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<v Hafner, Courtney>Hello everybody.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Please make sure your computer were muted.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>There we go.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>So thank you for coming to Maine's
battery management plan update.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>We're gonna give everyone a few more
minutes to join in.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Please make sure that your cameras are
off and that your computer is muted.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>We will be going through our discussion
and if you have anything you'd like to</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>add,
please raise your hand first before</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>adding to discussion.
We'll get started in the next few minutes.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Thank you.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>And tilt that little portion right away,
all right.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Hello everyone,
can I just get a thumbs up from somebody</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>online to if they can hear us?</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Perfect. Thank you, Amanda.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Well,
I want to thank everyone for attending</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>the 1st of.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>The main department of viral protections.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Stakeholder meetings regarding.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Updating Maine's battery.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Stewardship program.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>This is gonna be the first of two
meetings and.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>There's.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>2/3 of us,
three of us had to think there was three</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>of us from the department.
I'll let ourselves introduce each other</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>first,
and then I'll start with some opening</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>remarks.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>I'm Brian benesky.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>I'm head of the sustainability unit here
in the department,</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>which overseas all of the product
stewardship and recycling programs.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Which includes the battery program,
but also includes the programs such as</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>the Bottle Redemption Program,
our packaging program and such.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>And I'll let Rob introduce himself and my
name is Robert Burks.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>I work under Brian.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>I had a pharmaceutical program and also
worked with solar panels.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>And and wind turbine blades.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Just the OIT guys.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Wanna make sure you guys get it?</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Yeah, yeah, yeah.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>So we're just working off of the computer.
Yep. OK, thanks.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Thank you. Thank you.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>But also wind turbine blades and battery
issues as well.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>So.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>And I am Courtney Hafner.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>I work in the sustainability unit under
multiple product products steward</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>programs,
including that of the rechargeable</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>battery.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>This was going to move that shots.
Maybe talk, yeah.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>So just due to some technical
difficulties.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Our our technology here in the office
room, is it quite functioning up to par.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>So we we aren't unable to use our.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Camera.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>From the video room itself,
we have to use a camera from the one of</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>our laptops here, but we can see everyone.
You'll see us.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>We're all looking up at one of the big
TV's on the screen.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>We can see everyone up there.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Great.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>So again, just to start us off.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>And there's actually 1235 of us 55 other
attendees here.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>In the.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>In the room as well.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>So yeah, so.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>This is the first of the stakeholder
meetings to kind of solicit input into.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Changes to main.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Tain this is the the second the second
meeting is scheduled for September 4th.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>And if I hope everyone had a chance to
see it, but we did put, put,</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>put up a background document that we hope
people.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Were able to read before attending the
meeting.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>It provided an overview of Maine's
current battery program law.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>And I'm not going to provide a synopsis
of the of the current law other than to</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>say it's been in place for several
decades now and.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>It only addresses recycled batteries of
certain chemistries. It does.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>It is out of date and.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>So one of the things what we're looking
for is is input on where and how we</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>should.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Update it and increase.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Products in the program.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Also on the on the stakeholder
stakeholder document,</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>we put some questions for discussion,
which we can start with.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>But I don't want us to be limited to
those.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Those questions,
if others have any other items they wish</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>to discuss,
like just kind of be considered an open</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>forum to hear from people and and discuss
back and forth.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>The different ideas that we'll hear today
and then with the idea that in the second</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>meeting,
we'll try to summarize what we've heard</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>and maybe even Purdue provide for the
meeting some a bit of a straw man</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>document for what we're looking for.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>And there we have.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>In addition to the in people in house,
we have 34 attending.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Online,
so I don't think it given the numbers,</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>I don't think it's useful to go around
and have everyone introduce themselves.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>But if you do participate,
please identify yourself in any</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>organization you are with.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>And I will stop right there and ask if
anyone.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Wants to make a statement to begin with.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Jennifer.</v>

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<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>Hi there, Jennifer Dapolonio main DEP.
I'm with the hazardous waste management</v>

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<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>unit.</v>

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<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>Not a comment right this moment,
but I wanted to ask if you would throw</v>

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<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>the link to that document you had
previously posted up somewhere in the</v>

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<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>chat.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Sure. We will see if we can do that.</v>

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<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>Thank you.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>It was available on the website.</v>

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<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>I think I've looked at it before,
but I've I've looked at so many documents</v>

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<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>in the past week I need to put my eyes on
it again.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>OK.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>We'll try a little link for that.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>I have that.</v>

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<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>Thank you.</v>

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00:10:11.106 --> 00:10:11.626
<v Hafner, Courtney>One second.</v>

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00:10:13.746 --> 00:10:16.186
<v Hafner, Courtney>That was the one document I did not have
up.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1205-0
00:10:34.566 --> 00:10:35.726
<v Hafner, Courtney>How the chat's turned off.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1208-0
00:10:36.646 --> 00:10:37.366
<v Hafner, Courtney>Yeah, king.</v>

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00:10:37.486 --> 00:10:40.206
<v Hafner, Courtney>Chat is turned off the moment they'd have
to go back to their.</v>

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00:10:41.666 --> 00:10:41.746
<v Hafner, Courtney>Uh.</v>

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00:10:44.816 --> 00:10:44.896
<v Hafner, Courtney>Oh.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1221-0
00:10:47.816 --> 00:10:49.216
<v Hafner, Courtney>Yeah, we have to tell them there.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1236-0
00:10:50.836 --> 00:10:54.456
<v Hafner, Courtney>Yeah. So as of right now,
our chat is turned off just for this</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1236-1
00:10:54.456 --> 00:10:54.916
<v Hafner, Courtney>meeting.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1253-0
00:10:55.676 --> 00:11:00.750
<v Hafner, Courtney>People would probably have to go back to
our main DEP site with the batteries.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1253-1
00:11:00.750 --> 00:11:02.676
<v Hafner, Courtney>It was also in the invitation.</v>

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00:11:02.676 --> 00:11:07.676
<v Hafner, Courtney>It is underneath the registration button
so OK.</v>

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00:11:09.316 --> 00:11:09.436
<v Hafner, Courtney>Yep.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1263-0
00:11:11.066 --> 00:11:11.746
<v Hafner, Courtney>Andy.</v>

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00:11:12.826 --> 00:11:13.786
<v Andy Hackman>Yeah. Thanks, Brian.</v>

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00:11:14.226 --> 00:11:15.866
<v Andy Hackman>Just maybe a question.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1280-0
00:11:15.866 --> 00:11:18.626
<v Andy Hackman>I know you mentioned the the battery laws
outdated.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1305-0
00:11:20.116 --> 00:11:24.019
<v Andy Hackman>Obviously it hasn't had reform,
but in terms of the department looking</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1305-1
00:11:24.019 --> 00:11:26.877
<v Andy Hackman>into this,
is the department going to be sponsoring</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1305-2
00:11:26.877 --> 00:11:28.636
<v Andy Hackman>legislation in the next session?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1338-0
00:11:28.956 --> 00:11:33.360
<v Andy Hackman>Where is sort of the interest in in sort
of the reform and and where are we headed</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1338-1
00:11:33.360 --> 00:11:36.809
<v Andy Hackman>with the stakeholders?
Discussions are is the department putting</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1338-2
00:11:36.809 --> 00:11:40.788
<v Andy Hackman>a bill in and should we be focused on
thinking about it from a legislative</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1338-3
00:11:40.788 --> 00:11:41.796
<v Andy Hackman>change perspective?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1345-0
00:11:42.106 --> 00:11:44.106
<v Andy Hackman>Are you thinking about regulatory change?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1348-0
00:11:44.106 --> 00:11:45.346
<v Andy Hackman>Just help help us.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1355-0
00:11:45.346 --> 00:11:46.546
<v Andy Hackman>Maybe understand a little bit more.</v>

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00:11:46.546 --> 00:11:50.227
<v Andy Hackman>I know the questions sort of talked about
specific policy areas,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1387-1
00:11:50.227 --> 00:11:54.473
<v Andy Hackman>but but are we headed towards, you know,
working together to try to get to</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1387-2
00:11:54.473 --> 00:11:58.777
<v Andy Hackman>consensus on legislative language or or
you know what other avenues are you</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1387-3
00:11:58.777 --> 00:11:59.626
<v Andy Hackman>thinking about?</v>

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00:12:00.106 --> 00:12:04.146
<v Hafner, Courtney>Yeah. So the background on on that is.</v>

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00:12:06.156 --> 00:12:06.636
<v Hafner, Courtney>In in the.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1422-0
00:12:09.196 --> 00:12:14.604
<v Hafner, Courtney>Last year's or actually, I should say,
this year's product stewardship report we</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1422-1
00:12:14.604 --> 00:12:18.076
<v Hafner, Courtney>had proposed doing a review of the
battery program.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1437-0
00:12:20.626 --> 00:12:24.276
<v Hafner, Courtney>And proposing some legislation,
some language,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1437-1
00:12:24.276 --> 00:12:27.226
<v Hafner, Courtney>for legislation to update the program.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1457-0
00:12:28.676 --> 00:12:33.640
<v Hafner, Courtney>Based on input we hear from these
stakeholder meetings and additionally,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1457-1
00:12:33.640 --> 00:12:35.476
<v Hafner, Courtney>I unfortunately don't know.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1481-0
00:12:35.796 --> 00:12:41.420
<v Hafner, Courtney>I can't remember the name of of the
number of Senator Bennett's bill, but we,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1481-1
00:12:41.420 --> 00:12:47.476
<v Hafner, Courtney>Senator Bennett introduced a bill in this
past legislative session which basically.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1487-0
00:12:49.196 --> 00:12:50.836
<v Hafner, Courtney>Directed the department to.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1506-0
00:12:52.236 --> 00:12:58.181
<v Hafner, Courtney>Do exactly what we're doing,
which is convened a couple of stakeholder</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1506-1
00:12:58.181 --> 00:13:02.116
<v Hafner, Courtney>meetings to look into updating and
increasing.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1529-0
00:13:04.516 --> 00:13:11.160
<v Hafner, Courtney>The and look into adding other other
types of batteries into the program,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1529-1
00:13:11.160 --> 00:13:16.636
<v Hafner, Courtney>and it also looked wanted us to look at
adding specifically.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1536-0
00:13:18.276 --> 00:13:20.116
<v Hafner, Courtney>I'll call them vape vape pens.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1549-0
00:13:20.786 --> 00:13:24.586
<v Hafner, Courtney>And their viability and putting them in
the in the program as well.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1591-0
00:13:24.626 --> 00:13:28.513
<v Hafner, Courtney>So it's kind of a,
it's been directed by both our own,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1591-1
00:13:28.513 --> 00:13:32.895
<v Hafner, Courtney>the department kind of going down to
solicit input into what,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1591-2
00:13:32.895 --> 00:13:38.337
<v Hafner, Courtney>what's what's what are thoughts for
updating the the current battery program</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1591-3
00:13:38.337 --> 00:13:43.426
<v Hafner, Courtney>as well as being directed legislatively
to look into the issue as well.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1618-0
00:13:45.746 --> 00:13:49.418
<v Hafner, Courtney>And then that's the goal is to in this
year's well,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1618-1
00:13:49.418 --> 00:13:53.866
<v Hafner, Courtney>I should say next year's in the January
26 stewardship report.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1624-0
00:13:54.226 --> 00:13:58.626
<v Hafner, Courtney>Our goal is to have proposed bill
language.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1629-0
00:14:00.756 --> 00:14:03.756
<v Hafner, Courtney>To update the battery program.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1647-0
00:14:04.966 --> 00:14:08.297
<v Andy Hackman>OK. If I recall correctly,
the committee can offer language based</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1647-1
00:14:08.297 --> 00:14:10.366
<v Andy Hackman>upon the report each year. Is that right?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1650-0
00:14:10.766 --> 00:14:12.406
<v Hafner, Courtney>That's my understanding, yes.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1652-0
00:14:12.666 --> 00:14:13.746
<v Andy Hackman>OK. Thanks.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1658-0
00:14:25.296 --> 00:14:27.336
<v Hafner, Courtney>All right. OK, well.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1662-0
00:14:29.116 --> 00:14:29.796
<v Hafner, Courtney>Ashley Ashley.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1664-0
00:14:29.796 --> 00:14:30.636
<v Hafner, Courtney>OK, Ashley, great.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1670-0
00:14:31.996 --> 00:14:33.276
<v Ashley Seaward>Hi, thank you.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1676-0
00:14:33.276 --> 00:14:34.276
<v Ashley Seaward>My name is Ashley.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1683-0
00:14:34.276 --> 00:14:37.116
<v Ashley Seaward>I'm here representing Redwood materials.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1693-0
00:14:37.116 --> 00:14:40.556
<v Ashley Seaward>We're North America's largest lithium ion
battery recycler.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1735-0
00:14:40.956 --> 00:14:45.259
<v Ashley Seaward>Thanks for creating this,
this time for us to talk about this and</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1735-1
00:14:45.259 --> 00:14:49.301
<v Ashley Seaward>have this discussion.
I just have a quick question at the top</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1735-2
00:14:49.301 --> 00:14:52.431
<v Ashley Seaward>here and apologies if it was in your your
memo,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1735-3
00:14:52.431 --> 00:14:57.516
<v Ashley Seaward>but is there like a formal comment period
or opportunity to send in a letter?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1750-0
00:14:58.316 --> 00:15:02.396
<v Ashley Seaward>Or just like synthesize some of our our
feedback to your questions.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1752-0
00:15:02.786 --> 00:15:03.666
<v Ashley Seaward>In a written format.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1762-0
00:15:04.256 --> 00:15:06.292
<v Hafner, Courtney>Right.
So we're kind of in an informal</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1762-1
00:15:06.292 --> 00:15:07.336
<v Hafner, Courtney>stakeholder process.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1769-0
00:15:07.336 --> 00:15:11.016
<v Hafner, Courtney>You can we we wholeheartedly encourage.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1777-0
00:15:12.716 --> 00:15:14.876
<v Hafner, Courtney>All to send us comments during this time
period.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1791-0
00:15:16.716 --> 00:15:21.676
<v Hafner, Courtney>We're we're probably going to have
because we have to have an end point.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1798-0
00:15:23.556 --> 00:15:25.156
<v Hafner, Courtney>So we can start working on that language.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1809-0
00:15:26.916 --> 00:15:32.516
<v Hafner, Courtney>We're probably gonna have a an endpoint
the week after the second meeting.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1823-0
00:15:33.906 --> 00:15:39.906
<v Hafner, Courtney>Calendar in front of me,
but any and all comments can be submitted.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1826-0
00:15:41.396 --> 00:15:42.596
<v Hafner, Courtney>To the battery.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1836-0
00:15:44.596 --> 00:15:48.676
<v Hafner, Courtney>Web the battery program e-mail that's on
our website.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1838-0
00:15:51.976 --> 00:15:52.256
<v Ashley Seaward>OK.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1841-0
00:15:52.126 --> 00:15:52.806
<v Hafner, Courtney>Ah, thank you.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1840-0
00:15:52.256 --> 00:15:52.656
<v Ashley Seaward>Thank you.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1857-0
00:15:54.556 --> 00:15:58.155
<v Hafner, Courtney>Yeah.
So actually we're looking to get put an</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1857-1
00:15:58.155 --> 00:16:01.676
<v Hafner, Courtney>endpoint of written comments September
12th.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1859-0
00:16:12.976 --> 00:16:13.416
<v Hafner, Courtney>Katie.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1868-0
00:16:15.876 --> 00:16:19.516
<v Hafner, Courtney>Brian Nope. OK, sure, Katie.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1887-0
00:16:20.776 --> 00:16:24.821
<v Katie Reilly>Hi, thank you, Katie Riley.
I'm with the Consumer Technology</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1887-1
00:16:24.821 --> 00:16:25.616
<v Katie Reilly>Association.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1890-0
00:16:25.896 --> 00:16:27.536
<v Katie Reilly>I sent an e-mail this morning.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1915-0
00:16:27.536 --> 00:16:32.743
<v Katie Reilly>I did just want to flag for you all that
your September 4th meeting overlaps with</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1915-1
00:16:32.743 --> 00:16:36.616
<v Katie Reilly>a similar stakeholder process that's
happening in Minnesota.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1939-0
00:16:36.776 --> 00:16:40.372
<v Katie Reilly>So I did want to see if there was a
possibility of either delaying that</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1939-1
00:16:40.372 --> 00:16:43.967
<v Katie Reilly>meeting or moving to a different date
just because I think a lot of the</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1939-2
00:16:43.967 --> 00:16:44.616
<v Katie Reilly>stakeholders.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1954-0
00:16:45.356 --> 00:16:49.556
<v Katie Reilly>Participating here are also involved in
the Minnesota process and the Minnesota</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1954-1
00:16:49.556 --> 00:16:50.396
<v Katie Reilly>dates have been.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1971-0
00:16:50.826 --> 00:16:55.786
<v Katie Reilly>That for quite a while at this point.
Just wondering if like that.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1979-0
00:16:54.146 --> 00:16:58.212
<v Hafner, Courtney>Sure. Yeah.
I think what we'll probably look at doing</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/1979-1
00:16:58.212 --> 00:17:00.546
<v Hafner, Courtney>is just moving our time period.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2006-0
00:17:01.996 --> 00:17:05.540
<v Hafner, Courtney>So it's after Minnesota's on that same
day.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2006-1
00:17:05.540 --> 00:17:11.822
<v Hafner, Courtney>Just because we are kind of on a tight
time schedule in order to meet the the</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2006-2
00:17:11.822 --> 00:17:13.996
<v Hafner, Courtney>reporting requirements. So.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2005-0
00:17:14.816 --> 00:17:15.176
<v Katie Reilly>OK.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2015-0
00:17:15.216 --> 00:17:16.456
<v Katie Reilly>Thank you for considering that move.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2017-0
00:17:15.756 --> 00:17:16.916
<v Hafner, Courtney>We'll we will.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2021-0
00:17:16.456 --> 00:17:18.056
<v Katie Reilly>I think I put the end time in there.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2026-0
00:17:18.636 --> 00:17:21.066
<v Hafner, Courtney>Yeah,
we'll follow up with anyone who sent an</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2026-1
00:17:21.066 --> 00:17:21.436
<v Hafner, Courtney>e-mail.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2028-0
00:17:23.116 --> 00:17:23.436
<v Hafner, Courtney>Or is attending.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2042-0
00:17:23.666 --> 00:17:27.446
<v Hafner, Courtney>I guess we'll, we'll,
we'll we'll firm up that within the next</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2042-1
00:17:27.446 --> 00:17:27.746
<v Hafner, Courtney>week.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2063-0
00:17:34.066 --> 00:17:38.500
<v Hafner, Courtney>Yeah. Hi, Anthony.
Scott with the Vapors Association on the</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2063-1
00:17:38.500 --> 00:17:42.786
<v Hafner, Courtney>chain of H stores and just wanted to give
a little input.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2085-0
00:17:44.316 --> 00:17:46.821
<v Hafner, Courtney>You spoke about Senator Bennett,
who met with him.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2085-1
00:17:46.821 --> 00:17:49.276
<v Hafner, Courtney>He told one of our stores to one of our
location.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2116-0
00:17:49.556 --> 00:17:52.707
<v Hafner, Courtney>And you know,
we started talking for for a little while</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2116-1
00:17:52.707 --> 00:17:56.421
<v Hafner, Courtney>and he understood, like,
some of the difficulties that it's going</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2116-2
00:17:56.421 --> 00:17:59.178
<v Hafner, Courtney>to be to create a stewardship program for,
like,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2116-3
00:17:59.178 --> 00:18:03.116
<v Hafner, Courtney>disposable base to be able to get rid of
these products and bring in.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2128-0
00:18:03.586 --> 00:18:07.391
<v Hafner, Courtney>It being acute hazardous waste because
the nicotine is all built in with the</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2128-1
00:18:07.391 --> 00:18:07.786
<v Hafner, Courtney>battery.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2143-0
00:18:09.276 --> 00:18:12.456
<v Hafner, Courtney>So I mean,
we're looking for a pathway forward to be</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2143-1
00:18:12.456 --> 00:18:14.316
<v Hafner, Courtney>able to dispose of these items.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2149-0
00:18:15.956 --> 00:18:18.756
<v Hafner, Courtney>Efficiently and cost effectively.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2171-0
00:18:20.436 --> 00:18:23.346
<v Hafner, Courtney>And it also the base that we sell,
there's two different kinds,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2171-1
00:18:23.346 --> 00:18:25.756
<v Hafner, Courtney>some that batters have broken apart from
each other.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2181-0
00:18:26.156 --> 00:18:29.956
<v Hafner, Courtney>So I think those are easier Ave.
for us to be able to.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2184-0
00:18:31.676 --> 00:18:32.196
<v Hafner, Courtney>Dispose of.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2206-0
00:18:33.646 --> 00:18:37.363
<v Hafner, Courtney>Even with like the call the recycle
program that's already set up in the</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2206-1
00:18:37.363 --> 00:18:40.366
<v Hafner, Courtney>state of Maine,
just looking for some more input and then,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2206-2
00:18:40.366 --> 00:18:41.486
<v Hafner, Courtney>you know, maybe I can.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2211-0
00:18:42.946 --> 00:18:45.426
<v Hafner, Courtney>Get more info later. Mm-hmm. Bye.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2222-0
00:18:45.746 --> 00:18:48.626
<v Hafner, Courtney>Yeah, I mean, I actually should say too,
that there was a, a, A.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2224-0
00:18:52.156 --> 00:18:52.476
<v Hafner, Courtney>Product stewardship.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2226-0
00:18:54.236 --> 00:18:54.436
<v Hafner, Courtney>Program.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2233-0
00:18:56.076 --> 00:18:57.196
<v Hafner, Courtney>Came out of the ENR committee.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2243-0
00:18:59.996 --> 00:19:04.716
<v Hafner, Courtney>And was tabled at the appropriations
table to be taken up next year.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2254-0
00:19:06.356 --> 00:19:11.676
<v Hafner, Courtney>That was specific as vape product
stewardship program.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2256-0
00:19:12.686 --> 00:19:13.526
<v Hafner, Courtney>Specific.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2269-0
00:19:20.906 --> 00:19:23.434
<v Hafner, Courtney>Brett Scott,
I also a member of the Main Labour</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2269-1
00:19:23.434 --> 00:19:24.066
<v Hafner, Courtney>Association.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2296-0
00:19:24.066 --> 00:19:27.845
<v Hafner, Courtney>I own Smoker Tavern canvas haven with
location New Hampshire, Maine.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2296-1
00:19:27.845 --> 00:19:31.733
<v Hafner, Courtney>But one other thing I just want to
mention is that you know has a bank</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2296-2
00:19:31.733 --> 00:19:35.786
<v Hafner, Courtney>considered to establish separate sales
tax rate for items with a battery.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2330-0
00:19:35.866 --> 00:19:39.813
<v Hafner, Courtney>So then it's kind of Fair and equitable
across all industries and then some of</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2330-1
00:19:39.813 --> 00:19:43.509
<v Hafner, Courtney>that money could be used towards
establishing a larger state program that</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2330-2
00:19:43.509 --> 00:19:46.906
<v Hafner, Courtney>you know is across the state as a whole
to address this as a whole.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2338-0
00:19:46.946 --> 00:19:50.306
<v Hafner, Courtney>I know vapes are one piece of it,
but you know there's batteries.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2349-0
00:19:50.386 --> 00:19:53.709
<v Hafner, Courtney>And so many devices at this point,
it would really bring all the industries</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2349-1
00:19:53.709 --> 00:19:54.146
<v Hafner, Courtney>into this.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2373-0
00:19:55.636 --> 00:19:58.931
<v Hafner, Courtney>Right.
So that's part of The thing is that we're</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2373-1
00:19:58.931 --> 00:20:03.436
<v Hafner, Courtney>looking at is a is A is a a wider
universe of of battery programs.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2387-0
00:20:05.236 --> 00:20:09.301
<v Hafner, Courtney>And probably not a sales tax type of
program,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2387-1
00:20:09.301 --> 00:20:12.836
<v Hafner, Courtney>but more of a a producer funded program.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2395-0
00:20:19.316 --> 00:20:21.865
<v Hafner, Courtney>Yeah.
So what happens if producers aren't</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2395-1
00:20:21.865 --> 00:20:22.836
<v Hafner, Courtney>willing to join?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2398-0
00:20:24.436 --> 00:20:25.276
<v Hafner, Courtney>Generally.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2430-0
00:20:27.596 --> 00:20:32.731
<v Hafner, Courtney>The requirement are for producers to join
and the biggest thing is a salesman.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2430-1
00:20:32.731 --> 00:20:35.591
<v Hafner, Courtney>If if.
If someone is not participating in a</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2430-2
00:20:35.591 --> 00:20:39.816
<v Hafner, Courtney>program then their products can't be sold
in the state of Maine.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2430-3
00:20:39.816 --> 00:20:41.116
<v Hafner, Courtney>So like for example.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2432-0
00:20:42.836 --> 00:20:43.716
<v Hafner, Courtney>Paint care.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2440-0
00:20:45.476 --> 00:20:49.556
<v Hafner, Courtney>Paint producers are members of a product
stewardship program.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2457-0
00:20:50.586 --> 00:20:53.811
<v Hafner, Courtney>And if a paint manufacturer is not a
member,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2457-1
00:20:53.811 --> 00:20:57.466
<v Hafner, Courtney>then it's its products can't be sold in
the state.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2462-0
00:21:05.776 --> 00:21:07.936
<v Hafner, Courtney>You got a question back there.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2465-0
00:21:07.936 --> 00:21:09.016
<v Hafner, Courtney>Oh, hi.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2469-0
00:21:09.416 --> 00:21:11.096
<v Hafner, Courtney>Hi, how are you, Brian?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2473-0
00:21:11.136 --> 00:21:12.336
<v Hafner, Courtney>Good. Hi, good.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2482-0
00:21:12.336 --> 00:21:15.216
<v Hafner, Courtney>I'm Owen Casas,
also with the Vapors Association.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2498-0
00:21:15.216 --> 00:21:18.350
<v Hafner, Courtney>Apologies for coming late,
so if I bring up something that was</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2498-1
00:21:18.350 --> 00:21:21.136
<v Hafner, Courtney>already discussed,
please feel free to just correct me.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2528-0
00:21:22.716 --> 00:21:27.229
<v Hafner, Courtney>But when you and I had talked one of the
aspects that I thought related to</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2528-1
00:21:27.229 --> 00:21:31.683
<v Hafner, Courtney>electronic smoking devices that the
department did want to figure out is,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2528-2
00:21:31.683 --> 00:21:36.316
<v Hafner, Courtney>did you have like a term for like
integrated battery or something like that?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2555-0
00:21:36.866 --> 00:21:43.530
<v Hafner, Courtney>And do we look at devices with integrated
batteries in a separate bin than</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2555-1
00:21:43.530 --> 00:21:48.506
<v Hafner, Courtney>batteries that are not integrated to the
device itself?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2561-0
00:21:48.906 --> 00:21:51.666
<v Hafner, Courtney>So I guess first, do I have that correct?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2582-0
00:21:51.826 --> 00:21:55.886
<v Hafner, Courtney>And then second is,
I would provide input based on how you</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2582-1
00:21:55.886 --> 00:21:59.395
<v Hafner, Courtney>responded,
whether I had that correct or well sure</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2582-2
00:21:59.395 --> 00:22:01.666
<v Hafner, Courtney>that's actually a a question for.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2593-0
00:22:02.476 --> 00:22:06.556
<v Hafner, Courtney>The larger the larger universe of battery
containing items.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2633-0
00:22:06.706 --> 00:22:10.025
<v Hafner, Courtney>'Cause,
there's a lot that is one of the</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2633-1
00:22:10.025 --> 00:22:15.933
<v Hafner, Courtney>questions that we've posed in in our
background document are looking for</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2633-2
00:22:15.933 --> 00:22:22.003
<v Hafner, Courtney>feedback on or or or how how should
products that have and not just fakes,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2633-3
00:22:22.003 --> 00:22:27.426
<v Hafner, Courtney>but any products that have embedded
batteries, what is the way to?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2645-0
00:22:30.156 --> 00:22:33.448
<v Hafner, Courtney>What is the?
What is the way to to handle the end of</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2645-1
00:22:33.448 --> 00:22:34.876
<v Hafner, Courtney>life of those products?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2652-0
00:22:37.106 --> 00:22:38.386
<v Hafner, Courtney>Is it through?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2658-0
00:22:39.066 --> 00:22:42.226
<v Hafner, Courtney>Would it be through a larger the battery?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2659-0
00:22:42.706 --> 00:22:43.266
<v Hafner, Courtney>It's several.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2667-0
00:22:43.266 --> 00:22:44.626
<v Hafner, Courtney>There's, I mean, there's several options.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2671-0
00:22:44.626 --> 00:22:45.986
<v Hafner, Courtney>You can go with that.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2685-0
00:22:46.226 --> 00:22:52.995
<v Hafner, Courtney>You can have them have the the producers
of those products be part of the battery</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2685-1
00:22:52.995 --> 00:22:55.306
<v Hafner, Courtney>product stewardship program.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2703-0
00:22:56.756 --> 00:23:04.127
<v Hafner, Courtney>Or you could have those be a separate
program that would either be of their own</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2703-1
00:23:04.127 --> 00:23:04.956
<v Hafner, Courtney>or could.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2714-0
00:23:05.346 --> 00:23:10.106
<v Hafner, Courtney>Or could fall into an existing the
existing e-waste program.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2736-0
00:23:10.106 --> 00:23:16.933
<v Hafner, Courtney>And that's part of what we're looking for
feedback on is what, what what's what?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2736-1
00:23:16.933 --> 00:23:21.906
<v Hafner, Courtney>Our thoughts for how embedded batteries
are to be handled.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2751-0
00:23:24.636 --> 00:23:27.836
<v Hafner, Courtney>Based on you confirming that was like
part of what you're looking for.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2759-0
00:23:27.836 --> 00:23:29.716
<v Hafner, Courtney>Feedback on that's what we're looking for.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2764-0
00:23:29.716 --> 00:23:32.436
<v Hafner, Courtney>Feedback on building on what Anthony was
saying.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2770-0
00:23:33.996 --> 00:23:35.836
<v Hafner, Courtney>And what you're saying,
so there's products.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2812-0
00:23:36.066 --> 00:23:39.642
<v Hafner, Courtney>Generally,
we're more interested or like concerned</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2812-1
00:23:39.642 --> 00:23:45.461
<v Hafner, Courtney>about electronic smoking devices and they
seem to fall into like a couple of bins.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2812-2
00:23:45.461 --> 00:23:51.139
<v Hafner, Courtney>One of the bins to where the batteries
are not integrated or the other term that</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2812-3
00:23:51.139 --> 00:23:54.575
<v Hafner, Courtney>you use,
it's really easy to separate those into</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2812-4
00:23:54.575 --> 00:23:55.556
<v Hafner, Courtney>their own was.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2816-0
00:23:55.556 --> 00:23:56.786
<v Hafner, Courtney>Stream there's not like.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Hazardous waste concerns and then the
tapes that have are electronic smoking</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>devices that have batteries integrated
into them.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>They seem to fall also into a couple of
bins,</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>ones to where you can reasonably extract
and separate the battery.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Now making it just like any other battery
that you kind of have around and then a</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>number of products that have batteries
that you can't necessarily or reasonably</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>extract.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>With tools that are not specialized or
something of that nature or specialized</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>process,
and that's something that I'm really</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>interested in because I think that.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Our interests align with Debs as far as.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>End of life care with these products.
And so for me and I believe a lot of shop</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>owners getting as many of those
integrated batteries that can reasonably</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/2955-2
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<v Hafner, Courtney>be removed from the devices into the
waste stream with all the other product</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>batteries that we're trying to have. Ste.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Over is something that I would like to
better understand.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>What does reasonable look like?</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>I've taken some of these devices apart.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>They're on large portion of the market.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>And so to have this very large and
growing portion of the market be viewed</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>as entirely separate,
when I believe you can reasonably get</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>some of a lot of these batteries out that
I would just love to know how the</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>department plans to kind of evaluate that
and.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Find out what are we?</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>What percentage are we talking here?</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>How easy?</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>How hard?</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Well,
part of that would be like the definition</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>of what?</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>An A product with an embedded battery is.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Is and that's part of it. Is what?</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>What would be the level of effort for
removing a battery from a product that</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>would make it embedded versus actually a
removable and what's what we're looking</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>for input on and like and and when we
talk,</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>nonscientific to try to figure out how
easy it seems like there.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Are a lot of these products electronic
spoken devices and otherwise?</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>That the batteries are considered
embedded,</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>but through a simple process can be.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Removed extracted and flow into the
regular waste stream.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>OK. And then the other products can't,
right?</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>And that would be something that we would
be looking for input on as to what what</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>makes a battery embedded versus removable,
right?</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>With that, we have some other hands.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Yep,
let's go first with Katie and for people</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>online,
we are going through a laptop speaker.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>So please,
if you could speak loudly and clearly,</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>we appreciate it.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>Sure.
Katie Riley with Consumer Technology</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>association. CTA again.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>We'll also be happy to provide written
comments and we're not sure it's sort of</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/3253-1
00:26:53.781 --> 00:26:57.748
<v Katie Reilly>how we're structuring this meeting if
we're going to be responding later to</v>

