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f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2345-0
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I talk to them,
then we're taking the wires off and then

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2329-0
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Yeah.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2345-1
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it's going in our recycle as well, right?
'cause the hand in hand starts right.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2340-0
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Hello.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2353-0
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Yeah, because Evergreen, right?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2355-0
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Definitely right.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2360-0
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I've been successful, yes.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2368-0
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So it's a long time.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2402-0
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It's it's manufactured in Maine, in Maine,
'cause. We don't have that many customers.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2379-0
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OK.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2391-0
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The thing I think is there's also great
e-mail.

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Also.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2406-0
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That's why.

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If you.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2414-0
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Yeah.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2416-0
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Go to there.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2425-0
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You buy the wire, it's kinda like.

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News.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2435-0
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There. And senator what?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2433-0
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You're the customer everywhere.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2437-0
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Is the wire today.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2438-0
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I guess I, yeah.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2445-0
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Could have asked, but yeah, yeah.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2453-0
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Yeah,
I'm gonna get out of the pick up

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2453-1
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Huntington.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2467-0
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'Cause you'd be the.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2461-0
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Actually.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2465-0
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Yeah.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2474-0
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Really great.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2478-0
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Really.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2479-0
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You know. Yeah, it was really great.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2483-0
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Yeah. And then you would.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2485-0
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Take the wire.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2490-0
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And failed.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2497-0
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And sell it and whoever you thought it
was the customer, right?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2502-0
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Yeah, and they're.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2540-0
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And they would sell it, whatever that is,
package, whoever buy it. That's so.

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Yeah. Nice.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2526-0
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Yeah,
there's sometimes we that bad I found the.

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There's all the way along the supply
chain.

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There are customers,
which is why next week on Wednesday we

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2547-0
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Yeah, we got good skiing on the.

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have a fill in that's gonna have a public
hearing.

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Plates and then they they tell you.

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About the good skiing.

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At least.

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Wednesday, where we kind of.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2553-0
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Yeah, yeah, I think.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2561-0
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Change the definition of this customer to
be the.

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End consumer to have their eyeshadow.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2566-0
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Yeah. So yeah.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2572-0
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Well, don't know. Sorry about that.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2596-0
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So whatever whatever you knew.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2587-0
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Yeah.

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Whatever material you purchase in
whatever they are packaged in, you're.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2602-0
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Saying we need to see you guys out,
you know.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2616-0
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Yeah.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2618-0
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Even though nothing that you are bringing
to your facility is reasonable,

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Even though it's not very good.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2618-1
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if you can't usually.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2622-0
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Yeah.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2628-0
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Back tomorrow, I gotta.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2632-0
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I'm not sure what happened.

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On Friday, we'll need you again.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2638-0
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I think it's very powerful.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2643-0
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Too.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2644-0
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OK.
Because I don't think we'll be in touch.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2645-0
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Blank is gonna work, yeah.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2646-0
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But mm.

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Are you guys trying to be the teams or is
that? Honestly, I'm sure it's the teams,

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Program.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2673-0
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Sure.

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OK?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2683-0
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Yeah,
we can just tell Richard and Barbara,

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they have to let us know. That's right.

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OK.

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Yeah. OK.

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OK.

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To point out.

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Yeah.

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OK.

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I'll I'll make sure.

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If I see the public hearing, but yeah.

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Right now there are just.

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One of the few different things.

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We're trying to do and so the the bills.

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The department.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2743-0
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And then they they.

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But as everyone knows.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2755-0
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That's what we're trying to accomplish.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2751-0
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Extension.

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I I think.

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That fired in July.

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The addition.

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This thing.

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Of difficult passing.

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That we're working on, right?

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Now.

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What is Creole right sense?

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What is Creole, right?

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No, the exemption.

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So they would need to lobby.

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Is fun. Jobs are the core.

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For the quarterly.

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Take care of her.

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Yeah.

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That would apply to XLS.

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Well.

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Yeah.

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There was a build by that. Yeah,
and it's dry, yeah.

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Yeah. Which one?

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Which one?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/2864-0
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Do you have a reservation?

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Correct.

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Yeah, but I didn't EPS.

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Because I mean rigid polystyre.

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Do you know?

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Ne you know.

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I don't know.

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OK.

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Good morning.

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Yep. Or we're ready to start it.

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It's nine am.

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All right, so.

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That is good.

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OK.

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Everyone can hear us.

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Well,
check everyone 's comfortable the

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bathrooms.
If you need to use them at any point.

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Out the back door there and just down the
hall into either your left or right,

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you'll find restrooms.

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Or planned to go till eleven.
We just have a brief.

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Presentation and opening remarks from
Brian and then we'll get right into it.

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Yeah, I know.

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We all have a lot of people here today,
so we'll get right into it.

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So good morning everyone.

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I am Brian Beneski,
the supervisor for Mainz.

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DEP stewardship programs and either my
colleagues Kayla Michaud and Jessica

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Nadeau with the packaging program,
we thank you for being here.

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The purpose of today's meeting is to
provide an opportunity for stakeholders

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to discuss technical information which
will be used to further develop the draft

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initial packaging material type list.
This list will continue to be worked

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through the routine technicals rule
making process that the department plans

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to initi.

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This summer.

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It's important to note that the packaging
material type list will be annually

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reviewed,
along with information collected from the

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stewardship,
organization and stakeholders,

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and the department will initiate a
rulemaking to make adjustments as

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necessary.

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All discussion today will be regarding
the draft initial packaging,

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material types,
list technical information shared during

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Technical inform.

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Inform.

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today's meeting should be sent as a
written comment to our e-mail address,

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which is main packaging EPR.

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At Main dot Gov e-mail comments will be
accepted until April thirtieth.

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Other questions,
comments and concerns can be forwarded to

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the main packaging e-mail and will be
addressed as time allows,

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and I'm going to just reiterate that this
is the first.

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Step of the process.
We are in a stakeholder process.

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To develop the list that will then go to.

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The routine technical rulemaking process
through the Board of Environmental

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Protection.

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There will be another opportunity for
comments during that process.

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There will be another opportunity for
comments during that.

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So I just want to make sure that people
realize that we are in the.

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Information gathering stage we're not in.

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This is not we're not in decision making.

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In information gather, so yes.

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And another opportunity to to collect
comments. Sorry. Yeah, absolutely.

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Stranger.

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Sorry to interrupt so.

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No, no, no.

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Another opportunity to to submit your
comments. Here's another.

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In the presentation,
we will also have QR code that's gonna go

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to another location where you can or
another forum for comments.

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We also have questions there that are
more specific if you want to help us

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answer those.

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Great, Michelle.

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Yeah.
And the goal of the the one of the

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department 's goals for today's meeting
is to be clear on the information that we

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need from stakeholders so that we can
inform the further development of this

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list.

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So let's just keep that in mind.
If there are any questions about what

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technical information you can provide to
help us further inform the list.

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Let us please ask those yes, OK,
absolutely.

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So we're gonna have a quick presentation
and then we're gonna get into our

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questions for you and your questions for
us.

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Sound good?

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Awesome.

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Jiffy you want to add.

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Well,
I just wanted to count how many people do

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we have virtually in attendance. Eighty.
OK. And there's a it's a mixed group.

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We have representation from.

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Brokers from industry, from.

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Manufacturers, recyclers.
So we have a real good diversity in the

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meeting today,
just so everybody 's aware of that.

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Awesome.

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All right.
So we'll get into the presentation a bit

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and then we'll move into.

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The question and answer pit.

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All right. So the agenda for today,
like I said,

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we have a brief overview of the packaging
material, the draft packaging,

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material types list.
Then we're gonna get into questions.

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Are two main things for the day.

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I'll even say draft conceptual.

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Draft conceptual initial packaging
materials isolate.

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You want your feedback.

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Alright so.

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All right, so the draft list.
I'm gonna switch places with you,

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All right, so the draft list.
I'm gonna switch places with you,

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if that's.

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if that's alright.

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Yep, OK.
The draft list aims to capture all the

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packaging material that in existence,
which is a lot of things,

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and it includes designations for readily
recyclable.

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And then with reusable and compostable
being secondary designation.

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So the primary designation is whether or
not it's readily recyclable.

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Then we get into the secondary
designations of compostability or

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reusability.

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So the information in this list is
intended to be used by producers of

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packaging.

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Which for them to annually report to the
stewardship organization on the type and

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amount of packaging material sent in or
into the state.

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It's intended to be used by participating
municipalities.

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To understand what they need to provide
for the collection of.

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And that would be all material.
The collection and recycling of and that

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would be all material designated readily
recyclable again in development.

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And then for the stewardship organization,
which we plan to contract in the spring

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of next year,
around this time next year to conduct

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audits of material streams based on the
packaging material.

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So we can allocate how much it costs to
manage all of the materials.

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Yeah.

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All right,
so the listed section by base material in

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the base materials are like the primary
material.

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The packaging is made out of or the
primary material targeted for recycling

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these base materials are established in
Rule. They're glass, metal, paper,

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cork and wood and then plastic by res.

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Type.

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So those are set, you know,
guide wines of where we.

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Are organizing the the packaging material
types.

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So.

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For the readily recyclable designation.

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You have in front of you.
If you grabbed or if you have it on your

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computer or whatever.

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The packaging material types list the
draft initial packaging material types

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list.

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And for each of those packaging material
types, you have a column on the right.

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That is,
for the readily recyclable designation.

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Does anybody else need one of these?

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Yep, see you.

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All right. Thank you.

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Just to note, you are on canvas so.

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If that makes.

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You uncomfortable? We can help.

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Thank you.

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All right.

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So that far right column not all the way
over.

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But you know over a bit is gonna have the
readily recyclable designation.

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To to get to that.
Basically the criteria to meet the

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readily recyclable designation are the
marketability, throughput and ratio.

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And in the actual spreadsheet there for
each of those criteria there's another

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column, and if it has a green cell,
it meets that criteria.

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Yeah,
but as soon as you hit a red cell going

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across.

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The red cell need that.

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Doesn't meet the criteria as soon as you
hit the red cell.

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We didn't evaluate the subsequent
criteria.

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We proposed it as meeting the criteria.

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Exactly, yes, proposed.

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So to meet those, actually,
we'll get into that in a few slides.

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Move to the next group.

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Alright,
so to inform these proposals of meeting

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the criteria,
we looked at the recycling establishment

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reports for twenty,
twenty three and twenty twenty four that

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The.

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were submitted to the department.

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Also known as the broker report.

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It basically is a report.

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00:13:34.876 --> 00:13:38.967
That people who handle recycles
recyclables and get them to end markets

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00:13:38.967 --> 00:13:43.116
report to the department to tell us what
they're sending to end markets.

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00:13:44.156 --> 00:13:46.156
It is a confidential report.

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00:13:44.156 --> 00:13:45.516
It is a confidential.

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00:13:46.156 --> 00:13:51.302
It has proprietary information in it,
so we can't share the report with you,

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00:13:51.302 --> 00:13:56.715
but this is a section of the report that
shows the waste types that are reported

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00:13:56.715 --> 00:13:56.916
on.

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In that report, we also posted.

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00:14:02.676 --> 00:14:05.476
For public availability on our program
page.

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00:14:07.116 --> 00:14:10.516
A list of the brokers and their contact
information and.

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00:14:12.356 --> 00:14:13.956
A blank one of these forms.

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00:14:14.306 --> 00:14:20.741
So that you guys can take a look at that,
but basically that information tells us

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00:14:20.741 --> 00:14:22.546
what is actually being.

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00:14:24.306 --> 00:14:27.426
Bought and sold as far as recyclable? Yes,
Brian.

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00:14:24.306 --> 00:14:27.426
Bought and sold as far as recyclable,
Brian.

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00:14:26.736 --> 00:14:30.890
Yes,
handouts are available to those online

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00:14:30.890 --> 00:14:32.496
via the web page.

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00:14:32.536 --> 00:14:35.445
Yes.
So those are on the web page under

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00:14:35.445 --> 00:14:39.736
background information and that's gonna
be the the broker.

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00:14:40.256 --> 00:14:43.336
Yeah,
I was gonna say broker list and form.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/4286-0
00:14:42.946 --> 00:14:45.226
The ones we're handing out here right now
are available.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/4295-0
00:14:47.076 --> 00:14:47.996
Yeah, we only.

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00:14:48.876 --> 00:14:49.676
Have one available.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/4306-0
00:14:48.876 --> 00:14:49.196
Have one.

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00:14:49.676 --> 00:14:51.732
No,
it's available on the program 's website,

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00:14:51.166 --> 00:14:51.366
Yeah.

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00:14:51.526 --> 00:14:54.726
Available on the programs website. OK,
great.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/4308-1
00:14:51.732 --> 00:14:51.956
it's.

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00:14:59.336 --> 00:15:05.848
So we use these to inform the those two
designations of marketability and

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00:15:05.848 --> 00:15:10.336
throughput.
And I'll get to the questions that we.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/4350-0
00:15:11.106 --> 00:15:12.946
Asked to to answer those questions next.

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00:15:14.986 --> 00:15:17.306
So back to the criteria.

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00:15:14.986 --> 00:15:16.546
So back to the.

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00:15:17.306 --> 00:15:21.760
We have marketability,
throughput and ratio and the way that we

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/4375-1
00:15:21.760 --> 00:15:26.146
used the broker reports or the recycling
establishment report.

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00:15:26.776 --> 00:15:35.092
To answer whether or not each packaging
material type met the readily recyclable

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/4395-1
00:15:35.092 --> 00:15:36.016
criteria.

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00:15:37.546 --> 00:15:41.732
The first question, for marketability was,
are there two markets in North America

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00:15:41.732 --> 00:15:42.906
targeting the material?

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00:15:44.586 --> 00:15:49.521
The second question is for throughput and
is it common enough to warrant sortation

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/4432-1
00:15:49.521 --> 00:15:51.186
to become a target material?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/4446-0
00:15:51.266 --> 00:15:55.729
So are we seeing that people are
reporting on this being collected and

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00:15:55.729 --> 00:15:56.986
sent to end markets?

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00:15:57.696 --> 00:16:01.816
And then is at least sixty percent of the
material targeted for recycling.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/4467-0
00:16:02.656 --> 00:16:05.496
So glass bottle is a hundred percent
glass.

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00:16:10.026 --> 00:16:10.346
All right.

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00:16:10.346 --> 00:16:13.921
So that's the primary designation is
readily recyclable.

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00:16:13.921 --> 00:16:15.866
We have secondary designations.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/4493-0
00:16:16.736 --> 00:16:18.616
And those are compostable and reusable.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/4498-0
00:16:20.146 --> 00:16:20.466
So four.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/4528-0
00:16:20.466 --> 00:16:26.907
Compostable any material that is designed
for direct food contact and certified by

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00:16:26.907 --> 00:16:33.116
a third party as meeting these standards
will be designated compostable when it

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00:16:33.116 --> 00:16:36.066
goes. When the list goes to the board.

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00:16:37.506 --> 00:16:39.866
Reusable is a little bit more.

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00:16:39.946 --> 00:16:43.274
Has another step in it in order to be
designated reusable,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/4556-1
00:16:43.274 --> 00:16:46.546
there has to be an alternative collection
program set up.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/4563-0
00:16:46.826 --> 00:16:50.466
We don't have any alternative collection
program set up yet because.

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00:16:51.836 --> 00:16:55.580
It's a new program we're still working on
the applications and all that stuff to be

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00:16:55.580 --> 00:16:56.516
able to set those up.

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00:16:56.556 --> 00:16:59.490
So nothing is designated reusable at this
point, because again,

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00:16:59.490 --> 00:17:02.196
we don't have any of those yet.
But we do anticipate that.

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00:17:04.816 --> 00:17:08.331
All right.
So before we get into our questions,

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00:17:08.331 --> 00:17:11.847
we have,
which we have a couple that we want to

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00:17:11.847 --> 00:17:15.216
address before we get into general
questions.

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00:17:15.496 --> 00:17:17.656
We do have this QR code here.

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00:17:19.746 --> 00:17:23.227
And like I said in the beginning of the
meeting,

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00:17:23.227 --> 00:17:27.064
it has some more specific questions for
stakeholders.

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00:17:27.064 --> 00:17:29.906
You know whether that be municipalities.

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00:17:31.386 --> 00:17:33.306
Producers, brokers or.

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00:17:34.796 --> 00:17:35.796
Consumers, consumers.

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00:17:37.666 --> 00:17:39.866
We also at the end of this.

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00:17:41.666 --> 00:17:47.346
Form have a place where you can submit
written comments as well.

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00:17:49.726 --> 00:17:52.766
And I think that's all on the QR code.

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00:17:52.806 --> 00:17:55.486
So the we have two questions we want to.

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00:17:58.106 --> 00:18:00.506
Kind of focus a little bit more on today.

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00:18:02.026 --> 00:18:04.346
Because this is the draft list and we do
want your feedback.

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00:18:04.386 --> 00:18:09.950
So we want to know if first if you have
seen in your review of the draft list,

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00:18:09.950 --> 00:18:14.106
if there are any specific materials that
are not captured.

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00:18:15.786 --> 00:18:16.666
By the types proposed.

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00:18:17.656 --> 00:18:19.176
And then we can get into the other one.

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00:18:20.536 --> 00:18:23.256
Anybody has any feedback on that?

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00:18:23.416 --> 00:18:24.256
Would be great.

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00:18:24.256 --> 00:18:27.136
If you have any concerns.

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00:18:27.136 --> 00:18:28.296
Could you say who you are?

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00:18:28.626 --> 00:18:30.066
Yeah, I'm glad I'm with them.

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00:18:30.106 --> 00:18:31.626
Help with them.

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00:18:31.626 --> 00:18:32.306
Help Sarah hood.

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00:18:32.426 --> 00:18:38.101
Yes. So our concern is the wire.
If we were selling wired pulp within the

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00:18:38.101 --> 00:18:41.552
state,
the bailing wires that are on the the

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/4831-2
00:18:41.552 --> 00:18:42.626
bales of pulp.

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00:18:42.706 --> 00:18:43.026
Yep.

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00:18:43.146 --> 00:18:47.066
So we recycle all of that, you know.

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00:18:47.796 --> 00:18:52.107
And we use aim recycling and they come in
and we we do that.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/4856-1
00:18:52.107 --> 00:18:55.076
And so the wire isn't listed on this list.

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00:18:55.576 --> 00:18:58.030
Right.
So the that's where we get with the

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00:18:58.030 --> 00:19:01.456
packaging material types are meant to be
a little bit more.

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00:19:01.456 --> 00:19:02.376
Broad, OK.

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00:19:02.376 --> 00:19:05.816
So baling wire would fall into one of
them, OK.

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00:19:02.376 --> 00:19:05.576
So baling wire would fall into one of
them.

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00:19:05.816 --> 00:19:09.688
But it would not be its own.
If we get into like having every specific

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00:19:07.826 --> 00:19:08.266
OK.

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00:19:08.826 --> 00:19:10.466
So that's fine as long as it.

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00:19:09.688 --> 00:19:10.016
thing.

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00:19:10.466 --> 00:19:11.226
Is.

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00:19:10.706 --> 00:19:11.906
The list would be like seven hundred.

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00:19:11.546 --> 00:19:16.141
So the idea is just for clarification
that if we make something in the state of

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00:19:13.096 --> 00:19:14.136
Can you hear me?

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00:19:16.141 --> 00:19:19.071
Maine and we sell it on within the state
of Maine,

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00:19:19.071 --> 00:19:22.346
many of our customers don't take wire
bill for instance.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/4943-0
00:19:23.116 --> 00:19:28.076
So we would have to just track what goes
to a customer that takes wire call.

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00:19:31.286 --> 00:19:34.566
You would have to know what.

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00:19:36.996 --> 00:19:40.176
What? Yeah,
you would be tracking how much bailing

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/4964-0
00:19:38.096 --> 00:19:39.336
You would be tracking.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/4974-1
00:19:40.176 --> 00:19:41.236
wire you produce.

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00:19:41.396 --> 00:19:45.898
How much packaging material and because
you guys are a brand owner,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/4993-1
00:19:45.898 --> 00:19:49.076
that would be something that you would
need to?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5012-0
00:19:49.676 --> 00:19:51.796
Yeah. Tell us how much your.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/4998-0
00:19:49.786 --> 00:19:50.266
Yeah. Tell her.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5010-0
00:19:50.106 --> 00:19:50.266
Her.

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00:19:51.836 --> 00:19:54.815
So,
but but only once it's sold in the state

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00:19:54.815 --> 00:19:55.676
of Maine, OK.

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00:19:55.836 --> 00:19:57.944
Yeah.
If it's going to a A market that's

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00:19:57.944 --> 00:20:00.876
outside of the state, yeah,
that's not our jurisdiction.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5023-0
00:20:00.096 --> 00:20:00.696
The jurisdiction.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5025-0
00:20:00.096 --> 00:20:00.216
The.

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00:20:01.386 --> 00:20:04.466
But if we know that that customer is
recycling it as well.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5050-0
00:20:05.896 --> 00:20:09.256
So that's where we get into alternative
collection, yeah.

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00:20:09.336 --> 00:20:12.128
Yeah,
for the for the case of bailing wire,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5072-1
00:20:12.128 --> 00:20:17.079
we have to remember that when a packaging
material type is designated readily

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5072-2
00:20:17.079 --> 00:20:19.936
recyclable,
it has to meet the criteria and.

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00:20:21.226 --> 00:20:25.788
Just because something doesn't have a
readily recyclable designation doesn't

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5104-1
00:20:25.788 --> 00:20:29.936
mean it cannot be recycled,
and the way it works in this program is a

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00:20:29.936 --> 00:20:33.906
municipality will be reimbursed for any
material that it recycles.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5132-0
00:20:34.476 --> 00:20:39.007
Whether or not that material is
designated readily recyclable, however,

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00:20:39.007 --> 00:20:44.168
on the other side of that right material,
let's not designated readily recyclable

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00:20:44.168 --> 00:20:48.196
is not it has a different fee structure
than the material that.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5144-0
00:20:49.226 --> 00:20:53.306
Is designated readily recyclable,
but in the instance of Bale wire.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5162-0
00:20:55.386 --> 00:21:02.106
That's not a material that is accepted at
material recovery facilities.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5164-0
00:21:02.586 --> 00:21:03.666
It's not a material.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5177-0
00:21:04.136 --> 00:21:09.136
Is collect it may be collected by
municipalities in the scrap streams.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5206-0
00:21:10.666 --> 00:21:14.754
And and so there is still accounting for
it getting recycled,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5206-1
00:21:14.754 --> 00:21:19.173
which means that it will,
it will translate into the reimbursement

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5206-2
00:21:19.173 --> 00:21:20.426
for municipalities.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5220-0
00:21:21.146 --> 00:21:24.446
But right,
we don't have if bail right now,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5220-1
00:21:24.446 --> 00:21:26.546
the way the list is drafted.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5242-0
00:21:27.506 --> 00:21:33.402
We don't have bail wire listed as a form
for there's there's two types listed as

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5242-1
00:21:33.402 --> 00:21:34.786
readily recyclable.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5251-0
00:21:35.136 --> 00:21:36.936
In the metal base material, right?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5257-0
00:21:36.936 --> 00:21:38.776
It's aluminum.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5273-0
00:21:39.256 --> 00:21:44.919
You have aluminum forms and you have tin
steel forms and that includes the cans,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5273-1
00:21:44.919 --> 00:21:47.856
the containers, the closures and the lids.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5286-0
00:21:49.306 --> 00:21:53.786
So yeah, we're gonna,
we're making note of the fact that.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5298-0
00:21:56.026 --> 00:21:56.186
Yeah.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5300-0
00:21:56.186 --> 00:21:59.106
Should Bale wire be included in those
forms?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5307-0
00:22:00.036 --> 00:22:03.356
So you saying bail wire falls under scrap
material, right?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5332-0
00:22:03.026 --> 00:22:09.902
It was so that would be in a waste type,
which is different than a packaging

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5314-0
00:22:03.476 --> 00:22:05.676
That's what we have a metal scrap.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5332-1
00:22:09.902 --> 00:22:14.546
material type. But yes,
scrap would be a waste, OK.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5338-0
00:22:14.546 --> 00:22:16.426
So you just confuse me more. I'm so sorry.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5359-0
00:22:17.786 --> 00:22:20.147
Yeah,
waste types is on the that's more

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5359-1
00:22:20.147 --> 00:22:23.335
internal vocabulary for the external
vocabulary term.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5359-2
00:22:23.335 --> 00:22:26.346
We'll just stick to packaging material
types, but.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5373-0
00:22:28.506 --> 00:22:31.401
Yeah,
I think the way bailing wire would be

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5373-1
00:22:31.401 --> 00:22:32.586
managed right now.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5377-0
00:22:32.896 --> 00:22:34.376
By municipalities.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5402-0
00:22:35.866 --> 00:22:42.298
And perhaps other, you know, customers,
they're going to be putting that bailing

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5402-1
00:22:42.298 --> 00:22:46.666
wire into a scrap metal stream to see it
recycled and.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5398-0
00:22:43.856 --> 00:22:44.736
Right, exactly.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5432-0
00:22:48.466 --> 00:22:53.291
That we have to just keep in mind that if
if Bale wire is put on the list to be

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5432-1
00:22:53.291 --> 00:22:56.789
readily recyclable,
then municipalities are participating

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5432-2
00:22:56.789 --> 00:23:00.106
need to be providing for the recycling of
scrap metal.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5435-0
00:23:00.486 --> 00:23:00.646
OK.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5447-0
00:23:06.416 --> 00:23:11.176
Any other specific materials that anybody
wants to to bring up?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5458-0
00:23:13.696 --> 00:23:16.736
Not super off topic, but yeah,
hands are raised.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5484-0
00:23:13.696 --> 00:23:16.496
Not super off topic, but yeah hands are.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5485-0
00:23:16.736 --> 00:23:21.658
I just want to add one more comment about
this alternative collection program.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5485-1
00:23:21.658 --> 00:23:26.456
The program within the program just so
people are aware online and in house.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5489-0
00:23:27.376 --> 00:23:30.416
This is a these these programs are
initiated.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5501-0
00:23:31.116 --> 00:23:34.876
Established, operated,
financially supported by producers and.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5508-0
00:23:36.676 --> 00:23:37.276
What happens here?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5513-0
00:23:36.676 --> 00:23:37.116
What happens?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5514-0
00:23:37.276 --> 00:23:41.076
The incentive for producers collecting
packaging material is to.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5528-0
00:23:43.976 --> 00:23:47.496
Have their fees adjusted their fees
personally or they could.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5552-0
00:23:43.976 --> 00:23:47.256
Have their fees adjusted their fees
personally or they.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5554-0
00:23:47.496 --> 00:23:52.034
They could sell the tons that they
collect through these programs to other

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5554-1
00:23:52.034 --> 00:23:56.936
producers and the fees for that packaging
material type would be adjusted in the

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5554-2
00:23:56.936 --> 00:23:59.296
producers fee schedule for the program.

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00:23:59.946 --> 00:24:03.066
So for instance,
you have customers holding that Bale wire.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5588-0
00:24:04.586 --> 00:24:08.565
And and then it's consolidated that those
are serving as collection sites for one

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5588-1
00:24:08.565 --> 00:24:11.866
of these alternative collection programs
and and woodland pulp can.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5594-0
00:24:12.496 --> 00:24:13.496
Use that.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5633-0
00:24:13.496 --> 00:24:19.084
Those tons collected in that program to
offset the tons reported to the so and

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5633-1
00:24:19.084 --> 00:24:24.390
therefore not pay for those tons or if
you collected in excess of what you

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5633-2
00:24:24.390 --> 00:24:28.776
produce now those tons could be available
to offer to others.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5639-0
00:24:29.506 --> 00:24:31.026
To offset their fees.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5651-0
00:24:32.726 --> 00:24:35.179
Right.
And then we have a couple of questions

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5651-1
00:24:35.179 --> 00:24:35.766
online, so.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5658-0
00:24:37.636 --> 00:24:38.996
But we had some in House.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5663-0
00:24:38.246 --> 00:24:40.446
Oh, we had some in house. OK,
was there another?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5667-0
00:24:40.506 --> 00:24:41.986
Yep, we're good, Susan.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5673-0
00:24:41.986 --> 00:24:45.026
Hi, Susan Bush circular alliance.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5677-0
00:24:45.346 --> 00:24:46.266
I had some.

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00:24:46.346 --> 00:24:49.106
A few missing categories popped out to me.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5694-0
00:24:46.346 --> 00:24:48.866
A few missing categories popped out to.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5695-0
00:24:49.106 --> 00:24:51.586
I'm looking at categories across all of
the states.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5704-0
00:24:52.996 --> 00:24:54.876
Can I take a second to explain something
about?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5713-0
00:24:56.476 --> 00:24:57.396
Oh, one second massage.

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00:24:56.716 --> 00:24:57.196
Second.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5715-0
00:24:58.676 --> 00:24:58.996
Are you?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5719-0
00:24:58.996 --> 00:25:00.316
Is your mic muted? OK, good.

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00:25:03.116 --> 00:25:03.356
Thanks.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5738-0
00:25:03.356 --> 00:25:09.195
So at CAA we we are the nonprofit that is
implementing EPR in the states that I

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5738-1
00:25:09.195 --> 00:25:10.436
already have EPR.

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00:25:11.216 --> 00:25:13.916
In the works,
and So what we have to do for producers

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5761-1
00:25:13.916 --> 00:25:17.316
because they're selling into every state,
their national producers,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5761-2
00:25:17.316 --> 00:25:18.216
for the most part.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5780-0
00:25:19.556 --> 00:25:24.476
Is make sure that they know what they
need to report very clearly by category.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5789-0
00:25:24.636 --> 00:25:29.796
It's really important those categories be
clear and accurately described.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5793-0
00:25:29.836 --> 00:25:30.916
And consistent.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5797-0
00:25:31.156 --> 00:25:33.876
Now they don't have to necessarily be
identical.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5801-0
00:25:34.556 --> 00:25:34.836
But what?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5829-0
00:25:34.836 --> 00:25:38.684
We can't have is a material in.
We have something called the nationalist,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5829-1
00:25:38.684 --> 00:25:41.076
which would be the most refined category.
OK.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5835-0
00:25:41.356 --> 00:25:44.756
So let's say one state doesn't care about
black color.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5846-0
00:25:41.356 --> 00:25:43.996
So let's say one state doesn't care about
black.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5848-0
00:25:44.756 --> 00:25:48.236
But main does so by color.
Would be a more refined category.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5856-0
00:25:48.826 --> 00:25:50.026
We started with California.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5878-0
00:25:48.826 --> 00:25:49.426
We started with.

