.447 --> 03:11:33.062 occasionally get public works officials that attend those as 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/36287-3 03:11:33.062 --> 03:11:33.276 well. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/36298-0 03:11:34.466 --> 03:11:36.996 But I think there's a lot of value in that. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/36303-0 03:11:37.006 --> 03:11:37.896 I think the idea is great. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/36320-0 03:11:37.906 --> 03:11:39.808 I'm not sure how to implement it, but I think it's an 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/36320-1 03:11:39.808 --> 03:11:40.336 excellent idea. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/36366-0 03:11:40.406 --> 03:11:42.407 You know, because when they start talking to each other, 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/36366-1 03:11:42.407 --> 03:11:44.583 they always comparing notes, checking pricing, seeing who has 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/36366-2 03:11:44.583 --> 03:11:46.619 a better vendors with the service levels has all kinds of 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/36366-3 03:11:46.619 --> 03:11:47.286 stuff that happens. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/36383-0 03:11:47.296 --> 03:11:50.379 That's that's not us, but as a productive part of this 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/36383-1 03:11:50.379 --> 03:11:50.996 discussion. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/36385-0 03:11:51.246 --> 03:11:51.756 Yeah. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/36428-0 03:11:51.766 --> 03:11:55.174 And they could probably help that collaboration could 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/36428-1 03:11:55.174 --> 03:11:58.708 probably help solve some of these problems that we keep 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/36428-2 03:11:58.708 --> 03:12:02.557 having because home rule is makes things complicated in some 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/36428-3 03:12:02.557 --> 03:12:06.154 ways because everybody's doing it alone where they don't 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/36428-4 03:12:06.154 --> 03:12:07.416 necessarily have to. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/36446-0 03:12:07.546 --> 03:12:13.006 So I just, yeah, I just wanted to flag that there was a Public 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/36446-1 03:12:13.006 --> 03:12:14.566 works association. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/36450-0 03:12:15.096 --> 03:12:16.676 They're not shared. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/36456-0 03:12:16.786 --> 03:12:17.726 Probably is OK. 8b6d7c51-84b3-48e8-8b35-2400dd371c56/36471-0 03:12:18.616 --> 03:12:22.146 Is it true there's a charge to even see part of this possible?