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00:26:57.748 --> 00:27:01.766
<v Katie Reilly>like specific questions or like have an
agenda, we're going to flow through.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>But I do just want to note that loose
batteries and products have very</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/3270-1
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<v Katie Reilly>different collection systems and needs.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>And so we shouldn't be looking.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/3288-0
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<v Katie Reilly>To lump the collection of loose batteries
in with products that may have.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/3295-0
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<v Katie Reilly>Embedded batteries in them.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/3299-0
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<v Katie Reilly>They need separate systems.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>Additionally,
we have an existing electronics EPR</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>program here in Maine.
I think as we talk about products,</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>we should view it through the lens of
what's compatible with the electronics</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/3349-3
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<v Katie Reilly>recycling system itself.
As we talk about battery embedded</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>products,
not all products with embedded batteries</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/3349-5
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<v Katie Reilly>are.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>Compatible with the electronics recycling
system.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>Are capable of being managed within that
system,</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>and since the discussion has been on
vapes, I'm not a vaping expert.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>But I do know that cannabis is legal
there in Maine and therefore you get into</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>a lot of hazardous waste laws and ability
to move those products outside.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>The state of Maine to be handled or
recycled, and I know that vapes,</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>if you would talk to an electronics
recycling company are not at all</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>compatible with their system.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>So just something for us to think about,
I think.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>We probably.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>We need to move products into a separate
discussion on away from loose batteries</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>and then talk about, you know,
within that embedded broad product world</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>or scope what is compatible with systems
that may exist like our electronics</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>recycling system or what other systems
may need to be set.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>Up to manage different materials and I
think at this point in time nobody has a</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>great picture of what the embedded
battery product world.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>Entails.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>Other than that,
it's probably a wide variety of products.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>California's Advanced Recovery Fee system
for battery embedded products officially</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>launches on January 1,
and I think once we get that list out of</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>California,
we'll have a better idea of all the</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>products in scope.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>So this may be a conversation that based
on some additional efforts coming out of</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/3585-1
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<v Katie Reilly>other states,
could be beneficial to sort of delay and</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>assess based on.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>What we see?</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>In terms of those lists.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Right. Just to build on that,
I mean one of the things that we're</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>looking for too is if there are
particular states or other jurisdictions</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>that have.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>People feel are very are successful
programs that may could harmonize with.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>That's what we would be looking for
information on.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>No. Yeah,
no and no state right now has a program</v>

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00:29:31.422 --> 00:29:34.936
<v Katie Reilly>specifically focused on battery embedded
products.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>Just so you know,
with the exception of California,</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>but that's that advanced recovery fee.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>It's the fee charged at the point of sale
or purchase to consumers,</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>so it's a very different structure than
what you all are talking about here under</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>kind of the guise of product stewardship.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>All right.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Thank you for that.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Mark, you are next.</v>

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<v Marc Miller>Yes, good afternoon.</v>

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00:30:02.196 --> 00:30:03.236
<v Marc Miller>My name is Mark Miller.</v>

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00:30:03.236 --> 00:30:05.476
<v Marc Miller>I represent Volvo Group North America.</v>

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00:30:05.556 --> 00:30:08.676
<v Marc Miller>We're a producer of medium,
heavy and heavy heavy duty.</v>

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00:30:10.596 --> 00:30:13.318
<v Marc Miller>Trucks, buses,
motor coaches as well as non road</v>

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00:30:13.318 --> 00:30:14.596
<v Marc Miller>construction equipment.</v>

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<v Marc Miller>I just heard a lot about this universe of
batteries and I wanted to make sure that</v>

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00:30:20.151 --> 00:30:23.826
<v Marc Miller>everybody understands how big this
universe of batteries really is.</v>

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00:30:24.226 --> 00:30:27.106
<v Marc Miller>We deal with battery packs.</v>

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00:30:27.146 --> 00:30:33.138
<v Marc Miller>Multiple battery packs on a Class 8
tractor that are 94 kilowatt hours or</v>

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00:30:33.138 --> 00:30:33.786
<v Marc Miller>greater.</v>

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00:30:35.516 --> 00:30:39.760
<v Marc Miller>And we could have anywhere from 4:00 to
6:00 battery packs on these these</v>

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00:30:39.760 --> 00:30:40.276
<v Marc Miller>tractors.</v>

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00:30:42.036 --> 00:30:44.516
<v Marc Miller>So keep in mind that that we're.</v>

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00:30:44.866 --> 00:30:46.826
<v Marc Miller>Just talking small vape batteries.</v>

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00:30:47.066 --> 00:30:50.866
<v Marc Miller>We're talking very large capacity.</v>

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00:30:52.236 --> 00:30:52.876
<v Marc Miller>Vehicle batteries as well.</v>

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00:30:54.636 --> 00:30:59.362
<v Marc Miller>So I know that in the collection and
convenience section of your your document</v>

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00:30:59.362 --> 00:31:03.848
<v Marc Miller>that you put out to kind of guide this
conversation you were asking about,</v>

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00:31:03.848 --> 00:31:07.676
<v Marc Miller>should vehicle batteries be a specific
program through dealers?</v>

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<v Marc Miller>I wouldn't say necessarily through the
dealers themselves,</v>

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00:31:12.192 --> 00:31:14.356
<v Marc Miller>but I think it needs to be a separate
program.</v>

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00:31:14.666 --> 00:31:15.866
<v Marc Miller>Gramp for sure.</v>

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00:31:17.316 --> 00:31:18.596
<v Marc Miller>Because the concerns are very different
here.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>OK.</v>

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<v Marc Miller>Thank you.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Sure. Thank you.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Yeah, that's the thing we're looking for.
Input on what?</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>You know what format size batteries would
be appropriate for a program and which</v>

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00:31:32.325 --> 00:31:34.476
<v Hafner, Courtney>ones would be best suited for?</v>

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00:31:36.876 --> 00:31:38.756
<v Hafner, Courtney>Another means of end of life.</v>

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00:31:44.056 --> 00:31:44.416
<v Hafner, Courtney>All right.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Thank you, mark. Jennifer.</v>

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<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>There we go.</v>

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<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>Hello, Jennifer Dappolonio, again.
Main DEP's hazardous Waste management</v>

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00:31:58.677 --> 00:31:59.026
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>unit.</v>

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<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>I just wanted to give everybody a little
more information about.</v>

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<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>Batteries under and how they're handled
on their R program at end of life,</v>

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00:32:09.817 --> 00:32:12.116
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>they are a category of universal waste.</v>

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00:32:14.236 --> 00:32:21.667
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>We we follow the federal rules in 40 CFR
part 273 when it comes to waste battery</v>

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00:32:21.667 --> 00:32:22.676
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>management.</v>

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00:32:23.906 --> 00:32:27.882
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>And excuse me,
we also have an abbreviated license</v>

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00:32:27.882 --> 00:32:34.118
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>requirement here in the state of Maine
and that gets into what is considered an</v>

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00:32:34.118 --> 00:32:37.626
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>embedded battery versus a removable
battery.</v>

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00:32:39.116 --> 00:32:44.021
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>If you are dealing with an embedded
battery and you take apart in a device</v>

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00:32:44.021 --> 00:32:47.356
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>whether it's a computer or a vape device,
whatnot.</v>

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00:32:49.076 --> 00:32:52.196
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>To remove a battery that is not designed
to be removed.</v>

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00:32:52.806 --> 00:32:56.895
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>That is considered dismantling of
universal waste and it requires a license,</v>

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00:32:56.895 --> 00:32:58.966
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>a demanding factoring facility license.</v>

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00:33:00.556 --> 00:33:05.107
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>So that that will have some challenges
when we're talking about vape devices</v>

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00:33:05.107 --> 00:33:08.476
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>that have batteries that are not designed
to be removed.</v>

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00:33:10.556 --> 00:33:16.712
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>We have been in talks with other States
and the EPA going back to specifically</v>

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00:33:16.712 --> 00:33:21.076
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>the issue of vapes where it is a multi
pronged problem.</v>

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00:33:21.986 --> 00:33:26.041
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>That's going to require the multi pronged
solution because like the,</v>

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00:33:26.041 --> 00:33:29.333
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>the third gentleman who spoke about vapes
talked about,</v>

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00:33:29.333 --> 00:33:32.741
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>we're not only looking at the battery as
universal waste,</v>

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00:33:32.741 --> 00:33:36.209
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>but we're looking at nicotine as an acute
hazardous waste.</v>

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00:33:36.209 --> 00:33:39.676
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>And we're also looking at the potential
of cannabis being.</v>

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00:33:39.676 --> 00:33:43.826
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>Transported across state lines as a
schedule one drug federally.</v>

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00:33:44.746 --> 00:33:49.106
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>So EPA, we're still in talks.</v>

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00:33:49.346 --> 00:33:53.426
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>We're looking at other states to to
figure out how we can all move forward.</v>

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00:33:54.876 --> 00:33:59.238
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>In a consistent manner to to try to get a
hold on this nationally,</v>

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00:33:59.238 --> 00:34:01.516
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>but I wanted to make you all aware.</v>

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00:34:03.316 --> 00:34:07.665
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>That if the battery is not designed to be
removed from the vape,</v>

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00:34:07.665 --> 00:34:12.951
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>then there are additional considerations
and we have been talking to receiving</v>

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00:34:12.951 --> 00:34:14.356
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>facilities universal.</v>

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00:34:14.666 --> 00:34:17.723
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>And how's it was waste receiving
facilities across the country.</v>

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00:34:17.723 --> 00:34:20.875
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>And the problem is when they get one of
these integrated devices,</v>

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00:34:20.875 --> 00:34:23.358
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>the one the facilities who deal with the
batteries,</v>

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00:34:23.358 --> 00:34:25.746
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>they don't want to deal with the
hazardous waste.</v>

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00:34:25.746 --> 00:34:29.781
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>They don't want to deal with the nicotine,
the ones who are receiving the nicotine</v>

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00:34:29.781 --> 00:34:32.260
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>most of the time,
they don't want to deal with the</v>

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00:34:32.260 --> 00:34:32.746
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>batteries.</v>

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00:34:33.186 --> 00:34:37.924
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>So perhaps finding out a way to separate
these waste streams is something that we</v>

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00:34:37.924 --> 00:34:38.906
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>should look into.</v>

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00:34:42.106 --> 00:34:48.002
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>In general, as far as embedded devices go,
I'm sure you are all aware that they can</v>

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00:34:48.002 --> 00:34:53.616
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>be problematic at when they get to the
receiving facility. If they're glued in,</v>

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00:34:53.616 --> 00:34:58.108
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>it could be dangerous for the technician
trying to remove them,</v>

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00:34:58.108 --> 00:35:01.266
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>and once that battery is compromised in
any.</v>

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00:35:01.266 --> 00:35:06.681
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>Way it falls out of Maine's universal
waste universe into the hazardous waste</v>

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00:35:06.681 --> 00:35:07.306
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>universe.</v>

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00:35:08.076 --> 00:35:12.476
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>So there's also that consideration for
any battery that is not designed.</v>

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00:35:12.946 --> 00:35:13.786
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>To be removed.</v>

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00:35:16.466 --> 00:35:17.786
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>I think that's all I have for now.</v>

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00:35:19.506 --> 00:35:20.186
<v Hafner, Courtney>OK.</v>

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00:35:21.026 --> 00:35:21.786
<v Hafner, Courtney>Thanks, Jennifer.</v>

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00:35:23.316 --> 00:35:23.876
<v Hafner, Courtney>Mark.</v>

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00:35:28.106 --> 00:35:28.586
<v Boolish, Marc>There we go.</v>

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00:35:28.586 --> 00:35:30.211
<v Boolish, Marc>Sorry,
I was just making sure my camera was</v>

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00:35:30.211 --> 00:35:30.506
<v Boolish, Marc>working.</v>

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00:35:30.506 --> 00:35:34.026
<v Boolish, Marc>Hi, it's Mark, bullish with Prba.
The Rechargeable Battery association.</v>

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00:35:34.386 --> 00:35:37.275
<v Boolish, Marc>I had spoken to Courtney about just,
you know,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/4476-1
00:35:37.275 --> 00:35:41.700
<v Boolish, Marc>what is happening with the loose
batteries around the the country right</v>

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00:35:41.700 --> 00:35:41.946
<v Boolish, Marc>now.</v>

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00:35:41.946 --> 00:35:44.866
<v Boolish, Marc>I don't know if this would be the time to
to frame that up,</v>

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00:35:44.866 --> 00:35:47.542
<v Boolish, Marc>or if you had a idea of doing that a
little bit later,</v>

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00:35:47.542 --> 00:35:49.586
<v Boolish, Marc>but I'm happy to do it now or or whenever.</v>

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00:35:51.566 --> 00:35:55.562
<v Hafner, Courtney>Yeah.
Why don't we go ahead and and do that now,</v>

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00:35:55.562 --> 00:36:00.046
<v Hafner, Courtney>'cause. Yeah,
I believe I need to throw that up there.</v>

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00:36:00.086 --> 00:36:01.166
<v Hafner, Courtney>OK, that's true.</v>

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00:36:01.526 --> 00:36:01.766
<v Boolish, Marc>I can.</v>

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00:36:01.886 --> 00:36:04.246
<v Boolish, Marc>I can share it as well if it's if it's
enabled.</v>

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00:36:03.076 --> 00:36:03.436
<v Hafner, Courtney>OK.</v>

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00:36:03.436 --> 00:36:04.076
<v Hafner, Courtney>Yes, absolutely.</v>

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00:36:04.076 --> 00:36:05.196
<v Hafner, Courtney>Go ahead. Yeah.</v>

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00:36:06.556 --> 00:36:09.196
<v Boolish, Marc>Actually it's grayed out. Sorry.</v>

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00:36:11.036 --> 00:36:11.196
<v Hafner, Courtney>OK.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/4545-0
00:36:11.196 --> 00:36:12.436
<v Hafner, Courtney>Yeah, 'cause, it's a webinar.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/4551-0
00:36:12.436 --> 00:36:15.076
<v Hafner, Courtney>It's different than a meeting,
so one second.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/4556-0
00:36:22.776 --> 00:36:24.276
<v Hafner, Courtney>That's not what I wanted to do.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/4562-0
00:36:40.426 --> 00:36:40.946
<v Hafner, Courtney>Just gonna.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/4566-0
00:36:42.386 --> 00:36:43.666
<v Hafner, Courtney>Move everybody to the side.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/4568-0
00:36:50.356 --> 00:36:50.996
<v Hafner, Courtney>Sure.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/4570-0
00:36:53.356 --> 00:36:53.516
<v Hafner, Courtney>OK.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/4572-0
00:36:55.006 --> 00:36:55.366
<v Boolish, Marc>All right.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/4580-0
00:36:55.366 --> 00:36:57.166
<v Boolish, Marc>Thank you. If you, I promised,
I'd be brief.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/4584-0
00:36:57.166 --> 00:36:58.446
<v Boolish, Marc>So go right to the next slide.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/4586-0
00:36:58.446 --> 00:36:59.526
<v Boolish, Marc>I already introduced myself.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/4634-0
00:37:02.896 --> 00:37:05.132
<v Boolish, Marc>So just a quick snapshot of of who is
prba.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/4634-1
00:37:05.132 --> 00:37:08.334
<v Boolish, Marc>This is just a lot of the different logos
of our Members here.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/4634-2
00:37:08.334 --> 00:37:12.044
<v Boolish, Marc>And if you go to the next slide,
I'll just briefly introduce who is prba</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/4634-3
00:37:12.044 --> 00:37:15.296
<v Boolish, Marc>and then I'll get into what's happening
within the rest of the.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/4684-0
00:37:15.296 --> 00:37:18.448
<v Boolish, Marc>Country prba represents the manufacturers
of batteries,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/4684-1
00:37:18.448 --> 00:37:22.163
<v Boolish, Marc>but also other stakeholders in the
rechargeable battery industry,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/4684-2
00:37:22.163 --> 00:37:24.921
<v Boolish, Marc>really dealing from anything from the
beginning.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/4684-3
00:37:24.921 --> 00:37:29.255
<v Boolish, Marc>Points of like mining all the way through
distribution and even end of life.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/4684-4
00:37:29.255 --> 00:37:31.956
<v Boolish, Marc>We do get involved in a lot of different
areas.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/4712-0
00:37:32.786 --> 00:37:37.667
<v Boolish, Marc>Related to interests of our Members and
not really Jermaine to this conversation</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/4712-1
00:37:37.667 --> 00:37:40.740
<v Boolish, Marc>particularly,
but we also get involved in a lot of</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/4712-2
00:37:40.740 --> 00:37:42.066
<v Boolish, Marc>transportation forums.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/4733-0
00:37:42.066 --> 00:37:46.420
<v Boolish, Marc>But the the membership of who we have
there is probably the the best for for</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/4733-1
00:37:46.420 --> 00:37:49.586
<v Boolish, Marc>where you know who we represent in these
conversations.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/4738-0
00:37:50.026 --> 00:37:51.546
<v Boolish, Marc>So if you go to the next slide.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/4775-0
00:37:54.136 --> 00:37:59.027
<v Boolish, Marc>So where we are within the US as of this
is updated still update today.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/4775-1
00:37:59.027 --> 00:38:04.054
<v Boolish, Marc>I updated the slide on August 5th.
The way to look at this is the this is</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/4775-2
00:38:04.054 --> 00:38:05.616
<v Boolish, Marc>for portable batteries.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/4796-0
00:38:05.616 --> 00:38:10.914
<v Boolish, Marc>So consider those we we put portable
batteries together as the small and</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/4796-1
00:38:10.914 --> 00:38:12.656
<v Boolish, Marc>medium format batteries.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/4829-0
00:38:12.696 --> 00:38:16.512
<v Boolish, Marc>Small batteries would be something that
essentially you can fit in your pocket</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/4829-1
00:38:16.512 --> 00:38:20.280
<v Boolish, Marc>and medium format batteries are the
batteries that are of the size that would</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/4829-2
00:38:20.280 --> 00:38:23.516
<v Boolish, Marc>be like for an E bike or a scooter or
something along those lines.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/4851-0
00:38:24.306 --> 00:38:26.983
<v Boolish, Marc>And that distinguishes them from the
large batteries,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/4851-1
00:38:26.983 --> 00:38:31.146
<v Boolish, Marc>which would be something like an electric
vehicle battery or energy storage system.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/4890-0
00:38:31.306 --> 00:38:35.094
<v Boolish, Marc>So the the map that I have here just
covers the portable,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/4890-1
00:38:35.094 --> 00:38:39.731
<v Boolish, Marc>so the small and the medium format,
the states that are in red and the</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/4890-2
00:38:39.731 --> 00:38:44.759
<v Boolish, Marc>District of Columbia already have laws on
the books covering EPR programs or</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/4890-3
00:38:44.759 --> 00:38:47.306
<v Boolish, Marc>portable batteries for all chemistries.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/4897-0
00:38:47.306 --> 00:38:49.826
<v Boolish, Marc>Essentially,
all chemistries of portable batteries.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/4905-0
00:38:50.836 --> 00:38:53.036
<v Boolish, Marc>So again,
the red states have laws that either.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/4926-0
00:38:53.466 --> 00:38:57.544
<v Boolish, Marc>Have passed in previous years or in the
case of this year, Colorado,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/4926-1
00:38:57.544 --> 00:39:00.026
<v Boolish, Marc>Nebraska and Connecticut passed this year.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/4964-0
00:39:00.466 --> 00:39:05.253
<v Boolish, Marc>The other states are either in the case
of DC, which I know is not a state,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/4964-1
00:39:05.253 --> 00:39:09.599
<v Boolish, Marc>but DC has their program up and running,
and Washington, California,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/4964-2
00:39:09.599 --> 00:39:14.701
<v Boolish, Marc>Illinois and Vermont are in the process
of moving forward with their programs to</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/4964-3
00:39:14.701 --> 00:39:17.346
<v Boolish, Marc>start fairly soon. The states that are in.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/4966-0
00:39:17.346 --> 00:39:17.706
<v Boolish, Marc>Yellow.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/4982-0
00:39:18.516 --> 00:39:22.802
<v Boolish, Marc>Are two different versions of the yellows,
the ones that have the the crossing</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/4982-1
00:39:22.802 --> 00:39:23.236
<v Boolish, Marc>through.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5017-0
00:39:23.546 --> 00:39:28.603
<v Boolish, Marc>Them or states that had some level of
activity on battery, portable battery,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5017-1
00:39:28.603 --> 00:39:33.661
<v Boolish, Marc>EPR this year but did not get out of
session with them for a very variety of</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5017-2
00:39:33.661 --> 00:39:34.186
<v Boolish, Marc>reasons.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5050-0
00:39:34.386 --> 00:39:37.493
<v Boolish, Marc>And then New York,
PA and New Jersey have sessions that last</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5050-1
00:39:37.493 --> 00:39:40.854
<v Boolish, Marc>either through the end of the year.
In the case of New Jersey and</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5050-2
00:39:40.854 --> 00:39:44.978
<v Boolish, Marc>Pennsylvania, or in the case of New York,
they have something that is sitting on</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5050-3
00:39:44.978 --> 00:39:46.506
<v Boolish, Marc>the governor's desk right now.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5054-0
00:39:46.506 --> 00:39:47.786
<v Boolish, Marc>So it is still open there.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5071-0
00:39:49.036 --> 00:39:53.484
<v Boolish, Marc>So and and obviously Hawaii's is an
addition there that is did not move</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5071-1
00:39:53.484 --> 00:39:54.596
<v Boolish, Marc>forward this year.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5076-0
00:39:54.946 --> 00:39:56.466
<v Boolish, Marc>Or at least with a plan as of yet.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5080-0
00:39:57.956 --> 00:39:58.596
<v Boolish, Marc>So next slide please.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5115-0
00:40:01.186 --> 00:40:06.335
<v Boolish, Marc>So Prba does have a model bill that we
have been using that with a lot of these</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5115-1
00:40:06.335 --> 00:40:10.132
<v Boolish, Marc>state discussions,
the states that have passed laws either</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5115-2
00:40:10.132 --> 00:40:13.864
<v Boolish, Marc>use a majority,
if not all of the model bill or certainly</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5115-3
00:40:13.864 --> 00:40:15.666
<v Boolish, Marc>a significant portion of it.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5140-0
00:40:16.546 --> 00:40:20.153
<v Boolish, Marc>And I did promise to be brief,
so I'll quickly walk through these that</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5140-1
00:40:20.153 --> 00:40:23.353
<v Boolish, Marc>model, bill, as I said,
it has been a template for many of the</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5140-2
00:40:23.353 --> 00:40:24.826
<v Boolish, Marc>states that have passed laws.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5173-0
00:40:25.496 --> 00:40:28.917
<v Boolish, Marc>And it does at a high level,
have key components to it,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5173-1
00:40:28.917 --> 00:40:33.315
<v Boolish, Marc>the first one being state oversight,
such as review a plan submissions,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5173-2
00:40:33.315 --> 00:40:36.736
<v Boolish, Marc>approval of those submissions,
and then annual reports.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5216-0
00:40:37.336 --> 00:40:41.297
<v Boolish, Marc>It does contain a battery stewardship
organization in the model or</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5216-1
00:40:41.297 --> 00:40:43.899
<v Boolish, Marc>organizations.
It does not limit it to one.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5216-2
00:40:43.899 --> 00:40:47.801
<v Boolish, Marc>Some states choose to do that,
but it is not in our model and the</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5216-3
00:40:47.801 --> 00:40:52.590
<v Boolish, Marc>stewardship organization is because when
you're dealing with portable batteries,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5216-4
00:40:52.590 --> 00:40:54.186
<v Boolish, Marc>you can be looking in some.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5219-0
00:40:54.256 --> 00:40:54.866
<v Boolish, Marc>Cases as.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5259-0
00:40:55.096 --> 00:40:57.959
<v Boolish, Marc>As many as hundreds of different
producers, when you,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5259-1
00:40:57.959 --> 00:41:01.563
<v Boolish, Marc>when you look at all the batteries that
are coming into the market,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5259-2
00:41:01.563 --> 00:41:06.016
<v Boolish, Marc>it also does set convenience targets for
having collection points within the state.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5263-0
00:41:06.056 --> 00:41:09.096
<v Boolish, Marc>It calls for a education and training.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5289-0
00:41:09.496 --> 00:41:12.005
<v Boolish, Marc>It talks,
it has parts in there about best</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5289-1
00:41:12.005 --> 00:41:16.206
<v Boolish, Marc>practices for the movement and the
ultimate use of those materials once</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5289-2
00:41:16.206 --> 00:41:17.256
<v Boolish, Marc>they're recovered.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5298-0
00:41:17.616 --> 00:41:21.576
<v Boolish, Marc>It does contain limited antitrust
protection because you do have.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5307-0
00:41:22.346 --> 00:41:24.826
<v Boolish, Marc>Competitors essentially getting together
to form a program.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5321-0
00:41:25.776 --> 00:41:31.216
<v Boolish, Marc>So it is limited around just discussions
for the purposes of creating a program.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5362-0
00:41:32.586 --> 00:41:35.373
<v Boolish, Marc>The bill or the model also does contain a
clause,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5362-1
00:41:35.373 --> 00:41:39.888
<v Boolish, Marc>and they're about right of private action,
which is something that hasn't really</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5362-2
00:41:39.888 --> 00:41:42.564
<v Boolish, Marc>been used,
but it would just be in the case of,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5362-3
00:41:42.564 --> 00:41:46.466
<v Boolish, Marc>if a state does not enforce.
If it chooses to pass a law, it gives a.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5379-0
00:41:46.466 --> 00:41:49.470
<v Boolish, Marc>Stewardship,
organization or organizations the</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5379-1
00:41:49.470 --> 00:41:52.986
<v Boolish, Marc>opportunity to pursue non compliant
producers civilly.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5400-0
00:41:54.096 --> 00:41:57.159
<v Boolish, Marc>It also does have some limited retailer
obligation.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5400-1
00:41:57.159 --> 00:42:00.870
<v Boolish, Marc>Retailers in the model are not forced to
be collection points,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5400-2
00:42:00.870 --> 00:42:02.696
<v Boolish, Marc>but they can opt in to do that.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5429-0
00:42:04.186 --> 00:42:08.152
<v Boolish, Marc>And then the only other provision is that
there is a a sales prohibition in the</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5429-1
00:42:08.152 --> 00:42:11.474
<v Boolish, Marc>model and the retailers just have to
check to make sure that they,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5429-2
00:42:11.474 --> 00:42:13.506
<v Boolish, Marc>whoever they're buying from is compliant.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5433-0
00:42:13.826 --> 00:42:16.266
<v Boolish, Marc>There are some exemptions in the model
bill as well.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5448-0
00:42:17.986 --> 00:42:22.322
<v Boolish, Marc>Some certain types of medical devices
that are not consumer facing are exempted</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5448-1
00:42:22.322 --> 00:42:23.026
<v Boolish, Marc>in the model.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5506-0
00:42:23.816 --> 00:42:27.630
<v Boolish, Marc>As well as embedded batteries and
automobile batteries,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5506-1
00:42:27.630 --> 00:42:31.239
<v Boolish, Marc>regardless of how the automobile
batteries are used,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5506-2
00:42:31.239 --> 00:42:36.483
<v Boolish, Marc>I know there's been some discussion on
the embedded batteries because of the</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/5506-3
00:42:36.483 --> 00:42:40.842
<v Boolish, Marc>unique nature of them,
and that they don't fit perfectly into a</v>

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<v Boolish, Marc>battery program that exists now.
The embedded batteries are.</v>

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<v Boolish, Marc>Something that is being discussed behind
the scenes with a number of states.</v>

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00:42:48.786 --> 00:42:51.906
<v Boolish, Marc>And and in fact Washington state.</v>

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00:42:52.576 --> 00:42:57.110
<v Boolish, Marc>Illinois and Vermont all have a clause in
their laws that require some type of</v>

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<v Boolish, Marc>report back to the legislatures there.
In the July 2027 time frame on how to</v>

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<v Boolish, Marc>deal with embedded batteries and embedded
as defined as those batteries that are</v>

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<v Boolish, Marc>not easily removed from the.</v>

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<v Boolish, Marc>Device without essentially damaging the
device.</v>

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<v Boolish, Marc>And I think that's it.</v>

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<v Boolish, Marc>I think this next one is just asking for
questions.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>May I ask what you got that definition
from?</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Yeah, go ahead.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Sir,
that the most recent definition that you</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>gave for embedded battery and how it
could be like removed without damaging.</v>

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00:43:28.608 --> 00:43:31.266
<v Hafner, Courtney>Where did you get that definition from?</v>

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00:43:33.046 --> 00:43:37.389
<v Boolish, Marc>I don't know if I can cite one particular
source.</v>

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00:43:37.389 --> 00:43:42.166
<v Boolish, Marc>It's been a learning as we've gone along
historically.</v>

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00:43:42.286 --> 00:43:47.319
<v Boolish, Marc>There have been provisions in EPR laws,
whether they're in Europe or anywhere</v>

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00:43:47.319 --> 00:43:50.804
<v Boolish, Marc>else in the world or in other states,
Canada as well,</v>

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00:43:50.804 --> 00:43:55.966
<v Boolish, Marc>that it says that you cannot remove the
battery without common household tools.</v>

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00:43:56.606 --> 00:43:58.761
<v Boolish, Marc>So in other words,
if you can just open the battery</v>

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00:43:58.761 --> 00:44:01.206
<v Boolish, Marc>compartment with your hands,
that would not be considered.</v>

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00:44:02.306 --> 00:44:03.146
<v Boolish, Marc>That would be considered.</v>

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<v Boolish, Marc>Considered easily removable,
we've refined it to some extent.</v>

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00:44:07.321 --> 00:44:11.669
<v Boolish, Marc>Because OK, I've I've heard this.
The statement that a common household</v>

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00:44:11.669 --> 00:44:12.696
<v Boolish, Marc>tool is a hammer.</v>

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<v Boolish, Marc>So we've refined that definition to some
extent to say that you can't if you use a</v>

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00:44:17.236 --> 00:44:20.248
<v Boolish, Marc>screwdriver. That's one thing,
it doesn't damage the device,</v>

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00:44:20.248 --> 00:44:23.656
<v Boolish, Marc>but obviously if you're using a hammer
that would damage the device.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Thank you.</v>

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<v Boolish, Marc>And thank you.</v>

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<v Boolish, Marc>I as as I mentioned to Courtney,
I promised I would be brief.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>OK,
I'm gonna leave this for a second in case</v>

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00:44:42.538 --> 00:44:48.192
<v Hafner, Courtney>anybody would like Mark's information,
and then we'll go back and check on,</v>

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00:44:48.192 --> 00:44:50.796
<v Hafner, Courtney>see if there's any other questions.</v>

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00:45:01.636 --> 00:45:03.716
<v Boolish, Marc>I think Katie might have a question for
me.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Yes. Yep.
Let me get the camera back on it and all</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>right. Go ahead, Katie.</v>

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00:45:10.296 --> 00:45:14.159
<v Katie Reilly>Sure. Not a question for you, Mark,
but I did just want to note,</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>as I mentioned,
the California law and some questions</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>there about how things are defined,
California and its regulations right now,</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>they're still working on finalizing those
regulations,</v>

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00:45:25.273 --> 00:45:28.066
<v Katie Reilly>but they have definitions around design
to be.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>Easily removed from a product by the user
with no more than commonly used household</v>