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00:25:50.026 --> 00:25:54.865
That was about sixty categories adding in
Oregon and what they want in Colorado and

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5880-1
00:25:54.865 --> 00:25:56.306
specifics that they want.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5900-0
00:25:57.306 --> 00:26:01.961
The list is up to a hundred and fifty
eight ish categories with what name is

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5970-0
00:25:57.306 --> 00:26:01.908
The list is up to a hundred and fifty
eight ish categories with what name is

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5970-1
00:26:01.908 --> 00:26:02.386
looking.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5900-1
00:26:01.961 --> 00:26:02.626
looking at.

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00:26:02.626 --> 00:26:07.693
We're going over two hundred categories,
so there in some cases I think may might

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00:26:07.693 --> 00:26:12.637
be able to use categories that aren't on
their list, and in some cases I think.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5971-2
00:26:12.637 --> 00:26:14.306
Why is that category there?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5980-0
00:26:15.026 --> 00:26:18.115
So I have a lot of feedback to give and
I'm on board you all with the details

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00:26:18.115 --> 00:26:19.897
today,
but it might be good to throw some of

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5980-2
00:26:19.897 --> 00:26:23.026
them out there to get everybody thinking
and make sure we're on the same page.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/5984-0
00:26:24.786 --> 00:26:26.626
But a few that I saw as missing.

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00:26:27.926 --> 00:26:31.886
In some states,
molded pulp is its own category.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6004-0
00:26:27.926 --> 00:26:31.166
In some states, molded pulp is its own.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6006-0
00:26:31.886 --> 00:26:37.646
I noticed there was no category for craft
paper which is in some states.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6009-0
00:26:38.646 --> 00:26:43.686
In plastics you had a category called
bulky rigid plastics.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6012-0
00:26:43.886 --> 00:26:44.806
That evokes.

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00:26:45.546 --> 00:26:49.216
Something that's not containers and I
would get rid of that term altogether

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6024-1
00:26:49.216 --> 00:26:53.225
that evokes those toddler toys that never
ever die and other material types that I

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6024-2
00:26:53.225 --> 00:26:56.026
don't think you're intending to include
in that category.

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00:26:57.016 --> 00:27:00.717
In other states,
that category for HGP and PPP and so on

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00:27:00.717 --> 00:27:05.651
would be mills, buckets and lids.
And I can give you the detail by resident

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00:27:05.651 --> 00:27:05.976
type.

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00:27:06.096 --> 00:27:08.642
Yeah,
some states are making a specific

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00:27:08.642 --> 00:27:12.016
category for materials that are specific
to nursery.

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00:27:12.786 --> 00:27:17.986
Meaning not children, but plants,
nursery pots and trays, and so on.

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00:27:18.226 --> 00:27:25.826
And so I'm sorry. The. Oh, OK. Yeah.
So not nursery from, like a baby.

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00:27:24.546 --> 00:27:24.706
Good.

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00:27:26.216 --> 00:27:29.216
But like nurturing my babies nursery.

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00:27:27.366 --> 00:27:31.206
The planner increase their dyed with
carbon black.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6105-0
00:27:31.446 --> 00:27:32.806
Yeah. OK, have different.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6139-0
00:27:31.446 --> 00:27:31.806
Yeah. OK.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6141-0
00:27:32.136 --> 00:27:36.430
Have different notion of the states.
Talk about Cardin Black and and I'm quite

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00:27:36.430 --> 00:27:40.995
frankly I thought it was odd carbon black
was listed as called out like that of non

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00:27:40.995 --> 00:27:43.767
recyclable.
Essentially it drops down to that last

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6141-3
00:27:43.767 --> 00:27:46.866
category when the whole point of this
list is to consid.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6144-0
00:27:46.976 --> 00:27:47.936
What is recyclable?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6149-0
00:27:48.706 --> 00:27:50.226
So in every other state.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6169-0
00:27:51.376 --> 00:27:55.976
It's part of the pigmented resin type in
that category, right?

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00:27:51.376 --> 00:27:55.696
It's part of the pigmented resin type in
that category.

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00:27:55.496 --> 00:27:56.016
Right.

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00:27:55.976 --> 00:28:00.781
And so and whether or not it gets
separated and marketed depends a lot upon

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00:28:00.781 --> 00:28:05.776
the technology and use in the methods for
sorting at the recycling facilities.

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00:28:06.456 --> 00:28:07.976
People here can talk more about that.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6213-0
00:28:08.756 --> 00:28:12.916
Than I can and so to call it out as non
recyclable.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6228-0
00:28:08.756 --> 00:28:12.316
Than I can and so to call it out as non.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6230-0
00:28:12.916 --> 00:28:18.891
I'm not sure it's accurate and and
through this program there may be the

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00:28:18.891 --> 00:28:21.756
possibility of adopting technology.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6243-0
00:28:22.266 --> 00:28:24.580
Sure. And excuse me, Susan,
to to interrupt,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6243-1
00:28:24.580 --> 00:28:26.586
but I do kind of want to bring it back.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6257-0
00:28:28.836 --> 00:28:32.196
That those comments are very valuable.
We would love to hear more about them.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6267-0
00:28:32.436 --> 00:28:38.356
Do have again in this forum here
questions specifically.

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00:28:40.116 --> 00:28:45.012
To processors and brokers about whether
or not that's something that would

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6281-1
00:28:45.012 --> 00:28:45.796
contaminate.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6287-0
00:28:48.116 --> 00:28:48.156
A.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6297-0
00:28:48.156 --> 00:28:50.698
A bail.
We want to know that information because

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6297-1
00:28:50.698 --> 00:28:51.996
we do have to understand.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6327-0
00:28:52.306 --> 00:28:57.909
Understand not just what a processing
facility can handle at their facility,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6327-1
00:28:57.909 --> 00:29:03.221
but Maine is a home Rule state,
so every municipality is responsible for

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00:29:03.221 --> 00:29:05.186
their own waste management.

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00:29:05.226 --> 00:29:09.891
So we need to also consider what your
local transfer station can handle,

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00:29:09.891 --> 00:29:10.786
not just what.

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00:29:11.516 --> 00:29:12.276
A processing facility.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6345-0
00:29:12.326 --> 00:29:13.446
Just for the sake.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6352-0
00:29:12.356 --> 00:29:13.076
Dave sneak.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6353-0
00:29:13.076 --> 00:29:14.036
In back here somewhere.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6366-0
00:29:14.036 --> 00:29:14.396
Your votes?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6367-0
00:29:15.276 --> 00:29:17.505
As far as I know,
it's not a contaminant and it's

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00:29:17.505 --> 00:29:17.996
marketable.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6372-0
00:29:18.836 --> 00:29:21.356
My point of view is from the category
standpoint.

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00:29:21.746 --> 00:29:26.313
And I'll let that process and talk to
that other material types that well,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6378-0
00:29:22.196 --> 00:29:23.756
Absolutely. And that's a great.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6400-1
00:29:26.313 --> 00:29:29.541
like I said,
I think it's important the descriptions

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00:29:29.541 --> 00:29:31.186
be consistent and accurate.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6414-0
00:29:31.396 --> 00:29:33.846
OK.
And if you have specific comments on that,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6414-1
00:29:33.846 --> 00:29:37.236
we would love to get those through e-mail
or through this forum.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6416-0
00:29:37.276 --> 00:29:37.596
Right.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6425-0
00:29:37.596 --> 00:29:38.036
But can.

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00:29:38.156 --> 00:29:40.956
I other categories that might be missing
and I'll get back to.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6433-0
00:29:42.386 --> 00:29:45.186
I think it's Colorado has a couple of
categories for.

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00:29:47.506 --> 00:29:52.781
HDPE and pp. Mono material.
Squeeze tubes that are recycled

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6452-1
00:29:52.781 --> 00:29:56.386
compatible. Yeah. And then you mentioned.

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00:29:58.266 --> 00:29:59.946
Astm certified compostability.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6473-0
00:30:00.576 --> 00:30:03.589
Yeah, packaging.
I'm not sure why that wouldn't be on the

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00:30:03.589 --> 00:30:04.576
list to begin with.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6481-0
00:30:04.616 --> 00:30:06.256
Was confused by that comment, you know.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6491-0
00:30:06.276 --> 00:30:11.556
And we can only go off of, like I said,
we were going off of the broker reports.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6510-0
00:30:11.596 --> 00:30:16.656
We only have the information that we have,
OK and COMPOSTABILITY is not something

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6510-1
00:30:16.656 --> 00:30:18.076
that we're we track as.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6524-0
00:30:19.516 --> 00:30:21.756
In the materials management side of
things, except for.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6531-0
00:30:22.186 --> 00:30:24.506
You said that would be added when it goes
in front of the board.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6544-0
00:30:24.866 --> 00:30:27.266
Yes,
when we get information from stakeholders,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6544-1
00:30:27.266 --> 00:30:28.866
that's what this process is for.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6546-0
00:30:28.906 --> 00:30:29.146
OK.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6562-0
00:30:29.146 --> 00:30:33.952
So you might consider having the
compostable packaging for both rigid and

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6562-1
00:30:33.952 --> 00:30:35.186
flexible packaging.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6564-0
00:30:35.186 --> 00:30:35.706
So.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6587-0
00:30:35.686 --> 00:30:39.116
We we do have some iteration of that in
the works and yes,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6587-1
00:30:39.116 --> 00:30:43.708
we are hoping to hear from stakeholders
about how how that might best fit into

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6587-2
00:30:43.708 --> 00:30:44.406
the current.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6595-0
00:30:45.306 --> 00:30:46.786
Structure of the list.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6601-0
00:30:46.786 --> 00:30:49.786
Yes.
And I didn't see PVC listed and stuff.

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00:30:49.796 --> 00:30:51.196
PDC is listed, yeah.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6625-0
00:30:52.706 --> 00:30:58.246
It's just only one type,
because all four all forms are PVC is not

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6616-0
00:30:55.116 --> 00:30:55.876
All forms.

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00:30:58.246 --> 00:31:00.066
being collected right?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6640-0
00:31:02.106 --> 00:31:03.986
For end markets at this time an.

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00:31:04.186 --> 00:31:06.470
Ldpe,
in my opinion had more categories than

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00:31:06.470 --> 00:31:06.826
needed.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6646-0
00:31:06.826 --> 00:31:08.026
For packaging.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6654-0
00:31:06.826 --> 00:31:06.946
For.

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00:31:08.026 --> 00:31:11.626
Packaging it's not that commonly used.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6659-0
00:31:13.186 --> 00:31:16.626
The other states do not separate it out
by pigmented or non pigmented. It's OK.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6671-0
00:31:17.496 --> 00:31:20.256
That's great feedback we do have.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6699-0
00:31:20.416 --> 00:31:26.423
We did have to again with the list we
wanted to go with our first draft.

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00:31:26.423 --> 00:31:32.843
We wanted to focus more on what's going
to focus more on what's already being

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00:31:32.843 --> 00:31:34.736
collected in the state.

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00:31:35.426 --> 00:31:36.946
And especially focusing on those.

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00:31:38.576 --> 00:31:40.456
Those municipalities that.

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00:31:41.966 --> 00:31:47.446
Are OK that are collecting for themselves
individually.

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00:31:48.326 --> 00:31:48.646
OK.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6739-0
00:31:48.646 --> 00:31:51.486
I just would like to respond to Susan 's
comments absolutely. Thank you.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6734-0
00:31:50.626 --> 00:31:51.146
Absolutely.

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00:31:52.456 --> 00:31:57.563
So the craft paper I just wanna mention
that it does. It is captured.

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00:31:57.563 --> 00:32:01.576
It would be captured by the paper uncoded
paper forms.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6795-0
00:32:03.626 --> 00:32:06.413
And so when you talk about this national
list,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6795-1
00:32:06.413 --> 00:32:10.919
which I'm really excited about because we
haven't had an entity yet kind of

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6795-2
00:32:10.919 --> 00:32:15.426
consolidate all the list and do like
across examination of all those lists.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6799-0
00:32:15.746 --> 00:32:17.346
If that's public.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6808-0
00:32:19.586 --> 00:32:21.706
We look forward to having that resource.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6829-0
00:32:22.546 --> 00:32:29.397
When you suggest that Maine puts on its
packaging material types list like an

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00:32:29.397 --> 00:32:31.066
HDPE flexible tube.

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00:32:32.906 --> 00:32:39.372
And the other one that you had suggested
was also very specific. The nursery pots,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6855-1
00:32:39.372 --> 00:32:43.346
when these pack if we if the list is to
have such.

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00:32:45.106 --> 00:32:48.506
Such granulated packaging, material types.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6871-0
00:32:48.746 --> 00:32:52.346
Those types then need to be they have to
be.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6881-0
00:32:52.696 --> 00:32:55.016
To meet the criteria for readily
recyclable.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6886-0
00:32:55.086 --> 00:32:56.366
Well, if it's a little bit.

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00:32:56.586 --> 00:32:59.656
Be evaluated.
I meant to meet the criteria for readily

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6920-1
00:32:59.656 --> 00:33:02.559
recyclable,
and that also means that a municipality

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00:33:02.559 --> 00:33:05.350
would then,
if you know it is readily recyclable,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6920-3
00:33:05.350 --> 00:33:09.146
would have to provide for the collection
and the recycling of that.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6927-0
00:33:09.146 --> 00:33:11.026
My point is that you might consider doing
that.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6932-0
00:33:11.226 --> 00:33:13.746
States have considered doing that because,
for example.

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00:33:14.706 --> 00:33:17.584
In some states,
those are not metally recyclable,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6954-1
00:33:17.584 --> 00:33:20.232
and so by putting them in their own
category,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6954-2
00:33:20.232 --> 00:33:23.226
you're able to designate just those
material types.

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00:33:23.736 --> 00:33:26.425
Recyclable,
until perhaps an alternative collection.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6977-1
00:33:26.425 --> 00:33:29.927
You know they might be handled by an
alternative collection program,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6977-2
00:33:29.927 --> 00:33:30.536
for example.

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00:33:30.736 --> 00:33:32.336
Yeah, that I consider.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6988-0
00:33:32.336 --> 00:33:33.896
I'm not saying you must do that.

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00:33:35.216 --> 00:33:38.637
So it's just so just to summarize,
putting it on the list as a material,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6990-0
00:33:35.296 --> 00:33:35.536
No.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/6998-1
00:33:38.637 --> 00:33:40.606
but that still doesn't mean it's gonna be.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7005-0
00:33:41.156 --> 00:33:43.556
Exactly. I'm talking about candidates, OK?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7013-0
00:33:43.756 --> 00:33:44.956
Great. Thank you.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7041-0
00:33:44.496 --> 00:33:47.547
Yeah.
So it's essentially like what we had done

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7041-1
00:33:47.547 --> 00:33:51.871
was a lot of these categories that other
states have disaggregated.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7041-2
00:33:51.871 --> 00:33:56.576
We did aggregate into those other form
categories for the base materials.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7046-0
00:33:56.656 --> 00:33:59.096
So you see like the flexible.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7077-0
00:33:59.826 --> 00:34:06.051
Toothpaste tube would be under the HDPE
other forms and and so our our logic

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7077-1
00:34:06.051 --> 00:34:12.842
there was thinking that as those as those
packaging material types if and when they

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7077-2
00:34:12.842 --> 00:34:15.106
were to have an alternative.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7090-0
00:34:15.296 --> 00:34:18.576
Collection program or they were to become
readily recyclable.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7099-0
00:34:18.736 --> 00:34:21.736
They would evolve to be their own type.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7107-0
00:34:22.056 --> 00:34:23.136
I I get what you're saying.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7124-0
00:34:22.056 --> 00:34:22.856
I I get what you're.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7125-0
00:34:23.136 --> 00:34:26.243
Perhaps the list should start off with
all the types,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7125-1
00:34:26.243 --> 00:34:28.776
regardless of what is happening, right?
OK.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7126-0
00:34:29.096 --> 00:34:30.856
We do also want to make this.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7141-0
00:34:32.616 --> 00:34:35.571
You know,
we don't wanna get too granular on the

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7141-1
00:34:35.571 --> 00:34:36.536
first iteration.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7150-0
00:34:36.536 --> 00:34:41.449
So yeah, I do wanna right?
Because all these types just to keep in

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00:34:41.449 --> 00:34:41.816
mind.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7177-0
00:34:43.426 --> 00:34:49.352
That the so would need to be auditing the
recycling streams for all these types of

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7177-1
00:34:49.352 --> 00:34:52.066
materials that do end up on this list.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7184-0
00:34:52.226 --> 00:34:55.346
So if if now we have types. Yeah,
for just.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7205-0
00:34:57.026 --> 00:34:59.744
Three months or for just, yeah.
Flexible tubes.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7195-0
00:34:57.196 --> 00:34:57.756
Three. Five for.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7201-0
00:34:57.396 --> 00:34:57.556
Five.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7197-0
00:34:57.756 --> 00:34:59.076
Justin. Yeah, we'll.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7203-0
00:34:57.756 --> 00:34:59.076
Justin, we'll.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7205-1
00:34:59.744 --> 00:35:02.066
And then producers would also have to be.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7231-0
00:35:04.126 --> 00:35:08.509
Sorting through a longer list to report,
so we want to,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7231-1
00:35:08.509 --> 00:35:11.406
you know that that was the intention.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7233-0
00:35:11.686 --> 00:35:12.166
Ryan just.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7248-0
00:35:11.796 --> 00:35:12.596
Yeah, I think I'll say our.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7250-0
00:35:12.596 --> 00:35:17.596
Invention was to start as simple as
possible to make it as easy as possible.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7253-0
00:35:17.716 --> 00:35:20.236
And that report going to produce.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7260-0
00:35:20.906 --> 00:35:24.826
Who produces the report and
municipalities to report and participate.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7295-0
00:35:25.066 --> 00:35:25.866
Exactly.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7296-0
00:35:26.386 --> 00:35:29.945
Yeah, I do wanna keep going,
but maybe we could circle back to the

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7296-1
00:35:29.945 --> 00:35:33.346
recyclability of plastic that is dyed
with carbon black 'cause.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7296-2
00:35:33.346 --> 00:35:36.906
I we could stand to collect a little more
information on that, OK.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7299-0
00:35:37.186 --> 00:35:38.746
I was going to originally.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7314-0
00:35:39.466 --> 00:35:42.046
Whip around.
So do we have anybody with a hand raised

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7314-1
00:35:42.046 --> 00:35:43.146
in the back corner yet?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7319-0
00:35:43.386 --> 00:35:45.026
So up here. OK, I have.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7324-0
00:35:45.306 --> 00:35:47.706
We'll get a chance to test if I speak yes.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7335-0
00:35:48.136 --> 00:35:50.616
This is just draft informal.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7367-0
00:35:49.516 --> 00:35:53.195
OK so I have a couple questions.
I went to this for the list of

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7367-1
00:35:53.195 --> 00:35:56.414
stakeholders.
Would a manufacturer of molded fiber list

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7367-2
00:35:56.414 --> 00:36:00.956
themselves as a processor and broker or
would they list themselves as a brand?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7376-0
00:36:01.876 --> 00:36:04.076
If you produce one of these materials.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7382-0
00:36:04.016 --> 00:36:05.896
You are you a legal owner of a brand.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7390-0
00:36:07.406 --> 00:36:08.646
Then you're a brand owner, sure.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7398-0
00:36:08.006 --> 00:36:10.686
I think it would be your.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7400-0
00:36:10.926 --> 00:36:13.046
As a producer of a packaging.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7407-0
00:36:14.466 --> 00:36:15.426
You wouldn't be reporting.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7412-0
00:36:15.426 --> 00:36:16.266
It would be the.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7421-0
00:36:16.056 --> 00:36:20.416
No, they're talking about this in QR code.
Here we have.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7432-0
00:36:18.696 --> 00:36:23.450
When when we need technical information,
I'm sending it to an entire group of

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7432-1
00:36:23.450 --> 00:36:25.096
molded fiber manufacturers.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7443-0
00:36:25.376 --> 00:36:28.976
Gonna submit technical information and I
just wanna give them instructions.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7453-0
00:36:29.056 --> 00:36:31.816
Are they a processor and broker or are
they a brand?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7457-0
00:36:31.816 --> 00:36:32.856
They're a brand owner.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7471-0
00:36:33.826 --> 00:36:36.746
Which is also the same as a producer.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7473-0
00:36:36.826 --> 00:36:37.666
Yeah. OK.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7486-0
00:36:37.666 --> 00:36:40.427
Great.
Then can you go back to the slide on the

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7486-1
00:36:40.427 --> 00:36:44.626
compostability and kinda went quickly,
this looks secondary designation.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7494-0
00:36:45.306 --> 00:36:47.506
What I'm confused about is for instance.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7513-0
00:36:47.896 --> 00:36:50.371
Molded fiber was listed as not
compostable,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7513-1
00:36:50.371 --> 00:36:53.296
but all of these producers have these
designations.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7517-0
00:36:53.496 --> 00:36:54.536
How does that happen?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7524-0
00:36:55.096 --> 00:36:55.736
OK.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7535-0
00:36:56.376 --> 00:36:57.216
So again.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7529-0
00:36:56.936 --> 00:36:57.456
Because you're.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7537-0
00:36:57.216 --> 00:37:00.416
Stop looking because you said it wasn't
readily recyclable.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7545-0
00:37:01.296 --> 00:37:03.976
That's a a good question.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7570-0
00:37:03.976 --> 00:37:06.638
No, I think it's just because, yeah,
this we,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7570-1
00:37:06.638 --> 00:37:10.690
we were leveraging the outcome of a
meeting like this to collect that

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7570-2
00:37:10.690 --> 00:37:11.616
information, OK.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7572-0
00:37:11.656 --> 00:37:12.656
Great, yes.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7580-0
00:37:13.456 --> 00:37:15.096
And then you had something you wanted to
point out.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7591-0
00:37:14.316 --> 00:37:19.196
The slide before this I think was the no
or the the one.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7596-0
00:37:18.056 --> 00:37:18.616
One minute.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7603-0
00:37:19.476 --> 00:37:22.436
One more that did recycling establishment
report.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7626-0
00:37:22.556 --> 00:37:27.436
Yeah. So when we, I,
I looked at this and on the OCC fibers,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7626-1
00:37:27.436 --> 00:37:33.436
what category would molded fiber molded
pulp products be reported in that?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7632-0
00:37:33.436 --> 00:37:33.956
I I don't know.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7634-0
00:37:33.956 --> 00:37:35.396
Maybe. Maybe someone.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7647-0
00:37:34.746 --> 00:37:38.626
We wouldn't capture it right now unless
we'll mix paper.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7652-0
00:37:37.446 --> 00:37:38.406
But they they are.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7649-0
00:37:38.626 --> 00:37:40.346
Reporting it as mixed paper.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7658-0
00:37:38.766 --> 00:37:39.526
Are recycling.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7662-0
00:37:38.766 --> 00:37:39.166
Are.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7663-0
00:37:39.526 --> 00:37:42.926
Is there something to sell it?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7671-0
00:37:39.526 --> 00:37:42.766
Is there something to sell?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7657-0
00:37:40.346 --> 00:37:41.706
They're reporting it as mixed paper, yeah.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7677-0
00:37:41.706 --> 00:37:41.986
And then.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7673-0
00:37:42.926 --> 00:37:45.446
I mean,
what what category would you guys be

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7679-0
00:37:43.426 --> 00:37:44.946
You're.
I think that's why they got listed.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7680-0
00:37:45.106 --> 00:37:45.266
Not.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7673-1
00:37:45.446 --> 00:37:46.006
reporting?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7681-0
00:37:45.946 --> 00:37:46.626
Enlisted.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7688-0
00:37:46.986 --> 00:37:48.826
So get lumped in with paperboard.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7690-0
00:37:48.586 --> 00:37:50.946
It was part of the right.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7714-0
00:37:48.586 --> 00:37:50.186
It was part of the.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7689-0
00:37:49.866 --> 00:37:50.346
Type of ball.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7715-0
00:37:50.946 --> 00:37:56.071
So that's part of the question. Again,
if on that, yeah,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7715-1
00:37:56.071 --> 00:38:02.546
that QR code form is we have a question
relating to paper and or paper.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7745-0
00:38:03.366 --> 00:38:08.533
Folded paper forms and we wanna know more
about its recyclability and about we know

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7745-1
00:38:08.533 --> 00:38:13.454
that if it it meets the compostability
standard it's compostable and we plan to

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7745-2
00:38:13.454 --> 00:38:18.006
have after conversation we plan to,
you know, make some changes for that.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7771-0
00:38:19.156 --> 00:38:24.436
But that is part of the the the questions
that we have for you, yeah.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7768-0
00:38:23.896 --> 00:38:24.416
The reason?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7779-0
00:38:24.416 --> 00:38:26.856
I ask it 'cause I mean,
this is we're talking about like a Carlos.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7782-0
00:38:27.096 --> 00:38:28.216
Are recycled, right?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7786-0
00:38:27.096 --> 00:38:27.816
Are recycled.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7788-0
00:38:28.216 --> 00:38:30.576
So it's it's in this data.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7796-0
00:38:28.216 --> 00:38:29.936
So it's it's in this.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7797-0
00:38:30.576 --> 00:38:33.096
It's just what category was it reported
on?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7823-0
00:38:32.846 --> 00:38:37.115
Right. So it's it is,
but we also want to know is is there was

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7823-1
00:38:37.115 --> 00:38:42.807
some question on whether or not it it was
contamination in those bales or if it was

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7823-2
00:38:42.807 --> 00:38:44.366
targeted for recycling?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7828-0
00:38:45.246 --> 00:38:46.806
Yeah. So we want more information.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7835-0
00:38:46.806 --> 00:38:49.126
We don't know that information because
this is the data we have.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7841-0
00:38:49.846 --> 00:38:50.606
It's so you broke out.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7849-0
00:38:50.606 --> 00:38:53.126
I'm Christopher Lacase and Weston.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7861-0
00:38:53.406 --> 00:38:58.520
We're a company that has produced molded
fiber equipment for North America for

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7861-1
00:38:58.520 --> 00:38:59.686
over thirty years.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7884-0
00:39:00.556 --> 00:39:04.811
We're experts in the industry based on
actual production equipment,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7884-1
00:39:04.811 --> 00:39:09.316
so we produce equipment that goes from
two tons up to two hundred tons.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7897-0
00:39:09.896 --> 00:39:12.976
We have been in every mill in Maine.
Great.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7903-0
00:39:12.996 --> 00:39:14.696
Been in every mill in North America.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7921-0
00:39:15.336 --> 00:39:20.560
These are both recycling facilities and
we take paper and recycle them into forms

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7921-1
00:39:20.560 --> 00:39:24.256
which are then readily recycled
throughout North America.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7938-0
00:39:24.926 --> 00:39:28.566
In the paper stream and there are also
virgin fiber facilities.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7947-0
00:39:28.606 --> 00:39:32.606
We take woodland pulp and make it into
virgin forms.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7943-0
00:39:32.696 --> 00:39:33.056
OK.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7951-0
00:39:33.166 --> 00:39:34.406
Readily recyclable correct.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7949-0
00:39:34.536 --> 00:39:35.016
Great.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7963-0
00:39:34.766 --> 00:39:39.064
You are saying one thing.
You're not wanting to break out these

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7963-1
00:39:39.064 --> 00:39:40.206
into independent.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7973-0
00:39:40.976 --> 00:39:43.496
So this is sorry, yes.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7977-0
00:39:41.186 --> 00:39:43.066
Small subjects, excuse me.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/7990-0
00:39:43.826 --> 00:39:48.426
And then you're going through and asking
these recyclers where they're using this.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8004-0
00:39:43.826 --> 00:39:48.186
And then you're going through and asking
these recyclers where they're using.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8006-0
00:39:48.426 --> 00:39:52.833
This is in the this multifiber forms
multifiber paper. Yeah,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8006-1
00:39:52.833 --> 00:39:55.146
is in the standard paper stream.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8011-0
00:39:55.726 --> 00:39:56.086
Yeah.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8027-0
00:39:55.846 --> 00:40:00.652
You're then breaking it out in your
readily recycled piece and saying it's

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8044-0
00:39:55.846 --> 00:40:00.639
You're then breaking it out in your
readily recycled piece and saying it's

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8044-1
00:40:00.639 --> 00:40:01.406
not readily.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8027-1
00:40:00.652 --> 00:40:02.126
not readily recyclable.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8045-0
00:40:02.126 --> 00:40:05.930
So you're saying one thing,
you don't want to have all these little

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8045-1
00:40:05.930 --> 00:40:09.846
independent things and yet you've
classified molded fiber separately?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8051-0
00:40:10.316 --> 00:40:11.796
Instead, it's not really.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8053-0
00:40:11.456 --> 00:40:12.816
And that is where I was getting at.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8084-0
00:40:11.456 --> 00:40:12.696
And that is where I was getting.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8085-0
00:40:12.816 --> 00:40:16.758
Where we're we're gonna come back to that
with when we're updating the list,

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00:40:16.758 --> 00:40:17.936
that is something that.

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00:40:17.836 --> 00:40:18.276
So.

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00:40:17.936 --> 00:40:21.453
We you're in a position of readily
accepting technical feedback,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8086-1
00:40:21.453 --> 00:40:22.536
so you can make the.

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00:40:22.536 --> 00:40:24.456
Right. Exactly. Got it. OK.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8090-0
00:40:24.496 --> 00:40:25.816
So that's what this is.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8098-0
00:40:24.496 --> 00:40:25.816
So that's what is.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8099-0
00:40:25.036 --> 00:40:28.036
For this classification, right? Yes. OK,
yes.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8119-0
00:40:26.506 --> 00:40:26.706
Great.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8120-0
00:40:27.946 --> 00:40:31.753
Again,
this was this is an initial stakeholder

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8120-1
00:40:31.753 --> 00:40:37.828
meeting to discuss the conceptual straw
man we put out based on the rather

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00:40:32.666 --> 00:40:33.666
Informal.

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00:40:37.828 --> 00:40:40.826
granular data from our own recycling.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8126-0
00:40:40.896 --> 00:40:42.376
Rather granular, yeah.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8144-0
00:40:42.226 --> 00:40:46.746
How the broker reports and that's what
we're trying to do is say, OK, what what?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8137-0
00:40:46.566 --> 00:40:47.846
What are we missing?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8142-0
00:40:46.806 --> 00:40:47.846
Are we missing?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8149-0
00:40:46.816 --> 00:40:48.096
What's interesting here?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8152-0
00:40:48.136 --> 00:40:51.136
Please let us know so we can better
reform the list.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8157-0
00:40:51.136 --> 00:40:53.456
Yes, thank you.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8161-0
00:40:51.666 --> 00:40:52.226
Yes.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8170-0
00:40:54.106 --> 00:40:58.228
Yeah, I'm gonna keep going.
And I know we have questions online.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8170-1
00:40:58.228 --> 00:40:59.306
I've really over.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8182-0
00:40:59.386 --> 00:41:04.226
I've skipped so before I start back on
this half, I'm gonna Yep go to online.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8188-0
00:41:04.426 --> 00:41:06.026
Take those questions, Andy.

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00:41:06.746 --> 00:41:08.266
I think is the first person.
I feel like I'm not.

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00:41:07.166 --> 00:41:08.846
And I really feel like I'm not.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8239-0
00:41:09.548 --> 00:41:14.844
<v Andy Hackman>Andy Hackman, on behalf of mayor Pen.
I know we've had some dialogue about this</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8239-1
00:41:14.844 --> 00:41:19.147
<v Andy Hackman>a little bit already offline,
but I want to under score that the</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8239-2
00:41:19.147 --> 00:41:24.443
<v Andy Hackman>recycling establishment reports we have
none of that data and so would ask that</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8239-3
00:41:24.443 --> 00:41:27.158
<v Andy Hackman>at least we get some summary of the data.</v>

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00:41:27.158 --> 00:41:31.082
<v Andy Hackman>I understand that each individual
establishment report is CBI,</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8265-1
00:41:31.082 --> 00:41:35.068
<v Andy Hackman>but for us to really understand the
decisions that you've made.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8272-0
00:41:35.878 --> 00:41:39.238
<v Andy Hackman>We need some data to understand, you know.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8283-0
00:41:39.988 --> 00:41:43.908
<v Andy Hackman>How we're meeting some of the criteria,
so would request that.</v>

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00:41:42.956 --> 00:41:43.436
So.

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00:41:45.548 --> 00:41:46.068
<v Andy Hackman>Go ahead.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8299-0
00:41:46.636 --> 00:41:50.956
These are not necessarily decisions as
much as their proposals.

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00:41:52.426 --> 00:41:57.037
So the we are proposing that this is how
it comes out,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8325-1
00:41:57.037 --> 00:42:02.906
but again subject to change and what we
need from you is information.

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00:42:03.196 --> 00:42:09.089
Back on these criteria and help us to
answer these questions right for any of

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00:42:09.089 --> 00:42:13.698
the material types.
If you have data that can help us answer

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8341-0
00:42:09.408 --> 00:42:09.808
<v Andy Hackman>OK.</v>

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00:42:13.698 --> 00:42:16.116
these questions, we want it, OK.

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00:42:16.758 --> 00:42:17.238
<v Andy Hackman>OK.</v>

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00:42:17.438 --> 00:42:18.878
<v Andy Hackman>So on that point.</v>

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00:42:17.986 --> 00:42:18.186
Yeah.

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00:42:20.508 --> 00:42:25.111
<v Andy Hackman>On that point,
then obviously some of the criteria here</v>

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00:42:20.826 --> 00:42:21.146
Excuse me.

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00:42:25.111 --> 00:42:27.988
<v Andy Hackman>are not main based criteria, right?</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8395-0
00:42:27.988 --> 00:42:32.822
<v Andy Hackman>Two markets in North America,
so you will accept national information</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8395-1
00:42:32.822 --> 00:42:36.068
<v Andy Hackman>towards the the criteria that are listed
here.</v>

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00:42:38.396 --> 00:42:39.116
Yes.

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00:42:40.058 --> 00:42:40.458
<v Andy Hackman>OK.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8444-0
00:42:40.498 --> 00:42:46.010
<v Andy Hackman>So consistency with other states is
possible if you're accepting national</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8444-1
00:42:46.010 --> 00:42:49.436
<v Andy Hackman>data,
and so one of the things that we highly</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8444-2
00:42:49.436 --> 00:42:53.383
<v Andy Hackman>recommend,
there are 21 different product categories</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8444-3
00:42:53.383 --> 00:42:58.076
<v Andy Hackman>in Colorado for example,
that are listed as readily recyclable</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8444-4
00:42:58.076 --> 00:42:59.938
<v Andy Hackman>that are not listed here.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8471-0
00:42:59.938 --> 00:43:04.579
<v Andy Hackman>So we will be providing that list of
those other categories from the other</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8471-1
00:43:04.579 --> 00:43:08.973
<v Andy Hackman>states that are considered rather
recyclable in other states that meet</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8471-2
00:43:08.973 --> 00:43:09.778
<v Andy Hackman>those criter.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8477-0
00:43:09.908 --> 00:43:11.868
<v Andy Hackman>Criteria and you know nationally.</v>

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00:43:12.216 --> 00:43:12.496
OK.

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00:43:12.496 --> 00:43:17.978
So that's that's one thing the markets
are in North America, but for throughput,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8493-0
00:43:17.376 --> 00:43:17.936
Erica.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8518-1
00:43:17.978 --> 00:43:23.527
is it common enough to warrant sortation?
That's where it comes back to Maine are

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8518-2
00:43:23.527 --> 00:43:26.776
our because we're a home rule state one
second.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8544-0
00:43:27.586 --> 00:43:32.532
Because we're a home rule state,
each municipality is responsible for

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8544-1
00:43:32.532 --> 00:43:36.843
their waste management,
and so our municipalities need to be

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8544-2
00:43:36.843 --> 00:43:40.306
collecting and recycling this.
And at this time.

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00:43:41.318 --> 00:43:44.454
<v Andy Hackman>Well,
then we need that data to understand what</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8574-1
00:43:44.454 --> 00:43:48.048
<v Andy Hackman>the throughput is.
If we're going to be able to have a</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8574-2
00:43:48.048 --> 00:43:52.099
<v Andy Hackman>intelligent conversation about what the
actual throughput is,</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8574-3
00:43:52.099 --> 00:43:53.798
<v Andy Hackman>we need some of that data.</v>

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00:43:54.276 --> 00:43:57.310
OK.
And so that might be something that we

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8594-1
00:43:57.310 --> 00:44:00.556
can we can work to see if we can make
happen.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8590-0
00:43:58.506 --> 00:43:59.786
See if we can. Yeah.

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00:43:58.506 --> 00:43:59.786
See if we yeah.

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00:44:01.376 --> 00:44:01.616
Yes.

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00:44:01.408 --> 00:44:01.728
<v Andy Hackman>OK.</v>

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00:44:02.206 --> 00:44:02.886
Yeah. Eleven.

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00:44:03.486 --> 00:44:04.406
Oh, go ahead.

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00:44:04.908 --> 00:44:08.331
<v Andy Hackman>Additionally,
I was going to ask a question about store</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8647-1
00:44:08.331 --> 00:44:11.510
<v Andy Hackman>drop off.
If any data has been collected from store</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8618-0
00:44:09.426 --> 00:44:09.586
Yeah.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8647-2
00:44:11.510 --> 00:44:15.850
<v Andy Hackman>drop off recycling programs,
that's obviously not a municipal program,</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8647-3
00:44:15.850 --> 00:44:18.967
<v Andy Hackman>but it is collected in the state and is,
you know,</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8647-4
00:44:18.967 --> 00:44:21.718
<v Andy Hackman>being recycled out of the state of Maine
so.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8660-0
00:44:21.748 --> 00:44:24.897
<v Andy Hackman>Has any data been collected there or is
that something you're looking for</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8660-1
00:44:24.897 --> 00:44:25.748
<v Andy Hackman>industry to provide?</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8666-0
00:44:27.676 --> 00:44:29.316
So those would be alternative.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8673-0
00:44:29.356 --> 00:44:31.636
Yeah. We haven't collected any data.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8680-0
00:44:32.236 --> 00:44:35.029
Well,
actually we have because those retailers

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8680-1
00:44:35.029 --> 00:44:36.396
would serve as brokers.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8698-0
00:44:36.796 --> 00:44:40.676
So it's a broker is picking material up
from a store drop off.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8690-0
00:44:36.836 --> 00:44:37.956
We have collected.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8700-0
00:44:40.676 --> 00:44:41.156
They would.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8705-0
00:44:41.316 --> 00:44:42.436
They should be reporting.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8712-0
00:44:42.236 --> 00:44:46.036
Right, like Shaw 's or Hannaford,
picking up plastic materials, yes.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8727-0
00:44:48.226 --> 00:44:50.677
Yes,
we that should be available with the

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8740-0
00:44:48.226 --> 00:44:50.900
Yes,
we that should be available with the

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8727-1
00:44:50.677 --> 00:44:51.786
broker information.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8740-1
00:44:50.900 --> 00:44:51.346
broker.

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00:44:51.786 --> 00:44:54.332
Again,
that's something that we just need to

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8741-1
00:44:54.332 --> 00:44:56.426
figure out it how or if we can share.

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00:44:57.578 --> 00:45:02.868
<v Andy Hackman>Yeah, aside from the data though,
like that's a material that's gonna that</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8751-0
00:44:57.786 --> 00:44:59.586
Thank you, chair.

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00:44:58.186 --> 00:44:59.346
How that's done?

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00:45:02.868 --> 00:45:07.452
<v Andy Hackman>has clearly qualified.
And there are a number of categories that</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8773-2
00:45:07.452 --> 00:45:09.498
<v Andy Hackman>would then qualify as having.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8779-0
00:45:09.676 --> 00:45:11.116
That's two markets.

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00:45:11.558 --> 00:45:14.588
<v Andy Hackman>The the. Yeah,
two markets that have two markets and</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8821-1
00:45:14.588 --> 00:45:17.960
<v Andy Hackman>then would have the throughput because it
is being sorted,</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8821-2
00:45:17.960 --> 00:45:22.705
<v Andy Hackman>warranty sortation in the state of Maine
because there is a retail drop off stream</v>

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00:45:22.705 --> 00:45:26.478
<v Andy Hackman>that occurs and 60% of the material
that's collected is is being.</v>

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00:45:23.676 --> 00:45:24.196
OK.

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00:45:26.868 --> 00:45:32.010
<v Andy Hackman>Targeted because basically that entire
bin in a retail location is is has been</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8840-1
00:45:32.010 --> 00:45:34.028
<v Andy Hackman>targeted and is being recycled.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8862-0
00:45:34.346 --> 00:45:37.305
Right.
So sixty percent of the material targeted

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8862-1
00:45:37.305 --> 00:45:40.506
actually relates to the specific piece of
packaging.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8881-0
00:45:40.586 --> 00:45:45.554
So like if you have a cardboard box with
a plastic like a pasta box,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8859-0
00:45:41.388 --> 00:45:41.588
<v Andy Hackman>Yep.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8881-1
00:45:45.554 --> 00:45:50.306
as that plastic window.
So sixty percent of its cardboard, right?

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00:45:45.968 --> 00:45:46.488
<v Andy Hackman>Yeah.</v>

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00:45:50.758 --> 00:45:53.715
<v Andy Hackman>Yeah.
And and your your bread bag that's</v>

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00:45:51.586 --> 00:45:51.946
How do you?

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00:45:53.715 --> 00:45:58.403
<v Andy Hackman>recycled at Hannaford,
100% of that material is targeted because</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/8906-2
00:45:58.403 --> 00:45:59.918
<v Andy Hackman>it's, it's all. Yeah.</v>

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00:45:58.446 --> 00:46:00.486
Exactly that one material.

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00:46:00.566 --> 00:46:05.910
It's a mono material, exactly, but again,
with common enough to warrant sortation.

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00:46:05.910 --> 00:46:11.125
If Hannaford 's picking up and there's a
Hannaford in every community, then yes,

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00:46:11.125 --> 00:46:12.606
but we do have to keep.

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00:46:13.626 --> 00:46:16.957
Keep make sure that that's something
that's happening across the state,

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00:46:16.957 --> 00:46:20.704
not just in like one part of the state,
which I think is happening for for those

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00:46:20.704 --> 00:46:21.306
supermarkets.

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00:46:21.706 --> 00:46:24.426
Yes, but it's not necessarily, yeah.

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00:46:22.768 --> 00:46:23.328
<v Andy Hackman>So.</v>

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00:46:24.588 --> 00:46:27.259
<v Andy Hackman>OK,
so so store drop off is a is a legitimate</v>

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00:46:27.259 --> 00:46:30.394
<v Andy Hackman>characteristic to consider.
Things rather recyclable,</v>

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00:46:30.394 --> 00:46:34.749
<v Andy Hackman>and right now you know a lot of forms
that you've indicated are not really</v>

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00:46:34.749 --> 00:46:35.388
<v Andy Hackman>recyclable.</v>

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00:46:37.078 --> 00:46:41.478
<v Andy Hackman>Are in that category, so would encourage.
We will comment on that.</v>

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00:46:39.546 --> 00:46:40.146
So.

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00:46:41.518 --> 00:46:44.281
<v Andy Hackman>We'll and et cetera,
but would encourage the department to</v>

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00:46:42.056 --> 00:46:42.336
Great.

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00:46:44.281 --> 00:46:45.078
<v Andy Hackman>think about that.</v>

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00:46:46.456 --> 00:46:46.736
OK.

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00:46:46.736 --> 00:46:47.056
Thank you.

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<v Andy Hackman>And then the final thing that I'll
mention in terms of the statute,</v>

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00:46:50.826 --> 00:46:54.078
<v Andy Hackman>the molded fiber producers are might be
suppliers, but.</v>

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00:46:54.388 --> 00:46:55.588
<v Andy Hackman>They're not brand owners.</v>

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00:46:55.628 --> 00:47:00.214
<v Andy Hackman>Brand owners would be General Mills or an
electronics company that uses those</v>

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00:47:00.214 --> 00:47:01.508
<v Andy Hackman>molded fiber elements.</v>

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00:47:01.708 --> 00:47:05.668
<v Andy Hackman>So you may need to categorize that as
supplier reporting.</v>

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00:47:05.668 --> 00:47:08.668
<v Andy Hackman>It's not defined in the statute,
not defined in the regulation.</v>

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00:47:10.078 --> 00:47:14.285
<v Andy Hackman>But the molded fiber producer doesn't put
their brand on it and sell a product in</v>

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00:47:14.285 --> 00:47:15.158
<v Andy Hackman>packaging, right?</v>

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00:47:15.238 --> 00:47:16.838
<v Andy Hackman>Because this is about packaging.</v>

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00:47:16.838 --> 00:47:20.525
<v Andy Hackman>So I'm glad that folks are there in the
room to talk about it, and that's right.</v>

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00:47:20.525 --> 00:47:23.758
<v Andy Hackman>But under the law, under the regulations,
they wouldn't be a producer.</v>

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00:47:24.588 --> 00:47:27.824
<v Andy Hackman>It would be, you know,
the brand owner that sells cereal or</v>

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00:47:27.824 --> 00:47:31.708
<v Andy Hackman>sells electronic or or takes from that
person a packaging material, so.</v>

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00:47:33.136 --> 00:47:35.161
That's.
Do you have something that you wanna say

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00:47:33.878 --> 00:47:34.038
<v Andy Hackman>Just.</v>

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00:47:35.161 --> 00:47:35.616
about that?

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00:47:35.776 --> 00:47:36.616
Because I first.

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00:47:35.866 --> 00:47:38.706
Yeah, given the consumer definition.

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00:47:40.186 --> 00:47:43.226
It you know with the packaging material
definition,

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00:47:43.226 --> 00:47:46.676
it just it references any material that's
used to contain,

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00:47:46.676 --> 00:47:51.354
distribute deliver present a product that
is sold to a consumer and because the

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00:47:51.354 --> 00:47:56.032
consumer does capture entities that are
using a product to create a new product

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00:47:56.032 --> 00:47:57.026
and a service it.

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00:47:57.066 --> 00:47:57.706
Offers.

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00:47:58.626 --> 00:48:02.492
Then we are looking at some of these
entities,

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00:48:02.492 --> 00:48:05.866
like Woodland Hall LLC and manufacturers.

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00:48:06.496 --> 00:48:09.736
Of material as being producers.

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00:48:10.568 --> 00:48:11.848
<v Andy Hackman>Yeah, but that would be.</v>

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00:48:11.848 --> 00:48:15.048
<v Andy Hackman>And then if they are producers,
it would be.</v>

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00:48:14.236 --> 00:48:15.236
Not in every instance.

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00:48:15.756 --> 00:48:16.756
Not in every instance.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/9300-0
00:48:16.756 --> 00:48:19.516
That wasn't on the category.
You had processors?

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00:48:16.998 --> 00:48:17.118
<v Andy Hackman>The.</v>

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00:48:20.266 --> 00:48:20.666
Cran.

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00:48:20.756 --> 00:48:22.476
Processors. Brokers. That's.

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00:48:20.756 --> 00:48:22.836
Processors. Brokers. That's one.

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00:48:22.836 --> 00:48:27.996
And then you have municipalities and then
there was brand owner or?

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00:48:30.146 --> 00:48:32.666
Producer it just said brand OK.

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00:48:32.238 --> 00:48:32.598
<v Andy Hackman>Yeah.</v>

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00:48:32.906 --> 00:48:34.706
A brand would also be a producer.

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00:48:36.478 --> 00:48:40.459
<v Andy Hackman>But if they are producer,
then that if they're selling molded fiber,</v>

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00:48:40.459 --> 00:48:44.843
<v Andy Hackman>putting that in a box and shipping that
to another industrial or commercial</v>

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00:48:43.516 --> 00:48:44.276
You can also.

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00:48:44.843 --> 00:48:47.728
<v Andy Hackman>entity in Maine,
it would be the box that they're</v>

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00:48:47.728 --> 00:48:48.478
<v Andy Hackman>reporting on.</v>

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00:48:48.478 --> 00:48:52.958
<v Andy Hackman>That's what they would be the producer of
that the molded fiber would be the</v>

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00:48:51.086 --> 00:48:51.246
Yeah.

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00:48:52.958 --> 00:48:54.878
<v Andy Hackman>product, then it wouldn't become.</v>

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00:48:54.126 --> 00:48:56.126
Correct. Right, exactly.

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00:48:54.878 --> 00:48:57.638
<v Andy Hackman>It wouldn't become packaging until later.</v>

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00:48:58.166 --> 00:49:00.966
Yes, that's correct. But they would still.

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00:49:00.198 --> 00:49:01.958
<v Andy Hackman>Until used by somebody else.</v>

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00:49:01.136 --> 00:49:05.656
Will be responsible for packaging to ship
out their product.

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00:49:05.656 --> 00:49:06.616
So, like the cardboard box?

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00:49:05.888 --> 00:49:08.088
<v Andy Hackman>Yeah,
but that's not the actual molded fiber.</v>

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00:49:08.128 --> 00:49:14.208
<v Andy Hackman>That's that is a product when it's sold
in a box, which is OK.</v>

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00:49:09.116 --> 00:49:09.636
Right.

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00:49:12.866 --> 00:49:15.066
Yeah, that's not that was not.

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00:49:14.876 --> 00:49:16.116
Andy paverside.

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00:49:15.066 --> 00:49:17.546
Thank you for that clarification. Yes.

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00:49:16.156 --> 00:49:18.396
But that is a good point to clarify, yes.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/9473-0
00:49:20.636 --> 00:49:23.792
I think we have some more questions
online before we come back to the ones in

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00:49:23.506 --> 00:49:25.306
At least, yeah, the man in the vest.

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00:49:23.792 --> 00:49:24.156
the room.

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00:49:27.346 --> 00:49:28.226
David harbor.

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00:49:27.406 --> 00:49:27.886
Oh, mark.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/9484-0
00:49:30.916 --> 00:49:31.276
Tell me.

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00:49:33.776 --> 00:49:34.696
I think you're still muted.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/9497-0
00:49:33.776 --> 00:49:34.496
I think you're still.

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00:49:34.696 --> 00:49:36.656
Give us one second. We're working on that.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/9502-0
00:49:37.156 --> 00:49:37.716
The computer.

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00:49:38.856 --> 00:49:40.096
Oh my gosh, thank you.

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00:49:41.626 --> 00:49:44.066
David, unmute yourself. Yep, he can't.

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00:49:44.106 --> 00:49:45.106
Can you unmute him?

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<v Barber, David>Hey, there we go.</v>

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00:49:45.578 --> 00:49:46.338
<v Barber, David>You hear me now?</v>

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00:49:47.056 --> 00:49:47.336
Yeah.

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<v Barber, David>Excellent. Alright.
I got two quick things.</v>

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00:49:50.958 --> 00:49:52.238
<v Barber, David>The first one.</v>

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00:49:52.598 --> 00:49:55.518
<v Barber, David>Dave Barber from Tyson Foods and and
Barber foods.</v>

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00:49:55.518 --> 00:49:58.518
<v Barber, David>So the first one is consistency.</v>

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00:49:59.038 --> 00:50:04.586
<v Barber, David>We've been going through the list in
Oregon trying to figure out how much this</v>

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00:50:04.586 --> 00:50:10.345
<v Barber, David>is going to cost us and and it's very it.
It would be great if everybody could be</v>

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00:50:10.345 --> 00:50:11.118
<v Barber, David>consistent.</v>

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00:50:12.358 --> 00:50:17.651
<v Barber, David>Having you know we deal with in all
States and we have manufacturing in a</v>

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00:50:17.651 --> 00:50:23.158
<v Barber, David>number of States and it is a huge problem
if all these things are different.</v>

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00:50:23.228 --> 00:50:27.769
<v Barber, David>So that's my first point and my second
point I I know we're a brand,</v>

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00:50:27.769 --> 00:50:31.981
<v Barber, David>but as a manufacturer,
would we be responsible and this and the</v>

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00:50:31.981 --> 00:50:37.246
<v Barber, David>reason I'm asking the question is because
the the packaging material that comes</v>

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00:50:37.246 --> 00:50:40.998
<v Barber, David>through the plant is different than what
material is in.</v>

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00:50:41.028 --> 00:50:45.502
<v Barber, David>The field and I just wanted to clarify
that and I've not been able to get a</v>

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00:50:45.502 --> 00:50:46.268
<v Barber, David>great answer.</v>

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00:50:46.268 --> 00:50:47.788
<v Barber, David>Could you clarify that for me?</v>

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00:50:49.806 --> 00:50:56.056
The question is the material that the
plant is using to make the packaging

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00:50:56.056 --> 00:50:56.806
material.

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00:50:56.876 --> 00:50:57.596
Is that material?

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00:50:57.596 --> 00:50:58.316
Packaging material.

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00:50:58.316 --> 00:51:00.316
I'm gonna need you to clarify your
question please.

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00:51:00.038 --> 00:51:00.438
<v Barber, David>OK.</v>

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00:51:00.438 --> 00:51:06.335
<v Barber, David>So this is the waste stream that comes
into the plant that actually goes out to</v>

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00:51:06.335 --> 00:51:12.158
<v Barber, David>either incineration or landfill from the
plant that does not go to the market.</v>

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00:51:13.026 --> 00:51:16.586
So is it sold or is are you paying for
the?

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00:51:13.026 --> 00:51:16.346
So is it sold or is are you paying for?

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00:51:16.586 --> 00:51:20.786
Are you just putting it in something to
get it to the landfill or to get?

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00:51:20.128 --> 00:51:24.732
<v Barber, David>No, this is this is we we bring in,
you know, a half 1,000,</v>

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00:51:24.732 --> 00:51:30.871
<v Barber, David>000 lbs of materials each week that are
packaged in something and those some of</v>

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00:51:30.871 --> 00:51:36.089
<v Barber, David>those materials go either into
incineration or landfill are is that</v>

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00:51:36.089 --> 00:51:38.008
<v Barber, David>included in this program?</v>

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Are you talking about like you're bring?

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The stuff that's.

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00:51:41.646 --> 00:51:45.486
Delivered from their materials are
delivered to them like they buy chicken.

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00:51:45.216 --> 00:51:49.034
Buy chicken and the chickens got a
wrapper in a box and all that,

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00:51:49.034 --> 00:51:52.216
and then you're making it into Nuggets.
All right, so.

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00:51:54.946 --> 00:51:56.586
For the definition, yeah.

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00:51:56.406 --> 00:51:58.954
Right,
because you're using that to make

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00:51:58.954 --> 00:52:01.006
something else. So that would be.

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00:52:00.878 --> 00:52:01.038
<v Barber, David>What?</v>

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00:52:01.806 --> 00:52:02.366
Into.

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00:52:02.246 --> 00:52:02.286
A.

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00:52:02.326 --> 00:52:03.806
Yeah, in this case.

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00:52:04.426 --> 00:52:04.786
Right.

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00:52:06.626 --> 00:52:09.946
Tyson food meeting the definition of a
consumer right.

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00:52:06.626 --> 00:52:09.346
Tyson food meeting the definition of a
consumer.

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00:52:09.946 --> 00:52:13.944
So the the product being sold to Tyson
food, the packaging material,

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00:52:13.944 --> 00:52:18.406
the material encompassing that product,
it meets the definition of packaging

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00:52:18.406 --> 00:52:18.986
materials.

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00:52:19.146 --> 00:52:23.506
The so the entity selling that to Tyson
food.

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00:52:24.346 --> 00:52:28.092
Is a producer.
They would be reporting on the material

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00:52:28.092 --> 00:52:32.995
that is containing, presenting,
delivering the material that your Tyson

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00:52:32.995 --> 00:52:34.426
food is is accepting.

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00:52:34.576 --> 00:52:37.056
Is buying right? Yes.

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00:52:37.798 --> 00:52:41.265
<v Barber, David>OK. That, that that is clear now,
this is another,</v>

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00:52:41.265 --> 00:52:46.431
<v Barber, David>this is a little bit of a side thing.
All of the material that comes out of</v>

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00:52:46.431 --> 00:52:50.238
<v Barber, David>this plant and it's a,
it's a lot goes to incineration.</v>

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00:52:52.498 --> 00:52:54.698
<v Barber, David>For energy and it goes to Eco main.</v>

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<v Barber, David>There's no recycling of all any of that
stuff, so we're going through all this,</v>

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00:53:02.202 --> 00:53:02.878
<v Barber, David>all this.</v>

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00:53:04.678 --> 00:53:06.518
<v Barber, David>Understanding of what's going on in that
waste stream.</v>

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00:53:06.518 --> 00:53:08.438
<v Barber, David>But it's all getting burned for energy.</v>

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00:53:09.956 --> 00:53:11.636
Right, still needs to be managed though.

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That's a that's a.

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<v Barber, David>So you so you manage it by you,
we report it by category,</v>

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<v Barber, David>but it all goes into the same way.</v>

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<v Barber, David>Stream do I have that right?</v>

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00:53:20.196 --> 00:53:21.516
So right there, we know.

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Yeah,
that's it's not part of the reimbursement.

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00:53:21.796 --> 00:53:23.116
Yeah, that's it's not part of the.

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00:53:23.756 --> 00:53:27.882
So the producer is paying for that
material to the stewardship organization,

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00:53:27.882 --> 00:53:30.401
but since that material is not being
recycled,

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00:53:30.401 --> 00:53:34.206
none of those tons are accounted for in a
reimbursement for any of the

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00:53:34.206 --> 00:53:37.476
municipalities because they're not
managing that Tyson food.

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<v Barber, David>Got it.</v>

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00:53:38.206 --> 00:53:40.726
Is just burning it. Yeah. Yep.

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<v Barber, David>OK.</v>

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<v Barber, David>Alright, thank you.</v>

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Painful and it's not actually.

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00:53:44.196 --> 00:53:47.596
Gone. And so right,
what comes into the fund and not.

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00:53:46.926 --> 00:53:47.326
It's not.

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00:53:46.926 --> 00:53:47.166
It's.

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There's no, there's no.

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00:53:48.476 --> 00:53:50.076
What equals? What comes?

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00:53:50.156 --> 00:53:50.676
Out of the fund?

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00:53:50.676 --> 00:53:52.156
Oh, if you recycle it, there's.

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00:53:52.956 --> 00:53:55.480
If it's recycled,
the municipalities get reimbursed.

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00:53:55.096 --> 00:53:56.616
Even though it's not an adaptive.

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00:53:55.480 --> 00:53:58.196
If it's designated by the recyclable your
fee structure.

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Got it.

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00:53:59.306 --> 00:53:59.506
OK.

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00:53:59.506 --> 00:54:03.426
So we're whipping back around to this
side. So Krista?

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OK.

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Crystal Westman Pors products council.
We have a whole host of comments that I

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will submit electronically for you.
But the first thing that we tried to do

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when the list the draft list came out was
I tried to consolidate how main is

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00:54:21.439 --> 00:54:24.526
designating materials versus California
and O.

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00:54:26.086 --> 00:54:28.286
They're much larger markets than Maine.

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00:54:28.406 --> 00:54:33.645
Their programs are ahead of Maine,
so it really doesn't make sense for Maine

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00:54:33.645 --> 00:54:34.326
to try to.