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00:45:33.140 --> 00:45:35.616
<v Katie Reilly>tools, and then in conjunction with that.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>What the definition of commonly used
household tools?</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>Is. So,
once those regulations are finalized,</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>there will be a template in terms of
state law that Maine could potentially</v>

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00:45:49.111 --> 00:45:49.736
<v Katie Reilly>look to.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Right, apologies.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Having a little technical difficulties
for a second, but thank you for that.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Katie, any other questions?</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Knowledge is great until it isn't, yeah.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>And also just to verify if people are
seeing the conference room and not just</v>

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00:46:50.390 --> 00:46:52.396
<v Hafner, Courtney>the question slide anymore.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Anybody can answer?</v>

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<v Marc Miller>Yes,
we're just seeing the conference room.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>OK.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>So it's just us.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Was the questions like generally speaking,
I guess for his presentation, but.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Yes.
Should we move on to a next point or</v>

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00:47:13.749 --> 00:47:17.466
<v Hafner, Courtney>seems like we have no more questions on
Mark's slide marks?</v>

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00:47:17.466 --> 00:47:20.346
<v Hafner, Courtney>Here is there anyone else anything about
what Mark talked about?</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>All right. OK.</v>

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<v Boolish, Marc>All right.</v>

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<v Boolish, Marc>Thank you.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Thanks mark.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>So OK.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Well,
then I guess I'm going to start going</v>

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00:47:37.981 --> 00:47:40.026
<v Hafner, Courtney>through some of the background questions.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>So I guess one of the things is in terms
of actual products, what products,</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>battery products would people like to see?</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>In in the stewardship program that are
currently in Maine's program.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Yep, go ahead.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Oh, oh, yes. Oh, OK.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Oh, like including EV batteries.
And I would love to see the state of</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Maine have every battery that is utilized
in here.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Have some level of stewardship because
batteries will never diminish in their</v>

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00:48:25.537 --> 00:48:29.581
<v Hafner, Courtney>value and all batteries big and small
like the big old tractor ones and the</v>

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00:48:29.581 --> 00:48:33.466
<v Hafner, Courtney>little ones that are super hard to remove.
They're all gonna have value.</v>

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00:48:34.196 --> 00:48:37.076
<v Hafner, Courtney>So I would love to see us have a
stewardship program for all.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>And yeah,
each battery has its own little unique</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>story.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>But I don't see dismissing some battery
from stewardship as unless I'm misreading</v>

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00:48:47.994 --> 00:48:49.706
<v Hafner, Courtney>or misunderstanding. OK.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Could I ask what batteries you would see
is like I think for example like like.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Well so I'll throw out for example.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Currently V batteries is is what it means,
something that we worthwhile.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Would that be more appropriate to have a
program that's for?</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>That's dealerships are part of as opposed
to something that's a state oversaw</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>program?</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>So that's this program that's in in this
type of program.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>I've got mark. So yeah, so Mark.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>You're up.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Mark Draper. Sorry.</v>

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<v Marc Miller>Oh, Mark Draper. OK, my apologies.</v>

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<v Mark Draper>Well,
there's a lot of marks on this call I</v>

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<v Mark Draper>noticed.</v>

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<v Marc Miller>We're we're talking about EV batteries.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Yeah.</v>

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<v Marc Miller>So that's why I thought it was me.</v>

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<v Mark Draper>Yeah.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Hello.</v>

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<v Marc Miller>Thank you.</v>

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<v Mark Draper>No. Yep. Thank you, Brian.</v>

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<v Mark Draper>I'm mark Draper.</v>

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<v Mark Draper>I'm with Aroostic waste solutions.</v>

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00:49:45.616 --> 00:49:52.101
<v Mark Draper>Run municipal solid waste landfill and A
and a transfer station a recycling center.</v>

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00:49:52.101 --> 00:49:55.807
<v Mark Draper>I mean,
obviously I think what has brought this</v>

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<v Mark Draper>issue to the forefront has been lithium
ion batteries,</v>

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<v Mark Draper>particularly from our standpoint.
Just anecdotally last Week 2 fires in the</v>

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<v Mark Draper>landfill.</v>

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<v Mark Draper>One of which?</v>

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<v Mark Draper>Determine specifically from a lithium ion
battery.</v>

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<v Mark Draper>The other one we were never able to
determine the cause of, but.</v>

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<v Mark Draper>And my only comment on that was and
listening to some of the other</v>

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<v Mark Draper>conversations I've heard is.</v>

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<v Mark Draper>You know,
I think from the standpoint that we can</v>

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<v Mark Draper>implement or when I say we the state can
implement a program that gets as many of</v>

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00:50:33.096 --> 00:50:38.398
<v Mark Draper>these batteries out of the waste stream
as quickly as possible is what the least</v>

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00:50:38.398 --> 00:50:41.016
<v Mark Draper>the first kind of the first goal around.</v>

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<v Mark Draper>On the 1st priority should be.
I hate the thought of we're going to hold</v>

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<v Mark Draper>up an entire program for moving forward
because we have some, you know,</v>

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<v Mark Draper>the embedded batteries.</v>

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<v Mark Draper>Obviously that's a problem.</v>

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<v Mark Draper>EV batteries, obviously an issue.</v>

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<v Mark Draper>But we may have to work on some of those.
You know,</v>

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00:50:59.884 --> 00:51:04.205
<v Mark Draper>a problem for a later day type of thing.
But I guess my suggestion would be to try</v>

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00:51:04.205 --> 00:51:08.319
<v Mark Draper>to come up with a program that gets as
many of these lithium ion batteries out</v>

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00:51:08.319 --> 00:51:09.256
<v Mark Draper>of the waste stre.</v>

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00:51:09.256 --> 00:51:10.216
<v Mark Draper>As quickly as possible.</v>

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<v Mark Draper>And you know and and keep working on the
others obviously, but you know,</v>

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<v Mark Draper>I'm again speaking from my sector of this
issue.</v>

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00:51:22.216 --> 00:51:24.056
<v Mark Draper>Literally, the trash is full of batteries.</v>

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00:51:25.856 --> 00:51:29.458
<v Mark Draper>While while just again anecdotally,
of course these fires never happened</v>

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<v Mark Draper>during the day,
one of them were out in the dark and</v>

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<v Mark Draper>literally while we're fighting this fire.</v>

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00:51:35.736 --> 00:51:38.993
<v Mark Draper>One of the firefighters points to a
flashing light in the trash in a</v>

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00:51:38.993 --> 00:51:40.456
<v Mark Draper>different part of the landfill.</v>

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00:51:40.766 --> 00:51:45.566
<v Mark Draper>And I walked over and there's a kids toy
flashing away with batteries in it.</v>

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00:51:45.606 --> 00:51:50.035
<v Mark Draper>So our joke then was, well,
there's a next fire. We were gonna have.</v>

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<v Mark Draper>So, so I'll just.</v>

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<v Mark Draper>I'll leave it at that.</v>

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<v Mark Draper>That's I think there is from least my
perspective,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/6638-1
00:51:55.054 --> 00:51:58.566
<v Mark Draper>A level of urgency to move as quickly as
we can on these.</v>

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00:51:58.726 --> 00:51:59.686
<v Mark Draper>So appreciate that.</v>

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<v Mark Draper>Thank you.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Sure. Thanks mark.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Jennifer.</v>

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<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>So my two cents is both a consumer and as
a state regulator. If I had to pick one,</v>

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00:52:25.040 --> 00:52:31.186
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>it it would be lithium ion batteries,
specifically vaping devices.</v>

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<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>That is maybe #1 on our problem list
right now.</v>

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<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>As far as not having any good solutions
as far as our management program goes.</v>

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<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>I would love to see some extended
producer responsibility for that,</v>

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00:52:51.406 --> 00:52:56.336
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>and I would also like to see
manufacturers in general moving back</v>

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00:52:56.336 --> 00:52:58.726
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>toward removable battery design.</v>

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00:53:00.096 --> 00:53:01.376
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>Rather than embedded batteries.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>OK.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Mark Miller.</v>

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<v Marc Miller>Yes,
coming back to the the vehicle battery</v>

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<v Marc Miller>discussion,
the heavy truck market's a bit different</v>

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00:53:19.928 --> 00:53:24.944
<v Marc Miller>than than the light duty market for sure.
We do have customers that have their own</v>

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00:53:24.944 --> 00:53:25.306
<v Marc Miller>shops.</v>

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<v Marc Miller>And if those customers were to get
certified through us to work on our</v>

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<v Marc Miller>electric vehicles,
we would have no problem with them</v>

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00:53:33.343 --> 00:53:34.656
<v Marc Miller>removing those batteries.</v>

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<v Marc Miller>So I not necessarily like to see that
have to go through a dealership.</v>

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00:53:40.896 --> 00:53:44.336
<v Marc Miller>If the customer calls us directly and and
we arrange for.</v>

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00:53:44.606 --> 00:53:48.326
<v Marc Miller>Shipment of that battery to our recycler
or refurbisher.</v>

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<v Marc Miller>It's a possibility of of what?</v>

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00:53:52.216 --> 00:53:55.456
<v Marc Miller>Our battery management plan will look
like in the future.</v>

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<v Marc Miller>So again,
I'd like to not see it be specific to</v>

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<v Marc Miller>requiring that these batteries go back
through the dealership.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>All right. That's one in the room.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Logan. Anthony Scott,
I have a question for Jennifer.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>She seems pretty in tune with the
hazardous waste material.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Just wondering if she has any like types
of solutions.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>She seems to zone in on vapes,
specifically.</v>

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00:54:28.856 --> 00:54:33.164
<v Hafner, Courtney>Is there a way to like incinerate these
products that contain the nicotine in a</v>

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00:54:33.164 --> 00:54:34.456
<v Hafner, Courtney>device within the state?</v>

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<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>No.</v>

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<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>We don't have anywhere that I can think
of in the state that can handle these.</v>

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<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>We're looking at out West down South and
we are again,</v>

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00:54:48.326 --> 00:54:50.966
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>we're running into the issues.</v>

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<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>Of if they're going to take the batteries,
they don't want to deal with the nicotine.</v>

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00:54:57.186 --> 00:55:00.466
<v Hafner, Courtney>As the waste facilities that don't want
to take them.</v>

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<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>That's the waste facility.</v>

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00:55:00.156 --> 00:55:04.196
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>So if if it's, if you can't.</v>

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00:55:02.666 --> 00:55:03.506
<v Hafner, Courtney>Can you nod him?</v>

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<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>If you can't take the vape apart.</v>

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<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>I don't know of any universal waste
recycling facility that wants to take</v>

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00:55:12.406 --> 00:55:17.690
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>them because they don't want to receive
the acute hazardous waste and they may</v>

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<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>not be licensed for it either.</v>

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<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>You know,
I I don't know how familiar you are with</v>

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00:55:23.306 --> 00:55:26.896
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>management method codes on a hazardous
waste manifest.</v>

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00:55:28.656 --> 00:55:29.536
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>Receiving facilities.</v>

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00:55:30.126 --> 00:55:36.303
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>Are granted authorization to deal with
hazardous waste using certain treatment</v>

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00:55:36.303 --> 00:55:40.135
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>methods,
and if that facility isn't licensed for</v>

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00:55:40.135 --> 00:55:45.686
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>that particular management method code,
they cannot accept that waste.</v>

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00:55:46.286 --> 00:55:50.893
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>So if that universal waste that battery
recycling facility is not also licensed</v>

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00:55:50.893 --> 00:55:54.981
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>to accept nicotine and treat it,
they're not going to want to take the</v>

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00:55:54.981 --> 00:55:55.326
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>vapes.</v>

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00:55:56.516 --> 00:55:58.036
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>Same thing with any cannabis.</v>

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00:56:01.086 --> 00:56:06.670
<v Hafner, Courtney>For the real problem lies in the devices
that are embedded and can't be separated</v>

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00:56:06.670 --> 00:56:10.006
<v Hafner, Courtney>from cannabis or nicotine.
And it's countrywide.</v>

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<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>Right,
we need to be able to separate the waste</v>

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00:56:10.447 --> 00:56:15.455
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>streams since there are very few, if any,
facilities that are willing and able to</v>

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00:56:15.455 --> 00:56:16.676
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>deal with all three.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>And in the state of Maine,
you're not allowed to like,</v>

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00:56:20.688 --> 00:56:23.266
<v Hafner, Courtney>we want to be able to incinerate them
here.</v>

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<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>No,
you'd you'd if you're incinerating</v>

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00:56:27.244 --> 00:56:30.615
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>nicotine,
you'd have to get licensed as a hazardous</v>

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00:56:30.615 --> 00:56:32.236
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>waste receiving facility.</v>

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00:56:40.586 --> 00:56:41.106
<v Hafner, Courtney>OK.</v>

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00:56:42.536 --> 00:56:44.616
<v Hafner, Courtney>Well, Henryk was first. Henrik first,
yeah.</v>

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<v Henrique Martins>Yeah. Hi. So.</v>

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<v Henrique Martins>Representing the Motorcycle Industry
Council and I just want to highlight,</v>

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<v Henrique Martins>as Mark Miller comment about the have
heavy industry.</v>

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<v Henrique Martins>The motorcycle industry and a motor
sports also.</v>

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<v Henrique Martins>It's very different than the the auto
industry.</v>

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<v Henrique Martins>The the clean energy is at really early
stage.</v>

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<v Henrique Martins>Motorcycles, Motor Sports Z bikes.
As you know,</v>

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<v Henrique Martins>they're currently not getting,
they're not eligible for getting any</v>

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<v Henrique Martins>scientific,
any subsidies or tax incentives.</v>

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<v Henrique Martins>So if they are included in any EPR.</v>

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<v Henrique Martins>Program right now.</v>

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<v Henrique Martins>This will probably just 'cause most of
these companies to just.</v>

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<v Henrique Martins>Decide to leave the US or or or or,
you know close close business.</v>

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<v Henrique Martins>The volumes, especially for motorcycles.</v>

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<v Henrique Martins>And and motor sports.</v>

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<v Henrique Martins>EVs are extremely low,
so and and most of several of the these</v>

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<v Henrique Martins>manufacturers,
they have their own stewardship programs.</v>

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<v Henrique Martins>They they're coming from Europe,
from other places,</v>

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<v Henrique Martins>but the burden of having to.</v>

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<v Henrique Martins>You follow a specific programs with
specific reports and and maybe different</v>

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<v Henrique Martins>states having different falling different
programs.</v>

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<v Henrique Martins>At this time I think it will be more
counter productive thinking about like</v>

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<v Henrique Martins>you know long term to promote clean
energy.</v>

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<v Henrique Martins>Then.</v>

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<v Henrique Martins>If they're included in this purse,
so we we are.</v>

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<v Henrique Martins>Purging.</v>

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<v Henrique Martins>This group to at this time.</v>

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<v Henrique Martins>To exclude motorcycles and and and and
motor sports vehicles and and hopefully</v>

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<v Henrique Martins>you know at a later time when when the
industry is more stable.</v>

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<v Henrique Martins>Then come back to that.</v>

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<v Henrique Martins>So this is more like thinking long term
in in, in.</v>

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<v Henrique Martins>Clean mobility and and the environment.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>OK.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Alright, thank you.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Back to the room.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>It says hang up goes first. Yep.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Good. What?</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>I want to see what other things would
this three hour meeting, right?</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>We're getting started. Let's go.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>OK, Mark, Mark Miller.</v>

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<v Marc Miller>Yeah. Thank you.</v>

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<v Marc Miller>I'd just like to piggyback something on
that. Enrique just mentioned, you know,</v>

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<v Marc Miller>with with heavy truck.</v>

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<v Marc Miller>This is a very early stage market.</v>

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<v Marc Miller>It's still in its infancy for electric
vehicles, so there are very few out there.</v>

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<v Marc Miller>When you look at the the total number of
vehicles in in circulation.</v>

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<v Marc Miller>And the volumes sales volumes are very
low.</v>

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<v Marc Miller>The cost parity is not there yet between
an electric vehicle and a diesel,</v>

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<v Marc Miller>even with incentives.</v>

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<v Marc Miller>So the numbers of these batteries that
are in circulation.</v>

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<v Marc Miller>Or will be in circulation within the next
you know 5 to 10 years is well,</v>

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<v Marc Miller>I'll say five years is is fairly low and
I think that's something good to keep in</v>

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<v Marc Miller>mind with respect to the vehicle
batteries, that's all.</v>

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<v Marc Miller>Thank you.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Thank you, mark.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>I I will just kind of throw out a general
question because like Maine's law is</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>specific to rechargeable batteries.
I am assuming there is.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>A desire to expand that to what we would
refer to as primary batteries.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>I.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>The the one use batteries.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Does anybody have any comments about?</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Including primary batteries.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>To Maine's program,
since they're no longer part of it.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Not no longer,
but since they are not part of it.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Thank you, mark.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Yeah. Owen and the mark question.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>On.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>So when I think about what you're
describing with the primary battery,</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>one use only.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>That to me sounds or feels more like an
embedded or integrated battery that was</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>not designed to be removed.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>And the reason that I say that is
typically these rechargeable batteries</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>that are used in a consumer product.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>They they're buying hundreds if not
thousands of batteries.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>And they're buying them from the same
manufacturer that then packages</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>themselves them in the store as just a
recycle battery so that the batteries on</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>the inside of these.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Where we're debating the integrated
aspect of it,</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>it seems like rechargeable batteries.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>With much less fit,
the definition of an integrated battery.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>But that's just I'm wondering if you view
the same primary would be might not</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>easily removable.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>No, no, I'm not talking about.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>We I'm talking about your your basic D's.
Your C's, your AAA, those batteries,</v>

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01:02:34.360 --> 01:02:41.640
<v Hafner, Courtney>the batteries you buy as a consumer to
put into your device, your remote control,</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>your remote control,
your that those batteries are not</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>currently part of the program.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>That's, that's and that's the question is,
is.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Is there input into yes yes.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Should we include primary batteries?</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>For reference,
our battery laws came out in 91,</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>so please keep that in mind.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Right. Could I?</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Could we so nickel,
cadmium and is it SSDL?</v>

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01:03:12.206 --> 01:03:13.206
<v Hafner, Courtney>Is that the acronym?</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Those are the batteries that are
currently covered.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>What are those batteries?</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>I just assumed.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>I guess I never really thought about it,
but they are the old.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>They are the old school rechargeable for
the old tools that just kinda shows how</v>

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01:03:29.938 --> 01:03:31.686
<v Hafner, Courtney>old our our law is.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>And so and like for example like so the
collection system that's currently in</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>place for rechargeable batteries.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>A lot of primary batteries get put into
those boxes because the consumer doesn't</v>

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01:03:48.788 --> 01:03:53.214
<v Hafner, Courtney>know or doesn't want to know that it's
only for rechargeables,</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>and then they they they join the system
and what's kind of referred to as like a</v>

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01:03:58.906 --> 01:04:01.576
<v Hafner, Courtney>free rider because the current system.</v>

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01:04:02.086 --> 01:04:03.766
<v Hafner, Courtney>Is paid for by.</v>

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01:04:05.336 --> 01:04:10.286
<v Hafner, Courtney>Rechargeable producers.
And so when there's batteries that get</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>into the system that.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Aren't being from a producer.</v>

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01:04:15.416 --> 01:04:18.416
<v Hafner, Courtney>They they they call to recycle doesn't
pull them.</v>

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01:04:19.376 --> 01:04:24.153
<v Hafner, Courtney>They still have to process them so they
they get into the system and are treated</v>

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01:04:24.153 --> 01:04:25.096
<v Hafner, Courtney>as a free rider.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>So I would definitely point people to the.</v>

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01:04:30.136 --> 01:04:31.736
<v Hafner, Courtney>This year's product Stewardship report
because.</v>

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01:04:32.006 --> 01:04:35.889
<v Hafner, Courtney>There was a pretty good write up about
that situation,</v>

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01:04:35.889 --> 01:04:41.397
<v Hafner, Courtney>so and so now we're gonna move to the
Internet world and I'll start with Mark</v>

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01:04:41.397 --> 01:04:42.526
<v Hafner, Courtney>and then Amanda.</v>

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<v Boolish, Marc>Yeah.
And maybe this is probably a mixture of</v>

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<v Boolish, Marc>questions and comments.</v>

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<v Boolish, Marc>So typically, yeah,
maybe we shouldn't use the word primary</v>

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<v Boolish, Marc>here.</v>

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<v Boolish, Marc>Primary normally in some discussions
means a non rechargeable battery,</v>

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01:04:56.992 --> 01:05:00.809
<v Boolish, Marc>so I'll I'll start saying non
rechargeable as opposed to primary.</v>

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<v Boolish, Marc>So I can just speak.
I can speak to what the model that I that</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>512.</v>

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<v Boolish, Marc>I mentioned and what the other states
have done.</v>

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01:05:08.856 --> 01:05:13.114
<v Boolish, Marc>The the model bill and then the laws that
have been passed, they cover all types,</v>

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<v Boolish, Marc>essentially all types.</v>

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<v Boolish, Marc>Like I said, there are some exemptions.</v>

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01:05:17.256 --> 01:05:21.687
<v Boolish, Marc>So they would cover your AA's,
your you know your lithium ion type.</v>

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01:05:21.687 --> 01:05:26.313
<v Boolish, Marc>So it would cover all types non
rechargeable and rechargeable that are</v>

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01:05:26.313 --> 01:05:27.616
<v Boolish, Marc>considered portable.</v>

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<v Boolish, Marc>And then it, but it as I mentioned,
it does exclude the embedded batteries</v>

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01:05:33.031 --> 01:05:36.336
<v Boolish, Marc>and again embedded means they're not
easily removable without.</v>

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01:05:37.976 --> 01:05:40.002
<v Boolish, Marc>You know,
they're not intended to be removed from</v>

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01:05:40.002 --> 01:05:41.096
<v Boolish, Marc>the device by the consumer.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>That's a big difference.</v>

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01:05:48.666 --> 01:05:53.146
<v Hafner, Courtney>Easily removable, intended to be removed,
or very different things.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>OK.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Thank you, mark. Amanda.</v>

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<v Amanda Campbell>Hi, good afternoon everybody.</v>

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<v Amanda Campbell>Can you hear me?</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Yes.</v>

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<v Amanda Campbell>Great.
I'm Amanda Campbell from The Maine</v>

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01:06:06.300 --> 01:06:10.061
<v Amanda Campbell>Municipal Association,
and I'm just my thoughts along the</v>

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01:06:10.061 --> 01:06:14.924
<v Amanda Campbell>primary batteries would be because we
already have a system to collect the</v>

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01:06:14.924 --> 01:06:20.176
<v Amanda Campbell>rechargeable ones at a transfer stations
through the municipal collection sites.</v>

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01:06:20.176 --> 01:06:24.456
<v Amanda Campbell>And since clearly people are already
bringing the batteries that.</v>

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01:06:24.456 --> 01:06:27.376
<v Amanda Campbell>Don't qualify to those collection sites
as well.</v>

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01:06:28.016 --> 01:06:33.750
<v Amanda Campbell>It seems like a natural progression that
you could add that in and based on the</v>

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01:06:33.750 --> 01:06:39.556
<v Amanda Campbell>little chart in the background document
in the the eight years that you have for</v>

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01:06:39.556 --> 01:06:44.286
<v Amanda Campbell>data here, that was just over 63,
000 primary batteries that were</v>

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01:06:44.286 --> 01:06:47.296
<v Amanda Campbell>accidentally recycled. And so think about.</v>

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01:06:47.296 --> 01:06:50.399
<v Amanda Campbell>How many that could be if people actually
knew that they were doing taking the</v>

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01:06:50.399 --> 01:06:51.656
<v Amanda Campbell>right things to the right place?</v>

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01:06:52.776 --> 01:06:56.536
<v Amanda Campbell>MY1 caveat to that, of course,
is because this is municipal operations.</v>

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01:06:57.926 --> 01:07:03.446
<v Amanda Campbell>That additional recycling effort cannot
be paid for by the taxpayers.</v>

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01:07:03.486 --> 01:07:07.294
<v Amanda Campbell>So you know, yes,
transfer stations and municipal officials</v>

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01:07:07.294 --> 01:07:11.418
<v Amanda Campbell>want to do their part,
but it it just can't be funded, you know,</v>

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01:07:11.418 --> 01:07:13.766
<v Amanda Campbell>on the on the backs of the taxpayers.</v>

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01:07:16.486 --> 01:07:20.095
<v Amanda Campbell>For for any of these programs that we're
talking about, you know,</v>

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01:07:20.095 --> 01:07:24.086
<v Amanda Campbell>again we want to do our part,
but not we don't want to pay for our part.</v>

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01:07:24.086 --> 01:07:24.526
<v Amanda Campbell>You know what I mean?</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Right. OK. OK. Thanks, Amanda.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Nope.</v>

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01:07:34.726 --> 01:07:37.646
<v Hafner, Courtney>So so how come not like a pay to play
type?</v>

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01:07:39.136 --> 01:07:43.337
<v Hafner, Courtney>Program where you're going,
you pay an increase and then you get a</v>

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01:07:43.337 --> 01:07:46.096
<v Hafner, Courtney>redemption or something at the end of
life.</v>

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01:07:48.096 --> 01:07:52.289
<v Hafner, Courtney>Like all batteries across the board,
so if you go to Best Buy and you get an</v>

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01:07:52.289 --> 01:07:55.066
<v Hafner, Courtney>embedded laptop,
there's like a hazardous or not a</v>

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01:07:55.066 --> 01:07:58.061
<v Hafner, Courtney>hazardous waste.
But there's like an environmental fee</v>

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01:07:58.061 --> 01:08:01.056
<v Hafner, Courtney>that's attached to it,
same as like any other product.</v>

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01:08:01.456 --> 01:08:04.572
<v Hafner, Courtney>I mean,
you can kind of like set it up as kind of</v>

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01:08:04.572 --> 01:08:04.696
<v Hafner, Courtney>a?</v>

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01:08:05.726 --> 01:08:10.020
<v Hafner, Courtney>Retailers or whatnot could set it up as
some sort of like a sales tax.</v>

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01:08:10.020 --> 01:08:14.132
<v Hafner, Courtney>We already are used to doing that,
you know, in the state of Maine,</v>

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01:08:14.132 --> 01:08:16.006
<v Hafner, Courtney>but it can be certain products.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>You can categorize it pretty quickly in a
lot of POS systems that just run it as a</v>

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01:08:21.726 --> 01:08:22.966
<v Hafner, Courtney>environmental fee.</v>

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01:08:23.486 --> 01:08:25.046
<v Hafner, Courtney>So and then not even.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>I mean,
you don't have to give a redemption just</v>

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01:08:27.930 --> 01:08:30.166
<v Hafner, Courtney>that way. If this guy over here, he's.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>A connoisseur of every type of battery.</v>

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01:08:32.456 --> 01:08:33.656
<v Hafner, Courtney>But he's paying.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>That's what he wants to do.</v>

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01:08:35.166 --> 01:08:39.966
<v Hafner, Courtney>He pays for it and it all down the road,
and he barely uses any battery.</v>

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01:08:39.966 --> 01:08:44.650
<v Hafner, Courtney>See the rechargeable type of guide.
He only has to buy one set of batteries</v>

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01:08:44.650 --> 01:08:46.006
<v Hafner, Courtney>every year, sales tax.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>So.
So that would be a system of a point of</v>

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01:08:51.187 --> 01:08:53.376
<v Hafner, Courtney>sale. Yeah. Fee as opposed to.</v>

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01:08:55.576 --> 01:08:59.584
<v Hafner, Courtney>More of a producer run where the
producers kind of pay into the system</v>

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01:08:59.584 --> 01:09:04.042
<v Hafner, Courtney>based on what their sales are and what
what the what the retailers handle with</v>

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01:09:04.042 --> 01:09:04.776
<v Hafner, Courtney>the consumer.</v>

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01:09:05.956 --> 01:09:06.836
<v Hafner, Courtney>And work it out.</v>

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01:09:09.606 --> 01:09:13.880
<v Hafner, Courtney>Give one more still behind one of the
comments I make is that like coming from</v>

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01:09:13.880 --> 01:09:18.262
<v Hafner, Courtney>a more fragmented industry like the the
vape and tobacco industry and stuff that</v>

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01:09:18.262 --> 01:09:22.482
<v Hafner, Courtney>a lot of these producers are not these
big companies that we think of when we</v>

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01:09:22.482 --> 01:09:23.456
<v Hafner, Courtney>think of you know.</v>

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01:09:23.456 --> 01:09:24.326
<v Hafner, Courtney>A company that makes batteries.</v>

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01:09:24.326 --> 01:09:27.100
<v Hafner, Courtney>So my concern is that the enforcement
across state lines,</v>

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01:09:27.100 --> 01:09:29.251
<v Hafner, Courtney>I understand seeing those products in
shops,</v>

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01:09:29.251 --> 01:09:32.837
<v Hafner, Courtney>but I question if the enforcement is
going to be consistent enough whereas</v>

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01:09:32.837 --> 01:09:36.806
<v Hafner, Courtney>that's why I was kind of mention earlier
like there's different sales tax rate on.</v>

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01:09:37.536 --> 01:09:39.136
<v Hafner, Courtney>These that process is already being
audited.</v>

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01:09:39.486 --> 01:09:43.922
<v Hafner, Courtney>It's on the retailer and I as a retailer
would rather see that then see a lot of</v>

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01:09:43.922 --> 01:09:47.646
<v Hafner, Courtney>people skirting the rules and not
actually partaking as a producer.</v>

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01:09:47.646 --> 01:09:50.021
<v Hafner, Courtney>Like say when you go to like a big
national company like,</v>

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01:09:50.021 --> 01:09:52.886
<v Hafner, Courtney>it's easy to regulate them and they're
going to automatically comply.</v>

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01:09:52.886 --> 01:09:55.108
<v Hafner, Courtney>My concern is when you get into these
smaller,</v>

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01:09:55.108 --> 01:09:58.039
<v Hafner, Courtney>fragmented industries and it's not just
the tobacco and vape,</v>

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01:09:58.039 --> 01:10:00.733
<v Hafner, Courtney>it's just smaller industry in general,
when there's not,</v>

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01:10:00.733 --> 01:10:03.806
<v Hafner, Courtney>it's not clear that that producer fee has
necessarily been paid.</v>

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01:10:03.806 --> 01:10:07.246
<v Hafner, Courtney>It's not clear that they're reporting the
correct numbers coming into the state.</v>

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01:10:07.566 --> 01:10:11.540
<v Hafner, Courtney>Whereas I've been through the sales tax
audit process and I can show you that</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>process is extremely robust and all those
tools are already there to make sure that</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>things are being categorized correctly.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>And that's why I kinda mentioned that
earlier.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>So just fragmented industries is a
concern to me, OK?</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>If we can get Katie real quick, yeah.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>Hi all.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>Thanks. Just wanted to, well,
I have two comments.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>The first is to address the comment
around like a deposit system or sales tax</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>or fee.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>That has not been adopted anywhere else
for products outside of the state of</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>California,
and I would highly suggest that folks</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>connect in with Maine retailers for their
viewpoints on how they view those kind of</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>fees and systems.
It has been met with heavy opposition.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>Everywhere outside of the state of
California just wanted to make folks</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>aware that.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>On the other point, I wanted to make,
I wanted to echo what Mark Draper said.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>I think we can work on battery embedded
products,</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>but I think we need a more thoughtful
dialogue and discussion that's specific</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>to battery embedded products as we've
been hearing here.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>Products range from vapes to cell phones
to toys to vehicles.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>We have a program in place for some.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>Products like the electronics.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>EPR program here, right.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>You can return your laptop doesn't matter
if it's an embedded battery or a</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>removable battery,
but not all product types will be</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>compatible with the same recycling system.
So I think we need to be really</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>thoughtful on exploring separate programs
for separate products where it's</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>warranted.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>And so I guess the point I was echoing
from Mark is you know, take the kind of.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>The you know, don't hold up a program.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>That you could have for loose batteries
by the complexity of how to handle very</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>very different product types that contain
batteries.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>OK.
So I mean just to summarize what phased</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>approach?</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>That the what?</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>I'll say go go for the low hanging fruit,
so to speak with the recharge removables</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>and primaries and and spend more time
talking about how to address embedded</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>products.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>That's probably a good way to rephrase it.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>I don't know that I'd say low hanging
fruit.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>I don't know if that loose battery
industry would necessarily agree with</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>that or not, but I would say it's,
you know,</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Oh.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>there are systems that are in place,
laws that have been passed around loose</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>batteries throughout the United States.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>We're looking at discussing something
very new here with battery,</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>embedded products,
and so it may just be a longer kind of</v>