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00:54:34.756 --> 00:54:39.515
To develop its own terminology and its
own categories when other states are

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00:54:39.515 --> 00:54:44.650
ahead of us and they're already doing it
and producers are going to do what those

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00:54:44.650 --> 00:54:48.157
states tell them to do,
not what main tells them to do,

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00:54:48.157 --> 00:54:50.036
our market is very small here.

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00:54:50.766 --> 00:54:50.886
But.

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00:54:50.886 --> 00:54:54.662
That aside,
when I started looking at means

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categories versus California 's
California 's are really concise.

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00:55:00.726 --> 00:55:03.806
They have more designations, but.

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00:55:04.236 --> 00:55:07.316
It's really clear when you read them what
is in that category.

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00:55:04.236 --> 00:55:06.636
It's really clear when you read them what
is in that.

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00:55:07.316 --> 00:55:12.174
For example, they have craft paper,
all forms without plastic craft paper,

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00:55:12.174 --> 00:55:16.773
all forms with plastic molded fiber,
all without plastic molded fiber,

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all with.

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You can go down the list and you can tell
exactly.

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00:55:21.126 --> 00:55:24.475
Where things fit into their program,
Maine, however,

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00:55:24.475 --> 00:55:27.446
by by consolidating categories the way it
has.

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00:55:29.046 --> 00:55:33.246
There's some conflicting terminology that
makes it almost impossible to know.

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00:55:33.836 --> 00:55:37.864
In some cases,
how a material would be treated in the

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program for example?

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00:55:40.766 --> 00:55:45.906
Under coded paper forms,
you have bleached unpleased paperboard

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00:55:45.906 --> 00:55:50.966
box board, chip Board, container Board,
liner board and paper.

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00:55:51.246 --> 00:55:56.006
Coated with a layer of clay varnish or
Palmer barrier.

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00:55:56.046 --> 00:55:57.966
But then if you go down two categories.

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00:55:58.966 --> 00:56:03.646
You have multiple material paper forms
which all of those things I just listed.

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00:56:03.796 --> 00:56:09.389
Are multiple material form because it has
paper and something coating the paper,

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00:56:09.389 --> 00:56:14.983
but then you also list as a qualifier of
a multiple material paper form polymers

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00:56:14.983 --> 00:56:18.436
which were just listed in the readily
recyclable.

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00:56:19.166 --> 00:56:21.636
Category.
Now they're in the non recyclable

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00:56:21.636 --> 00:56:25.902
category and it's not clear what changed
between the two categories because

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00:56:25.902 --> 00:56:29.494
they're so consolidated.
I think I conceptually understand what

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00:56:29.494 --> 00:56:32.526
you're trying to say,
but from a producer standpoint.

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00:56:32.956 --> 00:56:35.916
It's not clear where it should be clear.

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00:56:32.956 --> 00:56:35.596
It's not clear where it should be.

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00:56:35.916 --> 00:56:40.429
There's several different instances where
you know the first time that I read the

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00:56:40.429 --> 00:56:43.731
read through the program.
I had classified them in one way,

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00:56:43.731 --> 00:56:46.758
but then I read through it again and I
said, well, no,

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00:56:46.758 --> 00:56:50.556
they could be classified this way.
But because of the words being D.

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00:56:50.916 --> 00:56:53.476
Like that. OK. It could go either way,
alright.

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00:56:50.916 --> 00:56:53.076
Like that. OK. It could go either way.

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00:56:53.466 --> 00:56:57.730
That great information.
And so as as much as we can,

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00:56:53.796 --> 00:56:54.676
Great information.

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00:56:57.730 --> 00:57:00.466
I would urge you guys to consider.

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00:57:01.946 --> 00:57:04.789
Stop trying to recreate what other states
are already doing,

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00:57:04.789 --> 00:57:08.146
because for from a producer standpoint,
we need consistent terminology.

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00:57:08.266 --> 00:57:11.466
Need consistent categories and we need
consistent designations.

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00:57:13.066 --> 00:57:17.034
If there are two markets in North America
targeting a material of two other states

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00:57:17.034 --> 00:57:19.186
categories,
something is readily recyclable.

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00:57:19.466 --> 00:57:21.746
Clearly, two other markets, so.

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00:57:22.146 --> 00:57:22.586
You could say.

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00:57:22.976 --> 00:57:25.804
They have a lot of work from the
department standpoint,

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00:57:25.804 --> 00:57:28.936
from looking to other states,
what they're designating right.

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00:57:29.416 --> 00:57:34.829
That is information that is great to have
when it comes to the two markets

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00:57:34.829 --> 00:57:35.696
information.

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00:57:37.146 --> 00:57:40.666
That's where we're asking for your guys
's input,

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00:57:40.666 --> 00:57:45.595
because we only have the information that
we have. Whatever you have,

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00:57:45.595 --> 00:57:51.017
whatever data you have access to to
inform the marketability criteria or the

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00:57:51.017 --> 00:57:52.426
throughput criteria.

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00:57:52.776 --> 00:57:57.176
Yeah, we we would love to to have that.

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00:57:58.546 --> 00:58:01.466
To yes for the.

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00:57:58.786 --> 00:58:01.946
I yeah, I guess to speak to this, I will.

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00:58:02.186 --> 00:58:06.719
Our idea was, well,
the way we were figuring the difference

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00:58:06.719 --> 00:58:12.461
between a multi material paper form and a
a coated paper form was the multi

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00:58:12.461 --> 00:58:17.146
material is it's laminated, it's fused.
The layers are fused.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/10828-0
00:58:18.666 --> 00:58:23.106
It's got foils in it,
so there is a difference between.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/10852-0
00:58:23.786 --> 00:58:27.852
Paper that's just coated with, you know,
clay, varnish.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/10852-1
00:58:27.852 --> 00:58:31.266
It was on our understanding that there
wasn't.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/10875-0
00:58:30.606 --> 00:58:36.120
That's how I thought you might mean it.
But because you say you list the boils

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/10875-1
00:58:36.120 --> 00:58:41.006
and then you say or polymers that doesn't
indicate oils and polymers.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/10869-0
00:58:38.166 --> 00:58:40.086
Right. So like a plastic?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/10885-0
00:58:41.166 --> 00:58:46.566
Indicates just polymers and paper,
which again, if you go up two categories.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/10883-0
00:58:45.586 --> 00:58:46.266
I see.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/10900-0
00:58:47.206 --> 00:58:49.686
Are listed as readily recyclable in a
separate category, so.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/10902-0
00:58:49.686 --> 00:58:50.766
It should have been more of like.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/10904-0
00:58:50.846 --> 00:58:52.686
And yeah, yeah. Great.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/10907-0
00:58:50.846 --> 00:58:52.686
And yeah, great.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/10909-0
00:58:52.016 --> 00:58:53.296
Yeah. Yeah, a powerful word.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/10913-0
00:58:52.886 --> 00:58:54.486
You right.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/10919-0
00:58:52.886 --> 00:58:53.166
You.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/10921-0
00:58:54.486 --> 00:58:56.566
Yeah, yeah. Nope, that.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/10923-0
00:58:56.566 --> 00:58:57.046
Makes sense?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/10928-0
00:58:57.046 --> 00:58:57.126
Do.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/10930-0
00:58:57.406 --> 00:58:58.766
You have anything else you want to add?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/10939-0
00:58:59.196 --> 00:59:00.076
Oh, I have a lot of OK.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/10945-0
00:59:00.076 --> 00:59:02.240
Well,
right through that and we'll have a

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/10945-1
00:59:02.240 --> 00:59:03.116
separate meeting.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/10951-0
00:59:03.116 --> 00:59:03.636
Just us.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/10955-0
00:59:03.636 --> 00:59:03.836
Yeah, do.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/10957-0
00:59:04.796 --> 00:59:06.196
We own a pizza. Cristo or?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/10982-0
00:59:09.166 --> 00:59:10.486
We're gonna go back and I.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/10984-0
00:59:11.006 --> 00:59:14.526
Just wanted to a hundred percent what
Christa said. Thank you.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11007-0
00:59:11.006 --> 00:59:14.326
Just wanted to a hundred percent what
Christa said. Thank.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11009-0
00:59:14.526 --> 00:59:18.629
I agree a hundred and twenty percent,
but adding on to that,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11009-1
00:59:18.629 --> 00:59:23.406
that multi material fiber category,
I too thought was a bit arbitrary.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/10995-0
00:59:20.506 --> 00:59:20.586
Uh.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11016-0
00:59:23.446 --> 00:59:24.886
Mean everything 's a multi material.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11022-0
00:59:23.446 --> 00:59:24.446
Mean everything 's a multi.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11023-0
00:59:24.886 --> 00:59:26.646
It's a cap is a different material type.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11025-0
00:59:26.806 --> 00:59:27.046
Sort of.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11027-0
00:59:26.806 --> 00:59:26.966
Sort.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11028-0
00:59:27.046 --> 00:59:27.926
Where do you draw the line?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11043-0
00:59:28.276 --> 00:59:29.276
You know, so.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11044-0
00:59:29.396 --> 00:59:33.156
And I'd like to say that aseptic cartoons
are listed there.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11066-0
00:59:33.316 --> 00:59:36.559
Aseptic cartoons are generally recycled,
handled,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11066-1
00:59:36.559 --> 00:59:41.229
managed thought of by consumers as very
similar to gabletop containers.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11066-2
00:59:41.229 --> 00:59:42.916
Those are both recyclable.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11080-0
00:59:43.686 --> 00:59:43.886
Those.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11081-0
00:59:44.126 --> 00:59:48.206
Are both recyclable in paper or as their
own PSI fifty two grade?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11087-0
00:59:49.766 --> 00:59:50.726
That that's MIS categorized there.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11097-0
00:59:51.816 --> 00:59:53.656
That's a important point.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11103-0
00:59:54.396 --> 00:59:56.596
Can I have one thing when you're talking
about throughput?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11098-0
00:59:55.666 --> 00:59:55.746
We.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11111-0
00:59:56.836 --> 00:59:57.596
Yes, there's.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11113-0
00:59:57.916 --> 00:59:59.996
More to that in the role.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11136-0
01:00:00.076 --> 01:00:04.004
It's common enough to warrant sortation
to become a target material or to not be

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11136-1
01:00:04.004 --> 01:00:05.556
considered a contaminant in the.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11139-0
01:00:06.316 --> 01:00:07.636
In a commodity, yeah.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11133-0
01:00:06.336 --> 01:00:07.216
In a commodity.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11148-0
01:00:07.216 --> 01:00:08.976
In a commodity, yes, definitely.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11176-0
01:00:09.616 --> 01:00:14.550
So when it comes to commodation,
I get back to the main home rule state.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11176-1
01:00:14.550 --> 01:00:20.025
We need transfer stations at this point
in the state of Maine are not collecting

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11176-2
01:00:20.025 --> 01:00:22.256
a septic containers as their own.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11180-0
01:00:22.986 --> 01:00:23.626
Category. But are we?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11186-0
01:00:23.626 --> 01:00:25.186
But I think first we look at.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11202-0
01:00:26.266 --> 01:00:28.066
That's the question we have for.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11204-0
01:00:28.426 --> 01:00:31.586
And so they could be listed as their own
category, but they need to be together.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11218-0
01:00:33.206 --> 01:00:36.446
The Gable top cartoons and the aseptic
cartoons.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11230-0
01:00:36.916 --> 01:00:39.131
When I look at the Ecomane and the
cassala websites,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11230-1
01:00:39.131 --> 01:00:40.636
that shows that they take them both.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11237-0
01:00:40.836 --> 01:00:42.196
I'm not sure where.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11247-0
01:00:41.556 --> 01:00:43.697
Right.
And Eco main and Casella 's both serve

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11247-1
01:00:43.697 --> 01:00:44.396
southern Maine.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11243-0
01:00:44.256 --> 01:00:44.656
And.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11264-0
01:00:44.396 --> 01:00:47.468
And my question is so in 'cause,
I know there's two bales here.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11264-1
01:00:47.468 --> 01:00:49.676
There's a mixed paper Bale grade,
fifty four.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11280-0
01:00:49.996 --> 01:00:56.836
A Poly coated carton Bale fifty two so in
the Poly coated carton Bale.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11293-0
01:00:57.566 --> 01:01:01.006
We've kind of been glazing over this term
target material.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11313-0
01:01:01.236 --> 01:01:06.209
There's a definition for that,
so a target material for molded paper for

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11313-1
01:01:06.209 --> 01:01:07.436
aseptic cartrints.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11324-0
01:01:07.596 --> 01:01:10.236
We want to know is is it going to be made
into pulp?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11339-0
01:01:07.596 --> 01:01:09.916
We want to know is is it going to be made
into?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11341-0
01:01:10.236 --> 01:01:15.431
So if aseptic cartoons are put into a
grade fifty two Bale and sold to a

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11341-1
01:01:15.431 --> 01:01:16.356
pulping mill.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11357-0
01:01:17.086 --> 01:01:21.166
Is the pulper making pulp from aseptic
cartoons? Yes.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11352-0
01:01:20.876 --> 01:01:21.876
Yes, OK.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11355-0
01:01:21.476 --> 01:01:21.876
OK.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11379-0
01:01:21.876 --> 01:01:26.137
That's very strong fiber material.
Both Gable top and aseptic cartoons far

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11379-1
01:01:26.137 --> 01:01:29.716
exceed the sixty percent by weight of
targeted fiber material.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11387-0
01:01:29.836 --> 01:01:32.916
They're made into Kimberly-Clark uses
them in Mexico.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11393-0
01:01:29.836 --> 01:01:32.436
They're made into Kimberly-Clark uses
them in.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11395-0
01:01:32.916 --> 01:01:35.036
There's several meals in the US I'm sure
you'll be.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11402-0
01:01:34.726 --> 01:01:36.966
Readily recycled back into place for hand.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11413-0
01:01:36.066 --> 01:01:41.426
And it's and then my next question is
sixty percent of that aseptic carton.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11423-0
01:01:41.426 --> 01:01:44.146
Yes, more than sixty percent. OK, OK have.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11415-0
01:01:41.536 --> 01:01:42.256
Yeah, more than.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11422-0
01:01:41.536 --> 01:01:41.696
Yeah.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11434-0
01:01:44.146 --> 01:01:50.546
You have you spoken with in state recycle
recycling facilities like Huda Maki.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11459-0
01:01:51.096 --> 01:01:56.421
To to inquire as to which paper materials
they take in that they revulb and make

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11459-1
01:01:56.421 --> 01:01:58.656
into other products there because.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11461-0
01:01:58.736 --> 01:01:59.896
That's what this process is for.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11469-0
01:02:00.426 --> 01:02:03.026
Are they here humans here?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11487-0
01:02:00.426 --> 01:02:02.386
Are they here, humans?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11488-0
01:02:03.026 --> 01:02:06.877
No, OK, but before I come,
I'm gonna we have somebody online who's

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11488-1
01:02:06.877 --> 01:02:09.866
had their hand raised and then I'll
circle back so.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11497-0
01:02:11.876 --> 01:02:14.876
Yes, the woman in the pink blouse.
What's her name?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11500-0
01:02:15.116 --> 01:02:16.476
Alicia. Alicia OK.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11506-0
01:02:19.436 --> 01:02:20.156
You're muted.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11505-0
01:02:19.536 --> 01:02:19.776
She.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11507-0
01:02:20.156 --> 01:02:20.756
Alicia muted.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11510-0
01:02:22.226 --> 01:02:23.786
Not without us.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11514-0
01:02:25.056 --> 01:02:27.216
Still not, no.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11517-0
01:02:31.828 --> 01:02:32.348
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>OK, let.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11521-0
01:02:32.388 --> 01:02:33.388
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>How about one more time?</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11530-0
01:02:33.956 --> 01:02:34.556
There we go.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11535-0
01:02:34.096 --> 01:02:35.216
Yeah, you're on.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11528-0
01:02:34.998 --> 01:02:35.718
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>Wonderful. Great.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11533-0
01:02:35.718 --> 01:02:36.638
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>Thank you so much.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11568-0
01:02:36.678 --> 01:02:41.594
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>This is Alicia Cafferty with Bsh home
appliances we manufacture where the</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11568-1
01:02:41.594 --> 01:02:46.776
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>producer of your kitchen and laundry
appliances and we sell through retailers</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11568-2
01:02:46.776 --> 01:02:48.238
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>in the state of Maine.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11572-0
01:02:48.238 --> 01:02:51.238
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>I wanted to actually.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11573-0
01:02:51.238 --> 01:02:52.118
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>I made my comments.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11593-0
01:02:52.118 --> 01:02:56.150
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>May be very similar to the other comments
that have been made,</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11593-1
01:02:56.150 --> 01:03:00.758
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>but we feel very strongly so I don't feel
guilty about maybe repeating.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11621-0
01:03:01.308 --> 01:03:06.978
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>Some of the comments you've already heard,
but a unified material list is really</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11621-1
01:03:06.978 --> 01:03:12.788
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>essential to us for producers such as us
and the fragmented material requirements.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11650-0
01:03:14.278 --> 01:03:20.076
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>Can create significant administrative and
operational burdens, packaging, design,</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11650-1
01:03:20.076 --> 01:03:25.520
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>labeling and compliance reporting become
exponentially more complex when the</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11650-2
01:03:25.520 --> 01:03:28.278
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>material acceptance list vary by state.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11680-0
01:03:28.868 --> 01:03:34.341
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>We want to really reduce friction in
getting into your program,</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11680-1
01:03:34.341 --> 01:03:38.788
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>and so anywhere that we can harmonize is
essential.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11703-0
01:03:38.788 --> 01:03:43.660
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>And so I really appreciated the comments
from the representative from Circular</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11703-1
01:03:43.660 --> 01:03:47.176
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>Action Alliance,
and I think she's in the room with you,</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11703-2
01:03:47.176 --> 01:03:48.348
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>her comments about.</v>

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01:03:49.838 --> 01:03:54.621
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>Getting harmonization with the other
states is is so important to us when I</v>

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01:03:54.621 --> 01:03:58.398
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>talk about reducing friction.
Anytime that your definition.</v>

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01:03:59.028 --> 01:04:05.053
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>Or your interpretations are different.
Mean that we have to do a specific</v>

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01:04:05.053 --> 01:04:10.428
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>mapping of our materials to your
requirements for your reporting.</v>

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01:04:10.428 --> 01:04:13.905
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>And again,
this is as more and more states take on</v>

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01:04:13.905 --> 01:04:17.110
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>EPR.
That's extremely complex for producers to</v>

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01:04:17.110 --> 01:04:19.428
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>do that on a state by state basis.</v>

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01:04:20.918 --> 01:04:23.438
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>So that's my overarching comments.</v>

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01:04:23.558 --> 01:04:27.555
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>Specifically,
I wanted to understand how you address</v>

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01:04:27.555 --> 01:04:28.158
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>pallets.</v>

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01:04:29.068 --> 01:04:33.108
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>Heavy home appliances aren't always
square.</v>

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01:04:33.108 --> 01:04:38.579
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>They require a pallet for delivery,
for forklift and so forth and so</v>

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01:04:38.579 --> 01:04:44.447
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>sometimes a reusable palette is part of
what we would consider a tertiary</v>

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01:04:44.447 --> 01:04:50.473
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>packaging and I wanted to understand how
you how you view a palette in your</v>

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01:04:50.473 --> 01:04:51.108
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>program.</v>

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01:04:53.326 --> 01:04:57.545
Yeah. So in,
in the definition of consumer retailer is

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01:04:57.545 --> 01:04:58.926
is not a consumer.

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01:04:59.406 --> 01:05:02.446
I'm. I'll just take this hypothetical.

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01:04:59.406 --> 01:05:01.486
I'm. I'll just take this.

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01:05:02.446 --> 01:05:07.292
We'll assume we're talking about
retailers receiving appliances on pallets,

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01:05:07.292 --> 01:05:08.886
so those pallets are not.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11910-0
01:05:09.046 --> 01:05:11.526
Don't meet the definition of packaging
material, however.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/11918-0
01:05:09.046 --> 01:05:11.166
Don't meet the definition of packaging
material.

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01:05:11.526 --> 01:05:14.046
It's our understanding that there's a lot
of collection.

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01:05:14.156 --> 01:05:15.596
Pallets and then recirc.

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01:05:14.156 --> 01:05:14.996
Pallets and then.

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01:05:15.596 --> 01:05:17.596
Is it reuse of the pallets?

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01:05:17.756 --> 01:05:21.276
So we we anticipate that there will be
establishment.

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01:05:21.556 --> 01:05:24.506
Well,
it would be to producers benefit to

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01:05:24.506 --> 01:05:29.914
establish an alternative collection,
collect the pallets and then have those

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01:05:29.914 --> 01:05:30.476
pallets.

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01:05:31.966 --> 01:05:37.146
To or those tons of those pallets to
offset other other producers fee

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01:05:37.146 --> 01:05:37.886
schedules.

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01:05:38.406 --> 01:05:39.046
There might be.

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01:05:38.406 --> 01:05:38.926
There might.

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01:05:39.046 --> 01:05:42.715
There are probably instances where
pallets are gonna constitute packaging

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01:05:42.715 --> 01:05:43.806
material depending on.

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01:05:44.476 --> 01:05:46.476
Who is receiving it?

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01:05:46.796 --> 01:05:49.316
So in the case of not but.

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01:05:47.248 --> 01:05:52.362
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>Right. And in some of the other states,
they are excluded from programs because</v>

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01:05:52.362 --> 01:05:54.088
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>they're reusable component.</v>

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01:05:54.568 --> 01:05:57.935
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>So if you would take that into
consideration,</v>

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01:05:57.935 --> 01:06:02.328
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>we have that in I think both Colorado and
Oregon currently.</v>

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01:06:02.328 --> 01:06:06.423
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>So maybe there's some language there that
we can look at together and and I can</v>

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01:06:06.423 --> 01:06:08.368
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>make note of in my my formal comments.</v>

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01:06:08.926 --> 01:06:09.286
OK.

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01:06:09.446 --> 01:06:15.546
So this is the the packaging material
types list is an appendix to the rule

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12091-1
01:06:15.546 --> 01:06:21.726
that has already been accepted by the
board as of December of last year, so.

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01:06:21.438 --> 01:06:21.958
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>Right.</v>

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01:06:23.406 --> 01:06:27.326
This does not change any of the language
in the rule or statute.

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01:06:27.366 --> 01:06:31.286
It just is an appendix to that.

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01:06:33.316 --> 01:06:33.716
Yep.

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01:06:34.396 --> 01:06:36.716
Can we clarify tertiary packaging a
little bit more?

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01:06:34.396 --> 01:06:36.436
Can we clarify tertiary packaging a
little bit?

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01:06:36.716 --> 01:06:40.088
Because I think, infused by this,
quite frankly,

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01:06:40.088 --> 01:06:44.836
because when I maybe I misread something,
I misunderstood something.

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01:06:44.996 --> 01:06:47.356
When I went through the comments and in
the rules.

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01:06:48.636 --> 01:06:54.335
The revised rules say packaging material
is to be considered received by the

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01:06:54.335 --> 01:06:58.036
consumer unless the producer can prove
otherwise.

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01:06:58.076 --> 01:07:01.462
And that, as I recall,
was the response given to a question

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01:07:01.462 --> 01:07:03.156
about pallets in the question.

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01:07:04.146 --> 01:07:07.083
That were published.
So I'm very confused about tertiary fact

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12203-1
01:07:07.083 --> 01:07:09.546
and please explain do do producers report
those in?

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01:07:09.746 --> 01:07:12.546
You expecting that they pay on turf fairy
packaging?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12223-0
01:07:12.586 --> 01:07:15.546
How do they know how it's made as
producers are not recyclers?

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01:07:15.986 --> 01:07:16.426
So.

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01:07:16.466 --> 01:07:20.259
Right. Yeah.
If they're not aware of the pallets being

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01:07:20.259 --> 01:07:22.466
reused, then they would have to.

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01:07:23.236 --> 01:07:25.716
If they're not aware of,
the pallets are being.

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01:07:27.276 --> 01:07:27.596
Sent to consumers.

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01:07:28.536 --> 01:07:33.436
Yeah, are being received by a consumer,
then they would have to assume that its

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01:07:33.436 --> 01:07:37.111
packaging material.
But I think for the instance of pallets

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12294-2
01:07:37.111 --> 01:07:42.073
going to a retailer that there would be
accounting for the fact that the pallets

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01:07:42.073 --> 01:07:44.646
are are are stopping at at the at the RET.

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01:07:44.776 --> 01:07:49.216
And therefore they would have as long as
they can show proof of that if.

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01:07:49.516 --> 01:07:51.036
Were inquiry about that.

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01:07:52.566 --> 01:07:54.886
Then they're they're validated.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12326-0
01:07:53.686 --> 01:07:56.086
So do they need to report that in or not?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12336-0
01:07:56.366 --> 01:07:59.606
Do they need to pay in and report in on
those ballots or not?

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01:07:59.646 --> 01:08:03.326
Mean pallets never go to a well.
That's no no.

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01:08:03.486 --> 01:08:05.126
Sometimes they do go to.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12356-0
01:08:03.756 --> 01:08:04.236
You're saying?

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01:08:04.236 --> 01:08:08.156
You're saying a consumer can be a
business, so I don't.

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01:08:08.276 --> 01:08:08.996
I don't understand.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12381-0
01:08:08.276 --> 01:08:08.516
I don't.

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01:08:08.996 --> 01:08:10.916
I think there's it's just a lot of
confusion.

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01:08:08.996 --> 01:08:10.436
I think there's it's just a lot of.

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01:08:10.916 --> 01:08:14.140
I think it's a huge Gray area and I think
This is why some would like to see this

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01:08:14.140 --> 01:08:16.578
be residential only,
at least to start until you can work out

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12408-2
01:08:16.578 --> 01:08:17.876
these bugs, I think they're bugs.

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01:08:18.606 --> 01:08:18.806
OK.

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01:08:18.806 --> 01:08:19.246
Very confusing.

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01:08:20.566 --> 01:08:22.246
Can you that explain more what you're
envisioning?

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01:08:20.886 --> 01:08:21.206
Good feedback.

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01:08:22.646 --> 01:08:23.366
It would be helpful.

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01:08:23.486 --> 01:08:24.046
Yeah. Yeah, no.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12427-0
01:08:24.046 --> 01:08:25.046
I can try again.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12433-0
01:08:24.046 --> 01:08:24.526
I can try.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12434-0
01:08:25.046 --> 01:08:26.126
Let me try it again.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12452-0
01:08:26.166 --> 01:08:30.804
So packaging material is defined in
statute as being any material that

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01:08:30.804 --> 01:08:34.658
contains, distributes,
delivers or presents a product to a

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12452-2
01:08:34.658 --> 01:08:35.246
consumer.

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01:08:35.996 --> 01:08:41.146
And a consumer has been defined in Rule
and the consumer does not include a

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12471-1
01:08:41.146 --> 01:08:41.756
retailer.

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01:08:41.956 --> 01:08:47.430
So in the instance that pallet is being
received by a retailer,

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01:08:47.430 --> 01:08:49.996
that pallet does not meet the.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12501-0
01:08:50.386 --> 01:08:53.826
Definition of packaging material if the
producer.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12548-0
01:08:55.596 --> 01:09:00.391
Is knows that the pallet is being
received by a non consumer and they know

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12548-1
01:09:00.391 --> 01:09:05.315
that that's not packaging material then
that's not to be reported on to the.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12548-2
01:09:05.315 --> 01:09:10.302
So in the instance where the producer is
not clear where the pallet is going,

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01:09:10.302 --> 01:09:12.796
they are assuming it's packaging mater.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12558-0
01:09:13.276 --> 01:09:15.676
And they are reporting on the pallet.

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01:09:16.026 --> 01:09:20.334
To the Esso and in the instance where
they are reporting that palladus

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01:09:20.334 --> 01:09:24.096
packaging material,
they have the opportunity to establish an

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12606-2
01:09:24.096 --> 01:09:28.465
alternative collection program account
for the tons of palette material

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12606-3
01:09:28.465 --> 01:09:32.409
collected and recycled,
and then allow their fees to be adjusted

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01:09:32.409 --> 01:09:33.866
based on those tonnages.

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01:09:34.596 --> 01:09:40.647
And if the if the packaging material is
going to a retailer that's using that,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12629-1
01:09:40.647 --> 01:09:46.316
the product that the packaging material
is holding to make a new product?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12631-0
01:09:46.626 --> 01:09:46.746
But.

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01:09:47.626 --> 01:09:50.746
Then they are the consumer of that
product.

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01:09:52.226 --> 01:09:58.344
From a brand of water and I'm selling my
water to supermarket and that supermarket

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01:09:52.436 --> 01:09:52.516
So.

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01:09:58.344 --> 01:10:03.946
is recycling tertiary packaging in back
of house shrink wrap OCC, whatever.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12678-0
01:10:05.406 --> 01:10:09.166
That supermarket can start an alternative
collection program.