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01:13:00.740 --> 01:13:05.806
<v Katie Reilly>runway or ramp in how to address the
complexity of battery embedded products.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>And the wide range of product types that
fit within you know that battery embedded</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>product definition.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>OK.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Thanks, Katie. Right.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Anyone in the room?</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Yeah, excellent pushback on that.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Just a little bit first.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>If it's all being discussed now,
it's probably the right time to discuss</v>

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01:13:26.686 --> 01:13:26.976
<v Hafner, Courtney>it all.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Granted,
there are some products that are going to</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>be more complicated than others.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>But also if the program becomes some
variation of a stewardship program,</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>there's the more products and companies
and industries probably is a better way</v>

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01:13:43.038 --> 01:13:43.656
<v Hafner, Courtney>to say it.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>That are included means it's a.
It's going to be a larger stewardship pot</v>

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01:13:49.308 --> 01:13:54.104
<v Hafner, Courtney>of money to pay for all of this.
That mene is dealing with and I guess I</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>think if I'm thinking about it from a
political standpoint.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>But you start one place and then the
opposition kind of goes on and on and on,</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>and it gets a lot more complicated to get
the other products that are ultimately</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>should be a part of the program into the
program.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>So I understand the complications.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Become embedded and removable.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>But it would be my.
It's my thought that it's with all that</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>complication.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>It's probably still better to do it all
at once. Mm-hmm. OK.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Thank you for all of those reasons.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>I mean as as as kind of mark was saying
too that I mean he and looking at that</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>one fire there was an embedded ready to
go.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>So yeah, OK, so.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>And it was kids toy, not a vape device,
so.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>I kinda wanted to to to build on that and
then build on something that Brett said</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>with the product stewardship for
packaging that was recently gone through.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>I think it and correct me if I'm wrong
because I didn't really follow that super</v>

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01:14:59.860 --> 01:15:01.976
<v Hafner, Courtney>closely, but it seemed more similar.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>To what?</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>He was describing which was this is for
packaging and then individuals had to go.</v>

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01:15:10.856 --> 01:15:13.016
<v Hafner, Courtney>And lobby and say why they should be
exempt.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Right. So if this is for batteries,
then you will get an engender the</v>

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01:15:19.583 --> 01:15:24.206
<v Hafner, Courtney>industry to come and try to tell you why
they should be exempt.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>But I believe we should start at a place
that covers all batteries and then not</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>kind of like start at a place where we're
just grabbing these segments that we</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>think are low hanging fruit and maybe
they are in certain senses.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>But instead of looking at the the.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Grander total. And then what?</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Brett was saying.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>More specifically to enforcement,
and I am kind of curious how the</v>

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01:15:51.346 --> 01:15:55.566
<v Hafner, Courtney>stewardship programs and the style you
construct them.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Lends itself well or not for enforcement
and so.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>In last session we had that product
stewardship for electronic smoking</v>

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01:16:06.327 --> 01:16:08.616
<v Hafner, Courtney>devices and DEP was going to enforce that.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>So that what was there was a high level
of confidence that you all were ready to</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>roll that program out.</v>

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01:16:15.926 --> 01:16:19.846
<v Hafner, Courtney>Do the program and have the enforcement
under your purview?</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>So I'm just kind of curious as it relates
to this program,</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>what is your methodology for ensuring
that you actually have enforcement?</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Because I do think it ties into the
trackability and metrics and things,</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>and I assume that you've spent some time
putting that enforcement arm together</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>because, like, without enforcement,
all of this is kind of pointless, right?</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Right. Well, I see.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>I mean enforcement for for a lot of fire
stewardship products.</v>

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01:16:45.016 --> 01:16:46.216
<v Hafner, Courtney>Is that is that?</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>The enforcement is #1 issue is if the
product is not participating then it's</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>can't be sold in the state.</v>

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01:16:54.726 --> 01:16:58.366
<v Hafner, Courtney>So again paint packaging.</v>

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01:17:00.296 --> 01:17:05.407
<v Hafner, Courtney>You know,
there's a certain there's a requirement</v>

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01:17:05.407 --> 01:17:05.816
<v Hafner, Courtney>for.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>For covered electronic devices to report
their sales and be part of the program,</v>

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01:17:14.554 --> 01:17:16.096
<v Hafner, Courtney>and if they don't.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Then they're on a do not sell list.</v>

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01:17:19.526 --> 01:17:26.992
<v Hafner, Courtney>So that's and then it's just up to the
department to have the staff to do that</v>

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01:17:26.992 --> 01:17:28.126
<v Hafner, Courtney>enforcement.</v>

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01:17:31.286 --> 01:17:32.926
<v Hafner, Courtney>Let's hear from Katie real quick.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Yeah. OK, Katie.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>Yeah. Thanks.</v>

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01:17:36.746 --> 01:17:40.946
<v Katie Reilly>I did just wanna respectfully push back a
little bit on the last two comments.</v>

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01:17:41.026 --> 01:17:46.841
<v Katie Reilly>So we have a long history of electronic
product EPR here in the US,</v>

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01:17:46.841 --> 01:17:48.466
<v Katie Reilly>including in Maine.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>Again,
I just want to stress that loose</v>

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01:17:51.281 --> 01:17:55.885
<v Katie Reilly>batteries are a very different collection
system than collecting products,</v>

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01:17:55.885 --> 01:17:59.506
<v Katie Reilly>so we don't want to lump in products with
a loose battery.</v>

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01:18:00.296 --> 01:18:03.501
<v Katie Reilly>Collection system and program and then
again on products.</v>

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01:18:03.501 --> 01:18:05.656
<v Katie Reilly>Different products will have different.</v>

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01:18:06.046 --> 01:18:08.522
<v Katie Reilly>Different needs,
I think as a first step we need to</v>

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01:18:08.522 --> 01:18:10.046
<v Katie Reilly>determine the scope of products.</v>

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01:18:10.046 --> 01:18:13.406
<v Katie Reilly>What all is captured in battery embedded
products?</v>

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01:18:13.406 --> 01:18:18.740
<v Katie Reilly>Then we need to confirm what type of
recycling systems either exist for those</v>

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01:18:18.740 --> 01:18:23.526
<v Katie Reilly>products and or need to be developed and
built up for those products.</v>

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01:18:23.566 --> 01:18:28.766
<v Katie Reilly>We can't just lump all products into one
system getting a battery.</v>

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01:18:28.766 --> 01:18:32.941
<v Katie Reilly>A battery that may be embedded in a
vehicle is very different than recovering</v>

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01:18:32.941 --> 01:18:36.046
<v Katie Reilly>a battery from a laptop that has an
existing electronics.</v>

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01:18:36.166 --> 01:18:39.486
<v Katie Reilly>Cycling system active here in the United
States.</v>

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01:18:39.486 --> 01:18:40.246
<v Katie Reilly>So I just.</v>

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01:18:40.366 --> 01:18:46.156
<v Katie Reilly>I really want to stress that that a above
all approach for all products is probably</v>

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01:18:46.156 --> 01:18:48.086
<v Katie Reilly>not the path that should be.</v>

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01:18:48.086 --> 01:18:49.486
<v Katie Reilly>We should be looking at going down.</v>

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01:18:53.336 --> 01:18:53.496
<v Hafner, Courtney>OK.</v>

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01:18:53.736 --> 01:18:54.336
<v Hafner, Courtney>We have the room.</v>

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01:18:56.136 --> 01:18:57.976
<v Hafner, Courtney>Thanks for your comments, Katie.</v>

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01:18:58.736 --> 01:19:02.921
<v Hafner, Courtney>I I'm agreeing with you that you know,
I think it's gonna be difficult to</v>

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01:19:02.921 --> 01:19:07.332
<v Hafner, Courtney>encompass one huge like it sounds good,
but you're gonna have a lot of people</v>

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01:19:07.332 --> 01:19:10.386
<v Hafner, Courtney>lobbying against why their products
should be exempt,</v>

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01:19:10.386 --> 01:19:11.856
<v Hafner, Courtney>just like the packing law.</v>

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01:19:11.976 --> 01:19:15.396
<v Hafner, Courtney>You're gonna have some industries that
are gonna get wiped out like Brian's</v>

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01:19:15.396 --> 01:19:18.096
<v Hafner, Courtney>saying here, like, oh,
it's a prohibition on that products.</v>

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01:19:18.096 --> 01:19:20.736
<v Hafner, Courtney>Well, why do you wanna prohibit profit?</v>

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01:19:21.616 --> 01:19:24.696
<v Hafner, Courtney>Products as opposed to like figuring out
a way where we're here sitting.</v>

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01:19:24.846 --> 01:19:29.246
<v Hafner, Courtney>At the table trying to figure out a way
to be able to recycle these products.</v>

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01:19:30.776 --> 01:19:31.816
<v Hafner, Courtney>I think that's the way to do it.</v>

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01:19:31.816 --> 01:19:36.067
<v Hafner, Courtney>I mean we we can now, you know,
Jennifer made it clear that obviously</v>

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01:19:36.067 --> 01:19:40.803
<v Hafner, Courtney>like the vapes are like one problem that
the state needs to figure out how to</v>

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01:19:40.803 --> 01:19:45.296
<v Hafner, Courtney>create a solution for and they don't
really fall into any other category.</v>

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01:19:45.296 --> 01:19:49.418
<v Hafner, Courtney>So it's a separate discussion really on
how we can get rid of those,</v>

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01:19:49.418 --> 01:19:54.376
<v Hafner, Courtney>whether that's like a retailer assisted
program or you know it's like a different.</v>

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01:19:54.566 --> 01:19:57.749
<v Hafner, Courtney>Conversation and these other batteries
that you're talking about because they're</v>

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01:19:57.749 --> 01:19:59.006
<v Hafner, Courtney>not gonna be in the same wastre.</v>

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01:20:00.616 --> 01:20:00.656
<v Hafner, Courtney>F.</v>

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01:20:00.656 --> 01:20:05.824
<v Hafner, Courtney>If I may interject one thing,
one of our biggest issues when it comes</v>

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01:20:05.824 --> 01:20:11.878
<v Hafner, Courtney>to figuring out how we're going to handle
this product stewardship program in the</v>

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01:20:11.878 --> 01:20:12.616
<v Hafner, Courtney>future is.</v>

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01:20:14.256 --> 01:20:16.576
<v Hafner, Courtney>Really comes down to who's going to pay
for it.</v>

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01:20:16.576 --> 01:20:20.574
<v Hafner, Courtney>Is it going to come down to the
manufacturer or is it going to come down</v>

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01:20:20.574 --> 01:20:23.969
<v Hafner, Courtney>to basically the consumer?
So This is why we are having these</v>

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01:20:23.969 --> 01:20:24.736
<v Hafner, Courtney>conversations.</v>

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01:20:25.046 --> 01:20:29.570
<v Hafner, Courtney>To try and figure out what even kind of
product stewardship program we want to</v>

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01:20:29.570 --> 01:20:30.486
<v Hafner, Courtney>create for this.</v>

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01:20:30.486 --> 01:20:32.326
<v Hafner, Courtney>Can that be different for different
industries?</v>

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01:20:34.296 --> 01:20:35.456
<v Hafner, Courtney>It would be tricky.</v>

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01:20:36.096 --> 01:20:38.496
<v Hafner, Courtney>Yeah, I mean, I mean,
why I don't see why not.</v>

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01:20:38.616 --> 01:20:43.458
<v Hafner, Courtney>We have VP Rs on the books for that would
be the issue of and how many eprs per</v>

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01:20:43.458 --> 01:20:45.576
<v Hafner, Courtney>batteries are we already going for?</v>

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01:20:45.576 --> 01:20:50.496
<v Hafner, Courtney>We already have an issue where let's go
back to our vaping pens if that is.</v>

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01:20:50.496 --> 01:20:52.376
<v Hafner, Courtney>Is that considered an embedded battery?</v>

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01:20:52.376 --> 01:20:54.536
<v Hafner, Courtney>Is that considered just a primary battery?</v>

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01:20:54.846 --> 01:21:00.445
<v Hafner, Courtney>Is that going into electronics so we can
divide as much as we can,</v>

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01:21:00.445 --> 01:21:03.286
<v Hafner, Courtney>but it can get exceedingly tricky.</v>

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01:21:03.316 --> 01:21:05.556
<v Hafner, Courtney>Let's hear from Katie real quick.
Then we'll come back to the room.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>Yeah, but I I understand.</v>

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01:21:08.896 --> 01:21:12.645
<v Katie Reilly>You know,
we maybe don't want 100 different</v>

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01:21:12.645 --> 01:21:15.456
<v Katie Reilly>producer responsibility programs.</v>

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01:21:15.496 --> 01:21:17.176
<v Katie Reilly>But again, I think it's going back.</v>

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01:21:17.176 --> 01:21:21.096
<v Katie Reilly>We've had industry specific EPR across
the board.</v>

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01:21:21.096 --> 01:21:21.856
<v Katie Reilly>There's one for paint.</v>

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01:21:21.856 --> 01:21:22.856
<v Katie Reilly>There's one for mattresses.</v>

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01:21:22.856 --> 01:21:27.456
<v Katie Reilly>There's one for electronics,
and again I would strongly push back.</v>

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01:21:27.456 --> 01:21:31.892
<v Katie Reilly>Vapes are not an electronic device in the
sense of being compatible with the</v>

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01:21:31.892 --> 01:21:36.155
<v Katie Reilly>recycling stream for electronics.
So I think we need to view this through</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/10522-2
01:21:36.155 --> 01:21:36.846
<v Katie Reilly>the lens of.</v>

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01:21:37.076 --> 01:21:42.178
<v Katie Reilly>Is what is the downstream recycling
options that are compatible for the</v>

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01:21:42.178 --> 01:21:47.421
<v Katie Reilly>products that are included in that
program and making sure we're building</v>

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01:21:47.421 --> 01:21:51.318
<v Katie Reilly>something holistically.
It's not just who pays for it,</v>

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01:21:51.318 --> 01:21:54.435
<v Katie Reilly>although that is obviously a big
component,</v>

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01:21:54.435 --> 01:21:57.836
<v Katie Reilly>but it's how you build a system that is
effect.</v>

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01:21:58.036 --> 01:22:01.570
<v Katie Reilly>And efficient.
And if we have an above all approach,</v>

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01:22:01.570 --> 01:22:03.236
<v Katie Reilly>we lose that opportunity.</v>

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01:22:03.806 --> 01:22:05.957
<v Katie Reilly>For a system to be effective and
efficient,</v>

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01:22:05.957 --> 01:22:08.206
<v Katie Reilly>that if we're talking about EPR producers
or.</v>

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01:22:08.796 --> 01:22:10.916
<v Katie Reilly>Obviously, financially, on the hook for.</v>

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01:22:14.806 --> 01:22:15.126
<v Hafner, Courtney>OK.</v>

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01:22:15.126 --> 01:22:18.646
<v Hafner, Courtney>Let's do one more comment with this
before we move on to our next comment, OK.</v>

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01:22:18.686 --> 01:22:19.806
<v Hafner, Courtney>So go ahead, great.</v>

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01:22:19.886 --> 01:22:24.046
<v Hafner, Courtney>And I just wanted to like Anthony agree
with Katie,</v>

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01:22:24.046 --> 01:22:30.046
<v Hafner, Courtney>as far as her perspective on like the
complexity and that misunderstanding</v>

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01:22:30.046 --> 01:22:32.366
<v Hafner, Courtney>about what one-size-fits-all.</v>

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01:22:33.886 --> 01:22:40.842
<v Hafner, Courtney>Like I want to see the state have
legislation that addresses all batteries</v>

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01:22:40.842 --> 01:22:44.366
<v Hafner, Courtney>and that within that there have to be.</v>

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01:22:44.676 --> 01:22:48.213
<v Hafner, Courtney>Nuances.
Everything is different and you wanna be</v>

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01:22:48.213 --> 01:22:50.476
<v Hafner, Courtney>efficient within these segments.</v>

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01:22:50.556 --> 01:22:57.481
<v Hafner, Courtney>Full agreement on that and I think the
main point that I've been trying to get</v>

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01:22:57.481 --> 01:23:02.214
<v Hafner, Courtney>across is that I think there are handling
ways there.</v>

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01:23:02.214 --> 01:23:08.876
<v Hafner, Courtney>People can get licensure so that they can
dismantle these devices and then.</v>

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01:23:09.686 --> 01:23:13.766
<v Hafner, Courtney>Put those batteries into this existing,
separate loose.</v>

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01:23:14.076 --> 01:23:17.636
<v Hafner, Courtney>Battery stream that is doing its own
thing.</v>

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01:23:17.636 --> 01:23:22.460
<v Hafner, Courtney>It has its own how do we get the
batteries out of the vapes and into that</v>

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01:23:22.460 --> 01:23:22.916
<v Hafner, Courtney>stream?</v>

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01:23:23.036 --> 01:23:28.359
<v Hafner, Courtney>Just batteries into that stream and we'll
work on some of the other nicotine and</v>

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01:23:28.359 --> 01:23:32.105
<v Hafner, Courtney>hazardous waste.
But once you bifurcate that and you can</v>

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01:23:32.105 --> 01:23:37.165
<v Hafner, Courtney>get those large valuable lithium ions
into the general recycling stream with</v>

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01:23:37.165 --> 01:23:39.596
<v Hafner, Courtney>the other lithium ions, I think that.</v>

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01:23:40.286 --> 01:23:45.326
<v Hafner, Courtney>'S That's maybe where I've been trying to
go and misunderstood as far as.</v>

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01:23:45.476 --> 01:23:50.647
<v Hafner, Courtney>How it integrates is to try to like get
it and put it onto that other river of</v>

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01:23:50.647 --> 01:23:53.396
<v Hafner, Courtney>batteries that are going and is efficient.</v>

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01:23:55.396 --> 01:23:59.594
<v Hafner, Courtney>Because you're right, electronic,
those devices are not efficient and can't</v>

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01:23:59.594 --> 01:24:02.356
<v Hafner, Courtney>just flow with everything else.
Absolutely agree.</v>

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01:24:08.616 --> 01:24:10.736
<v Hafner, Courtney>Next point, Katie, when you.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>No, just thank you for that clarification.
Appreciate that.</v>

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01:24:15.636 --> 01:24:19.147
<v Katie Reilly>I think maybe one thing to note as we
think about products,</v>

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01:24:19.147 --> 01:24:23.243
<v Katie Reilly>making sure to your point right,
batteries are going to flow from the</v>

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01:24:23.243 --> 01:24:26.636
<v Katie Reilly>products once they're dismantled into the
battery system.</v>

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01:24:26.636 --> 01:24:30.269
<v Katie Reilly>So make sure we're avoiding any
duplication of paying into multiple</v>

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01:24:30.269 --> 01:24:34.063
<v Katie Reilly>systems on behalf of a product.
When we look through it via that lens.</v>

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01:24:34.063 --> 01:24:36.681
<v Katie Reilly>And you know in the electronics recycling
world,</v>

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01:24:36.681 --> 01:24:41.009
<v Katie Reilly>you know our vendors have certification
programs or recyclers have certification</v>

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01:24:41.009 --> 01:24:41.436
<v Katie Reilly>program.</v>

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01:24:41.636 --> 01:24:46.017
<v Katie Reilly>That ensure batteries from electronics,
whether embedded or otherwise,</v>

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01:24:46.017 --> 01:24:50.768
<v Katie Reilly>end up at the appropriate downstream
authorized vendors for that material as</v>

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01:24:50.768 --> 01:24:51.076
<v Katie Reilly>well.</v>

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01:24:51.356 --> 01:24:51.876
<v Katie Reilly>So we do.</v>

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01:24:51.876 --> 01:24:52.396
<v Katie Reilly>Kind of.</v>

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01:24:52.396 --> 01:24:56.744
<v Katie Reilly>We address batteries as part of obviously
of the output of commodities coming out</v>

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01:24:56.744 --> 01:25:00.773
<v Katie Reilly>of the electronics recycling process.
But with that lens of let's just make</v>

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01:25:00.773 --> 01:25:04.378
<v Katie Reilly>sure we're not double counting or
requiring double payment when the</v>

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01:25:04.378 --> 01:25:08.036
<v Katie Reilly>products that contain that have batteries
in them are being managed.</v>

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01:25:08.766 --> 01:25:09.646
<v Katie Reilly>Via separate system.</v>

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01:25:12.076 --> 01:25:12.516
<v Hafner, Courtney>All right.</v>

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01:25:12.516 --> 01:25:13.756
<v Hafner, Courtney>Thank you, Katie.</v>

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01:25:13.756 --> 01:25:15.556
<v Hafner, Courtney>Should we move on to our next point?</v>

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01:25:15.556 --> 01:25:17.876
<v Hafner, Courtney>Yeah, I guess also from here I'll move on.</v>

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01:25:17.876 --> 01:25:18.716
<v Hafner, Courtney>We kind of covered.</v>

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01:25:20.686 --> 01:25:22.846
<v Hafner, Courtney>We've covered covered products.</v>

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01:25:23.166 --> 01:25:25.566
<v Hafner, Courtney>I guess I'll move on to collection and
convenience.</v>

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01:25:27.286 --> 01:25:27.926
<v Hafner, Courtney>Something.</v>

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01:25:29.726 --> 01:25:33.086
<v Hafner, Courtney>What, so I'll say what in terms of a,
So what?</v>

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01:25:33.086 --> 01:25:39.719
<v Hafner, Courtney>So what programs have convenience
standards and so for batteries or these</v>

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01:25:39.719 --> 01:25:40.526
<v Hafner, Courtney>products?</v>

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01:25:43.126 --> 01:25:43.846
<v Hafner, Courtney>Where?</v>

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01:25:44.356 --> 01:25:48.796
<v Hafner, Courtney>Where would be the best collection
locations for these products?</v>

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01:25:50.326 --> 01:25:51.966
<v Hafner, Courtney>Would it be transfer stations?</v>

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01:25:51.966 --> 01:25:53.686
<v Hafner, Courtney>Would it be retailers?</v>

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01:25:53.686 --> 01:25:55.686
<v Hafner, Courtney>Would it be specific collection sites?</v>

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01:25:58.686 --> 01:26:03.406
<v Hafner, Courtney>What are people's thoughts for collection
locations?</v>

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01:26:04.926 --> 01:26:06.486
<v Hafner, Courtney>And convenience standards.</v>

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01:26:13.216 --> 01:26:15.176
<v Hafner, Courtney>Hey, Mark Draper want to go ahead?</v>

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01:26:17.226 --> 01:26:18.306
<v Mark Draper>Hey, thanks again.</v>

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01:26:19.186 --> 01:26:20.706
<v Mark Draper>So yeah, I thought about this a lot.</v>

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01:26:20.706 --> 01:26:23.499
<v Mark Draper>Actually,
we've been trying to do some work in our</v>

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01:26:23.499 --> 01:26:27.550
<v Mark Draper>region to increase the number of
collection locations specific to some of</v>

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01:26:27.550 --> 01:26:28.426
<v Mark Draper>these batteries.</v>

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01:26:29.926 --> 01:26:35.886
<v Mark Draper>Now obviously solid waste facilities like
transfer stations are are an obvious.</v>

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01:26:38.086 --> 01:26:39.852
<v Mark Draper>Option,
but certainly in our case here in</v>

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01:26:39.852 --> 01:26:40.566
<v Mark Draper>Aroostook County.</v>

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01:26:42.406 --> 01:26:45.642
<v Mark Draper>You know one one of the things that
you'll find in a lot of cases is your</v>

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01:26:45.642 --> 01:26:46.166
<v Mark Draper>solid waste.</v>

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01:26:46.436 --> 01:26:49.797
<v Mark Draper>Facilities aren't particularly
conveniently located,</v>

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01:26:49.797 --> 01:26:51.636
<v Mark Draper>and that's usually by design.</v>

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01:26:51.636 --> 01:26:56.735
<v Mark Draper>You don't want them near people because
people don't like them for particularly</v>

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01:26:56.735 --> 01:27:01.834
<v Mark Draper>so I know retailers I think is another
obvious one that's similar to what we've</v>

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01:27:01.834 --> 01:27:06.933
<v Mark Draper>seen in the programs like Paint Care,
where the retailers are obviously heavily</v>

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01:27:06.933 --> 01:27:10.056
<v Mark Draper>involved.
And I think those have been relatively</v>

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01:27:10.056 --> 01:27:10.566
<v Mark Draper>success.</v>

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01:27:10.716 --> 01:27:10.996
<v Mark Draper>So.</v>

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01:27:11.766 --> 01:27:15.634
<v Mark Draper>One of the other things that we've looked
at up here specifically would be fire</v>

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01:27:15.634 --> 01:27:16.166
<v Mark Draper>department.</v>

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01:27:16.836 --> 01:27:21.456
<v Mark Draper>And fire stations specifically because
you know who has a vested interest in</v>

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01:27:21.456 --> 01:27:22.476
<v Mark Draper>preventing fires.</v>

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01:27:22.476 --> 01:27:26.076
<v Mark Draper>And again, I know I'm focused on fires,
but that's the issue that we're having.</v>

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01:27:27.566 --> 01:27:32.486
<v Mark Draper>And so it'd be interesting to see what
interest there is from from fire stations</v>

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01:27:32.486 --> 01:27:34.126
<v Mark Draper>to be collection locations.</v>

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01:27:34.166 --> 01:27:39.233
<v Mark Draper>Well trained people have a vested
interest in not having the fires and a</v>

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01:27:39.233 --> 01:27:41.246
<v Mark Draper>lot of them are man 24/7 365.</v>

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01:27:41.366 --> 01:27:45.886
<v Mark Draper>So that's my thought on that. And I think,
Brian, correct me if I'm wrong.</v>

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01:27:45.886 --> 01:27:47.646
<v Mark Draper>I think the paint care program had
actually.</v>

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01:27:47.956 --> 01:27:53.679
<v Mark Draper>Actually a standard in it that you know
the collection locations had to be within</v>

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01:27:53.679 --> 01:27:57.796
<v Mark Draper>a certain distance of a certain segment
of the population.</v>

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01:27:57.796 --> 01:28:00.516
<v Mark Draper>I think that might already exist in one
of the other ones.</v>

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01:28:00.516 --> 01:28:02.916
<v Mark Draper>I think in pink hair,
but I might be wrong.</v>

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01:28:03.476 --> 01:28:04.756
<v Hafner, Courtney>Yeah. No, that is correct.</v>

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01:28:04.756 --> 01:28:08.676
<v Hafner, Courtney>There is a paint care convenience
standard about about that.</v>

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01:28:09.236 --> 01:28:12.171
<v Hafner, Courtney>I I can't rattle it off top my head,
but yes,</v>

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01:28:12.171 --> 01:28:16.636
<v Hafner, Courtney>it's like like 90% of the population must
be within 10 miles of a 15.</v>

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01:28:16.996 --> 01:28:21.149
<v Hafner, Courtney>So but one of course,
one of the interesting things that brings</v>

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01:28:17.016 --> 01:28:17.416
<v Mark Draper>Yeah.</v>

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01:28:21.149 --> 01:28:24.198
<v Hafner, Courtney>up is that with the case of transfer
stations,</v>

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01:28:24.198 --> 01:28:28.156
<v Hafner, Courtney>so a lot of transfer stations are only
available to use for.</v>

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01:28:28.886 --> 01:28:31.766
<v Hafner, Courtney>The residents of a particular
municipality, so.</v>

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01:28:34.356 --> 01:28:38.429
<v Hafner, Courtney>So that that Even so,
even though if you look at a map that</v>

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01:28:38.429 --> 01:28:43.927
<v Hafner, Courtney>shows and I'll kind of say this and then
we'll move on to some other people that</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/11491-2
01:28:43.927 --> 01:28:48.815
<v Hafner, Courtney>shows that there are a lot of quote
collection points because there are</v>

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01:28:48.815 --> 01:28:51.326
<v Hafner, Courtney>located in transfer station you know.</v>

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01:28:51.326 --> 01:28:55.870
<v Hafner, Courtney>That's specific to a residence and a lot
of the surrounding community can't</v>

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01:28:55.870 --> 01:28:59.876
<v Hafner, Courtney>actually use that particular transfer
station because they're not.</v>

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01:29:00.606 --> 01:29:01.246
<v Hafner, Courtney>In that community.</v>

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01:29:01.876 --> 01:29:07.076
<v Hafner, Courtney>And kind of talks about how how retail
locations may be.</v>

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01:29:08.686 --> 01:29:11.806
<v Hafner, Courtney>Or other locations that are more
available to the general public.</v>

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01:29:13.526 --> 01:29:17.885
<v Hafner, Courtney>Would need to play a part in this,
particularly in if we're talking about</v>

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01:29:17.885 --> 01:29:18.886
<v Hafner, Courtney>devices that are.</v>

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01:29:20.196 --> 01:29:24.156
<v Hafner, Courtney>Relatively common and somebody will need
to get rid of.</v>

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01:29:24.856 --> 01:29:25.296
<v Mark Draper>Right.</v>

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01:29:25.846 --> 01:29:29.966
<v Hafner, Courtney>And not be able to not be anywhere near
there local transportation.</v>

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01:29:30.166 --> 01:29:34.006
<v Hafner, Courtney>So I'll we'll move on to Ashley.</v>

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01:29:30.596 --> 01:29:31.076
<v Mark Draper>Right.</v>

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01:29:36.886 --> 01:29:42.343
<v Ashley Seaward>Hi all I have a couple thoughts on this
point and I'll follow up in the written</v>

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01:29:42.343 --> 01:29:44.526
<v Ashley Seaward>comment after this meeting. But.</v>

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01:29:46.006 --> 01:29:48.401
<v Ashley Seaward>For collection points and convenience
standards,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/11645-1
01:29:48.401 --> 01:29:51.920
<v Ashley Seaward>the first comment I wanted to make
quickly and I I had to leave the the</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/11645-2
01:29:51.920 --> 01:29:54.608
<v Ashley Seaward>meeting briefly,
so apologies if this was talked about</v>

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01:29:54.608 --> 01:29:56.856
<v Ashley Seaward>before,
but I just wanted to make the comment</v>

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01:29:56.856 --> 01:29:59.886
<v Ashley Seaward>that large format batteries such as
batteries found in elect.</v>

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01:29:59.886 --> 01:30:02.294
<v Ashley Seaward>Vehicles.
Those are managed by licensed</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/11660-1
01:30:02.294 --> 01:30:06.086
<v Ashley Seaward>professionals and it's not not the case
that just the average.</v>

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01:30:06.676 --> 01:30:13.544
<v Ashley Seaward>Consumer owner of an electric vehicle is
taking that battery to a collection point</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/11682-1
01:30:13.544 --> 01:30:15.116
<v Ashley Seaward>or recycling point.</v>

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01:30:15.116 --> 01:30:16.396
<v Ashley Seaward>That's that's not the case.</v>

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01:30:16.396 --> 01:30:17.756
<v Ashley Seaward>They weigh hundreds of pounds.</v>

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01:30:17.756 --> 01:30:20.764
<v Ashley Seaward>It requires a professional to take out
that battery,</v>

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01:30:20.764 --> 01:30:22.636
<v Ashley Seaward>so just wanted to make sure that.</v>

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01:30:24.686 --> 01:30:28.166
<v Ashley Seaward>Folks were aware of that.
The rest of my comment quickly.</v>

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01:30:28.166 --> 01:30:32.923
<v Ashley Seaward>I just want to keep it tailored to small
format and medium format batteries</v>

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01:30:32.923 --> 01:30:34.926
<v Ashley Seaward>because those can definitely be.</v>

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01:30:35.876 --> 01:30:38.676
<v Ashley Seaward>Handled by a consumer taken to a
collection point.</v>

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01:30:40.206 --> 01:30:41.046
<v Ashley Seaward>The.</v>

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01:30:43.166 --> 01:30:45.406
<v Ashley Seaward>At Redwood Materials,
I'm commenting on Redwood.</v>

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01:30:45.446 --> 01:30:49.251
<v Ashley Seaward>At Redwood Materials,
we offer free collection opportunities</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/11771-1
01:30:49.251 --> 01:30:50.686
<v Ashley Seaward>all across the country.</v>

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01:30:50.686 --> 01:30:52.766
<v Ashley Seaward>We do hundreds of events across the
country.</v>