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01:10:10.846 --> 01:10:14.486
And but but as I won't know what he's
recycling of mine.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12711-0
01:10:14.996 --> 01:10:19.866
Alternative collection programs are a
producer or group of producer run and

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12711-1
01:10:19.866 --> 01:10:20.956
they are applied.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12742-0
01:10:21.396 --> 01:10:24.076
They there's an app,
there will be an application process to.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12744-0
01:10:24.076 --> 01:10:27.359
Establish this,
but I guess what she's saying is as a

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12744-1
01:10:27.359 --> 01:10:30.400
producer,
she's unclear of the tonnage of pallets

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12744-2
01:10:30.400 --> 01:10:33.076
that are being recycled at the
supermarket.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12749-0
01:10:33.076 --> 01:10:35.716
Exactly,
producers are not in a recycling business.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12787-0
01:10:36.086 --> 01:10:38.919
Right.
And we understand that this this has been

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12787-1
01:10:38.919 --> 01:10:43.775
a comment that has come up and we have we
have provided comment on that comment and

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12787-2
01:10:43.775 --> 01:10:48.342
it it was the comment that we provided
was that producers would need to become

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12775-0
01:10:44.376 --> 01:10:44.456
Up.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12787-3
01:10:48.342 --> 01:10:49.846
Privy of that information.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12796-0
01:10:49.926 --> 01:10:54.046
I know producers are the ones sending the
packaging into the state so.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12812-0
01:10:54.526 --> 01:10:57.237
But I mean they are currently getting
recycled,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12812-1
01:10:57.237 --> 01:11:00.966
but they're getting pinged for not
knowing that is is really the.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12814-0
01:11:00.586 --> 01:11:01.226
Is that?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12839-0
01:11:02.526 --> 01:11:06.725
They're getting not to know,
but then they're provided the opportunity

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12839-1
01:11:06.725 --> 01:11:11.456
to know and then adjust their fees and
that's where we're just trying to create

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12839-2
01:11:11.456 --> 01:11:12.166
that circle.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12851-0
01:11:12.236 --> 01:11:16.636
Otherwise it is just, you know,
a straight line to a black hole.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12877-0
01:11:12.236 --> 01:11:16.276
Otherwise it is just, you know,
a straight line to a black.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12878-0
01:11:16.636 --> 01:11:21.913
We don't know if it was or if it wasn't,
so this program is asking that you know

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12878-1
01:11:21.913 --> 01:11:26.994
there's data on if it is and and allowing
for adjustments of fees when that's

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12878-2
01:11:26.994 --> 01:11:27.516
figured.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12883-0
01:11:29.586 --> 01:11:30.306
But yes.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12890-0
01:11:32.006 --> 01:11:34.126
Yeah, we know your concerns.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12903-0
01:11:37.246 --> 01:11:40.046
I think what got houdimaki online and
then we'll circle back up.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12912-0
01:11:44.728 --> 01:11:45.448
<v Tom Hendrickson>For most of you.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12915-0
01:11:44.756 --> 01:11:46.356
Oh no, it's sorry.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12918-0
01:11:46.436 --> 01:11:47.876
Oh, that's his last name, yeah.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12931-0
01:11:49.806 --> 01:11:52.126
Tom sent good morning.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12928-0
01:11:50.488 --> 01:11:53.448
<v Tom Hendrickson>Morning. Hello. Good morning.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12937-0
01:11:53.528 --> 01:11:55.008
<v Tom Hendrickson>My name is Tom Hendrickson.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12940-0
01:11:53.606 --> 01:11:53.686
Hi.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12955-0
01:11:55.048 --> 01:12:00.128
<v Tom Hendrickson>I'm the industry affairs manager for the
international molded Fiber Association.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12958-0
01:12:00.128 --> 01:12:00.528
<v Tom Hendrickson>I am FA.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12976-0
01:12:01.408 --> 01:12:06.162
<v Tom Hendrickson>We are the only global not-for-profit
trade association representing the</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12976-1
01:12:06.162 --> 01:12:08.768
<v Tom Hendrickson>interests of molded fiber manufacturers.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12989-0
01:12:08.808 --> 01:12:11.776
<v Tom Hendrickson>I know we have one member in Maine,
Lacayson Weston,</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/12989-1
01:12:11.776 --> 01:12:13.848
<v Tom Hendrickson>who I believe I heard is there today.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13003-0
01:12:15.158 --> 01:12:17.637
<v Tom Hendrickson>But anyways,
I'm here because we have reviewed the</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13003-1
01:12:17.637 --> 01:12:18.318
<v Tom Hendrickson>initial draft.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13037-0
01:12:18.788 --> 01:12:24.143
<v Tom Hendrickson>After the packaging material types list
and we're requesting review of Dep's</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13037-1
01:12:24.143 --> 01:12:29.359
<v Tom Hendrickson>decision to list all forms of molded pulp
paper as not readily recyclable,</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13037-2
01:12:29.359 --> 01:12:31.028
<v Tom Hendrickson>reusable or compostable.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13060-0
01:12:31.228 --> 01:12:34.743
<v Tom Hendrickson>It's unclear to us how DEP reach that
determination,</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13060-1
01:12:34.743 --> 01:12:39.783
<v Tom Hendrickson>and we believe it's an accurate molded
fiber is made entirely from recycled</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13053-0
01:12:37.666 --> 01:12:37.786
Yes.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13060-2
01:12:39.783 --> 01:12:41.308
<v Tom Hendrickson>paper fibers and water.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13073-0
01:12:41.308 --> 01:12:45.148
<v Tom Hendrickson>It's 100% recyclable, biodegradable,
and compostable.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13078-0
01:12:45.188 --> 01:12:48.148
<v Tom Hendrickson>It does not contain any intentionally
added toxic.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13101-0
01:12:48.308 --> 01:12:53.433
<v Tom Hendrickson>Or hazardous materials that would prevent
it from safely re entering the recycling</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13101-1
01:12:53.433 --> 01:12:57.508
<v Tom Hendrickson>stream being composted or biodegrading
back into the environment.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13126-0
01:12:57.508 --> 01:13:01.479
<v Tom Hendrickson>So we strongly encourage DEP to review
and adjust its determination regarding</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13126-1
01:13:01.479 --> 01:13:04.788
<v Tom Hendrickson>the recyclability and compostability of
molded fiber. Thank you.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13140-0
01:13:05.426 --> 01:13:06.346
Great. Thank you.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13142-0
01:13:06.746 --> 01:13:08.866
We this is informal.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13137-0
01:13:07.766 --> 01:13:08.246
Yes.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13147-0
01:13:08.906 --> 01:13:10.586
So this is not our final draft.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13156-0
01:13:10.746 --> 01:13:11.586
Not going to the board.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13184-0
01:13:10.746 --> 01:13:11.306
Not going to the.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13186-0
01:13:11.586 --> 01:13:15.626
We are accepting comments like that to
make these changes before.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13187-0
01:13:15.666 --> 01:13:19.649
We go and and let me just recap on the
comments so far because we've talked a

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13169-0
01:13:15.726 --> 01:13:16.966
Yeah. So on the board.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13187-1
01:13:19.649 --> 01:13:22.866
lot about molded paper forms and thank
you. It's been helpful.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13189-0
01:13:22.866 --> 01:13:23.546
I just.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13192-0
01:13:23.626 --> 01:13:24.946
I just want to.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13203-0
01:13:25.846 --> 01:13:29.286
Maybe just outline some of the takeaways
to make sure that we're clear.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13212-0
01:13:30.886 --> 01:13:34.006
Molded paper is is being sent to market.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13235-0
01:13:34.676 --> 01:13:40.258
To recycling markets through mixed paper
bales and molded paper is from the

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13235-1
01:13:40.258 --> 01:13:42.756
information that's being provided.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13246-0
01:13:43.036 --> 01:13:46.036
Paper is a target material in those mixed
paper Bales.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13249-0
01:13:46.516 --> 01:13:48.676
It is being used to make pulp.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13270-0
01:13:49.846 --> 01:13:53.772
If there's, if we have that inaccurate,
please let.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13270-1
01:13:53.772 --> 01:13:57.246
If there's another side of that,
let us know.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13276-0
01:13:58.406 --> 01:13:59.926
I think that's that's really.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13313-0
01:14:00.576 --> 01:14:03.863
I would argue that it's not being
targeted,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13284-0
01:14:01.766 --> 01:14:01.926
Yeah.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13313-1
01:14:03.863 --> 01:14:09.466
it's not being discriminated against.
It is included in the mixed recycled

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13313-2
01:14:09.466 --> 01:14:13.576
bills as it would be paper because it is
paper and so.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13329-0
01:14:12.976 --> 01:14:14.955
Yeah.
And so we're getting that we want to put

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13329-1
01:14:14.955 --> 01:14:16.976
it in front,
take it out from its own packaging

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13329-2
01:14:16.976 --> 01:14:18.576
material type and put it into another.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13333-0
01:14:19.256 --> 01:14:20.136
Is that what you're saying?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13361-0
01:14:19.776 --> 01:14:24.688
I'm I'm not specifically stating that
what I'm stating is that to classify it

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13343-0
01:14:22.446 --> 01:14:23.126
OK.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13361-1
01:14:24.688 --> 01:14:29.096
differently than you are classifying
paper is an incorrect statement.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13369-0
01:14:29.166 --> 01:14:29.526
OK.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13377-0
01:14:29.526 --> 01:14:31.806
Yes, we've been given thoughts.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13373-0
01:14:30.858 --> 01:14:31.498
<v Tom Hendrickson>Yeah, I would.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13390-0
01:14:31.538 --> 01:14:35.381
<v Tom Hendrickson>I would say if I could jump in again,
I I don't think our request is</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13390-1
01:14:35.381 --> 01:14:38.778
<v Tom Hendrickson>necessarily to include it in a category
with something else.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13423-0
01:14:38.778 --> 01:14:42.545
<v Tom Hendrickson>I think it's just to review the
determination that it's not recyclable.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13423-1
01:14:42.545 --> 01:14:45.840
<v Tom Hendrickson>I don't think we have an issue with it
being its own category,</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13412-0
01:14:43.246 --> 01:14:43.526
OK.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13423-2
01:14:45.840 --> 01:14:48.718
<v Tom Hendrickson>but it just it needs to be looked at
again. Thank you.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13425-0
01:14:45.866 --> 01:14:46.026
OK.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13448-0
01:14:49.306 --> 01:14:53.709
And just real real quick,
the other lists I know Oregon has molded

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13448-1
01:14:53.709 --> 01:14:57.586
paper fiber as a packaging material type,
is that correct?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13450-0
01:14:57.626 --> 01:14:58.666
California.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13465-0
01:15:00.326 --> 01:15:02.766
Absolutely. Packaging molded fiber,
food service packaging.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13467-0
01:15:02.766 --> 01:15:03.686
OK, for food.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13478-0
01:15:03.686 --> 01:15:04.726
Contact they have.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13469-0
01:15:04.416 --> 01:15:04.616
No.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13480-0
01:15:04.726 --> 01:15:06.766
A bunch of different ones,
but one of them.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13490-0
01:15:08.566 --> 01:15:11.469
Pulled out food service because in in
Oregon it's compostable but not

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13490-1
01:15:11.469 --> 01:15:11.926
recyclable.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13495-0
01:15:12.126 --> 01:15:13.326
Also is debatable.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13497-0
01:15:13.406 --> 01:15:13.966
I just.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13512-0
01:15:14.286 --> 01:15:15.766
I would argue for the.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13514-0
01:15:17.206 --> 01:15:17.246
I.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13516-0
01:15:17.246 --> 01:15:19.366
Don't know what the consequences are
about putting.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13547-0
01:15:19.796 --> 01:15:22.309
In with paper,
I just think the way you gathered it,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13547-1
01:15:22.309 --> 01:15:26.245
I'm confused about the process like part
of me just wants to encourage you guys to

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13547-2
01:15:26.245 --> 01:15:28.996
pick up the phone and call your
colleagues in California.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13566-0
01:15:29.276 --> 01:15:30.156
It seems like a lot of.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13568-0
01:15:30.156 --> 01:15:30.636
This work has.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13570-0
01:15:30.636 --> 01:15:35.116
Been done and you're asking us to provide
technical information, but we don't.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13585-0
01:15:36.046 --> 01:15:40.046
Know some of the technical information
you provided me about why you determined

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13585-1
01:15:40.046 --> 01:15:41.846
that molded fiber wasn't recyclable.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13590-0
01:15:41.886 --> 01:15:43.406
I don't know how you got that information.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13594-0
01:15:43.486 --> 01:15:44.286
Was outdated.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13599-0
01:15:43.486 --> 01:15:43.646
Was.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13601-0
01:15:44.286 --> 01:15:45.406
It wasn't in context.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13612-0
01:15:44.286 --> 01:15:44.726
It wasn't in.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13614-0
01:15:45.406 --> 01:15:49.406
It it just kinda so we don't really know
what we're arguing for or against.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13652-0
01:15:49.556 --> 01:15:54.492
So that's a little bit of something
that's hard to figure out how to engage

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13652-1
01:15:54.492 --> 01:15:58.064
with that. OK,
I would say molded fiber is seen as one

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13652-2
01:15:58.064 --> 01:16:01.636
of the best replacements for rigid single
use plastic.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13660-0
01:16:01.916 --> 01:16:04.196
It is a material that was.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13670-0
01:16:04.886 --> 01:16:06.446
The process was invented in Maine.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13683-0
01:16:06.486 --> 01:16:09.926
We formally were the center of Innovation
for Maine.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13680-0
01:16:09.916 --> 01:16:10.196
All.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13693-0
01:16:10.046 --> 01:16:12.926
All the molded fiber you see in the world,
it started here.

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01:16:13.126 --> 01:16:14.286
Technology started.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13706-0
01:16:13.126 --> 01:16:13.846
Technology.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13708-0
01:16:14.286 --> 01:16:18.566
Here we are trying the state of Maine
other departments in the state government.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13737-0
01:16:19.196 --> 01:16:25.433
Are trying very hard to bring back molded
fiber and other forest based products as

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13737-1
01:16:25.433 --> 01:16:29.716
a innovation hub.
They have a tech hub innovation grant.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13745-0
01:16:30.036 --> 01:16:33.356
Fiber is one of the big pillars of that.
Twenty two million dollar federal.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13782-0
01:16:34.046 --> 01:16:36.884
Award.
So I believe it should be in its own

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13782-1
01:16:36.884 --> 01:16:40.819
category because it's going to be paper
is its own category,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13782-2
01:16:40.819 --> 01:16:46.043
but molded fiber itself I think needs to
be just recognized that recyclers treat

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13782-3
01:16:46.043 --> 01:16:48.366
it like mixed paper and that's fine.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13794-0
01:16:49.036 --> 01:16:51.561
Right,
so you don't need to make its own

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13791-0
01:16:49.436 --> 01:16:49.916
Yeah.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13794-1
01:16:51.561 --> 01:16:52.116
category.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13805-0
01:16:52.236 --> 01:16:56.476
Just need to scientifically and
accurately classify it, right?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13821-0
01:16:56.796 --> 01:16:57.756
It's so easy to do.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13823-0
01:16:57.796 --> 01:16:58.436
OK, so our.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13811-0
01:16:58.246 --> 01:16:58.926
Like.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13825-0
01:16:58.476 --> 01:17:03.476
Question that is in the the QR code.

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01:17:03.576 --> 01:17:04.616
Which I'll bring back up.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13844-0
01:17:06.676 --> 01:17:08.276
Maybe I'll bring it back up here.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13836-0
01:17:06.766 --> 01:17:06.966
Maybe.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13863-0
01:17:09.586 --> 01:17:15.502
We do have a question in there about the
reason why we were concerned of it not

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13863-1
01:17:15.502 --> 01:17:18.386
being readily but not being recyclable.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13887-0
01:17:19.926 --> 01:17:23.046
Or constituting contamination was because
of wet strength resins.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13910-0
01:17:23.086 --> 01:17:26.176
We're not sure how that works in the the
process,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13910-1
01:17:26.176 --> 01:17:30.625
so that was why we had it like this is
because we wanted to create this

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13910-2
01:17:30.625 --> 01:17:35.446
conversation and have a a place to talk
about that with with remanufacturers.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13903-0
01:17:32.976 --> 01:17:33.936
That's what.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13935-0
01:17:36.366 --> 01:17:39.486
For whether or not that is a is
problematic.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13937-0
01:17:39.956 --> 01:17:40.676
For you.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13932-0
01:17:40.546 --> 01:17:44.746
So that's one of the things that you got
very inaccurate that caused concern.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13944-0
01:17:45.226 --> 01:17:47.546
If you wanna speak to the other.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13965-0
01:17:46.156 --> 01:17:48.532
Sure.
So wet strength added to what strength

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13965-1
01:17:48.532 --> 01:17:51.596
resins are commonly and most commonly
used in linerboard.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13962-0
01:17:51.856 --> 01:17:52.136
OK.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13969-0
01:17:52.156 --> 01:17:53.716
Are your six pack containers.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13978-0
01:17:52.156 --> 01:17:53.116
Are your six pack?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13979-0
01:17:53.716 --> 01:17:56.076
Your thirty pack containers readily
recycled.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13990-0
01:17:56.596 --> 01:17:59.574
Greatly,
they're not used in molded fiber as

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13990-1
01:17:59.574 --> 01:18:00.236
producers.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/13993-0
01:18:00.276 --> 01:18:01.476
That's yeah.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14015-0
01:18:00.666 --> 01:18:03.806
Great to know.
And that's that was a data gap that we

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14015-1
01:18:03.806 --> 01:18:07.586
knew we had coming into this and where we
needed to to get that.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14030-0
01:18:07.276 --> 01:18:13.581
But also when you say it's recyclable and
then you turn to you know I think you

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14030-1
01:18:13.581 --> 01:18:15.236
turn to Bob Capadona.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14046-0
01:18:14.476 --> 01:18:19.006
Well, I suppose Casella Eco main,
but it's also I mean I know that it's

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14044-0
01:18:17.556 --> 01:18:18.116
Yeah.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14046-1
01:18:19.006 --> 01:18:20.516
going into molded fiber.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14062-0
01:18:20.626 --> 01:18:24.226
Streams to be recycled, yeah.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14060-0
01:18:22.246 --> 01:18:23.926
It's going in the mixed paper.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14065-0
01:18:23.926 --> 01:18:25.726
What are we arguing about?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14078-0
01:18:25.706 --> 01:18:29.946
Yeah, Saturday, the twenty fourth.
And what are you doing now?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14094-0
01:18:27.246 --> 01:18:29.766
If it's a target material,
if it's something that.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14081-0
01:18:30.186 --> 01:18:32.226
Yeah. No, that's what happened.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14095-0
01:18:30.726 --> 01:18:31.926
We can move on, move on.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14088-0
01:18:32.466 --> 01:18:33.906
What happened from Oldenburg?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14096-0
01:18:32.806 --> 01:18:33.366
From all the.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14113-0
01:18:34.046 --> 01:18:35.406
No. Yeah, I'll just wrap it.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14097-0
01:18:34.046 --> 01:18:35.646
No. Yeah, I'll just wrap it up.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14114-0
01:18:35.646 --> 01:18:39.636
So the reason why we're we're going with
that is because it doesn't just

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14114-1
01:18:39.636 --> 01:18:42.206
constitute recycling.
If it's being collected.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14138-0
01:18:43.086 --> 01:18:45.504
Right.
We want to know if it it constitutes

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14122-0
01:18:44.676 --> 01:18:45.516
So how do?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14138-1
01:18:45.504 --> 01:18:48.966
recycling. If it is a target material.
So if the molded paper.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14149-0
01:18:49.426 --> 01:18:53.708
As a mixed as mixed paper is,
Nick 's paper targeted as being a good

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14140-0
01:18:49.526 --> 01:18:50.966
Is used else.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14149-1
01:18:53.708 --> 01:18:54.826
recycled material.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14163-0
01:18:55.026 --> 01:18:56.546
So mixed paper is.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14165-0
01:18:55.026 --> 01:18:55.946
So mixed paper.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14167-0
01:18:56.546 --> 01:18:59.226
Is not a packaging material type, right?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14180-0
01:18:59.506 --> 01:19:02.146
You're asking in this survey from brokers.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14195-0
01:18:59.506 --> 01:19:01.466
You're asking in this survey from.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14170-0
01:19:00.226 --> 01:19:01.346
It's a pail.

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01:19:02.146 --> 01:19:06.036
You're asking is mixed paper,
something that is that we want and does

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14196-1
01:19:06.036 --> 01:19:07.426
it have secondary market?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14193-0
01:19:07.446 --> 01:19:07.966
No, we're.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14208-0
01:19:07.466 --> 01:19:10.532
No,
we're asking if molded paper is something

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14230-0
01:19:10.396 --> 01:19:15.278
But it wasn't in your survey,
specified as molded paper you had OCC and

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14208-1
01:19:10.532 --> 01:19:10.866
that.

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01:19:15.278 --> 01:19:17.516
and paper in your survey and you.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14224-0
01:19:16.586 --> 01:19:17.186
Survey.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14245-0
01:19:17.516 --> 01:19:18.796
So that's because.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14247-0
01:19:18.796 --> 01:19:19.276
It.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14249-0
01:19:19.316 --> 01:19:20.916
Is separated by.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14254-0
01:19:22.556 --> 01:19:23.596
What you chose?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14260-0
01:19:23.636 --> 01:19:26.535
So if you said you were a municipality,
you get some questions.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14260-1
01:19:26.535 --> 01:19:28.076
If you said you're a processor or.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14274-0
01:19:29.756 --> 01:19:32.476
Broker.
You get specific questions for that.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14284-0
01:19:33.276 --> 01:19:33.596
I think.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14286-0
01:19:33.596 --> 01:19:35.676
This goes back to Andy 's original
comment.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14292-0
01:19:35.756 --> 01:19:38.196
You know that we don't have that
information.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14306-0
01:19:38.746 --> 01:19:40.426
You're saying that that's.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14308-0
01:19:40.626 --> 01:19:44.746
So are you reprocessing your facilities
reprocessing paper bills?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14310-0
01:19:44.766 --> 01:19:45.586
That what you're saying?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14325-0
01:19:46.176 --> 01:19:48.496
My facility is making equipment for
molded Viagra.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14327-0
01:19:48.556 --> 01:19:48.756
OK.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14366-0
01:19:48.756 --> 01:19:53.367
So then we're asking the people that are
reprocessing those bales,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14366-1
01:19:53.367 --> 01:19:57.703
when they are doing that,
are they putting all of that through

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14366-2
01:19:57.703 --> 01:20:03.278
their equipment or are they pulling out
some of it and it's going somewhere else

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14366-3
01:20:03.278 --> 01:20:05.756
because it might damage the process?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14389-0
01:20:06.486 --> 01:20:10.412
So I appreciate your comments,
but that question would be for somebody

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14389-1
01:20:10.412 --> 01:20:12.126
who is reprocessing the papers.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14403-0
01:20:11.946 --> 01:20:14.624
Understood.
But then you're using that information

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14403-1
01:20:14.624 --> 01:20:17.986
that you're taking in to create these
classifications, correct?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14405-0
01:20:18.286 --> 01:20:19.486
To create those.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14414-0
01:20:18.346 --> 01:20:22.706
To create these are proposed designations.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14411-0
01:20:19.246 --> 01:20:19.486
Those.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14428-0
01:20:24.156 --> 01:20:29.196
And we are using that information to
answer the questions that we had listed.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14438-0
01:20:32.556 --> 01:20:33.356
In the room.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14455-0
01:20:32.556 --> 01:20:33.116
In the.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14436-0
01:20:32.836 --> 01:20:33.036
Yes.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14456-0
01:20:33.356 --> 01:20:35.755
I know that that's the where you got the
information from.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14456-1
01:20:35.755 --> 01:20:38.236
Would you like to give them the
opportunity to clarify that?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14463-0
01:20:38.536 --> 01:20:40.936
We can we also have comment from.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14469-0
01:20:43.326 --> 01:20:44.646
Yeah. Was there a hand up in that area?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14495-0
01:20:45.286 --> 01:20:46.046
Go ahead. OK up.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14473-0
01:20:45.996 --> 01:20:46.276
But I.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14497-0
01:20:46.126 --> 01:20:50.879
All day but recovery.
What I'm gonna do for this molded fiber,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14497-1
01:20:50.879 --> 01:20:52.766
I'm gonna make it simple.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14514-0
01:20:52.806 --> 01:20:57.705
I'm going to add it to my comments so
they should be put in with other papers

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14514-1
01:20:57.705 --> 01:21:00.846
unless it's sprayed with pet or some
other nasty.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14524-0
01:21:01.606 --> 01:21:04.446
Barrier that would preclude it.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14533-0
01:21:01.606 --> 01:21:03.726
Barrier that would preclude.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14534-0
01:21:04.446 --> 01:21:07.926
I had a quick question for Bob because I
didn't recognize him before.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14558-0
01:21:08.396 --> 01:21:14.509
Cappadonna we saw material to Casella.
If I fill my bales with milk cartons,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14558-1
01:21:14.509 --> 01:21:18.876
Tyson boxes and all that,
is there gonna be a problem?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14576-0
01:21:19.716 --> 01:21:22.945
Right now they tell us to keep it out the
best we can,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14593-0
01:21:19.716 --> 01:21:22.962
Right now they tell us to keep it out the
best we can,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14576-1
01:21:22.945 --> 01:21:26.116
but we're asking people start looking for
this stuff.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14593-1
01:21:22.962 --> 01:21:25.796
but we're asking people start looking for
this.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14594-0
01:21:26.116 --> 01:21:31.163
Put it all together and if he's OK with
it and there's markets, so we can do it,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14594-1
01:21:31.163 --> 01:21:32.596
I guess I'm OK with it.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14609-0
01:21:34.116 --> 01:21:37.636
And there's a limited market that we have
to go past the Mississippi to get to.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14618-0
01:21:34.116 --> 01:21:37.556
And there's a limited market that we have
to go past the Mississippi to get.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14620-0
01:21:37.636 --> 01:21:39.330
Someone 's gonna have to pay the bill.
'cause.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14620-1
01:21:39.330 --> 01:21:40.916
That's gonna increase a lot of our
freight.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14622-0
01:21:41.596 --> 01:21:42.356
What do you think, Bob?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14634-0
01:21:44.166 --> 01:21:47.806
Which looks we have never had a bail
rejected for.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14636-0
01:21:48.286 --> 01:21:49.166
This type of product.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14639-0
01:21:48.556 --> 01:21:49.196
Hi, Robert.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14642-0
01:21:49.166 --> 01:21:50.486
Right, that's the past.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14651-0
01:21:50.526 --> 01:21:52.926
Now we're telling people start doing this.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14660-0
01:21:53.166 --> 01:21:56.467
I've let everybody bump Bangor.
That probably doesn't recycle mix paper

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14660-1
01:21:56.467 --> 01:21:56.926
right now.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14665-0
01:21:57.446 --> 01:21:58.686
Gonna start doing it if this works.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14668-0
01:21:59.036 --> 01:21:59.956
Not the acceptable.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14671-0
01:21:59.036 --> 01:21:59.476
Not the.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14673-0
01:21:59.396 --> 01:22:00.676
Fine it acceptable list in May.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14682-0
01:22:02.396 --> 01:22:03.036
In Casella.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14688-0
01:22:03.116 --> 01:22:05.396
So that's another thing that we need to
consider.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14693-0
01:22:05.476 --> 01:22:08.196
Each municipality has their own
acceptable list.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14695-0
01:22:08.676 --> 01:22:09.676
Yes, right.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14703-0
01:22:09.986 --> 01:22:13.106
Is it something that is being accepted
though in?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14719-0
01:22:16.106 --> 01:22:19.626
Windsor,
Maine is it something that's being

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14728-0
01:22:16.106 --> 01:22:19.626
Windsor,
Maine is it something that's being?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14719-1
01:22:19.626 --> 01:22:20.346
accepted?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14730-0
01:22:20.346 --> 01:22:23.586
In else I don't know who else has a
transfer station but.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14733-0
01:22:24.116 --> 01:22:25.596
I represent a municipality.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14746-0
01:22:25.596 --> 01:22:32.766
Municipalities get their acceptable list
from wherever the material is going from

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14746-1
01:22:32.766 --> 01:22:33.116
you.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14750-0
01:22:32.806 --> 01:22:35.926
If they're being, yeah,
if they're being contracted.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14752-0
01:22:35.276 --> 01:22:37.156
Right now my municipality.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14756-0
01:22:38.676 --> 01:22:38.996
Does not.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14766-0
01:22:40.516 --> 01:22:43.916
Accept you know multi laminate packaging.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14774-0
01:22:44.426 --> 01:22:47.586
And do you guys have a translation
station or yes.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14781-0
01:22:45.756 --> 01:22:49.636
Let's make it clear to put it on our list.
If it can go in our mixed paper, OK.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14786-0
01:22:49.916 --> 01:22:51.716
And that's our question is, does it?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14793-0
01:22:50.926 --> 01:22:54.286
But we get that information from these
guys, right?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14796-0
01:22:54.406 --> 01:22:54.886
And.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14798-0
01:22:54.926 --> 01:22:55.806
But that's guys.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14803-0
01:22:55.806 --> 01:22:56.526
That's a they know.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14815-0
01:22:56.526 --> 01:23:01.197
They know they're the ones that should
know whether it's actually getting

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14815-1
01:23:01.197 --> 01:23:01.766
recycled.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14837-0
01:23:01.636 --> 01:23:04.068
Exactly.
That's the that's the data gap that we

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14823-0
01:23:01.766 --> 01:23:02.166
It's not.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14837-1
01:23:04.068 --> 01:23:06.196
need to kind of all come together to fill.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14844-0
01:23:05.166 --> 01:23:07.366
And just real quick,
that's a good point to bring up.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14858-0
01:23:05.166 --> 01:23:07.246
And just real quick,
that's a good point to bring.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14860-0
01:23:07.366 --> 01:23:11.798
This is not yet like universally being
done, but when molded paper,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14860-1
01:23:11.798 --> 01:23:14.406
if it were to become readily recyclable.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14862-0
01:23:14.526 --> 01:23:15.246
Now we can't.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14877-0
01:23:14.526 --> 01:23:14.966
Now we.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14878-0
01:23:15.246 --> 01:23:20.886
We're expecting all that stream of molded
paper to go into the mixed paper Bales.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14887-0
01:23:21.796 --> 01:23:24.596
Is that going to have it exceed a certain
threshold?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14894-0
01:23:26.156 --> 01:23:27.556
And now it's a problem.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14901-0
01:23:27.756 --> 01:23:30.847
You know,
we want to keep those questions in mind

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14901-1
01:23:30.847 --> 01:23:31.836
too. Yes, Susan.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14922-0
01:23:32.556 --> 01:23:36.233
In this discussion,
what's a little bit circular to me is

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14922-1
01:23:36.233 --> 01:23:40.925
bringing up the fact that, well,
the municipalities up north don't accept

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14922-2
01:23:40.925 --> 01:23:41.116
it.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14948-0
01:23:41.156 --> 01:23:46.089
None of those criteria, say municipality,
they'll accept it through all goes back