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01:30:52.766 --> 01:30:57.506
<v Ashley Seaward>We have a bin that that we roll out and
partner with retailers across the country</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/11810-1
01:30:57.506 --> 01:31:02.303
<v Ashley Seaward>and we do it all on our own dime because
we believe the batteries are valuable and</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/11810-2
01:31:02.303 --> 01:31:04.846
<v Ashley Seaward>they are what we use to power our
business.</v>

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01:31:05.196 --> 01:31:06.516
<v Ashley Seaward>And it's not just us.</v>

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01:31:06.586 --> 01:31:09.386
<v Ashley Seaward>Batteries are valuable in the marketplace.</v>

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01:31:09.386 --> 01:31:12.906
<v Ashley Seaward>There's a whole marketplace for their
buying and selling of them downstream.</v>

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01:31:11.456 --> 01:31:11.616
<v Hafner, Courtney>OK.</v>

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01:31:14.436 --> 01:31:19.210
<v Ashley Seaward>So I just wanted to make sure you all are
aware that there are collectors such as</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/11871-1
01:31:19.210 --> 01:31:23.111
<v Ashley Seaward>us who are better recyclers,
offer independent collection and when</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/11871-2
01:31:23.111 --> 01:31:25.556
<v Ashley Seaward>thinking about legislation for collection.</v>

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01:31:27.236 --> 01:31:33.784
<v Ashley Seaward>Some of the legislation to date has just
not it hasn't allowed for or included</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/11893-1
01:31:33.784 --> 01:31:36.436
<v Ashley Seaward>recyclers into the conversation.</v>

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01:31:36.786 --> 01:31:40.939
<v Ashley Seaward>So it's some of the legislation to date
has been quite limiting actually in</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/11931-1
01:31:40.939 --> 01:31:45.147
<v Ashley Seaward>allowing recyclers to continue what we're
already doing offering independent</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/11931-2
01:31:45.147 --> 01:31:47.661
<v Ashley Seaward>collection,
everything that I just mentioned.</v>

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01:31:47.661 --> 01:31:50.229
<v Ashley Seaward>So just when you're thinking about
collection,</v>

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01:31:50.229 --> 01:31:53.836
<v Ashley Seaward>I would hope that you would continue to
include as you are doing.</v>

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01:31:53.836 --> 01:31:58.400
<v Ashley Seaward>Now all stakeholders in the conversation
and allow for as many collection points</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/11954-1
01:31:58.400 --> 01:32:02.626
<v Ashley Seaward>as possible and not just limit them to a
battery stewardship organization.</v>

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01:32:03.316 --> 01:32:06.076
<v Ashley Seaward>And the last point I wanted to make
really, really quickly.</v>

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01:32:07.126 --> 01:32:11.429
<v Ashley Seaward>One other evolving point in this
conversation with Battery EPR for small</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/12013-1
01:32:11.429 --> 01:32:15.908
<v Ashley Seaward>and medium format is the concept of not
just having one battery stewardship</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/12013-2
01:32:15.908 --> 01:32:19.091
<v Ashley Seaward>organization,
but having multiple battery stewardship</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/12013-3
01:32:19.091 --> 01:32:23.806
<v Ashley Seaward>organizations that can collectively work
together to meet convenient standards.</v>

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01:32:24.406 --> 01:32:29.011
<v Ashley Seaward>This just allows for greater amount of
folks to be participating,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/12037-1
01:32:29.011 --> 01:32:32.708
<v Ashley Seaward>not having it be limited to just a
nonprofit entity,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/12037-2
01:32:32.708 --> 01:32:36.196
<v Ashley Seaward>but for allowing for more market players
to come.</v>

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01:32:36.386 --> 01:32:41.106
<v Ashley Seaward>And participate and therefore aid and
increase collection and recovery rates.</v>

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01:32:41.146 --> 01:32:46.173
<v Ashley Seaward>So I'll provide more detail in my comment,
but those are my points for right now.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/12060-1
01:32:46.173 --> 01:32:46.786
<v Ashley Seaward>Thank you.</v>

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01:32:47.326 --> 01:32:48.006
<v Hafner, Courtney>Great. Great.</v>

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01:32:48.366 --> 01:32:49.246
<v Hafner, Courtney>Thank you, Ashley.</v>

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01:32:50.716 --> 01:32:51.556
<v Hafner, Courtney>Moving on to Abby.</v>

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01:32:53.976 --> 01:32:54.576
<v Corriveau, Abby>Hi, guys.</v>

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01:32:55.216 --> 01:32:56.456
<v Corriveau, Abby>Oh, can you see me?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/12100-0
01:32:57.296 --> 01:33:01.393
<v Corriveau, Abby>I'm also with the hazardous waste
management unit and I just wanted to talk</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/12083-0
01:32:57.946 --> 01:32:58.186
<v Hafner, Courtney>Listen.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/12100-1
01:33:01.393 --> 01:33:04.896
<v Corriveau, Abby>about in terms of being able to drop
batteries at retail spaces.</v>

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01:33:06.316 --> 01:33:11.352
<v Corriveau, Abby>We would be concerned there with storage
requirements as well as safe storage if</v>

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01:33:11.352 --> 01:33:15.020
<v Corriveau, Abby>they were storing batteries that maybe
one caught on fire,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/12142-2
01:33:15.020 --> 01:33:19.682
<v Corriveau, Abby>whatever we would want them to have
training on how to be able to properly</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/12142-3
01:33:19.682 --> 01:33:21.236
<v Corriveau, Abby>store and ship batteries.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/12145-0
01:33:22.996 --> 01:33:23.636
<v Corriveau, Abby>As universal way.</v>

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01:33:23.906 --> 01:33:27.010
<v Corriveau, Abby>So that's just something to think about
with retail locations,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/12174-1
01:33:27.010 --> 01:33:31.050
<v Corriveau, Abby>because a lot of those retail locations,
they might not train employees on how to</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/12174-2
01:33:31.050 --> 01:33:32.626
<v Corriveau, Abby>handle universal waste properly.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/12176-0
01:33:34.896 --> 01:33:35.216
<v Hafner, Courtney>All right.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/12179-0
01:33:35.216 --> 01:33:36.856
<v Hafner, Courtney>Thank you, Abby. Jennifer.</v>

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01:33:40.516 --> 01:33:41.596
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>Good point, Abby.</v>

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01:33:42.236 --> 01:33:46.959
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>I also wanted to give some additional
consideration when it comes to transfer</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/12204-1
01:33:46.959 --> 01:33:48.836
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>stations as a collection point.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/12237-0
01:33:50.356 --> 01:33:53.994
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>Here in Maine,
if a transfer station accepts universal</v>

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01:33:53.994 --> 01:33:58.028
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>waste from businesses,
they need to notify our unit and they</v>

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01:33:58.028 --> 01:34:02.989
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>need to send us quarterly reports
indicating everything they bring in from</v>

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01:34:02.989 --> 01:34:03.716
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>businesses.</v>

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01:34:05.956 --> 01:34:10.076
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>That is the decision of the municipality
whether they want to accept from business.</v>

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01:34:10.666 --> 01:34:13.666
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>Or not.
We don't have any control over that.</v>

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01:34:13.666 --> 01:34:16.386
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>We just enforce the requirements if they
choose to do so.</v>

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01:34:17.876 --> 01:34:22.397
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>On the business end,
we have something called the log system</v>

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01:34:22.397 --> 01:34:26.028
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>in place,
which small universal waste generators</v>

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01:34:26.028 --> 01:34:29.956
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>can use to move universal waste
downstream in state.</v>

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01:34:31.716 --> 01:34:36.636
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>That allows a business to move universal
waste downstream in state without using a</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/12328-1
01:34:36.636 --> 01:34:39.836
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>hazardous waste manifest or a uniform
bill of lading.</v>

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01:34:41.186 --> 01:34:44.548
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>However,
if they're generating over 200 items per</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/12357-1
01:34:44.548 --> 01:34:47.842
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>month,
or they accumulate over 200 items on site</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/12357-2
01:34:47.842 --> 01:34:51.203
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>at any time,
they cannot bring their items to the</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/12357-3
01:34:51.203 --> 01:34:52.346
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>transfer station.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/12384-0
01:34:53.756 --> 01:34:57.328
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>So they would have to ship them off
directly to a consolidation facility or</v>

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01:34:57.328 --> 01:35:00.476
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>recycling facility on a main uniform bill
of lading or a manifest.</v>

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01:35:01.666 --> 01:35:05.266
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>So that is an additional consideration
when it comes to transfer stations.</v>

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01:35:06.136 --> 01:35:10.456
<v Hafner, Courtney>That's for businesses.
Resident residential has like.</v>

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01:35:09.016 --> 01:35:12.196
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>Right, right.
Residents that are exempt from all that.</v>

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01:35:12.196 --> 01:35:15.666
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>It would just be batteries being
collected from businesses.</v>

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01:35:12.526 --> 01:35:13.086
<v Hafner, Courtney>Yes.</v>

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01:35:15.666 --> 01:35:19.656
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>You would have some additional
restrictions when it came to transfer</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/12432-3
01:35:19.656 --> 01:35:20.176
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>stations.</v>

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01:35:23.256 --> 01:35:25.096
<v Hafner, Courtney>Alright, thank you, Jennifer Stewart.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/12440-0
01:35:27.676 --> 01:35:28.676
<v Carin Stuart>Hi, yes.</v>

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<v Carin Stuart>So I'm Karen Stewart.
I'm with cauldre cycle.</v>

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<v Carin Stuart>So we are the battery organization that
has been operating throughout the United</v>

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<v Carin Stuart>States for over 30 years.</v>

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<v Carin Stuart>And so I just wanted to give.</v>

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<v Carin Stuart>I pulled up on my other screen some
information on because we are actively</v>

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<v Carin Stuart>collecting in Maine,
we have been for over 30 years.</v>

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<v Carin Stuart>I would not when we talk about portable.</v>

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<v Carin Stuart>So I'm gonna have just as Jennifer
pointed out before and I forget the the</v>

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<v Carin Stuart>woman who right before that.</v>

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<v Carin Stuart>There are some nuanced differences when
you talk about portable versus medium</v>

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<v Carin Stuart>format.</v>

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<v Carin Stuart>And for those that I don't know that
we've actually defined that how it's</v>

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<v Carin Stuart>typically been defined in the laws that
have passed the 300 Watt hours is your</v>

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<v Carin Stuart>kind of tipping point, right?</v>

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<v Carin Stuart>So that's due to the transport regs under
300 waters.</v>

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<v Carin Stuart>We'll talk.</v>

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<v Carin Stuart>We'll call it smaller portable.
I would not limit you know who's eligible</v>

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<v Carin Stuart>to collect that.</v>

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<v Carin Stuart>Our closest your one of your neighbors in
Vermont.</v>

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01:36:21.835 --> 01:36:25.773
<v Carin Stuart>We've been operating a program there for
almost a decade now,</v>

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01:36:25.773 --> 01:36:27.996
<v Carin Stuart>and we work with transfer stations.</v>

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01:36:28.426 --> 01:36:29.186
<v Carin Stuart>Work with retailers.</v>

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01:36:29.186 --> 01:36:30.506
<v Carin Stuart>We work with libraries.</v>

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01:36:30.506 --> 01:36:32.757
<v Carin Stuart>We work with hospitals,
we work with everybody 'cause.</v>

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<v Carin Stuart>Our intent is to get as many batteries
back as possible,</v>

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<v Carin Stuart>so I wouldn't limit it because the the
size of those batteries and our</v>

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<v Carin Stuart>collection kits that we have with the
patented liner and the training and all</v>

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01:36:41.186 --> 01:36:41.636
<v Carin Stuart>the safety.</v>

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<v Carin Stuart>That we do.</v>

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<v Carin Stuart>Our our intent is really to get the most
that we can when we talk about medium</v>

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<v Carin Stuart>format.</v>

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<v Carin Stuart>Now you're going 300 to 2000 Watt hours.
As was mentioned before.</v>

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<v Carin Stuart>That's that's different.</v>

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<v Carin Stuart>And so in these various states, we do.</v>

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<v Carin Stuart>Have we have limited it to?</v>

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<v Carin Stuart>Household hazardous waste,
or sites that are trained to handle that</v>

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<v Carin Stuart>type of material. Again,
you're talking just about a lot more</v>

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01:37:04.828 --> 01:37:09.066
<v Carin Stuart>energy density if something goes wrong,
there's just a lot more that can happen.</v>

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01:37:09.346 --> 01:37:13.282
<v Carin Stuart>So it's typically the limitation happens
when you get that medium format category</v>

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<v Carin Stuart>to make sure that you have people that
are trained that are there day after day</v>

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<v Carin Stuart>that know what to do and how to safely
handle these batteries.</v>

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<v Carin Stuart>So just wanted to kind of give that
information.</v>

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<v Carin Stuart>Within Maine, the the two,
the by far the biggest collection sites</v>

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<v Carin Stuart>are.</v>

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01:37:27.986 --> 01:37:28.866
<v Carin Stuart>The retailers.</v>

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<v Carin Stuart>But people go to transfer sites on a
weekly basis.</v>

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<v Carin Stuart>So you don't want to take that away from
them either.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>All right.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Thank you, Katie.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>Yeah. Thank you.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>One in distress,
I think convenience to consumers is</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>really important.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>But I do think we need to think about
who's best equipped to properly and</v>

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01:37:52.441 --> 01:37:56.844
<v Katie Reilly>safely handle the material,
and specifically when we get into kind of</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>the product conversation. You know,
CTA has retail members that have set up</v>

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01:38:01.625 --> 01:38:03.826
<v Katie Reilly>voluntary programs for electronics.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>It is very involved.
They'll tell you that there's significant</v>

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01:38:06.986 --> 01:38:09.664
<v Katie Reilly>employee training.
You have to make sure you have enough</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>space in your retail setting.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>To properly take back the products
themselves,</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>there's obviously all of the
considerations around what the specific</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>states handling requirements are.
Just kind of heard DEP. Refer to that.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>I would just say not all retailers may be
equipped to properly and safely manage</v>

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01:38:28.014 --> 01:38:29.826
<v Katie Reilly>the take back of products or.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>Potentially have the space to do so.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>You can buy battery embedded products at
a gas station.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>I don't necessarily represent.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>Those products that you can buy at a gas
station.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>But something to think about, you know,
do we want a product take back program</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>happening at a gas station that is in
fact serving as a retailer in that</v>

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01:38:51.740 --> 01:38:52.226
<v Katie Reilly>setting?</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>So I think you know there needs to be
some consideration around convenience as</v>

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01:38:56.616 --> 01:39:01.005
<v Katie Reilly>well as like who's properly equipped to
actually handle this material and make</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>sure there's a set of collectors sort of
standards or best management practices</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>that go along,
goes along with operating as a collect.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>Of battery.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>Embedded products.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>All right.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Thank you, Katie.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>We'll go to the room. I think that was.
That was a really great point and and we</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>just want to put out also that.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>For smaller retailers that are handling
certain types of products that could be</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>insurance implications.
So there may be other financial.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Implications, obstacles,
or obligations that that retail is going</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>to have to take on.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Not in state should.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>The state should be thoughtful of.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Putting on the shelf this.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>All right.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Thank you. OK.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Another one from the room.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>My question is like maybe for Katie or
someone that is more experienced in</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>implementation on this.
Like I would make an assumption that you</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>have a a retail or you have a a store or
a collection site that the storage space</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>that you may have to accept bat.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>The level of training and the type of
training would more than likely be tied</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>to the products of which you sell at that
same location.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>And and I just wonder.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>How do they do that in that if it's like
a cell phone company but they come with a</v>

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01:40:37.265 --> 01:40:43.982
<v Hafner, Courtney>large tractor battery or the 200 Watt,
300 Watt and those type of things like</v>

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01:40:43.982 --> 01:40:49.236
<v Hafner, Courtney>and I bring it up because you have a lot
of folks that want.</v>

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01:40:49.236 --> 01:40:52.928
<v Hafner, Courtney>To engage in these type programs,
they want it to be successful and it</v>

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01:40:52.928 --> 01:40:55.996
<v Hafner, Courtney>seems reasonable that they would want to
set up for their.</v>

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01:40:56.346 --> 01:41:00.931
<v Hafner, Courtney>Catchment their customers things that
they process and be really great at that</v>

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01:41:00.931 --> 01:41:05.632
<v Hafner, Courtney>and how do you support and cultivate that
without like beating it out of them by</v>

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01:41:05.632 --> 01:41:09.230
<v Hafner, Courtney>saying now you're gonna have to take
other people's products.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>You're gonna have to store other.
You never sold it.</v>

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01:41:12.376 --> 01:41:15.014
<v Hafner, Courtney>Your store,
but it's gonna take your employees time</v>

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01:41:15.014 --> 01:41:16.536
<v Hafner, Courtney>and all of this type of stuff.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Or is it might make pretending a scenario
that doesn't actually exist in reality.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>I think you're hitting the nail on the
head actually. I mean,</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>I think that a lot of retailers build
their programs around the type of</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>products they sell within their stores.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>So if they're offering a voluntary
program for, say,</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>traditional consumer electronics.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>You know they're only going to take back
those types of products.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>That's what they know how to handle.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>That's what they are equipped to handle.
You know someone who sells a consumer</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>electronics isn't going to take back that
easy.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>Battery or that battery from a tractor
trailer.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>It's not really compatible with their
world in which they operate and function,</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>so I think again that goes back to kind
of considerations,</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>you know placing mandates on retailers to
take back products. And again,</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>I'm only speaking from the product
perspective, not the least battery,</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>but to dig.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>Back battery containing products one.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>We don't see any retail mandates in terms
of retailer mandated take back for at</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>least electronic devices here in the
United States.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>And I you know,
there's there's a reason for why that</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>hasn't happened to date,
but I think you're perfectly I think</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>you're going down the right path.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>I have.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>You know,
not placing a mandate on retailers to</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>take back all types of batteries,
I'm including from products that they</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>haven't sold.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>All right.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Thank you, Katie. Amanda.</v>

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<v Amanda Campbell>Thanks. Yeah,
I just wanted to build on a comment that</v>

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<v Amanda Campbell>one of the other gentlemen in the room
just mentioned about the smaller</v>

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<v Amanda Campbell>retailers having to take on increased
costs potentially in insurance for safety</v>

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<v Amanda Campbell>reasons and those kinds of things and
that municipalities could eventually,</v>

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<v Amanda Campbell>you know end.</v>

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<v Amanda Campbell>Up in that same boat that if they're,
you know, for example,</v>

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01:43:18.203 --> 01:43:21.396
<v Amanda Campbell>our risk management,
if they were to go through and and.</v>

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<v Amanda Campbell>Check off that now at this transfer
station is accepting different or larger.</v>

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<v Amanda Campbell>Or or whatever sorts of hazardous things
that could impact their insurance</v>

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<v Amanda Campbell>premiums.</v>

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<v Amanda Campbell>So it's not just the smaller retailers,
it's it's anybody potentially who is</v>

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<v Amanda Campbell>going to be handling these materials.
But in addition to that,</v>

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<v Amanda Campbell>you're looking at if you're going to
expand the kinds of materials that</v>

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<v Amanda Campbell>transfer stations may not necessarily be
expected, but could be expected to handle.</v>

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<v Amanda Campbell>You're looking at space increases those
floor plans, so to speak.</v>

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<v Amanda Campbell>Of the transfer stations have to be
approved by the department and lots of</v>

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01:43:59.791 --> 01:44:03.056
<v Amanda Campbell>them are already crowded and don't have
that room to expand.</v>

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<v Amanda Campbell>And so there's there's just lots of other
considerations that you know to be</v>

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01:44:06.670 --> 01:44:10.096
<v Amanda Campbell>included in the conversation as far as
those transfer stations would go.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Thank you, Amanda. Karen.</v>

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<v Carin Stuart>Yeah,
I'm gonna jump back to the retail</v>

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<v Carin Stuart>question that was asked in the room.</v>

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<v Carin Stuart>So color cycle,
we have a great partnership with four</v>

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01:44:25.191 --> 01:44:29.806
<v Carin Stuart>national retail partners, Best Buy,
Staples, Home Depot and Lowe's.</v>

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01:44:30.006 --> 01:44:32.306
<v Carin Stuart>Those national foot,
that national footprint,</v>

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01:44:32.306 --> 01:44:36.106
<v Carin Stuart>that partnership has come from those
retailers see a value because a lot of</v>

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01:44:36.106 --> 01:44:39.806
<v Carin Stuart>their products as you just said,
they know that they're they're selling a</v>

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01:44:39.806 --> 01:44:43.206
<v Carin Stuart>lot of the products with batteries that
are going on to the market.</v>

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<v Carin Stuart>So it is their corporate stewardship or
sustainability programs that.</v>

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<v Carin Stuart>They have voluntarily said on a national
basis we're gonna partner with clutter</v>

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01:44:52.228 --> 01:44:54.710
<v Carin Stuart>cycle and we will take those batteries
back.</v>

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01:44:54.710 --> 01:44:59.233
<v Carin Stuart>By far the largest category that we still
get are power tool batteries and by far</v>

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01:44:59.233 --> 01:45:02.376
<v Carin Stuart>the largest collections come from Home
Depot and Lowe's.</v>

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01:45:02.496 --> 01:45:05.134
<v Carin Stuart>It just kind of goes hand in hand from a
retailer perspective.</v>

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01:45:05.134 --> 01:45:08.483
<v Carin Stuart>They want to take the battery back to
where they got it from and that's where a</v>

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01:45:08.483 --> 01:45:11.706
<v Carin Stuart>lot of these national retail partners
realize that in in their kind of doing</v>

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01:45:11.706 --> 01:45:12.376
<v Carin Stuart>the right thing.</v>

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<v Carin Stuart>I think as we're starting to emerge,
I think as we mentioned,</v>

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<v Carin Stuart>there's only a handful of states that
require.</v>

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01:45:18.296 --> 01:45:21.096
<v Carin Stuart>Air primary or single use batteries to be
collected.</v>

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01:45:21.656 --> 01:45:26.594
<v Carin Stuart>Those are traditionally sold at different
stores and we are now getting into that</v>

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<v Carin Stuart>area often.</v>

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<v Carin Stuart>It's a grocery store and so we are
emerging into that footprint because</v>

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01:45:31.289 --> 01:45:33.865
<v Carin Stuart>again,
consumers want to take their AA or AAA</v>

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<v Carin Stuart>batteries from, you know,
they're going to take it back from where</v>

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01:45:37.618 --> 01:45:40.810
<v Carin Stuart>they bought it from,
so that that kind of mental thought</v>

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<v Carin Stuart>definitely goes hand.</v>

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<v Carin Stuart>In hand with which retailers want to
partner with us?</v>

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01:45:45.466 --> 01:45:48.666
<v Carin Stuart>The only two states that have a retailer
mandate to serve as a collection point.</v>

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01:45:49.016 --> 01:45:51.496
<v Carin Stuart>If they sell it or New York and shortly
California.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>And Karen, just I try not to that,
but that's for loose batteries, correct?</v>

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<v Carin Stuart>That's everything I'm saying is loose
batteries, yes.</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>Not for.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Which data is?</v>

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<v Katie Reilly>Thank you.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Any more feedback on convenience and
locations?</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>If not, we can go to our next point.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>And again, I'll just reiterate.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>If people do not feel like wanna if they
have thoughts on any of these topics,</v>

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01:46:31.262 --> 01:46:37.146
<v Hafner, Courtney>this is feel free to submit written
comments at any time to us. So.</v>

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01:46:43.316 --> 01:46:44.716
<v Hafner, Courtney>I guess one of the questions.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>In terms of collection,
convenience is outreach.</v>

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01:46:53.106 --> 01:46:58.026
<v Hafner, Courtney>How what type of requirements would?</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Do to would people anticipate or like to
see regarding if we went with a product</v>

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01:47:06.465 --> 01:47:07.906
<v Hafner, Courtney>stewardship program?</v>

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01:47:09.426 --> 01:47:12.546
<v Hafner, Courtney>Or product stewardship organization. How?</v>

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01:47:13.016 --> 01:47:18.896
<v Hafner, Courtney>What kind of requirements would there be
for education and outreach to get?</v>

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01:47:20.306 --> 01:47:20.946
<v Hafner, Courtney>Make sure that the public.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>Knows how and where.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>To return.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>The batteries.</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>From the real Oh yeah,
I would love to hear from the call to</v>

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01:47:40.324 --> 01:47:45.541
<v Hafner, Courtney>recycling folks because of what I read
about their engagement in Vermont about</v>

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01:47:45.541 --> 01:47:48.776
<v Hafner, Courtney>that being a requirement of their
participation.</v>

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01:47:50.266 --> 01:47:55.097
<v Hafner, Courtney>Because like I for some reason this
conversation's super confusing for me</v>

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01:47:55.097 --> 01:47:55.946
<v Hafner, Courtney>because like.</v>

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01:47:57.776 --> 01:48:03.471
<v Hafner, Courtney>If if we're doing all batteries, you know,
then some sort of interconnected</v>

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01:48:03.471 --> 01:48:08.116
<v Hafner, Courtney>stewardship ecosystem with one
stewardship person at the top,</v>

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01:48:08.116 --> 01:48:13.736
<v Hafner, Courtney>it would be reasonable for them to, like,
do a certain amount of outreach.</v>

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01:48:13.936 --> 01:48:17.019
<v Hafner, Courtney>But like,
how do you get outreach of the large</v>

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01:48:17.019 --> 01:48:22.266
<v Hafner, Courtney>tractor battery people to them without
getting into all these other people that</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14250-2
01:48:22.266 --> 01:48:27.514
<v Hafner, Courtney>don't seem to care and it kind of just
gets me back to being like I I feel like</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14250-3
01:48:27.514 --> 01:48:27.776
<v Hafner, Courtney>the.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14267-0
01:48:27.936 --> 01:48:32.162
<v Hafner, Courtney>To define that in the state should take
care of that and the state should</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14267-1
01:48:32.162 --> 01:48:35.416
<v Hafner, Courtney>advertise that they have approved the
recycling program.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14273-0
01:48:35.456 --> 01:48:39.056
<v Hafner, Courtney>This is what it looks like,
but I don't anyway.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14302-0
01:48:39.056 --> 01:48:43.976
<v Hafner, Courtney>I just like this this whole public
outreach thing is what makes or breaks</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14302-1
01:48:43.976 --> 01:48:48.164
<v Hafner, Courtney>these things and call to recycle and
their Vermont experience.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14302-2
01:48:48.164 --> 01:48:53.017
<v Hafner, Courtney>What I read about it seemed like an
interesting case study worth talking</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14302-3
01:48:53.017 --> 01:48:53.416
<v Hafner, Courtney>about.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14309-0
01:48:54.186 --> 01:48:57.668
<v Hafner, Courtney>I mean,
I'll just just let Erin go on for just to</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14309-1
01:48:57.668 --> 01:48:57.946
<v Hafner, Courtney>say.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14330-0
01:48:58.456 --> 01:49:01.218
<v Hafner, Courtney>I mean,
education outreach is the difference</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14330-1
01:49:01.218 --> 01:49:05.392
<v Hafner, Courtney>between a product getting,
getting collected and and getting thrown</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14330-2
01:49:05.392 --> 01:49:09.136
<v Hafner, Courtney>away and winding up in Mark's landfill
and catching on fire.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14335-0
01:49:10.616 --> 01:49:11.296
<v Carin Stuart>Yeah, right.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14365-0
01:49:11.296 --> 01:49:14.689
<v Carin Stuart>And so, you know,
it's interesting if you talk to different</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14365-1
01:49:14.689 --> 01:49:17.234
<v Carin Stuart>states,
like if you talk to Washington or in</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14365-2
01:49:17.234 --> 01:49:20.062
<v Carin Stuart>Colorado,
the two biggest pieces that they see is</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14365-3
01:49:20.062 --> 01:49:24.416
<v Carin Stuart>most important to these state laws are
accessibility and education outreach.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14391-0
01:49:24.416 --> 01:49:27.941
<v Carin Stuart>Because if they're,
if people are aware of it and they have</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14391-1
01:49:27.941 --> 01:49:30.995
<v Carin Stuart>the ability,
they will generally do the right thing</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14391-2
01:49:30.995 --> 01:49:34.696
<v Carin Stuart>from education outreach.
Every state law has this requirement.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14389-0
01:49:32.826 --> 01:49:33.586
<v Hafner, Courtney>Good evening.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14403-0
01:49:35.506 --> 01:49:39.917
<v Carin Stuart>The requirement is generally that the
battery search of organization proposed</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14403-1
01:49:39.917 --> 01:49:40.426
<v Carin Stuart>in their.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14430-0
01:49:40.896 --> 01:49:43.676
<v Carin Stuart>In their plan to the state that must be
approved,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14430-1
01:49:43.676 --> 01:49:47.847
<v Carin Stuart>what they will do and how they will
measure that metric and then what that</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14430-2
01:49:47.847 --> 01:49:51.016
<v Carin Stuart>metric will look like for the first three
to five years?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14431-0
01:49:51.176 --> 01:49:53.616
<v Carin Stuart>So from our perspective.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14445-0
01:49:54.986 --> 01:49:59.506
<v Carin Stuart>We survey the residents every year and we
understand primarily 2 questions.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14453-0
01:49:59.546 --> 01:50:01.558
<v Carin Stuart>One,
were you aware that you needed to recycle</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14453-1
01:50:01.558 --> 01:50:01.986
<v Carin Stuart>batteries?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14459-0
01:50:01.986 --> 01:50:03.666
<v Carin Stuart>And two, did you actually do it?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14472-0
01:50:03.666 --> 01:50:07.090
<v Carin Stuart>And those are the two metrics we are
trying to get at every single year and</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14472-1
01:50:07.090 --> 01:50:08.666
<v Carin Stuart>trying to move that needle upwards.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14482-0
01:50:09.376 --> 01:50:11.216
<v Carin Stuart>And so we use different tactics, right?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14501-0
01:50:11.216 --> 01:50:14.635
<v Carin Stuart>So and and what's interesting is,
so we operate in Washington,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14501-1
01:50:14.635 --> 01:50:17.674
<v Carin Stuart>DC and in Vermont,
you couldn't find two more different</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14501-2
01:50:17.674 --> 01:50:19.736
<v Carin Stuart>places with the exact same population.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14515-0
01:50:19.736 --> 01:50:23.056
<v Carin Stuart>So in Vermont, we try tactics,
a lot of it is social media.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14517-0
01:50:23.056 --> 01:50:24.336
<v Carin Stuart>It's front porch forum.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14523-0
01:50:24.336 --> 01:50:25.776
<v Carin Stuart>I don't know if that's in Maine as well.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14529-0
01:50:25.776 --> 01:50:28.136
<v Carin Stuart>It's kind of like your local where you
get news.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14537-0
01:50:28.576 --> 01:50:31.416
<v Carin Stuart>We do a lot of outreach through schools,
middle schools.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14555-0
01:50:32.906 --> 01:50:37.058
<v Carin Stuart>We are starting now to partnership with
grocery stores to get people when they</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14555-1
01:50:37.058 --> 01:50:38.266
<v Carin Stuart>get to a point of sale.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14563-0
01:50:38.536 --> 01:50:39.576
<v Carin Stuart>They're aware of it.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14569-0
01:50:40.096 --> 01:50:42.496
<v Carin Stuart>We've tried a number of different tactics.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14579-0
01:50:42.496 --> 01:50:44.962
<v Carin Stuart>Another big one is actually working with
the hauler,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14579-1
01:50:44.962 --> 01:50:46.776
<v Carin Stuart>so I know there's haulers on this call.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14607-0
01:50:48.226 --> 01:50:51.922
<v Carin Stuart>Often people say that they want to learn
what to do with their battery from the</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14607-1
01:50:51.922 --> 01:50:54.231
<v Carin Stuart>hauler.
Who is the one that is taking their their</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14607-2
01:50:54.231 --> 01:50:55.386
<v Carin Stuart>materials away from them?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14615-0
01:50:55.546 --> 01:50:57.506
<v Carin Stuart>So we'll partner with them to get that
message out.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14639-0
01:50:57.506 --> 01:51:01.991
<v Carin Stuart>We'll partner with the local government.
It's really kind of a. However,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14639-1
01:51:01.991 --> 01:51:05.309
<v Carin Stuart>we're getting the feedback annually from
that survey.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14639-2
01:51:05.309 --> 01:51:08.626
<v Carin Stuart>We we adjust our our outreach to to meet
what people.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14647-0
01:51:08.976 --> 01:51:11.896
<v Carin Stuart>People are saying to us to keep moving
that number upwards.</v>

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01:51:16.296 --> 01:51:16.936
<v Hafner, Courtney>Thank you.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14652-0
01:51:19.086 --> 01:51:19.566
<v Hafner, Courtney>OK.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14671-0
01:51:21.926 --> 01:51:25.258
<v Hafner, Courtney>I mean,
I can feed into my own experience into</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14671-1
01:51:25.258 --> 01:51:29.086
<v Hafner, Courtney>outreach because I do it a lot for my
other programs.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14677-0
01:51:30.576 --> 01:51:31.856
<v Hafner, Courtney>Me. Turn this towards me a little bit.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14714-0
01:51:35.456 --> 01:51:40.645
<v Hafner, Courtney>So I help facilitate the paint program.
The Mercury lights program and the</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14714-1
01:51:40.645 --> 01:51:45.558
<v Hafner, Courtney>Mercury thermostats program,
and one of the things that I do is that I</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14714-2
01:51:45.558 --> 01:51:50.816
<v Hafner, Courtney>make sure these store locations along
with our product stewardship program.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14738-0
01:51:52.696 --> 01:51:58.409
<v Hafner, Courtney>Advisor make sure that emails are sent
out and that they have actual literature</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14738-1
01:51:58.409 --> 01:52:03.336
<v Hafner, Courtney>to be able to give to people.
I personally visit each location that.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14764-0
01:52:05.646 --> 01:52:10.624
<v Hafner, Courtney>Does this recycling now this can be
tricky endeavor for some parts,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14764-1
01:52:10.624 --> 01:52:16.480
<v Hafner, Courtney>because for me I have 180 locations to
visit in a year and I do that alone this</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14764-2
01:52:16.480 --> 01:52:16.846
<v Hafner, Courtney>year.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14772-0
01:52:16.846 --> 01:52:20.166
<v Hafner, Courtney>I'm actually getting some help so along
with our.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14802-0
01:52:22.256 --> 01:52:27.130
<v Hafner, Courtney>Product Stewardship Advisors they're
taking on sixty of those locations for me,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14802-1
01:52:27.130 --> 01:52:30.176
<v Hafner, Courtney>that's still 120 that I have to do by
myself, so.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14813-0
01:52:31.696 --> 01:52:34.816
<v Hafner, Courtney>I know for us in the department how much
we can do.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14854-0
01:52:35.206 --> 01:52:39.240
<v Hafner, Courtney>We can send out emails and we can send
out material,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14854-1
01:52:39.240 --> 01:52:45.786
<v Hafner, Courtney>but physically visiting every single site,
especially for this program that we might,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14854-2
01:52:45.786 --> 01:52:50.657
<v Hafner, Courtney>you know create it depends on how much
staff is allotted to us.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14854-3
01:52:50.657 --> 01:52:55.376
<v Hafner, Courtney>If we have one person,
but we have 300 retailers slash trans.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14859-0
01:52:55.376 --> 01:52:57.766
<v Hafner, Courtney>Stations wanna work with this?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14868-0
01:52:59.296 --> 01:53:01.136
<v Hafner, Courtney>It could be very it could be very tricky.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14876-0
01:53:01.136 --> 01:53:04.097
<v Hafner, Courtney>So for our end,
that's what we can do and we're just</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14876-1
01:53:04.097 --> 01:53:04.656
<v Hafner, Courtney>trying to.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14890-0
01:53:04.926 --> 01:53:12.206
<v Hafner, Courtney>To figure out how best to help everyone
else in this case is literature enough.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14898-0
01:53:12.206 --> 01:53:15.646
<v Hafner, Courtney>Do we need ads in places on websites?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14899-0
01:53:15.846 --> 01:53:17.566
<v Hafner, Courtney>Where do we see?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14908-0
01:53:18.566 --> 01:53:20.566
<v Hafner, Courtney>Can we get the word out to people?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14916-0
01:53:20.566 --> 01:53:22.806
<v Hafner, Courtney>And we just want to see for other people.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14933-0
01:53:22.806 --> 01:53:25.986
<v Hafner, Courtney>What have you seen to that?
You can get the word out, you know,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14933-1
01:53:25.986 --> 01:53:27.526
<v Hafner, Courtney>especially in this day and age.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14938-0
01:53:27.526 --> 01:53:30.126
<v Hafner, Courtney>We know Internet's always a source,
but where exactly?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14942-0
01:53:32.926 --> 01:53:34.286
<v Hafner, Courtney>Ashley, I believe.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14951-0
01:53:35.916 --> 01:53:38.476
<v Ashley Seaward>Yes, hi,
this is Ashley from Redwood again.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14998-0
01:53:38.876 --> 01:53:43.541
<v Ashley Seaward>I just wanted to comment once more on the
events that I'd mentioned before that we</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14998-1
01:53:43.541 --> 01:53:47.418
<v Ashley Seaward>do events all across the country.
And one thing that we found really</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14998-2
01:53:47.418 --> 01:53:51.689
<v Ashley Seaward>successful with doing our collection
events for lithium ion batteries is we</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/14998-3
01:53:51.689 --> 01:53:54.836
<v Ashley Seaward>partner with local Rotary clubs across
the country and.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15012-0
01:53:55.196 --> 01:53:59.904
<v Ashley Seaward>We give them all the the tools and
resources they need to host a collection</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15012-1
01:53:59.904 --> 01:54:00.276
<v Ashley Seaward>event.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15027-0
01:54:00.976 --> 01:54:05.092
<v Ashley Seaward>And and like the the social media
materials and how to advertise the event</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15027-1
01:54:05.092 --> 01:54:05.696
<v Ashley Seaward>beforehand.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15051-0
01:54:06.726 --> 01:54:10.513
<v Ashley Seaward>But we really try and just engage and
connect with the community in that way,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15051-1
01:54:10.513 --> 01:54:12.406
<v Ashley Seaward>but that's one way that we're doing it.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15060-0
01:54:13.466 --> 01:54:16.986
<v Hafner, Courtney>So. So just to kind of build on that,
in addition to having.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15087-0
01:54:18.416 --> 01:54:25.033
<v Hafner, Courtney>Permanent collection locations also have
kind of like the way that a lot of places</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15087-1
01:54:25.033 --> 01:54:29.736
<v Hafner, Courtney>have ewes collection collection days.
It's the same thing.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15094-0
01:54:29.736 --> 01:54:35.296
<v Hafner, Courtney>You'll have specific collection events
that you team up with.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15098-0
01:54:41.536 --> 01:54:42.536
<v Ashley Seaward>Is that a question for me?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15104-0
01:54:43.256 --> 01:54:44.736
<v Hafner, Courtney>Yeah, I'm just just clarifying.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15108-0
01:54:44.736 --> 01:54:45.576
<v Hafner, Courtney>So so you.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15121-0
01:54:45.576 --> 01:54:51.776
<v Hafner, Courtney>So you're in addition to collection
points, you're also saying to consider.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15126-0
01:54:55.236 --> 01:54:57.276
<v Hafner, Courtney>Collection events as well.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15134-0
01:54:57.676 --> 01:54:59.996
<v Ashley Seaward>Yeah. So at Redwood, we have our own.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15132-0
01:54:58.566 --> 01:54:59.046
<v Hafner, Courtney>Yeah.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15182-0
01:55:01.696 --> 01:55:07.473
<v Ashley Seaward>Logistics network transportation.
UL tested packaging this bin that we'll</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15182-1
01:55:07.473 --> 01:55:11.143
<v Ashley Seaward>do that.
We'll a permanent bin that we have at</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15182-2
01:55:11.143 --> 01:55:15.280
<v Ashley Seaward>retail locations and retailers that we
partner with,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15182-3
01:55:15.280 --> 01:55:21.057
<v Ashley Seaward>but we also do events and our our
collection program is is still growing,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15182-4
01:55:21.057 --> 01:55:24.336
<v Ashley Seaward>but it's growing more and more every year.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15191-0
01:55:24.496 --> 01:55:26.576
<v Ashley Seaward>So yeah, we do events and permanent bends.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15194-0
01:55:27.896 --> 01:55:28.056
<v Hafner, Courtney>OK.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15195-0
01:55:28.056 --> 01:55:29.296
<v Hafner, Courtney>All right.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15197-0
01:55:29.296 --> 01:55:30.216
<v Hafner, Courtney>Thank you, Abby.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15230-0
01:55:32.926 --> 01:55:37.243
<v Corriveau, Abby>Waste management unit. Again,
the one thing we get calls all the time</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15230-1
01:55:37.243 --> 01:55:42.362
<v Corriveau, Abby>for asking for our town hosted collection
event days and a lot of towns just don't</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15230-2
01:55:42.362 --> 01:55:45.446
<v Corriveau, Abby>have the budget to have their own
collection day.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15266-0
01:55:45.446 --> 01:55:49.081
<v Corriveau, Abby>So they'll band a few towns will band
together and and pay for it.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15266-1
01:55:49.081 --> 01:55:52.825
<v Corriveau, Abby>If we could have collection days
specifically for battery recycling,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15266-2
01:55:52.825 --> 01:55:56.406
<v Corriveau, Abby>I think that would be great and people
would really utilize that.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15269-0
01:56:00.246 --> 01:56:00.406
<v Hafner, Courtney>OK.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15279-0
01:56:00.406 --> 01:56:03.966
<v Hafner, Courtney>I think it would even be helpful if we
could have.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15273-0
01:56:01.716 --> 01:56:01.956
<v Ashley Seaward>Thank.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15310-0
01:56:05.496 --> 01:56:09.371
<v Hafner, Courtney>If retailers are not necessarily being
asked to collect,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15310-1
01:56:09.371 --> 01:56:14.469
<v Hafner, Courtney>maybe even just having the literature to
be like I bought this thing here,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15310-2
01:56:14.469 --> 01:56:15.896
<v Hafner, Courtney>what do I do with it?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15323-0
01:56:15.896 --> 01:56:20.592
<v Hafner, Courtney>Here's a nifty little card that says this
is where you can take it or sticker</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15323-1
01:56:20.592 --> 01:56:21.736
<v Hafner, Courtney>stickers are great.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15329-0
01:56:23.936 --> 01:56:26.216
<v Hafner, Courtney>Lot of retailers use stickers on their
windows.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15335-0
01:56:28.686 --> 01:56:30.206
<v Hafner, Courtney>OK, Ashley, real quick.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15345-0
01:56:30.636 --> 01:56:32.992
<v Ashley Seaward>And sorry,
I just wanted to add on quickly to Abby's</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15345-1
01:56:32.992 --> 01:56:33.436
<v Ashley Seaward>point too.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15363-0
01:56:33.436 --> 01:56:35.860
<v Ashley Seaward>Is that,
that's another thing in working with the</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15363-1
01:56:35.860 --> 01:56:38.430
<v Ashley Seaward>Rotary clubs.
We also encourage them to partner with</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15363-2
01:56:38.430 --> 01:56:39.836
<v Ashley Seaward>local waste management folks.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15393-0
01:56:41.336 --> 01:56:44.854
<v Ashley Seaward>And local governments to do the events.
And again we we do it on our own dime</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15393-1
01:56:44.854 --> 01:56:48.056
<v Ashley Seaward>because we want to increase collection
and batteries power a business.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15395-0
01:56:48.056 --> 01:56:49.776
<v Ashley Seaward>So we'll pay for it.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15400-0
01:56:51.026 --> 01:56:52.586
<v Hafner, Courtney>Do you actually a question?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15420-0
01:56:52.586 --> 01:56:57.476
<v Hafner, Courtney>Do you when you do those battery events?
Are they specific to batteries only or do</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15420-1
01:56:57.476 --> 01:57:01.306
<v Hafner, Courtney>you also team with and do like other
electronic devices as well?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15462-0
01:57:02.606 --> 01:57:05.613
<v Ashley Seaward>Yeah.
So if we're partnering or were sponsoring</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15462-1
01:57:05.613 --> 01:57:10.186
<v Ashley Seaward>and the it's the Rotary Club on the
ground and they're partnering with a</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15462-2
01:57:10.186 --> 01:57:14.759
<v Ashley Seaward>municipality or local waste management,
multiple items can be collected.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15462-3
01:57:14.759 --> 01:57:19.707
<v Ashley Seaward>But usually our our traditional events we
advertise for lithium ion batteries,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15462-4
01:57:19.707 --> 01:57:21.336
<v Ashley Seaward>but we do not turn anyone.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15489-0
01:57:21.336 --> 01:57:23.704
<v Ashley Seaward>Away.
If somebody comes with a bag of alkaline</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15489-1
01:57:23.704 --> 01:57:26.173
<v Ashley Seaward>batteries,
we accept it because we don't want to</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15489-2
01:57:26.173 --> 01:57:29.246
<v Ashley Seaward>cause any confusion or lessen the
convenience for consumers.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15497-0
01:57:30.016 --> 01:57:32.176
<v Ashley Seaward>We just make sure that those other types
of materials.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15508-0
01:57:32.526 --> 01:57:37.726
<v Ashley Seaward>Get to the proper and safe hands
downstream, so yeah.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15507-0
01:57:36.476 --> 01:57:36.996
<v Hafner, Courtney>Right.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15513-0
01:57:38.676 --> 01:57:40.476
<v Hafner, Courtney>OK. We have a question from the room.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15522-0
01:57:42.016 --> 01:57:43.256
<v Hafner, Courtney>I think it's also important.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15545-0
01:57:43.256 --> 01:57:46.207
<v Hafner, Courtney>I mean,
if you in a way you're trying to market</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15545-1
01:57:46.207 --> 01:57:49.589
<v Hafner, Courtney>your program,
so you need to have branding surrounding</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15545-2
01:57:49.589 --> 01:57:49.896
<v Hafner, Courtney>that.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15571-0
01:57:49.896 --> 01:57:54.189
<v Hafner, Courtney>So whether that be like some type of logo
or something that's recognizable like,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15571-1
01:57:54.189 --> 01:57:56.627
<v Hafner, Courtney>hey,
there's a program in Maine and then it's</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15571-2
01:57:56.627 --> 01:57:58.376
<v Hafner, Courtney>it's like a multi prong approach.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15575-0
01:57:58.376 --> 01:58:00.336
<v Hafner, Courtney>You're like pushing that information out
there.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15595-0
01:58:00.336 --> 01:58:05.182
<v Hafner, Courtney>Let main residents know like, hey,
there's a recycling program for batteries</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15595-1
01:58:05.182 --> 01:58:09.776
<v Hafner, Courtney>and when you know when you see,
like maybe it on a product or something.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15603-0
01:58:10.166 --> 01:58:13.926
<v Hafner, Courtney>Thing or retailer has something that hey,
these products are recyclable.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15613-0
01:58:15.416 --> 01:58:19.216
<v Hafner, Courtney>There's an awareness around like this.
That's what that program meant.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15627-0
01:58:19.216 --> 01:58:22.909
<v Hafner, Courtney>Like when you see a sign like, Oh yeah,
it's manage recycling program for</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15627-1
01:58:22.909 --> 01:58:24.256
<v Hafner, Courtney>batteries like the bilocal.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15631-0
01:58:25.056 --> 01:58:26.256
<v Hafner, Courtney>Yeah, whatever it is.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15641-0
01:58:26.256 --> 01:58:28.593
<v Hafner, Courtney>I mean,
you got a brand around what you're trying</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15641-1
01:58:28.593 --> 01:58:30.696
<v Hafner, Courtney>to do,
so people know and they recognize it.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15646-0
01:58:32.496 --> 01:58:33.936
<v Hafner, Courtney>And it's notable, OK.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15649-0
01:58:33.936 --> 01:58:34.856
<v Hafner, Courtney>Yep, one more for the room.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15697-0
01:58:37.206 --> 01:58:43.309
<v Hafner, Courtney>This this seems like like a so the
Vermont case I've referenced it a couple</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15697-1
01:58:43.309 --> 01:58:46.762
<v Hafner, Courtney>of times,
but one thing that I thought was</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15697-2
01:58:46.762 --> 01:58:53.186
<v Hafner, Courtney>interesting was that Vermont put a take
rate basically in increasing escalating</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15697-3
01:58:53.186 --> 01:58:58.566
<v Hafner, Courtney>scale that call to recycle had to kind of
like meet and they didn.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15717-0
01:58:58.606 --> 01:59:03.780
<v Hafner, Courtney>Meet that escalation and like what's
interesting to me is now thinking about</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15717-1
01:59:03.780 --> 01:59:07.206
<v Hafner, Courtney>it is like,
I wonder if maybe one of the compound.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15749-0
01:59:07.486 --> 01:59:13.107
<v Hafner, Courtney>Reasons was an amazing organization like
Redwood coming in and doing a program and</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15749-1
01:59:13.107 --> 01:59:18.119
<v Hafner, Courtney>now what were batteries that were
supposed to go to the state stewardship</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15749-2
01:59:18.119 --> 01:59:21.166
<v Hafner, Courtney>program is actually everything's right
here.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15756-0
01:59:21.166 --> 01:59:22.926
<v Hafner, Courtney>It's going into the waste stream.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15761-0
01:59:22.926 --> 01:59:25.766
<v Hafner, Courtney>It's being recycled.
Redwoods doing great things.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15788-0
01:59:27.216 --> 01:59:32.806
<v Hafner, Courtney>So maybe it's a suggestion for lessons
learned that whatever the state of Maine</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15788-1
01:59:32.806 --> 01:59:36.369
<v Hafner, Courtney>comes up with,
that we don't dictate very specific</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15788-2
01:59:36.369 --> 01:59:37.696
<v Hafner, Courtney>organizations like.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15817-0
01:59:38.166 --> 01:59:41.578
<v Hafner, Courtney>Increase their effectiveness through
advertising,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15817-1
01:59:41.578 --> 01:59:46.559
<v Hafner, Courtney>outreach and marketing that they're
penalized if they don't achieve that</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15817-2
01:59:46.559 --> 01:59:50.926
<v Hafner, Courtney>because another associated group is still
doing something good.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15823-0
01:59:50.926 --> 01:59:52.366
<v Hafner, Courtney>I don't know if that makes any.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15827-0
01:59:52.366 --> 01:59:53.766
<v Hafner, Courtney>Does that make sense, right?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15841-0
01:59:53.766 --> 01:59:56.406
<v Hafner, Courtney>Because they did. They they were like,
hey, call to recycle.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15859-0
01:59:56.446 --> 02:00:01.336
<v Hafner, Courtney>You have to do this so much in 21 and
then this much increase in 22 and this</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15859-1
02:00:01.336 --> 02:00:02.606
<v Hafner, Courtney>much increase in 23.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15871-0
02:00:03.376 --> 02:00:06.816
<v Hafner, Courtney>And like if you have other good people
coming in, how was that accounted for?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15884-0
02:00:07.486 --> 02:00:09.861
<v Hafner, Courtney>Said that,
those other folks are not penalized</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15884-1
02:00:09.861 --> 02:00:12.286
<v Hafner, Courtney>because things were taken out of the
community.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15888-0
02:00:12.286 --> 02:00:16.406
<v Hafner, Courtney>It was all processed properly, absolutely,
Jennifer.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15890-0
02:00:20.866 --> 02:00:21.546
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>Hello again.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15939-0
02:00:23.016 --> 02:00:28.526
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>Circling back to education,
and when it comes to collection events,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15939-1
02:00:28.526 --> 02:00:35.089
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>I want to reiterate that homeowners have
a lot of exemptions from the rules when</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15939-2
02:00:35.089 --> 02:00:41.976
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>it comes to universal waste and hazardous
waste disposal that businesses don't have.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15950-0
02:00:42.296 --> 02:00:46.685
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>So for these collection events,
for example, put on by Redwood,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/15950-1
02:00:46.685 --> 02:00:48.536
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>you know called to recycle.</v>

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02:00:50.566 --> 02:00:53.591
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>If businesses are bringing their
batteries in,</v>

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02:00:53.591 --> 02:00:58.159
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>they need to be tracking them,
even if they're a small universal waste</v>

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02:00:58.159 --> 02:01:02.342
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>generator and they don't have to ship on
a U ball or a manifest,</v>

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02:01:02.342 --> 02:01:06.846
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>they still need to be tracking their
universal waste cradle to grave.</v>

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02:01:06.886 --> 02:01:10.684
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>They need to be keeping a receiving log.
They need to provide that log to</v>

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02:01:10.684 --> 02:01:12.686
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>whoever's holding the collection event.</v>

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02:01:13.436 --> 02:01:17.236
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>The entity holding the collection event
has to keep a log.</v>

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02:01:18.726 --> 02:01:23.394
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>These are rules that we have in place for
businesses that homeowners are exempt</v>

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02:01:23.394 --> 02:01:26.136
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>from,
so that would also need to be a piece of</v>

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02:01:26.136 --> 02:01:29.462
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>the education.
I believe when it comes to any businesses</v>

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02:01:29.462 --> 02:01:31.446
<v D&#39;Appollonio, Jennifer L>utilizing these collection events.</v>

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02:01:34.626 --> 02:01:34.946
<v Hafner, Courtney>All right.</v>

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02:01:34.946 --> 02:01:37.226
<v Hafner, Courtney>Thank you, Jennifer. Karen.</v>

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02:01:38.806 --> 02:01:39.566
<v Carin Stuart>Yeah. Thanks.</v>

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02:01:39.886 --> 02:01:42.366
<v Carin Stuart>So I just wanted to respond to the
gentleman in the room.</v>

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02:01:42.366 --> 02:01:45.799
<v Carin Stuart>So you hit the nail on the head there
with Vermont and it's not,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/16084-1
02:01:45.799 --> 02:01:47.806
<v Carin Stuart>it's not Redwood. It's not one entity.</v>

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02:01:49.246 --> 02:01:51.086
<v Carin Stuart>There in many states, almost every state.</v>

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02:01:52.846 --> 02:01:56.425
<v Carin Stuart>Batteries do not have to go through the
batteries to organization,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/16122-1
02:01:56.425 --> 02:02:00.699
<v Carin Stuart>but we are held to a standard that says
we have to ever increase the collection</v>

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02:02:00.699 --> 02:02:00.966
<v Carin Stuart>rate.</v>

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02:02:01.166 --> 02:02:04.142
<v Carin Stuart>So for instance, hospitals,
they typically use a hazardous waste</v>

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02:02:04.142 --> 02:02:07.897
<v Carin Stuart>hauler that takes all their batteries out
of the hospital and puts them somewhere</v>

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02:02:07.897 --> 02:02:08.126
<v Carin Stuart>else.</v>

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02:02:08.516 --> 02:02:13.558
<v Carin Stuart>A lot of these batteries were, you know,
are part of our steward members that are</v>

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02:02:13.558 --> 02:02:15.156
<v Carin Stuart>entering into our program.</v>

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02:02:15.196 --> 02:02:18.676
<v Carin Stuart>Retailers often have, you know,
AUS ecology or clean harbors.</v>

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02:02:18.676 --> 02:02:22.965
<v Carin Stuart>They're all taking batteries out and
there's no there's no requirement that</v>

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02:02:22.965 --> 02:02:24.996
<v Carin Stuart>they have to go through our program.</v>

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02:02:25.036 --> 02:02:29.607
<v Carin Stuart>So there are these kind of issues that
are these when you get to these grainy</v>

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02:02:29.607 --> 02:02:30.076
<v Carin Stuart>details.</v>

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02:02:31.526 --> 02:02:33.526
<v Carin Stuart>That you have to account for and so
you're right.</v>

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02:02:33.526 --> 02:02:36.526
<v Carin Stuart>That's one of the issues is batteries.</v>

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02:02:36.526 --> 02:02:39.446
<v Carin Stuart>You'll have to go through us,
but we have to act on behalf of.</v>

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02:02:39.796 --> 02:02:40.996
<v Carin Stuart>The industry legally.</v>

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02:02:42.486 --> 02:02:45.592
<v Carin Stuart>So that they can continue to sell and
retailers can continue to place those</v>

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02:02:45.592 --> 02:02:46.246
<v Carin Stuart>items on market.</v>

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02:02:50.036 --> 02:02:50.196
<v Hafner, Courtney>OK.</v>

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02:02:50.636 --> 02:02:52.676
<v Hafner, Courtney>Thanks, Karen. Ashley.</v>

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02:02:53.756 --> 02:02:57.098
<v Ashley Seaward>Yeah.
And thank you for those comments before.</v>

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02:02:57.098 --> 02:02:58.236
<v Ashley Seaward>I appreciate it.</v>

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02:03:00.086 --> 02:03:04.825
<v Ashley Seaward>The one thing about this so looking at
other states that have passed similar</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/16313-1
02:03:04.825 --> 02:03:09.071
<v Ashley Seaward>legislation, Colorado, Illinois,
they both have very clear dedicated</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/16313-2
02:03:09.071 --> 02:03:13.686
<v Ashley Seaward>sections that talk about independent
collection and it states that anybody</v>

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02:03:13.686 --> 02:03:17.686
<v Ashley Seaward>that's collecting outside of a battery
stewardship organization,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/16313-4
02:03:17.686 --> 02:03:20.086
<v Ashley Seaward>they can collect, but they have to for.</v>

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02:03:20.086 --> 02:03:22.726
<v Ashley Seaward>Any batteries they collect to a battery
stewardship organization?</v>

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02:03:23.676 --> 02:03:28.953
<v Ashley Seaward>And from what my experience in this is
that the purpose of that is for data</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/16374-1
02:03:28.953 --> 02:03:34.299
<v Ashley Seaward>tracking and just making sure the state
is reaching its goals and we want to</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/16374-2
02:03:34.299 --> 02:03:37.840
<v Ashley Seaward>assist with that.
We want to be able to reach that</v>

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02:03:37.840 --> 02:03:40.686
<v Ashley Seaward>collection rate if not over reach it and.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/16379-0
02:03:40.686 --> 02:03:41.396
<v Ashley Seaward>Go above and beyond.</v>

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02:03:41.396 --> 02:03:45.629
<v Ashley Seaward>So that's one thing that we've been
coming to the table is saying, hey, like,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/16399-1
02:03:45.629 --> 02:03:47.636
<v Ashley Seaward>you know, we're not just some random.</v>

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02:03:48.366 --> 02:03:49.966
<v Ashley Seaward>Organization collecting batteries.</v>

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02:03:49.966 --> 02:03:52.446
<v Ashley Seaward>We specialize in lithium ion batteries.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/16418-0
02:03:52.876 --> 02:03:53.916
<v Ashley Seaward>We do this every day.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/16420-0
02:03:53.916 --> 02:03:55.036
<v Ashley Seaward>It's our bread and butter.</v>

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02:03:56.566 --> 02:04:00.542
<v Ashley Seaward>And we are more than happy to provide any
data to the battery stewardship</v>

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02:04:00.542 --> 02:04:04.088
<v Ashley Seaward>organizations or the state,
whatever's required to make sure that</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/16460-2
02:04:04.088 --> 02:04:07.526
<v Ashley Seaward>that transparency is there and
everybody's meeting their goals.</v>

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02:04:07.526 --> 02:04:11.586
<v Ashley Seaward>But we just want to be able to collect as
well because it's a, you know,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/16489-1
02:04:11.586 --> 02:04:16.203
<v Ashley Seaward>it's a big piece of our business and it's
just a way that we can come to the table</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/16489-2
02:04:16.203 --> 02:04:19.206
<v Ashley Seaward>to assist and have a win win situation
for everybody.</v>

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02:04:23.756 --> 02:04:24.076
<v Hafner, Courtney>All right.</v>

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02:04:24.076 --> 02:04:24.796
<v Hafner, Courtney>Thank you, Ashley.</v>

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02:04:26.286 --> 02:04:27.808
<v Hafner, Courtney>Oh yeah,
I guess that'll kind of lead that</v>

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02:04:27.808 --> 02:04:28.126
<v Hafner, Courtney>actually.</v>

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02:04:28.126 --> 02:04:32.668
<v Hafner, Courtney>Kind of leads into just the one of the
one of our questions in the stewardship</v>

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02:04:32.668 --> 02:04:35.485
<v Hafner, Courtney>in the,
in the background document was what type</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/16547-2
02:04:35.485 --> 02:04:39.739
<v Hafner, Courtney>of reporting requirements should be
required of the producers and and and</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/16547-3
02:04:39.739 --> 02:04:41.406
<v Hafner, Courtney>made available to the public.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/16555-0
02:04:41.406 --> 02:04:42.846
<v Hafner, Courtney>So I'll say is there is there.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/16560-0
02:04:42.846 --> 02:04:46.726
<v Hafner, Courtney>Is there any particular reporting
requirements that?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/16569-0
02:04:48.366 --> 02:04:52.446
<v Hafner, Courtney>Folks are particularly interested in that
should be.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/16574-0
02:04:53.806 --> 02:04:56.566
<v Hafner, Courtney>Specified in in the program.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/16576-0
02:05:01.406 --> 02:05:02.086
<v Hafner, Courtney>Got one in the room.</v>

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02:05:03.606 --> 02:05:07.021
<v Hafner, Courtney>I was still spraying my hesitation in
terms of going all the way back to the</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/16625-1
02:05:07.021 --> 02:05:09.682
<v Hafner, Courtney>producer because, again,
in the more fragmented industries,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/16625-2
02:05:09.682 --> 02:05:12.165
<v Hafner, Courtney>you already,
if you're gonna put this across, you know,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/16625-3
02:05:12.165 --> 02:05:15.181
<v Hafner, Courtney>3000 retailers in this state,
if you're then trying to reach across</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/16625-4
02:05:15.181 --> 02:05:15.846
<v Hafner, Courtney>state lines to.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/16664-0
02:05:15.846 --> 02:05:20.144
<v Hafner, Courtney>Get reporting from producers that opens
it up to places you know throughout the</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/16664-1
02:05:20.144 --> 02:05:22.777
<v Hafner, Courtney>world.
It could be a producer bringing something</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/16664-2
02:05:22.777 --> 02:05:25.033
<v Hafner, Courtney>in.
I think there should be some level of</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/16664-3
02:05:25.033 --> 02:05:29.224
<v Hafner, Courtney>accountability of what can actually be
tracked so that the execution of it is</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/16664-4
02:05:29.224 --> 02:05:30.406
<v Hafner, Courtney>well within the state.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/16670-0
02:05:33.566 --> 02:05:34.206
<v Hafner, Courtney>I guess too.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/16689-0
02:05:34.206 --> 02:05:36.418
<v Hafner, Courtney>I was gonna say also not just the
producers,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/16689-1
02:05:36.418 --> 02:05:40.400
<v Hafner, Courtney>but of the organizations themselves that
are doing the collections and that that</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/16689-2
02:05:40.400 --> 02:05:42.366
<v Hafner, Courtney>type of thing. OK, one more in the room.</v>

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02:05:42.366 --> 02:05:45.119
<v Hafner, Courtney>Yeah,
just that that was also like a a kind of</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/16697-1
02:05:45.119 --> 02:05:45.646
<v Hafner, Courtney>question.</v>

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02:05:45.646 --> 02:05:51.245
<v Hafner, Courtney>It was very clear how what producers were
in what legislation has gone through the</v>

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02:05:51.245 --> 02:05:55.023
<v Hafner, Courtney>state of Maine here,
but the clarity provided this this</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/16724-2
02:05:55.023 --> 02:05:58.126
<v Hafner, Courtney>gradient from the person that actually
makes.</v>

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02:05:58.806 --> 02:06:02.444
<v Hafner, Courtney>It to the person that distributes it to
the person that sells it and that</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/16740-1
02:06:02.444 --> 02:06:02.886
<v Hafner, Courtney>gradient.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/16751-0
02:06:03.766 --> 02:06:08.286
<v Hafner, Courtney>Like the reporting requirements that each
of those echelons have.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/16785-0
02:06:08.366 --> 02:06:13.182
<v Hafner, Courtney>Like I to try to like figure out my silly
comment was just gonna be I think they</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/16785-1
02:06:13.182 --> 02:06:17.463
<v Hafner, Courtney>should use pre-existing reporting
requirements and then if you can make</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/16785-2
02:06:17.463 --> 02:06:22.100
<v Hafner, Courtney>sense of something they already have to
report anyway and great you still get</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/16785-3
02:06:22.100 --> 02:06:23.646
<v Hafner, Courtney>your own goal but like it.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/16802-0
02:06:23.646 --> 02:06:27.794
<v Hafner, Courtney>Just such a complicated thing if you
don't take the actual producers away from</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/16802-1
02:06:27.794 --> 02:06:28.686
<v Hafner, Courtney>the conversation.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/16817-0
02:06:29.366 --> 02:06:34.086
<v Hafner, Courtney>This is a conversation about distributors
in the electronic smoking instance.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/16835-0
02:06:34.356 --> 02:06:39.225
<v Hafner, Courtney>Like it becomes really complicated.
How to give input that that department</v>