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14943-0
01:23:45.266 --> 01:23:45.706
Put.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14948-1
01:23:46.089 --> 01:23:48.796
to the throughput at the March,
so it there.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14952-0
01:23:48.236 --> 01:23:49.356
It's not at the Murph, though.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14950-0
01:23:49.316 --> 01:23:49.356
May.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14958-0
01:23:49.596 --> 01:23:50.916
Throughput is.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14969-0
01:23:52.796 --> 01:23:56.510
For it's across the state because Murph
's don't serve every community in our

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14969-1
01:23:56.510 --> 01:23:56.796
state.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14987-0
01:23:57.616 --> 01:24:03.610
Can. So is it worth so? But it still says.
Can you can you go back to the the

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14987-1
01:24:03.610 --> 01:24:04.456
throughput?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/14998-0
01:24:07.136 --> 01:24:08.776
And it's not even all of it there.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15003-0
01:24:08.776 --> 01:24:09.816
That's not the whole thing.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15012-0
01:24:08.776 --> 01:24:09.576
That's not the whole.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15005-0
01:24:08.836 --> 01:24:09.276
Right.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15013-0
01:24:09.816 --> 01:24:12.136
That was just kind of the basic of the
question.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15026-0
01:24:11.516 --> 01:24:15.276
Is it common enough to warrant sortation
to become a target material?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15033-0
01:24:15.356 --> 01:24:16.796
So you're saying if?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15071-0
01:24:17.136 --> 01:24:20.418
If it's yes at a Murph,
that doesn't mean that it's yes across

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15071-1
01:24:20.418 --> 01:24:24.482
the state and we need to look at across
the state because we can't be telling

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15071-2
01:24:24.482 --> 01:24:28.859
municipalities that they have to recycle
because that's what we're getting back to.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15071-3
01:24:28.859 --> 01:24:31.256
If it's deemed readily recyclable,
it has to.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15076-0
01:24:31.336 --> 01:24:32.776
Collected by municipalities.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15112-0
01:24:33.436 --> 01:24:35.977
And if we are telling all of the
municipalities,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15112-1
01:24:35.977 --> 01:24:39.711
if you want to be participating in our
program, you have to recycle it,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15112-2
01:24:39.711 --> 01:24:43.861
then we can't just go based on what MERS
can accept because they have very high

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15112-3
01:24:43.861 --> 01:24:44.276
volumes.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15118-0
01:24:44.356 --> 01:24:48.396
The the The Your average municipality
does not have that kind of volume.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15115-0
01:24:45.836 --> 01:24:46.516
Yes.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15134-0
01:24:49.266 --> 01:24:51.906
Fiber might just should be run through
the paper.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15141-0
01:24:51.156 --> 01:24:51.396
With.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15143-0
01:24:51.676 --> 01:24:53.396
'Cause that's where it's recycled today.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15145-0
01:24:53.396 --> 01:24:54.076
Yeah. Now, exactly.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15155-0
01:24:54.556 --> 01:24:57.436
And that's what we wanna capture is
what's happening right now.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15163-0
01:24:57.136 --> 01:24:59.642
Well,
that could be a very subjective decision

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15163-1
01:24:59.642 --> 01:25:01.776
at a local government. That's arbitrary.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15180-0
01:25:01.816 --> 01:25:03.536
We just it's it's.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15182-0
01:25:03.736 --> 01:25:06.576
That they don't take it because they
don't want to.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15189-0
01:25:06.776 --> 01:25:06.976
With.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15184-0
01:25:06.776 --> 01:25:07.056
With it.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15191-0
01:25:07.056 --> 01:25:09.776
It doesn't mean that it really doesn't
warrant so Jason.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15194-0
01:25:08.696 --> 01:25:10.616
But why don't they want to deal with that?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15205-0
01:25:11.876 --> 01:25:12.196
I mean you.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15207-0
01:25:12.196 --> 01:25:15.676
Know that's that's a that's that's not
the way municipalities behave.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15218-0
01:25:15.796 --> 01:25:17.396
No, it it does necessarily.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15220-0
01:25:16.676 --> 01:25:17.876
Municipality.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15225-0
01:25:17.676 --> 01:25:18.636
Not required to so.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15227-0
01:25:18.636 --> 01:25:19.836
One at a time, sorry.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15242-0
01:25:19.676 --> 01:25:23.316
So, so, you know, I'm sorry.
I I I'm David medoren.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15229-0
01:25:19.836 --> 01:25:21.396
Yes. Thank you, Dave.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15241-0
01:25:19.836 --> 01:25:21.396
Yes, thank Dave.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15246-0
01:25:23.316 --> 01:25:24.556
I'm deputy Commissioner for DEP.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15253-0
01:25:26.556 --> 01:25:27.156
We're recording this.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15274-0
01:25:27.316 --> 01:25:30.210
This feedback 's very important to us,
but if you're all talking over each other,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15274-1
01:25:30.210 --> 01:25:31.516
the recording 's going to be useless.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15285-0
01:25:32.356 --> 01:25:36.741
Please one at a time, 'cause.
This is very good feedback that we really

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15285-1
01:25:36.741 --> 01:25:37.716
want to have so.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15299-0
01:25:37.866 --> 01:25:40.386
With that, Carol, did you have the floor?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15297-0
01:25:39.786 --> 01:25:41.266
No, that's OK. No, that's OK.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15301-0
01:25:40.386 --> 01:25:41.186
You sure?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15309-0
01:25:41.386 --> 01:25:42.506
Welcome back, Carol. Yeah.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15313-0
01:25:41.626 --> 01:25:42.546
David, thank you.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15320-0
01:25:44.116 --> 01:25:46.676
All right. I didn't mean to jump in,
but this is really important.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15325-0
01:25:46.696 --> 01:25:48.356
Please one at a time. Thank you. Thanks.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15358-0
01:25:49.626 --> 01:25:54.528
At the Board of Environmental Protections
Meeting when this was adopted,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15358-1
01:25:54.528 --> 01:25:59.027
the Chair of the board Suessard,
who also is a municipal employee,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15358-2
01:25:59.027 --> 01:26:04.266
vocalized her concern that only the
largest municipalities are going to have.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15369-0
01:26:04.996 --> 01:26:07.356
These capacity to take advantage of this
program.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15389-0
01:26:07.556 --> 01:26:11.860
So if you're tailoring the designations
to the smallest municipalities,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15389-1
01:26:11.860 --> 01:26:15.866
that likely won't have the capacity to
participate in the program,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15389-2
01:26:15.866 --> 01:26:18.676
then you're watering down the
classifications.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15394-0
01:26:19.106 --> 01:26:19.506
For what?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15399-0
01:26:19.506 --> 01:26:22.546
The ones that will participate in the
program are following.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15410-0
01:26:24.076 --> 01:26:27.214
OK,
so that if I'm understanding you're

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15410-1
01:26:27.214 --> 01:26:28.156
saying that.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15417-0
01:26:29.716 --> 01:26:31.596
By looking at what?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15430-0
01:26:33.036 --> 01:26:33.996
By weighting them equally.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15436-0
01:26:33.036 --> 01:26:33.276
By.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15438-0
01:26:33.346 --> 01:26:35.586
Equally innovative,
we're not waiting them equally. Whose?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15440-0
01:26:36.066 --> 01:26:37.586
Concern was equitability.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15456-0
01:26:37.626 --> 01:26:41.155
Yes,
she wanted it to be equitable between

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15456-1
01:26:41.155 --> 01:26:45.422
your source,
separated municipality and your all in

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15456-2
01:26:45.422 --> 01:26:47.146
one bin Municipality.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15473-0
01:26:47.586 --> 01:26:52.215
Program has requirements for
municipalities in order to participate in

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15473-1
01:26:52.215 --> 01:26:57.106
this program that a lot of rural
communities don't have the bandwidth for.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15495-0
01:26:57.876 --> 01:27:02.664
So it will likely be the Portland
Lewiston Bangor Augusta type

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15495-1
01:27:02.664 --> 01:27:07.756
municipalities that are the first ones to
use this program, right?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15513-0
01:27:07.756 --> 01:27:12.975
But we need to set the program up so that
it is usable by other municipalities,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15513-1
01:27:12.975 --> 01:27:14.476
because if we are only.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15542-0
01:27:15.156 --> 01:27:18.342
Going by what Casella or what Ecomain can
take,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15542-1
01:27:18.342 --> 01:27:22.059
that's a lot more and not just just what
they can take,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15542-2
01:27:22.059 --> 01:27:27.236
but what they're actually recycling.
That's a lot more than the the majority.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15558-0
01:27:27.666 --> 01:27:31.226
Of the rest of the state can do.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15570-0
01:27:27.666 --> 01:27:30.666
Of the rest of the state can.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15571-0
01:27:31.226 --> 01:27:34.427
And yes,
we want to consider what they're doing,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15571-1
01:27:34.427 --> 01:27:37.106
but they can't be our only consideration.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15596-0
01:27:37.326 --> 01:27:42.980
There are some municipalities now that
are only accepting paper because they

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15596-1
01:27:42.980 --> 01:27:48.268
don't have a market for glass,
aluminum or any of the other things that

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15596-2
01:27:48.268 --> 01:27:51.206
are deemed readily recyclable right now.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15600-0
01:27:51.206 --> 01:27:52.286
So they would not be able to.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15608-0
01:27:53.076 --> 01:27:54.036
Program at this time.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15610-0
01:27:54.316 --> 01:27:54.756
Right.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15620-0
01:27:54.756 --> 01:28:00.996
But if you're basing the throughput on
what municipalities are currently doing.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15633-0
01:28:02.556 --> 01:28:06.316
It's not necessarily capturing if a
product is readily recyclable.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15665-0
01:28:06.626 --> 01:28:09.192
Well,
it's capturing if a municipality can

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15665-1
01:28:09.192 --> 01:28:10.266
afford to recycle.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15667-0
01:28:10.266 --> 01:28:13.201
Well,
it is actually capturing if it's readily

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15667-1
01:28:13.201 --> 01:28:16.074
recyclable,
because our definition of readily

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15667-2
01:28:16.074 --> 01:28:20.946
recyclable requires that all three of
those be met and throughput is related.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15680-0
01:28:22.156 --> 01:28:26.076
To the state as a whole,
not to specific regions.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15689-0
01:28:27.996 --> 01:28:29.836
That is the definition.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15693-0
01:28:29.876 --> 01:28:31.636
That's just the way that it is written.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15701-0
01:28:31.886 --> 01:28:34.126
The rules statewide, statewide.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15708-0
01:28:35.676 --> 01:28:37.716
The rules does it say in the rules
statewide? No.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15712-0
01:28:37.836 --> 01:28:39.196
This is a state program.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15715-0
01:28:39.936 --> 01:28:41.616
The throughput criteria though.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15724-0
01:28:44.276 --> 01:28:46.076
That's something that if you want to.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15737-0
01:28:47.556 --> 01:28:51.356
Comment specifically to.
You're welcome to.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15741-0
01:28:50.666 --> 01:28:53.066
I didn't mean any disrespect to
municipalities, by the way.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15749-0
01:28:53.106 --> 01:28:55.186
Meant in some cases, municipalities.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15765-0
01:28:55.226 --> 01:28:58.012
They are, for whatever reason,
the amount of space constraints,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15765-1
01:28:58.012 --> 01:29:00.319
for example,
and aren't able to accept all different

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15765-2
01:29:00.319 --> 01:29:01.146
types of materials.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15794-0
01:29:02.716 --> 01:29:07.192
If if one municipality or a few can't
recycle something that really is commonly

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15794-1
01:29:07.192 --> 01:29:09.990
recycled,
it just seems to me a little crazy that

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15794-2
01:29:09.990 --> 01:29:12.676
that takes it off.
The readily recyclable list.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15796-0
01:29:13.436 --> 01:29:15.076
OK, doesn't it so small?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15813-0
01:29:15.486 --> 01:29:20.222
I mean a lot of reasons why they're not
recycling is because of the cost of

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15829-0
01:29:15.486 --> 01:29:20.206
I mean a lot of reasons why they're not
recycling is because of the cost of.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15813-1
01:29:20.222 --> 01:29:20.846
recycling.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15830-0
01:29:20.846 --> 01:29:25.166
I mean, I met the fraud.
The purpose of this program is to assist

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15830-1
01:29:25.166 --> 01:29:27.326
municipalities with calls, right?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15839-0
01:29:27.326 --> 01:29:29.446
So we do need to be, so we're our.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15840-0
01:29:29.446 --> 01:29:31.246
What we're trying to do is make.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15866-0
01:29:31.956 --> 01:29:36.144
It the program and the broadly recyclable
list make it so that municipalities

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15850-0
01:29:35.816 --> 01:29:35.976
Just.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15866-1
01:29:36.144 --> 01:29:40.440
throughout the state can participate,
and if one of the reasons why they're not

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15866-2
01:29:40.440 --> 01:29:43.716
participating is just because of the
sheer cost of doing it.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15875-0
01:29:44.706 --> 01:29:46.346
Then this will provide.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15886-0
01:29:45.806 --> 01:29:50.019
That's what reimbursement 's for,
and that's what our investment

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15899-0
01:29:45.806 --> 01:29:50.003
That's what reimbursement 's for,
and that's what our investment

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15899-1
01:29:50.003 --> 01:29:51.166
opportunities are.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15886-1
01:29:50.019 --> 01:29:51.446
opportunities are for.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15901-0
01:29:51.446 --> 01:29:58.873
We we intend for municipalities and for
Ng OS or whoever to apply for in

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15901-1
01:29:58.873 --> 01:30:00.806
investment funding.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15914-0
01:30:01.836 --> 01:30:06.836
To help build infrastructure or education
around recycling.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15936-0
01:30:07.316 --> 01:30:11.781
By the material that's readily recyclable,
and ninety percent of the state couldn't

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15936-1
01:30:11.781 --> 01:30:15.396
be on the list until that those last ten
percent of municipalities.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15946-0
01:30:15.396 --> 01:30:15.836
No, no, no.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15940-0
01:30:15.476 --> 01:30:15.556
No.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15954-0
01:30:17.396 --> 01:30:22.136
It's we're trying to make the list so
that municipalities can't participate as

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15956-0
01:30:21.256 --> 01:30:21.576
Can.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15954-1
01:30:22.136 --> 01:30:23.036
much as twenty.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15958-0
01:30:22.536 --> 01:30:23.336
So they just have.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15970-0
01:30:26.386 --> 01:30:27.666
Right now, not every.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15972-0
01:30:28.066 --> 01:30:29.946
Municipality are precisely glass.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15993-0
01:30:29.946 --> 01:30:32.186
But with that being on the list,
they just.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15995-0
01:30:32.466 --> 01:30:33.306
They'll go. They'll get.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15997-0
01:30:33.306 --> 01:30:35.106
Reimbursement for it and they can then.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/15999-0
01:30:35.106 --> 01:30:37.346
Start selecting and that makes complete
sense to me.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16017-0
01:30:35.106 --> 01:30:37.186
Start selecting and that makes complete
sense to.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16019-0
01:30:37.346 --> 01:30:39.106
But what doesn't make sense is the way it
was.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16021-0
01:30:39.146 --> 01:30:40.226
Just mentioned that.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16023-0
01:30:40.546 --> 01:30:43.506
Throughput has the throughput criteria
has to be statewide.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16030-0
01:30:40.546 --> 01:30:42.946
Throughput has the throughput criteria
has to be.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16032-0
01:30:43.506 --> 01:30:45.386
So that to me,
if this is circular reason in.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16033-0
01:30:45.386 --> 01:30:47.226
My mind, I know I'm not. I guess I'm not.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16038-0
01:30:48.286 --> 01:30:48.886
I'm not sure that.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16042-0
01:30:48.886 --> 01:30:50.246
I'm not sure whether.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16069-0
01:30:51.596 --> 01:30:52.356
You're saying so?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16072-0
01:30:52.796 --> 01:30:57.071
I I think that the the ninety percent
might be a little high also on that

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16072-1
01:30:57.071 --> 01:30:59.036
ninety percent of our communities.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16061-0
01:30:57.716 --> 01:30:58.596
Ninety percent.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16074-0
01:30:59.036 --> 01:31:00.956
To meet the throughput criteria.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16078-0
01:30:59.036 --> 01:31:00.036
To meet the throughput.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16080-0
01:31:00.956 --> 01:31:03.916
You said it has to more insortations
statewide.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16111-0
01:31:06.466 --> 01:31:07.946
So that's where I'm confused.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16113-0
01:31:08.106 --> 01:31:13.642
What I was saying is that not having this
ninety percent idea that ninety percent

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16113-1
01:31:13.642 --> 01:31:17.828
of our communities are sending things to
Casella or Eco main,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16113-2
01:31:17.828 --> 01:31:19.786
I'm not sure that that is is.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16141-0
01:31:21.276 --> 01:31:25.154
Accurate representation of that,
because we do have a lot of

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16141-1
01:31:25.154 --> 01:31:29.922
municipalities that are utilizing
transfer stations or municipal recycling

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16141-2
01:31:29.922 --> 01:31:33.356
centers or like Maine has a very dynamic
approach to.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16155-0
01:31:36.426 --> 01:31:40.866
And waste management and our program
needs to reflect that.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16168-0
01:31:41.196 --> 01:31:46.436
So how can you and how is throughput
determined? Yeah.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16177-0
01:31:46.546 --> 01:31:47.746
I I can speak a little bit to that.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16191-0
01:31:46.546 --> 01:31:47.546
I I can speak a little bit to.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16193-0
01:31:47.746 --> 01:31:51.639
I think the with the data that we had
available from the recycling

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16193-1
01:31:51.639 --> 01:31:53.906
establishment reports, we were able to.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16200-0
01:31:55.396 --> 01:31:58.716
Disaggregate those reports into brokers
of.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16227-0
01:32:01.276 --> 01:32:06.110
With brokers brokering material out of
material resource facilities or recovery

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16227-1
01:32:06.110 --> 01:32:10.944
facilities and we were able to look at
brokers brokering material coming out of

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16227-2
01:32:10.944 --> 01:32:12.636
source separated operations.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16232-0
01:32:12.796 --> 01:32:14.356
So we did take into account.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16234-0
01:32:15.876 --> 01:32:15.996
The.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16248-0
01:32:16.346 --> 01:32:22.506
Those those differences and and for the
throughput criteria, so long as there was.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16282-0
01:32:24.156 --> 01:32:30.148
Use of the reportable recyclables in in
those reports for both coming out of the

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16282-1
01:32:30.148 --> 01:32:34.143
Murph and coming out of a source
separated operation,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16282-2
01:32:34.143 --> 01:32:37.916
then that that did lead us to check off
that it's.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16298-0
01:32:39.676 --> 01:32:44.236
To show that the criteria for the
criterion for throughput was met for that

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16298-1
01:32:44.236 --> 01:32:45.676
packaging material type.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16308-0
01:32:45.866 --> 01:32:51.066
So it wasn't a ninety ten split.
The split was really between was the.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16338-0
01:32:52.676 --> 01:32:58.346
Was the material included in a commodity
that's being produced by both source

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16338-1
01:32:58.346 --> 01:33:03.507
separated operations and material
recovery facility operations and the

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16338-2
01:33:03.507 --> 01:33:06.996
material within that commodity?
Is it targeted?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16352-0
01:33:08.836 --> 01:33:15.596
So we did look into both both of those
sides of the production of commodity.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16366-0
01:33:16.586 --> 01:33:20.026
Because it is all we do,
acknowledge that it is a little different.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16387-0
01:33:20.426 --> 01:33:25.358
There's a there's a lot of there's
there's a promise of volume for the

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16387-1
01:33:25.358 --> 01:33:28.207
murphs,
which isn't a promise for source

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16387-2
01:33:28.207 --> 01:33:29.666
separated operations.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16403-0
01:33:31.036 --> 01:33:35.876
So when we just if if that's helpful,
if not I can try to say that again.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16410-0
01:33:36.156 --> 01:33:39.276
We did look at those two sides of.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16424-0
01:33:41.296 --> 01:33:45.176
Of the of the commodity reporting through
the broker report.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16431-0
01:33:45.906 --> 01:33:47.306
Yeah. Can I add one more?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16439-0
01:33:47.306 --> 01:33:48.226
I mean whether true this.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16441-0
01:33:48.226 --> 01:33:50.946
Is the initial. This is the first year.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16474-0
01:33:52.436 --> 01:33:54.433
For and,
our attempt is to try and get the list,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16474-1
01:33:54.433 --> 01:33:54.556
so.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16476-0
01:33:54.556 --> 01:33:55.076
That.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16478-0
01:33:55.596 --> 01:34:00.353
Municipalities can as many municipalities
and can participate as possible with the

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16478-1
01:34:00.353 --> 01:34:03.276
idea that this is going to get renewed
every year.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16482-0
01:34:03.556 --> 01:34:04.156
It's more of a.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16484-0
01:34:04.276 --> 01:34:05.796
More reviewed, reviewed every year.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16487-0
01:34:06.406 --> 01:34:07.086
Every year.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16512-0
01:34:07.086 --> 01:34:12.792
So we we anticipate more material coming
online as funds get out to reimbursement

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16497-0
01:34:11.256 --> 01:34:11.456
Why?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16512-1
01:34:12.792 --> 01:34:18.080
funds get out municipalities and they
ramp up their recycling more and more

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16512-2
01:34:18.080 --> 01:34:18.846
every year.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16526-0
01:34:21.676 --> 01:34:24.516
Yeah. Bring it back to molded fiber again.
I'm sorry.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16532-0
01:34:24.966 --> 01:34:27.126
Yeah, but we have questions online.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16541-0
01:34:26.596 --> 01:34:28.836
And you have other hands up first, just.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16543-0
01:34:28.836 --> 01:34:29.396
So you know.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16538-0
01:34:29.026 --> 01:34:29.986
Yes, yes.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16547-0
01:34:29.986 --> 01:34:30.866
Thank you.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16552-0
01:34:31.066 --> 01:34:32.826
Is there anybody else on this side?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16569-0
01:34:34.356 --> 01:34:35.436
That has a question. OK, I have a.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16562-0
01:34:36.136 --> 01:34:36.656
I could have.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16571-0
01:34:36.596 --> 01:34:40.036
Question I think will help us with with
this thing.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16578-0
01:34:40.036 --> 01:34:42.196
We're grappling with so pet.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16576-0
01:34:43.238 --> 01:34:43.398
<v Ally Peck>Yeah.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16588-0
01:34:44.036 --> 01:34:44.956
E the seller received.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16604-0
01:34:45.636 --> 01:34:49.910
Sorry, counselor,
receives our customer 's material

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16604-1
01:34:49.910 --> 01:34:51.636
includes lots of pet.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16609-0
01:34:51.676 --> 01:34:54.156
We make a bail that's gonna have pet
bottles in it.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16626-0
01:34:51.676 --> 01:34:54.036
We make a bail that's gonna have pet
bottles in.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16628-0
01:34:54.156 --> 01:34:57.860
It's gonna have thermoforms.
We sell all of that together and and it

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16628-1
01:34:57.860 --> 01:35:00.276
goes to markets to recycle to new
materials.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16657-0
01:35:01.396 --> 01:35:06.058
Another community running a source
separated program might not get enough

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16657-1
01:35:06.058 --> 01:35:10.909
thermoform material separately on its own
to justify and meet the throughput

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16657-2
01:35:10.909 --> 01:35:11.476
criteria.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16662-0
01:35:11.756 --> 01:35:13.916
Is that why we're seeing here on the list?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16674-0
01:35:14.156 --> 01:35:16.596
Yes, marketability, but no one.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16680-0
01:35:14.156 --> 01:35:16.396
Yes, marketability, but no.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16682-0
01:35:16.596 --> 01:35:19.196
The throughput question again because
cell is getting enough.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16687-0
01:35:19.476 --> 01:35:21.196
Main, presumably, is getting enough.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16695-0
01:35:21.836 --> 01:35:22.796
To market it and send it off.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16710-0
01:35:22.936 --> 01:35:24.656
And we know that there are two markets.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16705-0
01:35:24.316 --> 01:35:25.956
Separated program likely wouldn't.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16712-0
01:35:25.296 --> 01:35:25.736
Right.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16708-0
01:35:26.076 --> 01:35:26.636
That the logic.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16715-0
01:35:26.636 --> 01:35:27.436
That is correct. OK.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16721-0
01:35:27.296 --> 01:35:28.416
That is correct, yes.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16750-0
01:35:27.786 --> 01:35:31.185
Thank you.
I do wanna ask so in when a bail is made,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16750-1
01:35:31.185 --> 01:35:36.509
apet bottles and thermoforms both the pet
bottles and the thermoforms in that Bale

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16750-2
01:35:36.509 --> 01:35:39.396
are.
Do they meet the definition of a target

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16750-3
01:35:39.396 --> 01:35:42.026
material, meaning that they are used for?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16768-0
01:35:43.996 --> 01:35:46.880
Yeah,
they're recycled plastic pellets ready

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16768-1
01:35:46.880 --> 01:35:49.956
for use in an extrusion or a molding
operation.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16775-0
01:35:50.386 --> 01:35:51.266
They're going into.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16793-0
01:35:51.666 --> 01:35:55.341
So I think we'll be ready to fill out
your form and we'll talk with our buyers

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16793-1
01:35:55.341 --> 01:35:58.318
to make sure we're answering everything
technically accurately.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16793-2
01:35:58.318 --> 01:36:00.226
I do have one little follow up. So those.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16803-0
01:36:00.586 --> 01:36:03.386
Those bills do contain deposit material.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16818-0
01:36:04.956 --> 01:36:07.196
Is that are accounts getting reimbursed
for that or?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16825-0
01:36:06.756 --> 01:36:10.356
No. So bottle Bill is not part of our.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16840-0
01:36:09.656 --> 01:36:14.216
The door of that Bale would be like
deposit bottles, non deposit.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16853-0
01:36:14.216 --> 01:36:16.136
So we and.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16854-0
01:36:16.696 --> 01:36:19.296
That would be the stewardship
organizations responsibility to do.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16851-0
01:36:17.636 --> 01:36:19.756
Organization, right?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16855-0
01:36:19.296 --> 01:36:20.296
That material, right?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16859-0
01:36:20.336 --> 01:36:22.416
Yeah, for material audits. Exactly, yes.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16867-0
01:36:23.756 --> 01:36:28.356
Yep, online online Amy Alli. Ali.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16865-0
01:36:28.748 --> 01:36:28.908
<v Ally Peck>OK.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16871-0
01:36:32.176 --> 01:36:33.016
Yes, I think so.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16873-0
01:36:34.816 --> 01:36:35.056
Yeah.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16876-0
01:36:39.278 --> 01:36:40.198
<v Ally Peck>Conversations.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16883-0
01:36:43.346 --> 01:36:44.266
You're breaking up.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16889-0
01:36:45.756 --> 01:36:47.676
Maybe if you turn off your camera we
could hear you better.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16894-0
01:36:51.356 --> 01:36:52.916
No, no.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16897-0
01:36:52.916 --> 01:36:53.516
Still breaking.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16896-0
01:36:53.188 --> 01:36:53.828
<v Ally Peck>General.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16899-0
01:36:56.078 --> 01:36:56.318
<v Ally Peck>OK.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16901-0
01:36:56.318 --> 01:36:56.958
<v Ally Peck>What about now?</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16911-0
01:36:58.006 --> 01:36:58.286
But.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16905-0
01:36:58.788 --> 01:36:59.988
<v Ally Peck>Yes. OK, great.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16947-0
01:37:01.598 --> 01:37:04.405
<v Ally Peck>OK,
so I wanted to provide one follow up</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16947-1
01:37:04.405 --> 01:37:09.952
<v Ally Peck>comment to the molded fiber conversation
because a lot of it's circulated around</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16947-2
01:37:09.952 --> 01:37:14.198
<v Ally Peck>food packaging and like does the food
make it not recyclable?</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16955-0
01:37:14.558 --> 01:37:19.158
<v Ally Peck>Molded fiber is also used for electronics.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16957-0
01:37:19.678 --> 01:37:21.238
<v Ally Peck>This is a laptop.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/16966-0
01:37:22.918 --> 01:37:27.638
<v Ally Peck>In two pieces, take it off.
We have replaced plastic.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17013-0
01:37:27.948 --> 01:37:31.593
<v Ally Peck>With molded fiber.
And so we hope to not be punished for</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17013-1
01:37:31.593 --> 01:37:34.534
<v Ally Peck>that like we we hope to be rewarded for
that.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17013-2
01:37:34.534 --> 01:37:39.841
<v Ally Peck>And so if we could make sure that if it's
molded fiber that is not food tarnished,</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17013-3
01:37:39.841 --> 01:37:43.678
<v Ally Peck>we should hopefully be able to be
recyclable, so that that.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17034-0
01:37:43.708 --> 01:37:48.908
<v Ally Peck>My comment I will for sure be submitting
written written comments as well.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17046-0
01:37:49.268 --> 01:37:53.457
<v Ally Peck>I have some other examples too.
If if you would like some more show and</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17046-1
01:37:53.457 --> 01:37:54.388
<v Ally Peck>tell, that's it.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17051-0
01:37:54.026 --> 01:37:54.986
Thank you, Alex.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17063-0
01:37:55.386 --> 01:37:58.866
Could you let us know where your your
association where you're from?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17056-0
01:37:58.498 --> 01:37:59.618
<v Ally Peck>Oh, sorry.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17066-0
01:37:59.618 --> 01:38:01.973
<v Ally Peck>Yes,
I am with the Consumer Technology</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17066-1
01:38:01.973 --> 01:38:02.698
<v Ally Peck>Association.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17070-0
01:38:02.946 --> 01:38:03.946
Thank you very much.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17077-0
01:38:06.266 --> 01:38:08.226
I can follow up with that a little bit
too.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17081-0
01:38:08.296 --> 01:38:08.336
I.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17090-0
01:38:08.746 --> 01:38:11.706
Food packaging is only a one section of
molded fiber.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17092-0
01:38:11.706 --> 01:38:12.906
Yes, we're aware.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17101-0
01:38:11.706 --> 01:38:12.666
Yes, we're.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17103-0
01:38:12.906 --> 01:38:14.826
Thank you very much all of that comment.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17109-0
01:38:14.536 --> 01:38:15.776
I just have a couple quick ones.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17123-0
01:38:14.536 --> 01:38:15.456
I just have a couple quick.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17124-0
01:38:15.776 --> 01:38:18.377
Yep.
Do we have any idea what population is

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17124-1
01:38:18.377 --> 01:38:21.096
gonna be if we went with this list right
now?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17136-0
01:38:21.576 --> 01:38:24.656
What population of Maine is gonna be OK
to go?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17154-0
01:38:25.336 --> 01:38:30.626
Where are the holes and the other part is
how long do we have after this list is

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17154-1
01:38:30.626 --> 01:38:33.696
done to fill these holes,
retrain some people?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17169-0
01:38:34.356 --> 01:38:37.556
To get them compliant so they can get in
on the funds to cover the cost.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17182-0
01:38:37.556 --> 01:38:43.236
So if I'm understanding when is reporting
starting, is that kind of the question?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17191-0
01:38:43.376 --> 01:38:45.856
Like right now covering the goal.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17187-0
01:38:43.586 --> 01:38:44.066
Or.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17196-0
01:38:46.256 --> 01:38:47.256
Everybody else.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17210-0
01:38:47.696 --> 01:38:52.826
How many towns or population wise don't
get to play right now?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17210-1
01:38:52.826 --> 01:38:54.536
Do you have any idea?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17216-0
01:38:53.676 --> 01:38:57.116
In Casella and Eco main,
who's not covered, is that.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17229-0
01:38:57.256 --> 01:39:01.616
I'm not covered by this simple. Well,
we will call a simple this list.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17258-0
01:39:02.016 --> 01:39:04.661
You know,
because a lot of people that I deal with

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17258-1
01:39:04.661 --> 01:39:09.018
don't do anything with mixed paper right
now. Would like to get them back doing it.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17258-2
01:39:09.018 --> 01:39:12.648
If this is super successful,
that market 's gonna be flooded locally.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17258-3
01:39:12.648 --> 01:39:12.856
But.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17270-0
01:39:13.516 --> 01:39:15.836
Are there a lot of towns that we need to
really work on?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17279-0
01:39:17.396 --> 01:39:19.036
To get them to be able to do this.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17273-0
01:39:17.476 --> 01:39:17.556
To.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17313-0
01:39:18.826 --> 01:39:21.927
OK,
so I think that gets to when we bring on

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17313-1
01:39:21.927 --> 01:39:27.028
the so in the spring of next year,
we will be doing a needs assessment to

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17313-2
01:39:27.028 --> 01:39:31.026
understand better what what
municipalities are are doing.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17342-0
01:39:32.516 --> 01:39:36.016
What they're collecting,
what they need to meet the the

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17342-1
01:39:36.016 --> 01:39:39.453
requirements of becoming a participating
municipality.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17342-2
01:39:39.453 --> 01:39:42.516
That's stuff that where we will be
working with.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17352-0
01:39:42.256 --> 01:39:45.031
To go to all those towns, say, hey,
you don't do this.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17352-1
01:39:45.031 --> 01:39:46.696
This is what you need to do this.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17354-0
01:39:45.876 --> 01:39:46.436
Yeah, mm hmm.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17356-0
01:39:46.436 --> 01:39:47.756
How can we help do this?

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01:39:47.916 --> 01:39:48.716
Will help inform.

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01:39:49.066 --> 01:39:49.746
What? OK.

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01:39:50.186 --> 01:39:51.106
What our next steps are?

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01:39:51.156 --> 01:39:55.808
We do have one starting data point for
that, which is the municipal progress,

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01:39:51.156 --> 01:39:55.821
We do have one starting data point for
that, which is the municipal progress,

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01:39:55.808 --> 01:39:57.956
municipal recycling progress report.

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01:39:55.821 --> 01:39:57.556
municipal recycling progress.

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01:39:57.956 --> 01:40:02.727
So we do plan on doing a deeper dive into
those this year as part of what we're

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01:40:02.727 --> 01:40:06.485
going to do capacity report,
but that information will also be

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01:40:06.485 --> 01:40:11.436
available to organizations who then also
can route using that as a starting point.

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01:40:14.706 --> 01:40:19.146
And Joe, I will say too,
there are some questions online.

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01:40:15.086 --> 01:40:15.726
Ashley.

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01:40:19.226 --> 01:40:20.706
We'll get to these and then yeah.

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01:40:21.446 --> 01:40:21.766
OK.

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01:40:22.126 --> 01:40:23.980
Yes,
we did go to the other side of the room

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01:40:23.980 --> 01:40:24.846
before we hit online.

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01:40:24.886 --> 01:40:25.806
Oh no, we did. We did.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17479-0
01:40:26.136 --> 01:40:27.736
Ashley 's next Ashley.

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01:40:27.636 --> 01:40:27.796
OK.

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01:40:27.736 --> 01:40:28.536
'S next Ashley 's next.

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01:40:27.796 --> 01:40:28.356
I just.

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01:40:28.356 --> 01:40:31.971
I just have one very broad comment,
umm and that is you know,

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01:40:28.536 --> 01:40:29.256
Thank you, Dave.

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01:40:31.506 --> 01:40:31.866
OK.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17505-1
01:40:31.971 --> 01:40:34.596
so I'm with Maine State Chamber of
Commerce.

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01:40:34.596 --> 01:40:38.665
We represent your manufacturers,
producers, haulers, recyclers,

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01:40:38.665 --> 01:40:40.636
you name it. We represent them.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17538-0
01:40:42.356 --> 01:40:46.713
So much of what I'm hearing today and
across the board from our members in the

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01:40:46.713 --> 01:40:49.636
weeks leading up to this,
the months of the process.

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01:40:50.546 --> 01:40:54.906
Through the rule being adopted is
consistency.

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01:40:55.066 --> 01:40:58.999
And so again,
I would just echo what klitsa and the

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01:40:58.999 --> 01:41:03.538
Chris others have said,
like we need consistency with other

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01:41:03.538 --> 01:41:06.186
states. I also found it incredibly.

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01:41:09.676 --> 01:41:15.038
Concerning, I will say there,
when Mister Barber asked about product or

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01:41:15.038 --> 01:41:20.996
packaging that producers are paying for
that are not actually being reimbursed.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17604-2
01:41:20.996 --> 01:41:25.316
Those dollars are not being reimbursed to
municipalities.

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01:41:25.426 --> 01:41:26.706
That's a major concern.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17617-0
01:41:25.426 --> 01:41:26.266
That's a major.

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01:41:26.706 --> 01:41:29.813
I mean,
that was the entire point of this program

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01:41:26.706 --> 01:41:29.673
I mean,
that was the entire point of this program

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01:41:29.673 --> 01:41:30.386
being stood.

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01:41:29.813 --> 01:41:30.746
being stood up.

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01:41:30.746 --> 01:41:36.697
And so if we're asking producers to pay
on packaging that isn't actually going to

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01:41:36.697 --> 01:41:37.786
municipalities.

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01:41:38.106 --> 01:41:40.466
That's a major concern.

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01:41:39.256 --> 01:41:42.376
It does, actually, through investments,
right?

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01:41:39.256 --> 01:41:41.696
It does actually, through investments.

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01:41:42.376 --> 01:41:45.851
That's the slack,
not what comes in is equal to what goes

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01:41:45.851 --> 01:41:49.625
out and the so when we do have a
difference which is expected,

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01:41:49.625 --> 01:41:53.699
that difference is then invested into
infrastructure and education.

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01:41:53.699 --> 01:41:56.216
That improves the management of recycling.

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01:41:56.256 --> 01:41:58.096
That's a very fundamental.

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01:41:58.796 --> 01:42:02.344
Part of this program that given as much
as we've been doing outreach,

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01:42:02.344 --> 01:42:05.436
if that's still a misunderstanding. Yeah,
that's concerning.

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01:42:05.866 --> 01:42:11.057
And if it's not going to municipalities,
then it is still using main

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01:42:06.626 --> 01:42:08.106
No more so in this.

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01:42:11.057 --> 01:42:12.186
infrastructure.

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01:42:13.676 --> 01:42:14.556
So that is another.

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01:42:16.196 --> 01:42:20.210
Reason why producers of that packaging
material, you know,

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01:42:20.210 --> 01:42:22.116
would be responsible for it.

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01:42:22.116 --> 01:42:28.465
So you're saying that essentially the
benefit to municipalities is the role is

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01:42:22.286 --> 01:42:23.046
So.

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01:42:28.465 --> 01:42:30.796
part of what the so is doing?

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01:42:32.586 --> 01:42:34.426
Any firms of education.

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01:42:35.916 --> 01:42:38.756
And the state,
the states also involved with outreach.

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01:42:39.316 --> 01:42:42.991
Yeah,
if there's a fee that's paid to the state

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01:42:42.991 --> 01:42:46.666
from the,
from the program that's also covering

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01:42:46.666 --> 01:42:51.796
oversight, administration outreach.
But that's why it's important.

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01:42:52.716 --> 01:42:56.686
Particularly this, this, this readily,
the readily recyclable designation

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01:42:56.686 --> 01:42:57.116
because.

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01:42:58.596 --> 01:43:01.143
It's going to have to.
These materials are going to have to be

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01:43:01.143 --> 01:43:02.356
collected and recycled by all.

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01:43:02.946 --> 01:43:08.386
Municipalities participating in the state,
so we do need to strike a balance.

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01:43:09.836 --> 01:43:14.697
Between you know the places where we have
the greatest volume and the places where

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01:43:14.697 --> 01:43:16.396
we have, you know, no volume.

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01:43:18.796 --> 01:43:22.184
In order to, you know,
try to get this program to be as

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01:43:22.184 --> 01:43:23.516
equitable as possible.

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01:43:24.816 --> 01:43:25.856
Appreciate the clarification.

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01:43:28.396 --> 01:43:28.876
Yeah.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17909-0
01:43:29.196 --> 01:43:31.596
Should we go online before we come back
to the side of the room?

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01:43:31.676 --> 01:43:34.674
OK. 'cause,
I think we have another question on is

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01:43:34.674 --> 01:43:35.556
that all right?

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01:43:36.236 --> 01:43:36.676
With you, Sir.

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01:43:37.196 --> 01:43:37.876
OK. Do we have a?

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01:43:40.236 --> 01:43:41.916
Molly, OK.

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01:43:41.508 --> 01:43:42.908
<v Molly Blessing>Hi, can you guys hear me OK?</v>

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01:43:43.476 --> 01:43:43.796
Yes, thank you.

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01:43:44.628 --> 01:43:46.148
<v Molly Blessing>Awesome. I'm Molly blessing.</v>

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01:43:46.148 --> 01:43:48.993
<v Molly Blessing>I'm with the house and Commercial
Products Association,</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17968-1
01:43:48.993 --> 01:43:52.398
<v Molly Blessing>so we represent producers of products
that you would use to clean,</v>

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01:43:52.398 --> 01:43:55.548
<v Molly Blessing>maintain protectors. In fact,
your homes and your workplaces.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/17993-0
01:43:55.708 --> 01:43:57.914
<v Molly Blessing>And so I have a couple of questions on
aerosols.</v>

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01:43:57.914 --> 01:44:01.516
<v Molly Blessing>I'm hoping you can answer them to help us
provide you more targeted feedback on</v>

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01:44:01.516 --> 01:44:03.948
<v Molly Blessing>what you're looking for as you develop
out this list.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18006-0
01:44:05.518 --> 01:44:09.238
<v Molly Blessing>So one is on reading this initial draft
packaging materials list.</v>

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01:44:10.918 --> 01:44:14.908
<v Molly Blessing>It seems that you were citing a provision
in the rule that allowed you to segment</v>

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01:44:14.908 --> 01:44:15.638
<v Molly Blessing>out categories.</v>

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01:44:15.908 --> 01:44:21.502
<v Molly Blessing>Based on whether they met Maine's
hazardous material criteria regardless of</v>

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01:44:21.502 --> 01:44:25.330
<v Molly Blessing>generator status and aerosols at the
federal level,</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18063-2
01:44:25.330 --> 01:44:28.348
<v Molly Blessing>do not all meet hazardous waste criteria.</v>

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01:44:28.468 --> 01:44:30.591
<v Molly Blessing>There are aerosols formulas,
nonflammable repellents,</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18079-1
01:44:30.591 --> 01:44:33.148
<v Molly Blessing>for example that are not considered
hazardous by those criteria.</v>

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01:44:33.148 --> 01:44:35.821
<v Molly Blessing>So I'm wondering,
is there something specific in Mainz</v>

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01:44:35.821 --> 01:44:39.710
<v Molly Blessing>that's different related to aerosols and
are you able to provide that statutory</v>

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01:44:39.710 --> 01:44:40.148
<v Molly Blessing>citation?</v>

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01:44:40.958 --> 01:44:43.562
<v Molly Blessing>So that's one question.
And then my second question is when</v>

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01:44:43.562 --> 01:44:45.038
<v Molly Blessing>continuing the steam of alignment.</v>

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01:44:45.348 --> 01:44:49.349
<v Molly Blessing>And ideally wanted to align as much as
possible with what's happening in other</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18156-1
01:44:49.349 --> 01:44:52.590
<v Molly Blessing>states to support consistency for both
consumers and producers.</v>

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01:44:52.590 --> 01:44:56.440
<v Molly Blessing>We've seen in California and Colorado's
readily recyclable lists that empty</v>

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01:44:56.440 --> 01:44:59.428
<v Molly Blessing>aerosols are considered recyclable at
curbside. In Oregon,</v>

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01:44:59.428 --> 01:45:01.758
<v Molly Blessing>California is developing out of program
plan.</v>

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01:45:01.758 --> 01:45:06.702
<v Molly Blessing>Amendment that would also put empty air
results on the bed early recyclable list</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18176-1
01:45:06.702 --> 01:45:07.068
<v Molly Blessing>there.</v>

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01:45:07.068 --> 01:45:11.188
<v Molly Blessing>So Maine's proposal to consider aerosols
not recyclable.</v>

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01:45:12.038 --> 01:45:14.758
<v Molly Blessing>Based on marketability,
does seem unaligned.</v>

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01:45:15.148 --> 01:45:18.111
<v Molly Blessing>With what we're seeing in other states.
So I'm just wondering,</v>

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01:45:18.111 --> 01:45:21.779
<v Molly Blessing>is there any additional information you
can provide along with that statutory</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18230-2
01:45:21.779 --> 01:45:25.448
<v Molly Blessing>citation on what's driving your proposal
here so that we can have an informed</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18230-3
01:45:25.448 --> 01:45:27.988
<v Molly Blessing>conversation with you about it further
down the line?</v>

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01:45:27.988 --> 01:45:28.508
<v Molly Blessing>Thank you.</v>

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01:45:29.226 --> 01:45:30.786
Thank you very much for your question.

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01:45:31.556 --> 01:45:40.717
I think the aerosols comes back to how
aerosols being separated or not separated,

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01:45:40.717 --> 01:45:44.516
but a separate material type, yes.

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01:45:41.886 --> 01:45:42.606
Have a separate.

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01:45:41.886 --> 01:45:42.126
Have a.

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01:45:45.876 --> 01:45:51.496
Because we also looked at the cost of
management and it's expected that the

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01:45:51.496 --> 01:45:57.561
cost of managed to our understanding the
cost of management of aerosol containers

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01:45:57.561 --> 01:46:00.076
was greater than that of the cost.

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01:46:00.666 --> 01:46:06.226
Of other packaging material types that
have the same base material.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18310-0
01:46:06.766 --> 01:46:06.846
Oh.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18328-0
01:46:07.796 --> 01:46:11.884
Aerosol containers.
I I don't recall if it's Casella or if it

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18328-1
01:46:11.884 --> 01:46:12.676
is eco main.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18331-0
01:46:12.746 --> 01:46:16.066
They're not on the accepted list,
is that correct?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18336-0
01:46:16.106 --> 01:46:16.826
That is correct.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18358-0
01:46:18.636 --> 01:46:22.777
We have had incidents,
I mean processing standpoint where they

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18358-1
01:46:22.777 --> 01:46:27.116
are very dangerous and combustible
actually blowing up Baylor 's.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18373-0
01:46:28.396 --> 01:46:29.876
That is, that's a fact.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18363-0
01:46:28.706 --> 01:46:29.146
Yeah.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18375-0
01:46:29.916 --> 01:46:33.111
Yeah,
and and aerosol containers more broadly

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18375-1
01:46:33.111 --> 01:46:35.196
with the materials management.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18384-0
01:46:36.556 --> 01:46:37.396
Group at DEP.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18391-0
01:46:38.196 --> 01:46:42.476
They are considered their own waste type
because.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18425-0
01:46:43.026 --> 01:46:45.745
Of that.
So they like landfills and

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18425-1
01:46:45.745 --> 01:46:51.636
transportations and all of that they
they're not putting those in their scrap

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18425-2
01:46:51.636 --> 01:46:55.413
or their,
their recycling bails as far as we know

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18425-3
01:46:55.413 --> 01:46:57.906
because of that potential danger.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18432-0
01:46:58.426 --> 01:47:00.026
Combustible, combustible.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18428-0
01:46:58.956 --> 01:46:59.476
Combustible.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18437-0
01:47:01.556 --> 01:47:01.716
Yeah.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18433-0
01:47:02.098 --> 01:47:02.258
<v Molly Blessing>OK.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18465-0
01:47:02.258 --> 01:47:05.048
<v Molly Blessing>So just that we'll follow up with
comments then. But just again,</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18441-0
01:47:03.476 --> 01:47:03.556
So.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18465-1
01:47:05.048 --> 01:47:07.410
<v Molly Blessing>not all aerosols are formed with
flammable propellant,</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18465-2
01:47:07.410 --> 01:47:10.458
<v Molly Blessing>so not all aerosols are going to be
combustible in that fashion again.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18477-0
01:47:10.216 --> 01:47:10.576
OK.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18473-0
01:47:10.458 --> 01:47:11.098
<v Molly Blessing>But we can follow both comments.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18479-0
01:47:11.098 --> 01:47:12.298
<v Molly Blessing>But just wanted to clarify that.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18480-0
01:47:12.656 --> 01:47:13.296
Great. OK.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18482-0
01:47:13.296 --> 01:47:13.616
Thank you.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18493-0
01:47:14.556 --> 01:47:17.156
So are we aerosol like?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18495-0
01:47:17.196 --> 01:47:20.516
Airspray or like a Lysol.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18499-0
01:47:19.516 --> 01:47:20.476
Whipped cream.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18507-0
01:47:20.636 --> 01:47:21.876
I'm guessing a decent Lysol.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18509-0
01:47:21.876 --> 01:47:24.396
Is probably what she's talking about.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18511-0
01:47:23.846 --> 01:47:24.566
Yeah.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18506-0
01:47:24.668 --> 01:47:25.308
<v Molly Blessing>Yeah, yeah.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18518-0
01:47:28.636 --> 01:47:29.636
One more online.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18520-0
01:47:29.636 --> 01:47:30.436
One more online.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18522-0
01:47:30.516 --> 01:47:30.876
OK.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18525-0
01:47:32.706 --> 01:47:33.186
Yep.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18529-0
01:47:33.056 --> 01:47:34.256
And Andy?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18553-0
01:47:35.878 --> 01:47:38.611
<v Andy Hackman>Yeah.
So one comment again towards the</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18553-1
01:47:38.611 --> 01:47:44.078
<v Andy Hackman>throughput we're trying to get your data
to justify changing the designation.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18587-0
01:47:44.198 --> 01:47:48.701
<v Andy Hackman>It's been mentioned in the in the
comments and in the the chat 60%</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18587-1
01:47:48.701 --> 01:47:53.608
<v Andy Hackman>population basis like we need some
threshold there in order for us to to</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18587-2
01:47:53.608 --> 01:47:57.238
<v Andy Hackman>provide justifiable information to you
that's useful.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18595-0
01:47:57.238 --> 01:48:01.238
<v Andy Hackman>So if the department can articulate what
that threshold is and a number.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18604-0
01:48:01.958 --> 01:48:05.044
<v Andy Hackman>Other than a subjective,
it may not be collected in union,</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18604-1
01:48:05.044 --> 01:48:06.038
<v Andy Hackman>ME or Presque Isle.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18607-0
01:48:06.668 --> 01:48:08.068
<v Andy Hackman>Like you know, we need.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18612-0
01:48:08.068 --> 01:48:09.908
<v Andy Hackman>We need some sort of predictable
threshold.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18625-0
01:48:11.438 --> 01:48:13.838
<v Andy Hackman>You know,
Home Rule is not unique to Maine, right?</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18637-0
01:48:13.878 --> 01:48:16.197
<v Andy Hackman>You know there,
there are communities and other EPR</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18637-1
01:48:16.197 --> 01:48:17.758
<v Andy Hackman>states that have home rule as well.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18692-0
01:48:17.838 --> 01:48:20.892
<v Andy Hackman>And we've got consistent lists that are
evolving there.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18692-1
01:48:20.892 --> 01:48:24.874
<v Andy Hackman>So we need to be able to to have
something that doesn't punish the types</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18692-2
01:48:24.874 --> 01:48:29.292
<v Andy Hackman>of of packaging types that we're trying
to incentivize just because we're trying</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18692-3
01:48:29.292 --> 01:48:33.438
<v Andy Hackman>to tailor something to, you know,
smaller communities. I know that point's.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18699-0
01:48:33.438 --> 01:48:34.118
<v Andy Hackman>Been hit already?</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18702-0
01:48:34.238 --> 01:48:35.998
<v Andy Hackman>I did have a specific question about.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18716-0
01:48:36.348 --> 01:48:39.108
<v Andy Hackman>The exemption for products delivered at
retail.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18755-0
01:48:39.108 --> 01:48:43.418
<v Andy Hackman>I went back and looked at the rule and
retailers are not exempt from the</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18755-1
01:48:43.418 --> 01:48:48.082
<v Andy Hackman>definition of consumer and I only find 2
instances in the final rule that that</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18755-2
01:48:48.082 --> 01:48:52.864
<v Andy Hackman>mention retail and none of them exempt
retailer or product delivered to retailer</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18755-3
01:48:52.864 --> 01:48:55.108
<v Andy Hackman>to a retailer. From the definition of.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18776-0
01:48:55.108 --> 01:48:57.888
<v Andy Hackman>Packaging.
So I'd like to understand that because</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18776-1
01:48:57.888 --> 01:49:00.668
<v Andy Hackman>we'll have to provide data on those
materials if.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18781-0
01:49:01.478 --> 01:49:02.438
<v Andy Hackman>They're truly exempt, or if they're not.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18784-0
01:49:03.516 --> 01:49:03.876
OK.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18789-0
01:49:03.876 --> 01:49:05.836
Yep, I can speak to both your points.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18811-0
01:49:03.876 --> 01:49:05.516
Yep, I can speak to both your.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18813-0
01:49:05.836 --> 01:49:11.482
So the consumer definition specifically
calls out that a retailer,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18813-1
01:49:11.482 --> 01:49:17.550
distributor or installer is not
considered a consumer and the packaging

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18813-2
01:49:17.550 --> 01:49:19.236
material definition.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18824-0
01:49:20.786 --> 01:49:23.106
It uses the word go ahead.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18846-0
01:49:24.258 --> 01:49:28.929
<v Andy Hackman>I was gonna say I'm looking at the
definition consumer now it says consumer</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18846-1
01:49:28.929 --> 01:49:33.539
<v Andy Hackman>means an entity that produces including
creates a new product and provides</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18846-2
01:49:33.539 --> 01:49:34.338
<v Andy Hackman>consumer. OK.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18850-0
01:49:34.378 --> 01:49:35.658
<v Andy Hackman>All right, I've got the language.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18855-0
01:49:35.658 --> 01:49:36.778
<v Andy Hackman>Thank you for clarifying that.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18867-0
01:49:36.976 --> 01:49:40.376
Yep. And then to your first point,
I think what would be really helpful,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18899-0
01:49:36.976 --> 01:49:40.456
Yep. And then to your first point,
I think what would be really helpful?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18867-1
01:49:40.376 --> 01:49:40.656
right?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18901-0
01:49:40.656 --> 01:49:45.488
'Cause it's it's a bit unreasonable to
expect you all to tell us, you know,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18901-1
01:49:45.488 --> 01:49:50.638
whether source separated operations in
the state are providing for the recycling

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18901-2
01:49:50.638 --> 01:49:54.707
of certain materials.
But I think the information that would be

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18901-3
01:49:54.707 --> 01:49:55.216
helpful.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18904-0
01:49:55.876 --> 01:49:56.036
Is if.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18925-0
01:49:57.916 --> 01:50:03.413
You can speak to the packaging material
types being included in a commodity that

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18925-1
01:50:03.413 --> 01:50:03.956
is then.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18933-0
01:50:05.636 --> 01:50:07.476
For which that packaging material type.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18958-0
01:50:07.786 --> 01:50:12.281
Is a target material and the target
material definition is in Rule,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18958-1
01:50:12.281 --> 01:50:17.306
so that's what would be very helpful for
technical information supplied by.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/18998-0
01:50:19.776 --> 01:50:24.176
Representatives that are not, you know,
the brokers and the municipalities.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19000-0
01:50:24.296 --> 01:50:27.459
The the municipalities can speak to their
own through put.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19000-1
01:50:27.459 --> 01:50:31.749
That's not what we're asking from you
guys and the brokers can speak to to that

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19000-2
01:50:31.749 --> 01:50:34.912
through put as well.
But that's not what we're asking from

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19000-3
01:50:34.912 --> 01:50:35.556
from produc.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19003-0
01:50:35.736 --> 01:50:36.416
Or branch owners.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19017-0
01:50:39.396 --> 01:50:42.316
We'll go here and then we'll go back, OK?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19023-0
01:50:42.316 --> 01:50:42.796
Hey, guys.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19024-0
01:50:42.796 --> 01:50:43.996
Ryan Carroll. Good morning.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19033-0
01:50:43.996 --> 01:50:46.356
I'm with the American force and paper
association.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19037-0
01:50:46.436 --> 01:50:47.396
I just wanted to.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19040-0
01:50:47.476 --> 01:50:48.676
I think we'd move beyond this.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19044-0
01:50:48.676 --> 01:50:49.796
Or maybe we're moving beyond it.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19085-0
01:50:49.986 --> 01:50:54.391
But I I know that Afba was attributed at
some point with concerns about what

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19085-1
01:50:54.391 --> 01:50:59.025
strength additives and molded fiber and
and trying to get to the bottom of that.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19085-2
01:50:59.025 --> 01:51:03.544
I I think that that comes from a a twenty
twenty one design guide for us where

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19085-3
01:51:03.544 --> 01:51:04.746
distinct minority of.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19094-0
01:51:05.186 --> 01:51:08.586
Male respondents said that that presented
some challenge for them.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19101-0
01:51:08.606 --> 01:51:09.426
Think it was like a third.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19108-0
01:51:10.196 --> 01:51:10.996
Said that, that was there.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19118-0
01:51:10.196 --> 01:51:10.796
Said that, that was.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19120-0
01:51:10.996 --> 01:51:13.476
We are looking to update those numbers
this summer.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19139-0
01:51:10.996 --> 01:51:12.676
We are looking to update those numbers
this.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19141-0
01:51:13.476 --> 01:51:16.364
We're be reaching back out,
but I I don't us to be the hold up.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19141-1
01:51:16.364 --> 01:51:18.756
If there was, you know,
any concerns about you know.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19144-0
01:51:19.016 --> 01:51:19.336
OK.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19147-0
01:51:20.436 --> 01:51:21.396
Being a little tougher to recycle.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19161-0
01:51:21.666 --> 01:51:24.106
If that is even the case,
doesn't mean it's not possible, right?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19164-0
01:51:24.746 --> 01:51:25.266
OK.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19170-0
01:51:25.146 --> 01:51:27.226
And drawing up a distinction there.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19175-0
01:51:27.586 --> 01:51:28.626
We're working towards that.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19195-0
01:51:27.586 --> 01:51:28.346
We're working towards.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19197-0
01:51:28.626 --> 01:51:32.663
I don't know what the timeline is that
we'll have an opportunity to comment

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19197-1
01:51:32.663 --> 01:51:35.266
again once we have pulled our our Members
again.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19208-0
01:51:35.306 --> 01:51:37.318
Yeah,
but that is very that's information that

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19208-1
01:51:37.318 --> 01:51:40.786
we will definitely want because that is
something that we were looking at, yeah.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19216-0
01:51:41.556 --> 01:51:42.596
We understand that you are.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19223-0
01:51:42.406 --> 01:51:44.006
Yeah. OK.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19219-0
01:51:42.596 --> 01:51:42.996
All right.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19225-0
01:51:42.996 --> 01:51:43.396
Thank you.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19231-0
01:51:44.076 --> 01:51:45.556
Thank you very much for that comment.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19255-0
01:51:45.676 --> 01:51:50.800
So several if several of us Victor wanted
again recommend that you add a few things

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19255-1
01:51:50.800 --> 01:51:52.996
to the list like molded pulp or PET.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19272-0
01:51:54.646 --> 01:51:57.864
What do you need from us to make an
informed decision that, yeah,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19272-1
01:51:57.864 --> 01:51:59.766
we should add that or they can't do it?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19282-0
01:52:00.006 --> 01:52:01.206
Look at those three.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19309-0
01:52:01.326 --> 01:52:01.526
So.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19311-0
01:52:01.526 --> 01:52:05.245
That's for the readily recyclable,
but if you if it needs to be added to the

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19311-1
01:52:05.245 --> 01:52:06.646
packaging material types, no.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19301-0
01:52:06.746 --> 01:52:07.666
No, he's talking about.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19313-0
01:52:07.446 --> 01:52:09.606
We're talking about getting those, yes.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19329-0
01:52:09.786 --> 01:52:13.066
Do I have to prove that PE T is
recyclable or the pulp?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19344-0
01:52:13.176 --> 01:52:19.402
I think you want to speak to the markets
and you want to speak to the fact that