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<v Hafner, Courtney>can actually action if that makes sense.
Alright mark.</v>

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02:06:45.506 --> 02:06:47.106
<v Boolish, Marc>Oops, sorry I didn't have my mic down.</v>

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02:06:48.606 --> 02:06:51.326
<v Boolish, Marc>So the the model that I mentioned before,
I mean there is a hierarchy.</v>

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02:06:51.326 --> 02:06:52.246
<v Boolish, Marc>It walks through.</v>

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02:06:52.246 --> 02:06:53.926
<v Boolish, Marc>What is the definition of a producer?</v>

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<v Boolish, Marc>Because you're right exactly that.</v>

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02:06:56.006 --> 02:07:00.683
<v Boolish, Marc>You know who is the producer can be very
complicated in some ways because of the</v>

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02:07:00.683 --> 02:07:02.646
<v Boolish, Marc>way the products enter the market.</v>

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02:07:02.646 --> 02:07:05.986
<v Boolish, Marc>So there is definitely a hierarchy in
there that defines that and that is</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/16906-1
02:07:05.986 --> 02:07:09.326
<v Boolish, Marc>something that's been vetted across a
number of different states already.</v>

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02:07:11.086 --> 02:07:14.366
<v Boolish, Marc>And it seemed that we haven't had a lot
of comments on it recently.</v>

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02:07:14.756 --> 02:07:18.516
<v Boolish, Marc>So I think we've probably gotten to the
point where it's where it needs to be.</v>

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02:07:20.046 --> 02:07:22.406
<v Boolish, Marc>And obviously happy to provide that.</v>

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02:07:24.206 --> 02:07:24.326
<v Boolish, Marc>And.</v>

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02:07:25.156 --> 02:07:27.116
<v Boolish, Marc>I believe you do have our model.</v>

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02:07:27.116 --> 02:07:28.676
<v Boolish, Marc>If you don't, I certainly can supply it.</v>

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02:07:28.676 --> 02:07:31.276
<v Boolish, Marc>I thought I did, but if if not,
I I can certainly do that.</v>

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02:07:35.786 --> 02:07:37.186
<v Hafner, Courtney>Yeah, that would be.</v>

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02:07:37.666 --> 02:07:38.626
<v Hafner, Courtney>That would be great, mark.</v>

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02:07:38.626 --> 02:07:41.706
<v Hafner, Courtney>I I can't remember off the top of my head
if I have that or not.</v>

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02:07:44.166 --> 02:07:44.606
<v Boolish, Marc>OK.</v>

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02:07:45.576 --> 02:07:45.896
<v Hafner, Courtney>All right.</v>

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02:07:45.896 --> 02:07:47.456
<v Hafner, Courtney>Thank you, Katie.</v>

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02:07:46.516 --> 02:07:47.156
<v Boolish, Marc>I'll double check.</v>

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02:07:49.446 --> 02:07:51.940
<v Katie Reilly>Yeah. On the,
I just wanted to chime in on the product</v>

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02:07:51.940 --> 02:07:54.072
<v Katie Reilly>side,
maybe a little less complicated than the</v>

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02:07:54.072 --> 02:07:56.884
<v Katie Reilly>battery side of things.
If you're talking about potential for</v>

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02:07:56.884 --> 02:08:00.648
<v Katie Reilly>removable batteries that are in products
versus a manufacturer of loose batteries.</v>

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02:08:00.648 --> 02:08:03.006
<v Katie Reilly>But from their product perspective under
our elect.</v>

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02:08:03.126 --> 02:08:04.166
<v Katie Reilly>EPR systems.</v>

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02:08:04.166 --> 02:08:08.777
<v Katie Reilly>We also have a pretty widely accepted
definition of what a manufacturer is,</v>

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02:08:08.777 --> 02:08:11.508
<v Katie Reilly>and again,
sort of that tiered based on its,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17083-2
02:08:11.508 --> 02:08:14.480
<v Katie Reilly>you know,
the brand owner label and then kind of</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17083-3
02:08:14.480 --> 02:08:18.606
<v Katie Reilly>falling under that if that brand owner
isn't able to be identified.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17093-0
02:08:19.176 --> 02:08:22.416
<v Katie Reilly>So there's a working structure and
definition out there for products.</v>

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02:08:27.416 --> 02:08:27.736
<v Hafner, Courtney>All right.</v>

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02:08:27.736 --> 02:08:28.736
<v Hafner, Courtney>Thank you, Katie.</v>

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02:08:30.286 --> 02:08:32.766
<v Hafner, Courtney>Any other comments?</v>

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02:08:40.616 --> 02:08:43.856
<v Hafner, Courtney>All right.
I think I'll move on to just the general</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17114-1
02:08:43.856 --> 02:08:44.416
<v Hafner, Courtney>question.</v>

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02:08:44.416 --> 02:08:46.216
<v Hafner, Courtney>I was kind of.
I mentioned in the beginning.</v>

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02:08:46.216 --> 02:08:49.856
<v Hafner, Courtney>I'll mention again in terms of
harmonizing with other jurisdictions.</v>

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02:08:52.166 --> 02:08:55.766
<v Hafner, Courtney>Again, are there any particular? I mean,
I think there was.</v>

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02:08:55.806 --> 02:08:59.166
<v Hafner, Courtney>I think it's the universe is still rather
small from.</v>

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02:09:01.806 --> 02:09:06.048
<v Hafner, Courtney>The math we saw earlier,
but are there any any jurisdictions that</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17167-1
02:09:06.048 --> 02:09:09.326
<v Hafner, Courtney>anyone would would point out as having
particular?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17172-0
02:09:09.636 --> 02:09:12.796
<v Hafner, Courtney>I'll say successful.</v>

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02:09:16.326 --> 02:09:21.486
<v Hafner, Courtney>Programs or ideas that we might wanna
work harder at harmonizing with?</v>

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02:09:27.416 --> 02:09:28.256
<v Hafner, Courtney>Flee. Go ahead.</v>

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<v Ashley Seaward>Hi again.</v>

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02:09:31.236 --> 02:09:35.148
<v Ashley Seaward>I'll just say that if I have my list
correct, it's seven states,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17206-1
02:09:35.148 --> 02:09:37.676
<v Ashley Seaward>including Washington, DC that have passed.</v>

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02:09:39.166 --> 02:09:43.061
<v Ashley Seaward>Laws for portable in medium format
battery, EPR.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17224-1
02:09:43.061 --> 02:09:45.366
<v Ashley Seaward>So we're still early innings.</v>

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<v Ashley Seaward>There's only a handful of those states
that have gone into implementation or</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17259-1
02:09:51.030 --> 02:09:54.437
<v Ashley Seaward>have been live,
Vermont being one of those states,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17259-2
02:09:54.437 --> 02:09:59.246
<v Ashley Seaward>but a lot of states are in multi year
rule makings trying to implement.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17265-0
02:09:59.556 --> 02:10:00.516
<v Ashley Seaward>And and get this.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17268-0
02:10:01.116 --> 02:10:02.676
<v Ashley Seaward>Get these programs live.</v>

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02:10:03.036 --> 02:10:07.596
<v Ashley Seaward>So we're just, we're early stages,
there was 15 states I worked in this year</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17291-1
02:10:07.596 --> 02:10:12.274
<v Ashley Seaward>that was considering similar legislation
and every state that does consider is</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17291-2
02:10:12.274 --> 02:10:13.636
<v Ashley Seaward>evolving and improving.</v>

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02:10:13.636 --> 02:10:18.423
<v Ashley Seaward>So I think whatever we get to hear from
Maine is going to be the best version,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17313-1
02:10:18.423 --> 02:10:21.876
<v Ashley Seaward>hopefully of all the lessons learned from
states so far.</v>

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02:10:23.366 --> 02:10:26.127
<v Ashley Seaward>But with that being said,
I don't think there's a state necessarily</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17339-1
02:10:26.127 --> 02:10:28.726
<v Ashley Seaward>that is totally hit the nail on this from
redwoods perspective.</v>

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02:10:29.716 --> 02:10:32.611
<v Ashley Seaward>I will say as well that the Recycled
Materials Association,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17381-1
02:10:32.611 --> 02:10:36.470
<v Ashley Seaward>the Trade Association, were a part of.
I don't believe they're here on the call</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17381-2
02:10:36.470 --> 02:10:39.268
<v Ashley Seaward>today and I'll encourage them to attend
the next meeting.</v>

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02:10:39.268 --> 02:10:42.596
<v Ashley Seaward>But they do have their own model
legislation for portable and medium</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17381-4
02:10:42.596 --> 02:10:43.416
<v Ashley Seaward>format battery E.</v>

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02:10:43.406 --> 02:10:43.676
<v Ashley Seaward>As well.</v>

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02:10:45.286 --> 02:10:49.286
<v Ashley Seaward>And the last thing I will say here.</v>

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02:10:51.206 --> 02:10:56.990
<v Ashley Seaward>Was noting once more that Colorado and
Illinois have those forfeiture provisions</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17411-1
02:10:56.990 --> 02:10:58.846
<v Ashley Seaward>that we do not agree with.</v>

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02:10:59.156 --> 02:11:02.436
<v Ashley Seaward>And don't eat in a in a more fruitful
program.</v>

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02:11:03.036 --> 02:11:05.218
<v Ashley Seaward>But yeah,
we look forward to being a partner with</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17429-1
02:11:05.218 --> 02:11:05.916
<v Ashley Seaward>you all on this.</v>

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02:11:09.636 --> 02:11:09.916
<v Hafner, Courtney>Katie.</v>

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02:11:11.656 --> 02:11:14.016
<v Katie Reilly>Yeah, I know.
I've kind of stated this before.</v>

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02:11:14.246 --> 02:11:19.202
<v Katie Reilly>So we have 24 states here in the US,
plus the District of Columbia that have</v>

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02:11:19.202 --> 02:11:22.806
<v Katie Reilly>electronics EPR programs,
including the state of Maine.</v>

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02:11:24.456 --> 02:11:27.485
<v Katie Reilly>There is only one state with a law on
battery.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17488-1
02:11:27.485 --> 02:11:31.867
<v Katie Reilly>Embedded products is like its own
category and that is the state of</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17488-2
02:11:31.867 --> 02:11:32.576
<v Katie Reilly>California.</v>

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02:11:32.616 --> 02:11:35.156
<v Katie Reilly>Again,
that's the fee charged to consumers that</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17511-1
02:11:35.156 --> 02:11:39.179
<v Katie Reilly>will fund the collection and recycling
system for battery embedded products</v>

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02:11:39.179 --> 02:11:42.407
<v Katie Reilly>there in California.
And that program officially launches on</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17511-3
02:11:42.407 --> 02:11:42.936
<v Katie Reilly>January 1.</v>

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02:11:43.606 --> 02:11:47.997
<v Katie Reilly>Right now I think what is actually
happening is a broader conversation at a</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17543-1
02:11:47.997 --> 02:11:52.446
<v Katie Reilly>lot of different levels around the best
system for handling battery embedded</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17543-2
02:11:52.446 --> 02:11:52.966
<v Katie Reilly>products.</v>

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02:11:53.006 --> 02:11:56.126
<v Katie Reilly>Those conversations are happening among
industry groups.</v>

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02:11:56.126 --> 02:11:57.806
<v Katie Reilly>They're happening with the US EPA.</v>

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02:11:58.726 --> 02:12:00.926
<v Katie Reilly>They're happening with the state of
Minnesota.</v>

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02:12:01.566 --> 02:12:04.766
<v Katie Reilly>So again,
it's an evolving discussion there.</v>

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02:12:04.766 --> 02:12:09.486
<v Katie Reilly>I don't anyone has an answer right now on
what the best path forward is.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17595-0
02:12:10.216 --> 02:12:12.776
<v Katie Reilly>More stakeholder dialogue kind of
understanding the complexity.</v>

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02:12:13.126 --> 02:12:17.315
<v Katie Reilly>City around the broad scope of what is
battery, embedded products,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17613-1
02:12:17.315 --> 02:12:19.566
<v Katie Reilly>and the complexity that that brings.</v>

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02:12:19.806 --> 02:12:22.006
<v Katie Reilly>So I just want to provide that background
info.</v>

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02:12:24.446 --> 02:12:24.606
<v Hafner, Courtney>OK.</v>

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02:12:24.886 --> 02:12:25.686
<v Hafner, Courtney>Thank you, Katie.</v>

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02:12:27.886 --> 02:12:28.766
<v Hafner, Courtney>And mark?</v>

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02:12:32.446 --> 02:12:34.166
<v Boolish, Marc>Sorry, I had myself double muted there.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17640-0
02:12:34.166 --> 02:12:36.846
<v Boolish, Marc>I'm not even sure how I did that,
and I apparently raised my hand twice.</v>

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02:12:37.846 --> 02:12:41.900
<v Boolish, Marc>I just wanted to address,
you know that we were the comment about</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17666-1
02:12:41.900 --> 02:12:46.875
<v Boolish, Marc>you know where the materials go and who
who gets the materials or the forfeiture</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17666-2
02:12:46.875 --> 02:12:47.366
<v Boolish, Marc>comment.</v>

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02:12:47.766 --> 02:12:49.846
<v Boolish, Marc>So in the in the states.</v>

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02:12:49.846 --> 02:12:51.286
<v Boolish, Marc>So I'll start with the model build.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17699-0
02:12:51.286 --> 02:12:55.960
<v Boolish, Marc>The model build does not exclude having
multiple stewardship organizations.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17699-1
02:12:55.960 --> 02:12:59.036
<v Boolish, Marc>However,
what it does do is that it requires that</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17699-2
02:12:59.036 --> 02:13:01.926
<v Boolish, Marc>in order to collect batteries,
you have to be.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17707-0
02:13:02.046 --> 02:13:05.166
<v Boolish, Marc>Be a an approved plan in the state.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17708-0
02:13:05.326 --> 02:13:05.886
<v Boolish, Marc>So what?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17720-0
02:13:05.886 --> 02:13:10.301
<v Boolish, Marc>That does it prevents other organizations
from coming in and just doing whatever</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17720-1
02:13:10.301 --> 02:13:10.846
<v Boolish, Marc>they want.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17744-0
02:13:11.366 --> 02:13:14.453
<v Boolish, Marc>So a stewardship,
organization or organizations has to</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17744-1
02:13:14.453 --> 02:13:17.372
<v Boolish, Marc>submit a plan,
and then that has to be approved and</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17744-2
02:13:17.372 --> 02:13:20.964
<v Boolish, Marc>overseen by the state,
both from the initial plan and then with</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17744-3
02:13:20.964 --> 02:13:21.806
<v Boolish, Marc>annual reports.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17761-0
02:13:22.006 --> 02:13:24.957
<v Boolish, Marc>So if anybody else can come in and do
something,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17761-1
02:13:24.957 --> 02:13:27.246
<v Boolish, Marc>then there's no state oversight on it.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17770-0
02:13:28.016 --> 02:13:30.096
<v Boolish, Marc>Another part of that is with the plan.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17774-0
02:13:30.416 --> 02:13:32.096
<v Boolish, Marc>The plan has to submit.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17810-0
02:13:32.526 --> 02:13:36.635
<v Boolish, Marc>Metrics on how that plan will perform
year on year and in order for a</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17810-1
02:13:36.635 --> 02:13:39.217
<v Boolish, Marc>stewardship,
organization or organizations.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17810-2
02:13:39.217 --> 02:13:43.972
<v Boolish, Marc>I'll keep saying that in the plural sense
in order for them to be able to report</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17810-3
02:13:43.972 --> 02:13:48.256
<v Boolish, Marc>what batteries are coming back in and
being able to report to the state.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17831-0
02:13:48.366 --> 02:13:52.263
<v Boolish, Marc>They need to know what the batteries are
that are actually being recovered,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17831-1
02:13:52.263 --> 02:13:54.006
<v Boolish, Marc>so that is part of that provision.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17850-0
02:13:54.046 --> 02:13:58.936
<v Boolish, Marc>So that's the reason why it's saying it's
like the stewardship organization has to</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17850-1
02:13:58.936 --> 02:14:00.526
<v Boolish, Marc>know what the numerator is.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17853-0
02:14:01.256 --> 02:14:01.576
<v Boolish, Marc>On the batteries.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17881-0
02:14:01.926 --> 02:14:05.564
<v Boolish, Marc>Being collected versus the denominator of
the batteries that are placed on the</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17881-1
02:14:05.564 --> 02:14:08.741
<v Boolish, Marc>market and unless they do,
the number with a being being reported is</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17881-2
02:14:08.741 --> 02:14:09.846
<v Boolish, Marc>essentially meaningless.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17888-0
02:14:16.566 --> 02:14:19.326
<v Hafner, Courtney>Yeah, that's my choice. That's yeah.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17892-0
02:14:19.326 --> 02:14:19.766
<v Hafner, Courtney>Thanks mark.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17911-0
02:14:19.766 --> 02:14:22.920
<v Hafner, Courtney>I mean,
that's kind of similar with bottle</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17911-1
02:14:22.920 --> 02:14:28.126
<v Hafner, Courtney>redemption just determining redemption
rates being a redemption state.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17913-0
02:14:32.236 --> 02:14:33.396
<v Hafner, Courtney>Ashley.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17916-0
02:14:34.996 --> 02:14:35.636
<v Ashley Seaward>Thank you.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17923-0
02:14:37.536 --> 02:14:38.176
<v Ashley Seaward>And thank you, Mark.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17928-0
02:14:38.176 --> 02:14:40.656
<v Ashley Seaward>I know we talk about this frequently, so.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17960-0
02:14:42.656 --> 02:14:47.776
<v Ashley Seaward>The the one thing I wanted to add on to
that is that reminder again that you know</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17960-1
02:14:47.776 --> 02:14:51.834
<v Ashley Seaward>organizations like ours,
businesses like ours have no issue with</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17960-2
02:14:51.834 --> 02:14:54.456
<v Ashley Seaward>reporting data on what has been collected.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17983-0
02:14:54.536 --> 02:14:59.822
<v Ashley Seaward>I think the the the intention of that
provision and not just allowing anybody</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17983-1
02:14:59.822 --> 02:15:04.972
<v Ashley Seaward>to be able to collect and not having
oversight and transparency into what's</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/17983-2
02:15:04.972 --> 02:15:06.056
<v Ashley Seaward>being collected.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18008-0
02:15:06.406 --> 02:15:09.994
<v Ashley Seaward>It is is valid,
but it it falls short in that it</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18008-1
02:15:09.994 --> 02:15:15.560
<v Ashley Seaward>shortsighted in that it's cutting out
recyclers that are already doing this</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18008-2
02:15:15.560 --> 02:15:15.926
<v Ashley Seaward>work.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18018-0
02:15:17.536 --> 02:15:19.376
<v Ashley Seaward>And you know,
we're qualified to do this work.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18050-0
02:15:19.376 --> 02:15:24.426
<v Ashley Seaward>So whether it's just specifically stating
that recyclers can collect and are not</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18050-1
02:15:24.426 --> 02:15:28.415
<v Ashley Seaward>having to act as a battery stewardship
organization themselves,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18050-2
02:15:28.415 --> 02:15:33.590
<v Ashley Seaward>but are just doing the work they already
do day-to-day is kind of what we're we're</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18050-3
02:15:33.590 --> 02:15:35.896
<v Ashley Seaward>looking after, so totally understand.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18082-0
02:15:36.206 --> 02:15:39.429
<v Ashley Seaward>And the want for protection and
transparency and data,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18082-1
02:15:39.429 --> 02:15:44.118
<v Ashley Seaward>and we're definitely willing to give that
as is others that we work with in the</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18082-2
02:15:44.118 --> 02:15:46.286
<v Ashley Seaward>recycled Materials Trade Association.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18086-0
02:15:46.286 --> 02:15:48.926
<v Ashley Seaward>But yeah, it's unfortunately just.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18127-0
02:15:50.416 --> 02:15:53.807
<v Ashley Seaward>Has been written in a way that makes it
very difficult and and for us moving</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18127-1
02:15:53.807 --> 02:15:56.052
<v Ashley Seaward>forward,
like we're not going to be able to do our</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18127-2
02:15:56.052 --> 02:15:59.399
<v Ashley Seaward>events and we can't have our bins in
Colorado or Illinois with the way that</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18127-3
02:15:59.399 --> 02:16:00.896
<v Ashley Seaward>those legislation are are written.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18129-0
02:16:08.686 --> 02:16:08.806
<v Hafner, Courtney>Yes.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18133-0
02:16:09.806 --> 02:16:10.966
<v Hafner, Courtney>Thank you, Ashley.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18138-0
02:16:14.926 --> 02:16:18.006
<v Hafner, Courtney>Anyone else on this subject?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18146-0
02:16:18.726 --> 02:16:21.006
<v Hafner, Courtney>Just so you know,
we're at our 45 minute mark.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18183-0
02:16:21.046 --> 02:16:24.405
<v Hafner, Courtney>Yeah, I'm actually.
So I've kind of I think most of the I've</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18183-1
02:16:24.405 --> 02:16:28.479
<v Hafner, Courtney>kind of hit most of the topics,
some of the questions kind of I didn't go</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18183-2
02:16:28.479 --> 02:16:30.406
<v Hafner, Courtney>to, I didn't ask all the questions.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18190-0
02:16:30.406 --> 02:16:33.046
<v Hafner, Courtney>We've kind of posed because I think some
of them had been answered.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18204-0
02:16:33.886 --> 02:16:39.406
<v Hafner, Courtney>So I think I'm think I'm gonna just go to
the freer and the free free form.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18211-0
02:16:40.256 --> 02:16:44.016
<v Hafner, Courtney>Section for the free roaming part of the
the meeting.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18226-0
02:16:44.206 --> 02:16:52.372
<v Hafner, Courtney>And does anyone have anything they wish
to bring up that hasn't been brought up</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18226-1
02:16:52.372 --> 02:16:53.086
<v Hafner, Courtney>so far?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18238-0
02:16:57.906 --> 02:17:01.345
<v Hafner, Courtney>For revisiting any other topics that
we've already spoke about, yeah,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18238-1
02:17:01.345 --> 02:17:02.426
<v Hafner, Courtney>our revisiting topics.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18243-0
02:17:07.426 --> 02:17:08.266
<v Hafner, Courtney>From the Roo.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18245-0
02:17:09.776 --> 02:17:09.856
<v Hafner, Courtney>Ft.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18251-0
02:17:11.976 --> 02:17:19.976
<v Hafner, Courtney>OPS held to,
but like when you and I talked, Brian.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18299-0
02:17:21.616 --> 02:17:25.721
<v Hafner, Courtney>The expectation that I felt our group
gave to the environment and Natural</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18299-1
02:17:25.721 --> 02:17:29.937
<v Hafner, Courtney>Resources Committee that we would come
into their next session with not all</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18299-2
02:17:29.937 --> 02:17:33.542
<v Hafner, Courtney>their problems solved,
but good information that they could make</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18299-3
02:17:33.542 --> 02:17:37.536
<v Hafner, Courtney>progress on stewardship program specific
to electronic smoking devices.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18311-0
02:17:38.606 --> 02:17:41.646
<v Hafner, Courtney>And so that's like a commitment I feel
I've made.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18345-0
02:17:41.646 --> 02:17:47.234
<v Hafner, Courtney>I want to do it alongside industry and
the state and I just want to know like</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18345-1
02:17:47.234 --> 02:17:51.103
<v Hafner, Courtney>how that maybe fits within this general
conversation.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18345-2
02:17:51.103 --> 02:17:56.620
<v Hafner, Courtney>Your pathway forward for the upcoming
session and actually honestly now with</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18345-3
02:17:56.620 --> 02:17:57.766
<v Hafner, Courtney>even more input.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18362-0
02:17:57.806 --> 02:18:03.886
<v Hafner, Courtney>The reasonableness of what I had thought
might be a good potential getting some</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18362-1
02:18:03.886 --> 02:18:06.166
<v Hafner, Courtney>progress in this next session.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18366-0
02:18:06.896 --> 02:18:07.536
<v Hafner, Courtney>And I'm just like.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18389-0
02:18:08.556 --> 02:18:13.835
<v Hafner, Courtney>I'm curious if you also feel this is a
complex enough to where how do we</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18389-1
02:18:13.835 --> 02:18:17.956
<v Hafner, Courtney>approach the legislature in a successful
way? How do we?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18396-0
02:18:19.536 --> 02:18:20.496
<v Hafner, Courtney>What's the pathway look like?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18418-0
02:18:20.496 --> 02:18:23.975
<v Hafner, Courtney>Well,
my pathway looks to we're going to take</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18418-1
02:18:23.975 --> 02:18:30.024
<v Hafner, Courtney>what we've heard today and comments that
people submitted and I am committed to</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18418-2
02:18:30.024 --> 02:18:30.856
<v Hafner, Courtney>putting in.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18421-0
02:18:34.176 --> 02:18:34.216
<v Hafner, Courtney>A.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18428-0
02:18:34.496 --> 02:18:37.376
<v Hafner, Courtney>A draft conceptual bill for battery.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18430-0
02:18:37.766 --> 02:18:38.406
<v Hafner, Courtney>Please.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18432-0
02:18:42.006 --> 02:18:42.886
<v Hafner, Courtney>For batteries.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18444-0
02:18:44.416 --> 02:18:49.456
<v Hafner, Courtney>In this year's product stewardship report
for the legislature to consider.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18453-0
02:18:51.176 --> 02:18:53.976
<v Hafner, Courtney>And that's gonna be for batteries.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18455-0
02:18:54.056 --> 02:18:55.856
<v Hafner, Courtney>I don't see.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18459-0
02:18:59.246 --> 02:19:00.606
<v Hafner, Courtney>I really don't see.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18464-0
02:19:03.056 --> 02:19:04.576
<v Hafner, Courtney>It'll it'll address.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18498-0
02:19:06.616 --> 02:19:10.090
<v Hafner, Courtney>And I'll say it'll address embedded
batteries,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18498-1
02:19:10.090 --> 02:19:16.002
<v Hafner, Courtney>including Bay pens and A and a fashion
that I'm not quite sure how it will work</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18498-2
02:19:16.002 --> 02:19:18.736
<v Hafner, Courtney>yet, because I do say there is still.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18504-0
02:19:19.856 --> 02:19:21.256
<v Hafner, Courtney>I can't remember the number.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18518-0
02:19:21.296 --> 02:19:27.376
<v Hafner, Courtney>LD whatever there is still the product
keyword ship Bill sitting on the 15191519.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18523-0
02:19:27.376 --> 02:19:27.896
<v Hafner, Courtney>Thank you.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18527-0
02:19:27.896 --> 02:19:30.856
<v Hafner, Courtney>That was tabled until the next session so.</v>