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19344-1
01:52:19.402 --> 01:52:23.527
your your,
your brokering this material for X number

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19344-2
01:52:23.527 --> 01:52:26.096
of municipalities and maybe also.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19359-0
01:52:27.606 --> 01:52:34.286
Including their locations would be
helpful, but yeah, that's a good question.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19368-0
01:52:27.606 --> 01:52:33.766
Including their locations would be
helpful, but yeah, that's a good.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19370-0
01:52:34.286 --> 01:52:38.086
That would be helpful from and we can
have more dialogue about that as well.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19374-0
01:52:38.846 --> 01:52:39.406
Yeah.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19401-0
01:52:41.566 --> 01:52:44.843
Just quickly,
I mean a lot of conversation today about

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19401-1
01:52:44.843 --> 01:52:48.240
adding categories,
right and being consistent with other

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19401-2
01:52:48.240 --> 01:52:50.326
states. And I can speak for kasala.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19409-0
01:52:50.606 --> 01:52:55.166
Really nothing here that jumps out at us
from a readily recyclable.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19425-0
01:52:56.886 --> 01:53:00.516
List here,
but is there based on the feedback you

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19425-1
01:53:00.516 --> 01:53:01.606
get here today?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19436-0
01:53:01.646 --> 01:53:04.126
Is there another round of this is there?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19445-0
01:53:04.126 --> 01:53:07.206
This is the informal we will go through
formal rulemaking.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19443-0
01:53:04.756 --> 01:53:05.956
Is there a mass lock?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19474-0
01:53:07.436 --> 01:53:11.556
Where we'll have more comments,
more discussion, I think.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19459-0
01:53:11.216 --> 01:53:11.856
I think we're.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19472-0
01:53:11.216 --> 01:53:11.856
I we're.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19476-0
01:53:11.216 --> 01:53:11.256
I.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19478-0
01:53:11.556 --> 01:53:14.916
We're gonna try to get out another straw,
man.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19480-0
01:53:14.956 --> 01:53:16.716
Another straw man before we go to formal.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19488-0
01:53:16.756 --> 01:53:20.276
Yes, alright,
he goes again David gathering.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19486-0
01:53:20.066 --> 01:53:20.266
Seven.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19490-0
01:53:20.476 --> 01:53:21.556
Yeah, Dave. Dave.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19499-0
01:53:22.406 --> 01:53:22.726
Follow up.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19494-0
01:53:22.416 --> 01:53:23.016
'Cause. I'll just.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19519-0
01:53:24.366 --> 01:53:26.789
Process questions.
So we've got this form and we also know

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19519-1
01:53:26.789 --> 01:53:28.926
you want comments by the end of the month,
I think.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19528-0
01:53:28.926 --> 01:53:30.938
Yeah.
So that is a very important thing to

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19528-1
01:53:30.938 --> 01:53:31.406
highlight.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19537-0
01:53:31.806 --> 01:53:33.686
Thirtieth is our deadline for comments.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19539-0
01:53:33.726 --> 01:53:35.886
You can submit comments via the form.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19544-0
01:53:35.926 --> 01:53:37.086
You can also.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19552-0
01:53:37.516 --> 01:53:38.996
Just e-mail them to us.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19559-0
01:53:39.716 --> 01:53:41.796
Yeah, so written comments can come in.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19568-0
01:53:41.916 --> 01:53:46.356
The last question on the form for formal
written comments and then.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19588-0
01:53:48.326 --> 01:53:51.641
Alternatively,
you could e-mail us your comments if you

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19588-1
01:53:51.641 --> 01:53:54.246
want to like send attachments or
something.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19598-0
01:53:54.526 --> 01:53:58.326
We'll make it next year or this year this
year.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19601-0
01:53:56.846 --> 01:53:59.646
This summer. OK, so it's pretty soon.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19607-0
01:54:00.246 --> 01:54:03.126
Yeah, it wasn't predatory requirement.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19611-0
01:54:06.416 --> 01:54:07.216
Yeah, I think it's.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19643-0
01:54:09.156 --> 01:54:12.196
Two hundred and seventy days? Yeah.
More question on.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19623-0
01:54:11.936 --> 01:54:12.576
Can we?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19645-0
01:54:12.196 --> 01:54:16.770
That will you allow someone to do an
interview with you so you can get in

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19645-1
01:54:16.770 --> 01:54:18.316
depth with it, like zoom.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19671-0
01:54:17.086 --> 01:54:21.206
Dave, no, no, no request for interviews.
Go through Dave medore.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19673-0
01:54:21.246 --> 01:54:23.326
An interview? Yes, but if a meeting?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19676-0
01:54:24.006 --> 01:54:26.886
To a meeting. Yes. No. Yeah, not.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19666-0
01:54:24.736 --> 01:54:26.536
Not not pressed, not pressed.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19678-0
01:54:26.886 --> 01:54:27.926
A press related but.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19697-0
01:54:27.576 --> 01:54:29.860
No,
I'm just saying some of this stuff is a

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19697-1
01:54:29.860 --> 01:54:32.974
more dynamic conversation.
And so meeting with someone like

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19697-2
01:54:32.974 --> 01:54:35.310
Christopher,
who's an expert in this online,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19697-3
01:54:35.310 --> 01:54:36.816
you can record it. It's fine.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19719-0
01:54:37.096 --> 01:54:41.584
So long as it happens before we initiate
a formal rulemaking process, yes,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19719-1
01:54:41.584 --> 01:54:44.936
we are available to meet and we don't
expect any given.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19723-0
01:54:45.256 --> 01:54:46.656
Just dropped on that.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19743-0
01:54:46.856 --> 01:54:51.583
We're gonna do another rendition of the
of the draft before and going into the

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19743-1
01:54:51.583 --> 01:54:54.336
formal rulemaking that will probably even
in.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19747-0
01:54:54.376 --> 01:54:56.256
Yeah,
it will make for most time for meeting.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19749-0
01:54:54.976 --> 01:54:56.696
So we'll have. OK, great.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19751-0
01:54:56.776 --> 01:54:57.136
Yep.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19758-0
01:55:00.976 --> 01:55:02.856
We have another question online.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19756-0
01:55:01.756 --> 01:55:02.116
Yeah.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19761-0
01:55:04.226 --> 01:55:04.666
Thank you.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19771-0
01:55:07.696 --> 01:55:08.536
You have ten more minutes.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19769-0
01:55:08.238 --> 01:55:08.838
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>Yes, thank you.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19780-0
01:55:08.838 --> 01:55:11.398
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>This is Alicia Cafferty from Vfh home
appliances.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19784-0
01:55:11.398 --> 01:55:13.278
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>Again, I had a question.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19792-0
01:55:14.158 --> 01:55:15.678
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>I don't think it's been asked yet.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19805-0
01:55:16.278 --> 01:55:20.502
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>Do you foresee that there'll be a
classification for plastic destined for</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19805-1
01:55:20.502 --> 01:55:21.358
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>compostability?</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19815-0
01:55:22.798 --> 01:55:23.718
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>Or other new materials.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19830-0
01:55:23.718 --> 01:55:28.604
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>We're anticipating that the EPR programs
across the US will start driving more</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19830-1
01:55:28.604 --> 01:55:30.398
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>innovation and new materials.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19843-0
01:55:32.118 --> 01:55:35.271
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>And we're wondering if this will be able
to be captured either now or in the</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19843-1
01:55:35.271 --> 01:55:35.558
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>future.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19855-0
01:55:36.786 --> 01:55:39.980
Yes,
that is something that we have talked

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19855-1
01:55:39.980 --> 01:55:41.986
about internally is adding.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19860-0
01:55:43.366 --> 01:55:44.446
A compostable.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19867-0
01:55:47.116 --> 01:55:48.396
Number seven PS.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19873-0
01:55:48.296 --> 01:55:50.896
Right now it is captured and it is
captured.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19894-0
01:55:48.296 --> 01:55:50.056
Right now it is captured and it is.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19896-0
01:55:50.796 --> 01:55:56.556
It's just it doesn't have a a compostable
designation, but that's.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19883-0
01:55:56.468 --> 01:55:56.988
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>Can you?</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19897-0
01:55:56.988 --> 01:55:59.308
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>Can you can you point me to how it's
already represented?</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19900-0
01:55:59.308 --> 01:56:01.268
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>The what? What line item is that?</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19915-0
01:56:01.876 --> 01:56:07.581
In the on the second page,
the base material mixed resin number

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19915-1
01:56:07.581 --> 01:56:08.116
seven.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19913-0
01:56:08.408 --> 01:56:08.888
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>OK.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19917-0
01:56:09.008 --> 01:56:09.408
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>Got it.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19926-0
01:56:09.816 --> 01:56:12.376
Be the composite form. The first one,
yeah.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19925-0
01:56:12.928 --> 01:56:13.968
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>Composite. OK.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19928-0
01:56:14.048 --> 01:56:14.808
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>Thank you.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19946-0
01:56:14.886 --> 01:56:19.911
But it is something that we are talking
internally about because of the

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19946-1
01:56:19.911 --> 01:56:21.726
compostable plastic forms.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19961-0
01:56:22.266 --> 01:56:26.906
I'm trying to and also too in response.
Yes, because every year we.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19970-0
01:56:26.296 --> 01:56:31.056
Every year we will be reviewing the list
and seeing if it needs changes.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19989-0
01:56:30.526 --> 01:56:35.217
We anticipate in this driving us and
other states driving innovation.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/19989-1
01:56:35.217 --> 01:56:38.166
So that's why the yearly review was put
in.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20001-0
01:56:39.438 --> 01:56:42.673
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>Well, part of it, as you know,
speaking again as a producer or</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20001-1
01:56:42.673 --> 01:56:43.598
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>manufacturer that.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20016-0
01:56:46.478 --> 01:56:49.598
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>It's maybe troubling for us if we don't
see it on the list now.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20023-0
01:56:51.358 --> 01:56:53.558
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>And we're going that direction already.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20040-0
01:56:55.238 --> 01:56:59.592
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>It'd be nice if we were aligned, you know,
earlier on rather than later. But I I,</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20040-1
01:56:59.592 --> 01:57:01.238
<v Cafferty Alicia (BSH_GCM-NA)>I also probably see your point.</v>

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20058-0
01:57:02.236 --> 01:57:06.843
Feel free to send us information about
that as well if if if that's something

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20058-1
01:57:06.843 --> 01:57:08.556
that you are concerned about.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20067-0
01:57:11.596 --> 01:57:12.076
OK.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20075-0
01:57:12.076 --> 01:57:16.276
We have seven more minutes for the
allocated meeting time.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20080-0
01:57:16.356 --> 01:57:18.436
There anything else that we want to?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20083-0
01:57:20.086 --> 01:57:21.406
Get in about.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20096-0
01:57:22.396 --> 01:57:24.676
Either required to track or.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20098-0
01:57:24.676 --> 01:57:26.116
We weren't actually supposed to have
check.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20101-0
01:57:28.786 --> 01:57:29.306
Going to sleep.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20104-0
01:57:29.306 --> 01:57:30.146
There's a lot of there.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20109-0
01:57:32.236 --> 01:57:33.756
'S a lot.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20113-0
01:57:38.876 --> 01:57:40.276
It's not necessarily.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20118-0
01:57:40.796 --> 01:57:42.756
On the program page.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20122-0
01:57:42.366 --> 01:57:43.846
The program page, yeah.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20124-0
01:57:44.586 --> 01:57:45.306
All right.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20127-0
01:57:48.616 --> 01:57:49.016
This.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20132-0
01:57:50.946 --> 01:57:51.866
This is.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20140-0
01:57:51.206 --> 01:57:55.457
Yeah, I guess last yeah,
is there any other comments, questions,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20140-1
01:57:55.457 --> 01:57:56.766
concerns? Yeah, one.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20147-0
01:57:56.986 --> 01:57:59.106
I'm sorry, just no way.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20157-0
01:57:56.986 --> 01:57:58.266
I'm sorry. Just.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20158-0
01:57:58.826 --> 01:58:01.146
And we've been belaboring molded pulp.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20159-0
01:58:01.226 --> 01:58:02.026
And wood and.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20195-0
01:58:03.496 --> 01:58:04.896
It's important to maintain.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20196-0
01:58:05.376 --> 01:58:09.912
So I it is very important to me and and
Alicia just made a comment about how EPR

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20196-1
01:58:09.912 --> 01:58:12.824
laws are starting to drive innovation in
packaging,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20196-2
01:58:12.824 --> 01:58:14.616
which is kind of why we're here.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20191-0
01:58:14.426 --> 01:58:14.586
OK.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20202-0
01:58:15.176 --> 01:58:16.816
That's incredibly important to Maine.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20211-0
01:58:15.176 --> 01:58:16.496
That's incredibly important to.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20212-0
01:58:16.816 --> 01:58:20.616
Maine is a huge resource of wood pulp
fiber.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20221-0
01:58:16.816 --> 01:58:19.856
Maine is a huge resource of wood pulp.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20223-0
01:58:20.616 --> 01:58:23.622
Absolutely. In fact,
it's actually a huge challenge in the

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20223-1
01:58:23.622 --> 01:58:24.336
forest indust.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20230-0
01:58:24.546 --> 01:58:26.706
Mean what do we do with the pulp?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20240-0
01:58:26.826 --> 01:58:28.746
Maybe 'cause we're using less paper,
right?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20257-0
01:58:29.026 --> 01:58:32.363
On the flip side,
have you guys heard of microplastics?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20257-1
01:58:32.363 --> 01:58:34.986
Right. Like,
this is gonna be a huge issue.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20263-0
01:58:35.426 --> 01:58:36.986
People don't want plastic anymore.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20286-0
01:58:35.426 --> 01:58:36.586
People don't want plastic.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20288-0
01:58:36.986 --> 01:58:40.020
I'm sorry for plastic people paying
attention to this,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20288-1
01:58:40.020 --> 01:58:44.544
but there's a huge opportunity for Maine
to be a big part of the solution to this

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20288-2
01:58:44.544 --> 01:58:44.986
problem.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20304-0
01:58:45.676 --> 01:58:47.756
So it's really important that we.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20306-0
01:58:47.756 --> 01:58:48.316
Don't.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20302-0
01:58:48.486 --> 01:58:50.686
Absolutely, absolutely.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20308-0
01:58:48.516 --> 01:58:50.076
Kill the baby in the crib here.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20335-0
01:58:50.686 --> 01:58:55.904
And that's why this is the the draft list
we brought you in to to make these

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20335-1
01:58:55.904 --> 01:59:01.325
comments now so that we can make sure
that we are covering all the bases and we

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20335-2
01:59:01.325 --> 01:59:02.206
are you know.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20344-0
01:59:02.626 --> 01:59:03.666
I have a question.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20348-0
01:59:04.306 --> 01:59:05.506
Is this another hand up?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20372-0
01:59:05.486 --> 01:59:07.326
On the expressions for the.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20353-0
01:59:05.866 --> 01:59:06.906
I have a question.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20374-0
01:59:07.726 --> 01:59:13.005
Other crown. I'm just curious 'cause it's.
It was brought up that Oregon did not

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20374-1
01:59:13.005 --> 01:59:15.286
designate molded paper as recycled.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20379-0
01:59:15.286 --> 01:59:16.246
They did as recyclable.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20392-0
01:59:15.286 --> 01:59:15.446
They did as.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20393-0
01:59:16.246 --> 01:59:20.370
They did not designate it as compostable
because they don't include composting at

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20393-1
01:59:20.370 --> 01:59:21.326
all in the program.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20390-0
01:59:21.216 --> 01:59:21.376
OK.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20397-0
01:59:21.606 --> 01:59:22.686
Yeah, it's right over.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20412-0
01:59:23.726 --> 01:59:29.286
They separated flower pots and food grade,
potentially because they don't compost.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20425-0
01:59:29.766 --> 01:59:32.246
It would contain contaminate the
recycling stream.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20430-0
01:59:29.766 --> 01:59:31.726
It would contain contaminate the
recycling.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20419-0
01:59:30.296 --> 01:59:32.496
And why I would?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20432-0
01:59:32.246 --> 01:59:35.486
But there's two other categories from all
the polls that are.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20438-0
01:59:35.836 --> 01:59:36.196
Readily.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20451-0
01:59:36.576 --> 01:59:39.529
So we sorry, no,
I think that you might wanna they

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20451-1
01:59:39.529 --> 01:59:42.136
separated it from compostable or
recyclable.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20461-0
01:59:42.426 --> 01:59:44.506
So they don't do the reef.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20483-0
01:59:42.426 --> 01:59:43.466
So they don't.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20459-0
01:59:42.496 --> 01:59:43.576
Nursery pots.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20485-0
01:59:43.976 --> 01:59:48.636
The reason I assume that Oregon has a
third molded pulp category that

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20485-1
01:59:48.636 --> 01:59:53.563
California doesn't is because Oregon
doesn't consider composting in their

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20485-2
01:59:53.563 --> 01:59:54.096
program.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20492-0
01:59:54.676 --> 01:59:55.956
California does so if you have.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20513-0
01:59:57.516 --> 02:00:01.088
A flower pot that is contaminated with
soil or food or something that's been in

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20513-1
02:00:01.088 --> 02:00:03.276
contact with food that has food particles
on it.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20516-0
02:00:03.556 --> 02:00:04.476
Can compost it.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20529-0
02:00:05.026 --> 02:00:06.346
So that Saint.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20556-0
02:00:05.026 --> 02:00:06.146
So that.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20531-0
02:00:06.036 --> 02:00:06.636
It's out there.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20557-0
02:00:06.346 --> 02:00:11.862
Pompous in California 's program that way.
But Oregon doesn't consider composting,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20557-1
02:00:11.862 --> 02:00:16.980
so they have a third molded pulp category
for those contaminated molded pulp

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20557-2
02:00:16.980 --> 02:00:19.706
products that is not recyclable, however.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20578-0
02:00:20.476 --> 02:00:23.396
They have two molded pulp categories that
are.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20571-0
02:00:23.426 --> 02:00:23.986
OK.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20580-0
02:00:23.676 --> 02:00:25.276
I I think I know why they're doing that.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20603-0
02:00:23.676 --> 02:00:24.956
I I think I know why they're doing.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20605-0
02:00:25.276 --> 02:00:29.783
So I'm with tambark molded fiber.
Luke 's lobster is using our products and

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20605-1
02:00:29.783 --> 02:00:33.756
part of the reason they're doing that is
because in the Northwest.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20647-0
02:00:33.986 --> 02:00:38.334
They started to run into situations where
they needed to have compostable packaging

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20647-1
02:00:38.334 --> 02:00:41.595
or they got taxed and I don't think it's
part of the EPR laws,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20647-2
02:00:41.595 --> 02:00:45.736
but it might be that they're designating
that because they're going to do it in

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20647-3
02:00:45.736 --> 02:00:48.066
the future and our products don't even
need.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20655-0
02:00:48.086 --> 02:00:50.786
Be certified as compostable because
they're considered.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20662-0
02:00:51.516 --> 02:00:52.596
So easily compostable.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20680-0
02:00:51.516 --> 02:00:51.836
So easily.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20681-0
02:00:52.596 --> 02:00:56.296
So Lux is using our products in the
Northwest and municipalities that are

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20681-1
02:00:56.296 --> 02:00:58.996
demanding that restaurants use
compostable packaging.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20683-0
02:00:59.196 --> 02:01:00.036
Yeah, I don't.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20687-0
02:01:00.036 --> 02:01:00.276
I don't.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20689-0
02:01:00.276 --> 02:01:02.316
There's much like left to.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20692-0
02:01:04.156 --> 02:01:04.396
Like.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20705-0
02:01:04.946 --> 02:01:07.946
Go back and forth about regarding the
compostability.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20716-0
02:01:07.856 --> 02:01:11.056
I'm just saying I think that's why they
have that category called out.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20710-0
02:01:08.146 --> 02:01:09.386
Just gonna, yeah.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20715-0
02:01:08.386 --> 02:01:09.386
Gonna. Yeah.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20731-0
02:01:10.966 --> 02:01:16.367
But my question is so is is California
recycling molded paper that has made

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20731-1
02:01:16.367 --> 02:01:18.286
contact with soil and food?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20739-0
02:01:19.756 --> 02:01:21.676
They they don't have a separate category
for that.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20755-0
02:01:19.756 --> 02:01:21.436
They they don't have a separate category
for.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20757-0
02:01:21.676 --> 02:01:26.764
They have molded fiber with plastic and
they have molded fiber without plastic or

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20757-1
02:01:26.764 --> 02:01:28.316
California 's categories.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20770-0
02:01:28.476 --> 02:01:31.556
Are both readily recyclable.
They're both compostable. OK.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20773-0
02:01:32.276 --> 02:01:32.836
It would be.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20789-0
02:01:33.676 --> 02:01:36.485
And it's on,
I think page five of the comments,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20789-1
02:01:36.485 --> 02:01:39.996
I I I broke everything out by California
standards because.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20802-0
02:01:40.146 --> 02:01:43.986
California standards, frankly,
are more clear to me than Maine 's so.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20804-0
02:01:44.986 --> 02:01:45.466
Yeah, Susan.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20827-0
02:01:47.276 --> 02:01:47.876
Yep, Susan I.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20829-0
02:01:47.876 --> 02:01:51.703
Think logically speaking,
if we had a contaminated category for

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20845-0
02:01:47.876 --> 02:01:51.743
Think logically speaking,
if we had a contaminated category for

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20829-1
02:01:51.703 --> 02:01:54.036
every material, it would be ridiculous.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20845-1
02:01:51.743 --> 02:01:53.436
every material, it would be.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20847-0
02:01:54.036 --> 02:01:57.394
So I mean,
that's just part of the education and

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20847-1
02:01:57.394 --> 02:02:01.574
outreach, you know,
element of the program that you know you

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20847-2
02:02:01.574 --> 02:02:03.836
don't throw soiled material into.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20865-0
02:02:05.316 --> 02:02:06.596
Those piping streams well.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20867-0
02:02:06.596 --> 02:02:09.836
Then contaminated is not necessarily
going to be something that you'll know.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20893-0
02:02:10.786 --> 02:02:13.803
Ahead of time.
So we don't want producers after report

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20893-1
02:02:13.803 --> 02:02:16.546
on whether or not their material is
contaminated.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20895-0
02:02:16.546 --> 02:02:18.426
But that's important to distinguish,
right?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20912-0
02:02:16.546 --> 02:02:18.226
But that's important to distinguish.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20914-0
02:02:18.426 --> 02:02:22.528
You're saying you don't throw soiled
molded paper in your recycling stream,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20914-1
02:02:22.528 --> 02:02:22.906
and so.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20916-0
02:02:22.906 --> 02:02:23.506
We glass.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20918-0
02:02:23.986 --> 02:02:25.506
Into your recycling paper.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20920-0
02:02:24.456 --> 02:02:25.056
Exactly.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20931-0
02:02:26.436 --> 02:02:28.036
Plastic. I think it's not the same.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20946-0
02:02:28.076 --> 02:02:33.643
It's my understanding it's not the same
for soiled glass going into, yeah,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20948-0
02:02:31.836 --> 02:02:34.316
That, that,
that can be washed with thirty.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20946-1
02:02:33.643 --> 02:02:35.276
but but just stick it.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20951-0
02:02:35.316 --> 02:02:37.276
Just wanted to clear up my.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/20962-0
02:02:37.826 --> 02:02:40.146
Just an understanding for myself is just.

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And I understand that molded paper is
made both for food contact and not food

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02:02:44.694 --> 02:02:44.996
contact.

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02:02:45.196 --> 02:02:49.996
In the instances where the molded paper
is making food, has contact with food.

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02:02:51.676 --> 02:02:54.796
It's being said that it's advised not to
go in the recycling stream.

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02:02:55.256 --> 02:02:57.456
Are you advising that for all paper
products?

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02:02:58.086 --> 02:02:59.446
That's I think that's like a question.

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02:02:58.416 --> 02:02:58.456
I.

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02:02:59.056 --> 02:02:59.096
A.

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02:02:59.096 --> 02:03:01.136
Pizza box like a pizza box or.

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02:03:00.956 --> 02:03:02.316
Yeah. No, that's a good. Yeah. OK.

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02:03:02.476 --> 02:03:04.846
So then right,
if it's going to be looked at for molded

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02:03:02.596 --> 02:03:04.916
Do you need to classify it, let's say?

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02:03:04.846 --> 02:03:06.836
paper,
then it would need to be looked at for.

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02:03:05.596 --> 02:03:05.836
Info.

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02:03:06.196 --> 02:03:06.356
To.

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02:03:06.636 --> 02:03:11.476
And like again with Luke 's part of our
products are food, so some aren't.

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02:03:06.636 --> 02:03:11.196
And like again with Luke 's part of our
products are food, so some.

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02:03:11.476 --> 02:03:15.527
They're containing other things that are
not food soiled, so there's a lot of,

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/21088-1
02:03:15.527 --> 02:03:17.476
I think, that consumer needs to kinda.

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02:03:17.936 --> 02:03:18.376
I don't know.

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02:03:18.206 --> 02:03:21.366
I don't know if that right is that
consumer education or is that right?

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02:03:20.036 --> 02:03:20.596
Yeah.

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02:03:21.646 --> 02:03:22.326
Great. OK. Thanks.

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That's all.

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02:03:22.846 --> 02:03:24.166
I just wanted to clear that up. Great.

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02:03:26.966 --> 02:03:29.583
Well,
I think we have one more question online

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02:03:29.583 --> 02:03:31.366
and then we will likely be done.

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02:03:31.956 --> 02:03:36.031
For today,
and we'll take that question and then the

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02:03:36.031 --> 02:03:40.876
recording for this meeting will be posted
on our program page.

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02:03:43.726 --> 02:03:43.886
And.

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02:03:43.936 --> 02:03:46.936
Any e-mail out to the list once it's
available.

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02:03:46.836 --> 02:03:47.156
Yeah.

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02:03:46.976 --> 02:03:49.680
Yes,
we'll send an e-mail out to our our list

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02:03:49.680 --> 02:03:50.856
once it's available.

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02:03:51.136 --> 02:03:51.416
What is?

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02:03:51.416 --> 02:03:51.736
It called.

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02:03:52.416 --> 02:03:53.576
The stakeholder list.

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02:03:53.036 --> 02:03:53.916
Stakeholder list.

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02:03:53.636 --> 02:03:53.916
List.

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02:03:53.916 --> 02:03:54.796
Yeah, something like that.

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02:03:56.406 --> 02:03:56.846
And then.

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02:03:58.566 --> 02:03:59.726
Again comments.

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02:03:59.726 --> 02:04:01.366
What's this question? Let's get to it.

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02:04:00.856 --> 02:04:01.696
Let's get to it.

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02:04:01.616 --> 02:04:01.696
It.

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02:04:02.248 --> 02:04:04.736
<v Lee, Amy>Hi yeah,
I was just going to ask like there are</v>

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02:04:04.736 --> 02:04:08.728
<v Lee, Amy>actually several questions in the chat,
not all of them have been addressed.</v>

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02:04:08.728 --> 02:04:12.971
<v Lee, Amy>So are you going to respond to those by
e-mail or on your website?</v>

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02:04:12.971 --> 02:04:17.848
<v Lee, Amy>And then also I registered for this
through one of our industry association.</v>

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02:04:17.848 --> 02:04:21.883
<v Lee, Amy>So is there a separate stakeholder list
or everyone that registered will get the</v>

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02:04:21.883 --> 02:04:23.128
<v Lee, Amy>following communications?</v>

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02:04:23.128 --> 02:04:26.241
<v Lee, Amy>But again, like first of all,
how will you address the questions in the</v>

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02:04:26.241 --> 02:04:29.398
<v Lee, Amy>chat and then how do we get on the
stakeholders list for future updates?</v>

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02:04:31.406 --> 02:04:34.466
Yeah,
perhaps the questions can be answered and

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02:04:34.466 --> 02:04:39.374
be appended to the new draft list just
because it sounds like we're going to

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02:04:39.374 --> 02:04:41.606
need some turn around time on that.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/21316-0
02:04:41.886 --> 02:04:43.486
A significant number of questions.

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02:04:43.606 --> 02:04:44.886
That the case.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/21335-0
02:04:45.166 --> 02:04:49.166
So we'll provide answers to those
questions along with a revised list.

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02:04:49.606 --> 02:04:52.286
Maybe in a little bit of time and then?

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02:04:52.476 --> 02:04:57.207
We will also the stakeholder list was is
a separate list from the registrant list

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02:04:57.207 --> 02:04:58.996
that was made for this meeting.

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/21371-0
02:04:59.596 --> 02:05:02.556
If you haven't yet added yourself onto
that stakeholder list.

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02:05:05.086 --> 02:05:08.689
Can you put that e-mail,
e-mail this web this e-mail address

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02:05:08.689 --> 02:05:11.406
please and request that you're added to
that?

f710c8af-437a-4ff3-83db-82888a217a89/21400-0
02:05:11.406 --> 02:05:13.726
List and that e-mail on the website
somewhere.

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02:05:13.726 --> 02:05:16.006
For yes, it's also on our program page.

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02:05:15.886 --> 02:05:17.446
So it's also on the program page.

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02:05:15.886 --> 02:05:17.126
So it's also on the program.

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02:05:17.446 --> 02:05:19.686
You can go in and use that to register.

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02:05:19.726 --> 02:05:21.926
It's also on the registration link.

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02:05:23.436 --> 02:05:23.996
Thank you.

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02:05:24.138 --> 02:05:24.738
<v Lee, Amy>OK.</v>

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Thank you everybody.

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02:05:26.118 --> 02:05:26.758
<v Lee, Amy>All right. Thanks.</v>

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02:05:28.036 --> 02:05:28.156
Yep.

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02:05:29.716 --> 02:05:30.596
Thank you very much.

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02:05:29.876 --> 02:05:32.596
I will upgrade.

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02:05:31.196 --> 02:05:33.076
Yep. Thank you. No.

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Thank you.