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02:19:31.776 --> 02:19:32.776
<v Hafner, Courtney>Yeah, Senator Ben Stiller.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18536-0
02:19:33.246 --> 02:19:34.206
<v Hafner, Courtney>Yeah, yeah.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18574-0
02:19:34.646 --> 02:19:38.461
<v Hafner, Courtney>And we had talked like it's hard to,
I think I could interpret how Senator</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18574-1
02:19:38.461 --> 02:19:42.582
<v Hafner, Courtney>Bennett and representative Graham like
left their bills and what the intent was.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18574-2
02:19:42.582 --> 02:19:45.939
<v Hafner, Courtney>And I think that you could reasonably
interpret that differently.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18574-3
02:19:45.939 --> 02:19:48.686
<v Hafner, Courtney>I think kind of we discussed they left us
in a funny.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18589-0
02:19:48.686 --> 02:19:51.665
<v Hafner, Courtney>Spot where there's two bills don't
compete with each other,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18589-1
02:19:51.665 --> 02:19:53.006
<v Hafner, Courtney>but they don't necessarily.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18606-0
02:19:54.456 --> 02:19:59.972
<v Hafner, Courtney>Support each other fully well, I think.
I mean and and I could be remembering</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18606-1
02:19:59.972 --> 02:20:02.376
<v Hafner, Courtney>this wrong, but I believe Bennett.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18615-0
02:20:02.846 --> 02:20:07.766
<v Hafner, Courtney>Spill with vapes was more specific to
banning disposables.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18623-0
02:20:08.086 --> 02:20:13.406
<v Hafner, Courtney>And not actually and then and then
evaluating.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18626-0
02:20:17.236 --> 02:20:18.716
<v Hafner, Courtney>Evaluating.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18649-0
02:20:20.256 --> 02:20:26.316
<v Hafner, Courtney>Including other non covered batteries and
maybe battery devices into the current</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18649-1
02:20:26.316 --> 02:20:28.336
<v Hafner, Courtney>interpretable thing, right?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18662-0
02:20:28.336 --> 02:20:32.869
<v Hafner, Courtney>So, so again,
that's what I'm I'm I'm saying to myself,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18662-1
02:20:32.869 --> 02:20:35.216
<v Hafner, Courtney>I'm saying my thinking is we.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18682-0
02:20:37.416 --> 02:20:45.234
<v Hafner, Courtney>Grammix bill is there and tabled and I'm
concentrating on the battery portion of</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18682-1
02:20:45.234 --> 02:20:46.296
<v Hafner, Courtney>Demix bill.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18687-0
02:20:49.836 --> 02:20:52.756
<v Hafner, Courtney>That's my goal.
What I'm working on right now.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18728-0
02:20:53.806 --> 02:20:58.615
<v Hafner, Courtney>Yes, for for this.
Basically what we're just trying to do is</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18728-1
02:20:58.615 --> 02:21:05.158
<v Hafner, Courtney>we are trying to revamp our battery bill
to encompass more different chemicals and</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18728-2
02:21:05.158 --> 02:21:08.942
<v Hafner, Courtney>varieties of batteries.
And before we give our,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18728-3
02:21:08.942 --> 02:21:12.726
<v Hafner, Courtney>it's not quite great,
but it's our rough draft.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18732-0
02:21:14.376 --> 02:21:14.896
<v Hafner, Courtney>Yeah, right.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18745-0
02:21:14.896 --> 02:21:16.809
<v Hafner, Courtney>Right.
We're we're trying to come up with what</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18745-1
02:21:16.809 --> 02:21:19.616
<v Hafner, Courtney>we believe from holding these stakeholder
sessions is the desire to.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18748-0
02:21:22.246 --> 02:21:24.966
<v Hafner, Courtney>To to include.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18760-0
02:21:28.036 --> 02:21:33.676
<v Hafner, Courtney>Batteries into the current program and I
support you.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18768-0
02:21:33.676 --> 02:21:34.756
<v Hafner, Courtney>That's what. That's what we're doing.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18798-0
02:21:34.876 --> 02:21:39.398
<v Hafner, Courtney>So without prohibiting items that we can
find a way to dispose of them and that's</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18798-1
02:21:39.398 --> 02:21:43.533
<v Hafner, Courtney>why we're having these conversations,
because we need to hear and maybe my</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18798-2
02:21:43.533 --> 02:21:48.110
<v Hafner, Courtney>thing was in like you all need to go back
and talk about how do we feel about this</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18798-3
02:21:48.110 --> 02:21:48.716
<v Hafner, Courtney>before you.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18821-0
02:21:48.716 --> 02:21:54.195
<v Hafner, Courtney>Can say this is our next step,
but I just I trying to understand how our</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18821-1
02:21:54.195 --> 02:21:56.896
<v Hafner, Courtney>next step in this narrower industry.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18839-0
02:21:58.086 --> 02:22:02.787
<v Hafner, Courtney>Fits alongside you all 'cause I. Again,
we want to be partners with with you all</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18839-1
02:22:02.787 --> 02:22:04.006
<v Hafner, Courtney>through this process.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18852-0
02:22:04.006 --> 02:22:10.479
<v Hafner, Courtney>Also stated that it's flowing through,
so it's kind of also the target of the</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18852-1
02:22:10.479 --> 02:22:11.806
<v Hafner, Courtney>entire bill. OK.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18862-0
02:22:11.806 --> 02:22:14.846
<v Hafner, Courtney>So I think it's important to stop what
the battery.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18879-0
02:22:17.616 --> 02:22:21.976
<v Hafner, Courtney>Is like when I use the term low hanging
fruit and I'm I'm sorry, I may have been.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18884-0
02:22:22.096 --> 02:22:23.936
<v Hafner, Courtney>I may have misspoke.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18889-0
02:22:23.936 --> 02:22:25.816
<v Hafner, Courtney>I was talking about batteries.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18898-0
02:22:26.446 --> 02:22:28.286
<v Hafner, Courtney>OK, I was not talking about vapes.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18912-0
02:22:28.286 --> 02:22:33.901
<v Hafner, Courtney>I was talking about rechargeable and
primary disposable that that to me was</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18912-1
02:22:33.901 --> 02:22:35.526
<v Hafner, Courtney>the low hanging fruit.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18924-0
02:22:36.366 --> 02:22:39.486
<v Hafner, Courtney>Yeah. And so your bill,
this would be a new bill.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18931-0
02:22:39.486 --> 02:22:43.006
<v Hafner, Courtney>This wouldn't be 7 LD 750.
This would be new.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18952-0
02:22:43.166 --> 02:22:46.861
<v Hafner, Courtney>Yeah,
this is under your authority would</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18952-1
02:22:46.861 --> 02:22:51.366
<v Hafner, Courtney>basically be a repeal and replace of the
battery.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18956-0
02:22:52.726 --> 02:22:54.806
<v Hafner, Courtney>13th whenever the battery.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18966-0
02:22:56.296 --> 02:22:58.586
<v Hafner, Courtney>Ryan,
are you looking to file that before your</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18966-1
02:22:58.586 --> 02:22:58.976
<v Hafner, Courtney>closure?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18978-0
02:22:58.976 --> 02:23:00.616
<v Hafner, Courtney>I mean,
you must have to get back to the</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18978-1
02:23:00.616 --> 02:23:01.496
<v Hafner, Courtney>governor's office now.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18984-0
02:23:01.496 --> 02:23:03.576
<v Hafner, Courtney>There's no cloture we're already
clutching.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18988-0
02:23:03.576 --> 02:23:05.136
<v Hafner, Courtney>No, we agencies.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/18997-0
02:23:05.136 --> 02:23:06.896
<v Hafner, Courtney>You have to get your stuff to the
governor's office.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19004-0
02:23:06.896 --> 02:23:09.772
<v Hafner, Courtney>We,
the product ownership program we this</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19004-1
02:23:09.772 --> 02:23:10.936
<v Hafner, Courtney>month we can put.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19020-0
02:23:12.696 --> 02:23:17.609
<v Hafner, Courtney>Language for proposed bill into our
annual report and then comes out like mid</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19020-1
02:23:17.609 --> 02:23:18.176
<v Hafner, Courtney>February.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19021-0
02:23:18.176 --> 02:23:19.256
<v Hafner, Courtney>Yeah, comes out.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19026-0
02:23:19.256 --> 02:23:21.675
<v Hafner, Courtney>Well,
we put it out for public comment in</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19026-1
02:23:21.675 --> 02:23:22.136
<v Hafner, Courtney>January.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19037-0
02:23:22.726 --> 02:23:27.566
<v Hafner, Courtney>And then and then it's in February and
they can.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19058-0
02:23:27.686 --> 02:23:32.744
<v Hafner, Courtney>And then if we propose a language for a
bill, they can elect to take it,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19058-1
02:23:32.744 --> 02:23:35.446
<v Hafner, Courtney>that would probably likely be the next.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19069-0
02:23:35.446 --> 02:23:39.206
<v Hafner, Courtney>I mean it's a short session.
I can't imagine them taking. I can't.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19073-0
02:23:39.366 --> 02:23:40.646
<v Hafner, Courtney>That's up to them.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19086-0
02:23:40.646 --> 02:23:43.646
<v Hafner, Courtney>OK, that's up to.
But you're not putting in an agency bill?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19095-0
02:23:43.646 --> 02:23:47.966
<v Hafner, Courtney>We are not putting in an agency bill,
but we are doing it's reporting out.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19098-0
02:23:48.776 --> 02:23:49.576
<v Hafner, Courtney>A draft language.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19100-0
02:23:51.496 --> 02:23:51.936
<v Hafner, Courtney>For.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19111-0
02:23:52.606 --> 02:23:57.446
<v Hafner, Courtney>The battery program in the products to
ensure report and are you.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19126-0
02:23:57.726 --> 02:24:00.916
<v Hafner, Courtney>This might be too far down the road,
but you have you have a couple lobbyists</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19126-1
02:24:00.916 --> 02:24:01.406
<v Hafner, Courtney>in the room.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19132-0
02:24:01.406 --> 02:24:03.086
<v Hafner, Courtney>We're gonna ask you questions on this one,
sure.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19137-0
02:24:03.086 --> 02:24:04.886
<v Hafner, Courtney>Are you looking to use 'cause?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19144-0
02:24:04.886 --> 02:24:07.775
<v Hafner, Courtney>Obviously,
Senator Bennett's bill is a potential</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19144-1
02:24:07.775 --> 02:24:08.246
<v Hafner, Courtney>vehicle.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19152-0
02:24:08.246 --> 02:24:10.406
<v Hafner, Courtney>It's sitting in that committee as a
carryover.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19153-0
02:24:10.406 --> 02:24:11.406
<v Hafner, Courtney>It is.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19157-0
02:24:11.486 --> 02:24:14.046
<v Hafner, Courtney>Do you anticipate were you?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19173-0
02:24:15.936 --> 02:24:18.907
<v Hafner, Courtney>I did a job as an agency person for a
dozen years,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19173-1
02:24:18.907 --> 02:24:21.296
<v Hafner, Courtney>so sometimes the committee would ask you.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19181-0
02:24:21.726 --> 02:24:24.526
<v Hafner, Courtney>Even if you opposed a bill,
go work this out.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19201-0
02:24:24.526 --> 02:24:27.998
<v Hafner, Courtney>Come back to us, you know,
in the short session with some level of</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19201-1
02:24:27.998 --> 02:24:32.246
<v Hafner, Courtney>solution were you guys tasked to do that
at all? Like is this an element of that?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19206-0
02:24:32.246 --> 02:24:36.366
<v Hafner, Courtney>No. We were tasked to to come up with.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19231-0
02:24:37.936 --> 02:24:45.779
<v Hafner, Courtney>A proposal for I will call it looking at
adding additional battery products to the</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19231-1
02:24:45.779 --> 02:24:49.936
<v Hafner, Courtney>product to the current battery program.
OK.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19236-0
02:24:50.806 --> 02:24:52.286
<v Hafner, Courtney>And we've got some up here.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19238-0
02:24:52.286 --> 02:24:53.326
<v Hafner, Courtney>Ashley, go ahead.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19252-0
02:24:55.356 --> 02:24:57.916
<v Ashley Seaward>I think you said it before,
but I just wanted to triple check.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19274-0
02:24:57.916 --> 02:25:01.600
<v Ashley Seaward>Are you all leaning towards or just
thinking about umm uh?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19274-1
02:25:01.600 --> 02:25:06.532
<v Ashley Seaward>A battery program for portable in medium
format batteries and not large format</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19274-2
02:25:06.532 --> 02:25:07.156
<v Ashley Seaward>batteries?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19278-0
02:25:07.156 --> 02:25:08.116
<v Ashley Seaward>Is that what I'm hearing?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19287-0
02:25:09.256 --> 02:25:12.776
<v Hafner, Courtney>I think we're still evaluating that.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19293-0
02:25:13.466 --> 02:25:13.826
<v Ashley Seaward>OK.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19298-0
02:25:14.256 --> 02:25:15.856
<v Hafner, Courtney>That's what we're looking for comments on.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19301-0
02:25:16.846 --> 02:25:17.286
<v Ashley Seaward>OK.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19305-0
02:25:17.406 --> 02:25:18.006
<v Ashley Seaward>Thank you.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19306-0
02:25:17.576 --> 02:25:18.656
<v Hafner, Courtney>So all right, Sarah.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19311-0
02:25:21.936 --> 02:25:23.416
<v Sarah Nichols>Hi, good afternoon everybody.</v>

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<v Sarah Nichols>Thank you for hosting this meeting.</v>

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<v Sarah Nichols>It's really interesting.</v>

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<v Sarah Nichols>I just wanted to chime in and clear up
questions about Senator Bennett's bill.</v>

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02:25:33.976 --> 02:25:41.393
<v Sarah Nichols>I'm actually here because he had asked me
to help develop the language for that</v>

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<v Sarah Nichols>bill.</v>

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<v Sarah Nichols>It was carried over and without a public
hearing,</v>

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02:25:45.622 --> 02:25:51.008
<v Sarah Nichols>and he had asked the committee to do that,
so we had time to to work to develop</v>

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<v Sarah Nichols>legislation.</v>

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<v Sarah Nichols>And a lot of the reason for that was
after our visit with the Vapors</v>

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02:25:56.855 --> 02:26:00.206
<v Sarah Nichols>Association and those fine gentlemen in
the room there.</v>

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02:26:01.126 --> 02:26:04.326
<v Sarah Nichols>He didn't want to move forward with his
bill as written, so.</v>

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02:26:06.496 --> 02:26:09.640
<v Sarah Nichols>I yeah.
I just wanted people to know that that</v>

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02:26:09.640 --> 02:26:15.057
<v Sarah Nichols>was his plan and I will report back to
him about this effort and I'm not sure if</v>

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02:26:15.057 --> 02:26:20.608
<v Sarah Nichols>he'll want to just defer to the language
that the department intends to put in the</v>

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02:26:20.608 --> 02:26:23.016
<v Sarah Nichols>product storage ship report or appe.</v>

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02:26:23.016 --> 02:26:24.016
<v Sarah Nichols>He'll still want to.</v>

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02:26:25.086 --> 02:26:27.566
<v Sarah Nichols>Put in his own language, but.</v>

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02:26:28.886 --> 02:26:29.966
<v Sarah Nichols>But I let everybody know.</v>

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02:26:31.206 --> 02:26:37.056
<v Hafner, Courtney>Sarah, I get so did I. Will you,
would you say I was I correct or</v>

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02:26:37.056 --> 02:26:43.881
<v Hafner, Courtney>incorrect in my kind of understanding of
that were we were more specifically</v>

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02:26:43.881 --> 02:26:46.806
<v Hafner, Courtney>tasked with basically evaluating.</v>

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02:26:48.256 --> 02:26:54.016
<v Hafner, Courtney>Additional battery products for our
stewardship program that exists.</v>

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02:26:55.476 --> 02:26:57.596
<v Sarah Nichols>Yeah, I think that was that section.</v>

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02:26:57.596 --> 02:27:02.676
<v Sarah Nichols>Second part of his bill is what you're
doing, but you know that wasn't passed.</v>

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02:27:02.676 --> 02:27:05.660
<v Sarah Nichols>That was just,
I think it maybe would have if you all</v>

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02:27:05.660 --> 02:27:09.196
<v Sarah Nichols>hadn't said that you were going to be
doing it anyway, I guess.</v>

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02:27:09.716 --> 02:27:13.464
<v Hafner, Courtney>Right.
And there was the 1st and the first part</v>

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02:27:10.656 --> 02:27:10.896
<v Sarah Nichols>Right.</v>

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02:27:13.464 --> 02:27:16.899
<v Hafner, Courtney>of the,
the one that was specific to vapes,</v>

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02:27:16.899 --> 02:27:23.380
<v Hafner, Courtney>that was a that was a ban on disposables,
non rechargeable single use, single use,</v>

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02:27:23.380 --> 02:27:28.767
<v Hafner, Courtney>enlarged Miss Nichols said.
He said he could not support the bill as</v>

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02:27:23.766 --> 02:27:24.566
<v Sarah Nichols>Yeah. Yep.</v>

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02:27:28.767 --> 02:27:30.016
<v Hafner, Courtney>written when we.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19594-0
02:27:30.016 --> 02:27:30.596
<v Hafner, Courtney>Actually heard it.</v>

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02:27:30.596 --> 02:27:34.178
<v Hafner, Courtney>So my understanding,
Senator Bennett in no way supported what</v>

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02:27:34.178 --> 02:27:36.836
<v Hafner, Courtney>he had proposed in that first section,
right?</v>

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02:27:36.836 --> 02:27:37.716
<v Hafner, Courtney>So that's right then.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19620-0
02:27:37.716 --> 02:27:39.156
<v Hafner, Courtney>That's why we're building on.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19650-0
02:27:39.606 --> 02:27:43.533
<v Hafner, Courtney>Concession,
which is up grading and and I'm hoping to.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19650-1
02:27:43.533 --> 02:27:49.460
<v Hafner, Courtney>I'm I'm hoping to that's my understanding
and I'm hoping that Sarah is saying that</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19650-2
02:27:49.460 --> 02:27:54.886
<v Hafner, Courtney>that was a correct understanding and I
didn't misinterpret Senator Bennett.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19658-0
02:27:56.046 --> 02:27:57.646
<v Sarah Nichols>No, I think you guys are are right on it.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19676-0
02:27:57.646 --> 02:27:59.878
<v Sarah Nichols>It's really great that you're you're
doing all this,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19676-1
02:27:59.878 --> 02:28:03.078
<v Sarah Nichols>because I certainly don't wanna be
hosting these meetings and figuring this</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19676-2
02:28:03.078 --> 02:28:03.246
<v Sarah Nichols>out.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19681-0
02:28:05.216 --> 02:28:06.736
<v Sarah Nichols>For him. So this is great.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19682-0
02:28:07.596 --> 02:28:07.956
<v Hafner, Courtney>OK.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19684-0
02:28:11.306 --> 02:28:11.746
<v Hafner, Courtney>OK.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19686-0
02:28:11.746 --> 02:28:12.506
<v Hafner, Courtney>Thank you, Sarah.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19698-0
02:28:15.036 --> 02:28:20.236
<v Hafner, Courtney>So it sounds like that's a live bill that
might include your draft.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19708-0
02:28:21.736 --> 02:28:25.609
<v Hafner, Courtney>And be in front of the committee in
January in January or it might not.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19708-1
02:28:25.609 --> 02:28:26.416
<v Hafner, Courtney>It's quite not.</v>

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02:28:26.416 --> 02:28:29.136
<v Hafner, Courtney>Yeah, yeah, that's or maybe not.</v>

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02:28:29.136 --> 02:28:30.056
<v Hafner, Courtney>Or maybe not.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19722-0
02:28:30.336 --> 02:28:35.096
<v Hafner, Courtney>So we are very in a rough draft right now.</v>

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02:28:36.856 --> 02:28:42.216
<v Hafner, Courtney>We will have something in our product
stewardship report in January in January</v>

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02:28:42.216 --> 02:28:45.336
<v Hafner, Courtney>and what happens to it at that point of
time.</v>

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02:28:45.846 --> 02:28:46.606
<v Hafner, Courtney>It's up to.</v>

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02:28:48.296 --> 02:28:52.700
<v Hafner, Courtney>The ENR committee and or senator,
but I think just to be just to clarify,</v>

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02:28:52.700 --> 02:28:57.282
<v Hafner, Courtney>I think Senator Bennett did want a
pathway forward for those disposable base</v>

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02:28:57.282 --> 02:29:00.376
<v Hafner, Courtney>like to try to figure out a solution to
be able to.</v>

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02:29:02.856 --> 02:29:07.698
<v Hafner, Courtney>Recycle them with this program,
along with other batteries and I don't</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19795-1
02:29:07.698 --> 02:29:10.016
<v Hafner, Courtney>think his mission was prohibition.</v>

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02:29:10.016 --> 02:29:12.536
<v Hafner, Courtney>He wasn't trying to prohibit these
products.</v>

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02:29:14.216 --> 02:29:15.176
<v Hafner, Courtney>Maybe the single use ones?</v>

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02:29:15.406 --> 02:29:19.901
<v Hafner, Courtney>At first, and then once he realized,
kind of like the different nuances</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19826-1
02:29:19.901 --> 02:29:24.646
<v Hafner, Courtney>between the cannabis industry and the
tobacco industry, he kind of changed.</v>

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02:29:25.486 --> 02:29:27.833
<v Hafner, Courtney>It's yeah,
and wanted to try to figure out a</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19845-1
02:29:27.833 --> 02:29:32.006
<v Hafner, Courtney>solution to be able to recycle these
products along with other products, right.</v>

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02:29:32.006 --> 02:29:33.526
<v Hafner, Courtney>I think I got that right.</v>

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02:29:33.526 --> 02:29:33.886
<v Hafner, Courtney>Is that right, Sarah?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19858-0
02:29:35.746 --> 02:29:38.466
<v Sarah Nichols>Yeah,
I think that was his general take is that.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19868-0
02:29:40.056 --> 02:29:43.616
<v Sarah Nichols>There were.
So he had been contacted by a constituent.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19873-0
02:29:43.736 --> 02:29:45.456
<v Sarah Nichols>People are having a hard time getting
insurance.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19882-0
02:29:45.456 --> 02:29:49.536
<v Sarah Nichols>There were fires and it's really it was
really this risk of fires and.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19898-0
02:29:51.376 --> 02:29:56.161
<v Sarah Nichols>I think he quickly learned that it really
wasn't just the vapes that were causing</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19898-1
02:29:56.161 --> 02:29:56.336
<v Sarah Nichols>it.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19912-0
02:29:56.336 --> 02:30:00.008
<v Sarah Nichols>It really was a bigger,
larger issue and we have these other laws</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19912-1
02:30:00.008 --> 02:30:02.456
<v Sarah Nichols>that really got complicated really
quickly.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19916-0
02:30:02.976 --> 02:30:04.456
<v Sarah Nichols>So yeah, I think the idea was to not.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19922-0
02:30:05.006 --> 02:30:08.246
<v Sarah Nichols>Single out vapes as the only problem.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19932-0
02:30:08.246 --> 02:30:11.117
<v Sarah Nichols>And then of course,
we have the requirements here and a kind</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19932-1
02:30:11.117 --> 02:30:12.246
<v Sarah Nichols>of a crazy busy session.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19942-0
02:30:12.246 --> 02:30:16.046
<v Sarah Nichols>So I think that's that's kind of why we
kicked it to such a big issue.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19945-0
02:30:17.566 --> 02:30:18.526
<v Hafner, Courtney>OK, OK.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19973-0
02:30:18.526 --> 02:30:21.548
<v Hafner, Courtney>And again, just to clarify,
I want to make sure I'm clear.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19973-1
02:30:21.548 --> 02:30:25.390
<v Hafner, Courtney>When I use the term low hanging fruit I
was talking about the rechargeable</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19973-2
02:30:25.390 --> 02:30:26.926
<v Hafner, Courtney>batteries and those batteries.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19992-0
02:30:26.926 --> 02:30:31.112
<v Hafner, Courtney>I was not talking about. No,
I was not talking about any embedded</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/19992-1
02:30:31.112 --> 02:30:34.726
<v Hafner, Courtney>embedded device because I know that's not
a low hanging.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20003-0
02:30:34.806 --> 02:30:39.631
<v Hafner, Courtney>I do that OK and just because we are
traveling a little bit,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20003-1
02:30:39.631 --> 02:30:41.846
<v Hafner, Courtney>we're sticking to batteries.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20009-0
02:30:42.446 --> 02:30:42.646
<v Sarah Nichols>Mm-hmm.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20014-0
02:30:42.656 --> 02:30:45.016
<v Hafner, Courtney>This is not necessarily just a vape
conversation right now.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20017-0
02:30:45.016 --> 02:30:46.576
<v Hafner, Courtney>We were trying to.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20048-0
02:30:47.486 --> 02:30:53.712
<v Hafner, Courtney>This is a battery conversation with like
with embedded devices,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20048-1
02:30:53.712 --> 02:30:59.646
<v Hafner, Courtney>embedded battery voices is part of it
which include devices.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20050-0
02:30:59.646 --> 02:31:02.406
<v Hafner, Courtney>Yes, let's get Katie real quick.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20076-0
02:31:04.256 --> 02:31:06.925
<v Katie Reilly>Thanks.
I I feel like I'm hearing different</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20076-1
02:31:06.925 --> 02:31:11.776
<v Katie Reilly>things that could just be because I'm
online, but I want to kind of understand.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20092-0
02:31:11.776 --> 02:31:17.640
<v Katie Reilly>So as DEP is thinking about this,
it sounds like your recommendations or</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20092-1
02:31:17.640 --> 02:31:21.576
<v Katie Reilly>what may be included in the report will
address.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20094-0
02:31:22.046 --> 02:31:23.926
<v Katie Reilly>Loose batteries.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20114-0
02:31:25.456 --> 02:31:31.257
<v Katie Reilly>But not battery embedded products.
Am I hearing that correct because of the</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20114-1
02:31:31.257 --> 02:31:32.096
<v Katie Reilly>complexity?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20118-0
02:31:31.766 --> 02:31:33.406
<v Hafner, Courtney>I think you're no.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20127-0
02:31:33.406 --> 02:31:37.326
<v Hafner, Courtney>I think what you're saying will still we
will still address.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20120-0
02:31:33.816 --> 02:31:33.976
<v Katie Reilly>OK.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20132-0
02:31:38.736 --> 02:31:39.536
<v Hafner, Courtney>We're still looking for it.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20151-0
02:31:39.696 --> 02:31:42.618
<v Hafner, Courtney>Let me put it this way.
We we will impress embedded batteries in</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20151-1
02:31:42.618 --> 02:31:43.696
<v Hafner, Courtney>some way, shape or form.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20156-0
02:31:43.696 --> 02:31:45.656
<v Hafner, Courtney>We don't know what that'll look like yet.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20166-0
02:31:45.656 --> 02:31:49.696
<v Hafner, Courtney>That could look like we need to do
further evaluation.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20173-0
02:31:49.696 --> 02:31:51.696
<v Hafner, Courtney>We look may look like we need to.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20192-0
02:31:51.816 --> 02:31:56.907
<v Hafner, Courtney>We would like to include both,
but right now now we're we're still in</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20192-1
02:31:56.907 --> 02:32:00.253
<v Hafner, Courtney>the honestly,
we're still in the stakeholder.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20192-2
02:32:00.253 --> 02:32:01.416
<v Hafner, Courtney>Provide us with.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20198-0
02:32:01.766 --> 02:32:07.126
<v Hafner, Courtney>With your input and we will have an
unstable.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20238-0
02:32:08.506 --> 02:32:11.390
<v Katie Reilly>OK,
so more that battery embedded products</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20210-0
02:32:08.536 --> 02:32:10.696
<v Hafner, Courtney>OK. In the room. Oops. Sorry.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20238-1
02:32:11.390 --> 02:32:16.821
<v Katie Reilly>will be part of kind of the report out,
but it could be anything from we need an</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20238-2
02:32:16.821 --> 02:32:19.906
<v Katie Reilly>EPR system for all battery embedded
products.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20243-0
02:32:19.906 --> 02:32:21.146
<v Katie Reilly>And here's the language.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20251-0
02:32:21.186 --> 02:32:25.426
<v Katie Reilly>Or it's a. This issue is complex.
We need to look into it further.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20254-0
02:32:25.956 --> 02:32:26.956
<v Hafner, Courtney>Further correct.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20260-0
02:32:26.956 --> 02:32:29.276
<v Hafner, Courtney>Yes, correct. Yeah. OK.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20256-0
02:32:27.336 --> 02:32:27.496
<v Katie Reilly>OK.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20264-0
02:32:29.276 --> 02:32:31.076
<v Hafner, Courtney>Let's go one more in the room.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20275-0
02:32:32.536 --> 02:32:36.936
<v Hafner, Courtney>As Reader's Digest as I can and
overlooking certain details.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20323-0
02:32:38.456 --> 02:32:41.623
<v Hafner, Courtney>Those bills,
specifically the one that was for</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20323-1
02:32:41.623 --> 02:32:44.588
<v Hafner, Courtney>electronic smoking devices and
stewardship,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20323-2
02:32:44.588 --> 02:32:48.631
<v Hafner, Courtney>the fiscal impact statement that was
generated around that,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20323-3
02:32:48.631 --> 02:32:53.820
<v Hafner, Courtney>I took some pretty substantive issue with.
And so all I wanna say is I would</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20323-4
02:32:53.820 --> 02:32:55.976
<v Hafner, Courtney>encourage everyone on this call.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20348-0
02:32:56.166 --> 02:33:01.507
<v Hafner, Courtney>And the department or just folks
generally to have as much participation</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20348-1
02:33:01.507 --> 02:33:07.286
<v Hafner, Courtney>in whatever public hearing we have in the
legislative process of this because.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20387-0
02:33:08.776 --> 02:33:14.568
<v Hafner, Courtney>The big take away was it was a pretty
constrained conversation that happened in</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20387-1
02:33:14.568 --> 02:33:19.998
<v Hafner, Courtney>the committee and that's what they build
their fiscal impact statement on.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20387-2
02:33:19.998 --> 02:33:23.762
<v Hafner, Courtney>And so knowing what the impacts,
real or perceived,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20387-3
02:33:23.762 --> 02:33:26.296
<v Hafner, Courtney>that everyone related to batteries.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20436-0
02:33:27.156 --> 02:33:30.643
<v Hafner, Courtney>Could have is gonna be good information
for us to craft.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20436-1
02:33:30.643 --> 02:33:35.537
<v Hafner, Courtney>I think a fiscal impact statement that is
actually reflective of the issue that</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20436-2
02:33:35.537 --> 02:33:38.779
<v Hafner, Courtney>we're dealing with 'cause it just my
opinion anyway.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20436-3
02:33:38.779 --> 02:33:43.428
<v Hafner, Courtney>My personal opinion after putting a ton
of time into it was that the fiscal</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20436-4
02:33:43.428 --> 02:33:43.856
<v Hafner, Courtney>impact.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20446-0
02:33:43.856 --> 02:33:50.836
<v Hafner, Courtney>Statement of 1519 did not reflect the
actual fiscal impact to.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20455-0
02:33:52.296 --> 02:33:55.416
<v Hafner, Courtney>A substantive portion of what would
actually be impacted.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20459-0
02:33:55.726 --> 02:33:56.846
<v Hafner, Courtney>That it was not reflected.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20465-0
02:33:56.846 --> 02:33:58.406
<v Hafner, Courtney>I just don't see that again.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20474-0
02:33:58.406 --> 02:34:00.446
<v Hafner, Courtney>Do you think it was too big or too little?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20475-0
02:34:00.526 --> 02:34:02.366
<v Hafner, Courtney>Wildly miscalculated.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20488-0
02:34:02.366 --> 02:34:06.046
<v Hafner, Courtney>Too low?
It never took into account if things</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20488-1
02:34:06.046 --> 02:34:07.486
<v Hafner, Courtney>became prohibited.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20497-0
02:34:07.486 --> 02:34:10.606
<v Hafner, Courtney>And they were then no longer authorized
for sale.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20503-0
02:34:10.646 --> 02:34:14.006
<v Hafner, Courtney>There would be a negative revenue
statement.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20534-0
02:34:14.446 --> 02:34:17.534
<v Hafner, Courtney>Well, I mean, I think the,
I mean the fiscal impact that was</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20534-1
02:34:17.534 --> 02:34:21.482
<v Hafner, Courtney>generated from that was basically how
much would it cost to in the state that</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20534-2
02:34:21.482 --> 02:34:22.646
<v Hafner, Courtney>to oversee the program.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20542-0
02:34:22.646 --> 02:34:24.446
<v Hafner, Courtney>But that's not what a fiscal impact
statement is.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20545-0
02:34:24.686 --> 02:34:26.086
<v Hafner, Courtney>Well, that's what.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20551-0
02:34:28.006 --> 02:34:30.486
<v Hafner, Courtney>That's a portion of the fiscal Penn State.
Yeah. OK.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20553-0
02:34:32.926 --> 02:34:33.086
<v Hafner, Courtney>OK.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20563-0
02:34:38.226 --> 02:34:41.853
<v Hafner, Courtney>Any other thoughts or concerns that
anyone can think about from our</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20563-1
02:34:41.853 --> 02:34:43.346
<v Hafner, Courtney>conversation this afternoon?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20565-0
02:34:48.006 --> 02:34:48.686
<v Hafner, Courtney>All right.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20579-0
02:34:49.046 --> 02:34:53.278
<v Hafner, Courtney>Well,
I want to thank everyone for attending.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20579-1
02:34:53.278 --> 02:34:55.486
<v Hafner, Courtney>I thought this was very.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20613-0
02:34:55.766 --> 02:35:03.066
<v Hafner, Courtney>I was a very good flow of information.
We will reach out by the end of the week,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20613-1
02:35:03.066 --> 02:35:10.366
<v Hafner, Courtney>but I think we are leaning towards to
accommodate our fellow state of Minnesota.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20615-0
02:35:10.366 --> 02:35:12.966
<v Hafner, Courtney>We'll probably just move our meeting.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20628-0
02:35:17.866 --> 02:35:22.266
<v Hafner, Courtney>Ahead to be after there,
since theirs is from 1:50.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20639-0
02:35:22.266 --> 02:35:25.626
<v Hafner, Courtney>So we'll probably have ours from 2:30 to
4:30.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20646-0
02:35:25.746 --> 02:35:28.046
<v Hafner, Courtney>Brian,
how do you what do you anticipate for</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20646-1
02:35:28.046 --> 02:35:29.426
<v Hafner, Courtney>that September 4th meeting?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20672-0
02:35:29.426 --> 02:35:33.214
<v Hafner, Courtney>Is it going to be the same thing just for
different group of people that weren't</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20672-1
02:35:33.214 --> 02:35:36.066
<v Hafner, Courtney>able to make this one?
Or is it a sort of stage two of this?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20707-0
02:35:36.066 --> 02:35:39.613
<v Hafner, Courtney>It's gonna be stage two at this meeting,
so it'd be for people who couldn't make</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20707-1
02:35:39.613 --> 02:35:41.671
<v Hafner, Courtney>this.
And actually we'd like if people can get</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20707-2
02:35:41.671 --> 02:35:44.473
<v Hafner, Courtney>us written comments.
We'll take what we got and we've actually,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20707-3
02:35:44.473 --> 02:35:47.056
<v Hafner, Courtney>even though it doesn't look like we
actually had a person.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20717-0
02:35:47.166 --> 02:35:49.526
<v Hafner, Courtney>Who was taking copious notes?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20725-0
02:35:49.606 --> 02:35:53.286
<v Hafner, Courtney>This is gonna be available for people to
watch.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20747-0
02:35:53.286 --> 02:35:59.708
<v Hafner, Courtney>There'll be a transcript of it,
and so we're hoping to actually maybe</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20747-1
02:35:59.708 --> 02:36:04.846
<v Hafner, Courtney>even have, dare I say,
a straw man conceptual proposal.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20761-0
02:36:04.926 --> 02:36:07.656
<v Hafner, Courtney>So well,
if there are questions that you want</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20761-1
02:36:07.656 --> 02:36:12.046
<v Hafner, Courtney>people in the school board the extended
group to contemplate before then.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20768-0
02:36:13.056 --> 02:36:14.096
<v Hafner, Courtney>And fire out some questions.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20770-0
02:36:14.096 --> 02:36:16.216
<v Hafner, Courtney>Questions. Yeah, just as a suggestion.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20774-0
02:36:16.766 --> 02:36:18.846
<v Hafner, Courtney>Yeah, we will. OK, great.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20778-0
02:36:20.816 --> 02:36:22.016
<v Hafner, Courtney>So if you get.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20814-0
02:36:23.816 --> 02:36:29.305
<v Hafner, Courtney>Make pretend it's just a huge flood of
comments from folks asking very</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20814-1
02:36:29.305 --> 02:36:34.948
<v Hafner, Courtney>specifically to have a embedded
integrated battery conversation separate</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20814-2
02:36:34.948 --> 02:36:37.576
<v Hafner, Courtney>from a loose battery conversation.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20817-0
02:36:37.576 --> 02:36:38.576
<v Hafner, Courtney>That's how you're doing it.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20834-0
02:36:38.576 --> 02:36:42.220
<v Hafner, Courtney>Straw pulled metrics because we can get
you lots of comments that really</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20834-1
02:36:42.220 --> 02:36:44.416
<v Hafner, Courtney>encourage you have a very specific
meeting.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20837-0
02:36:44.416 --> 02:36:45.496
<v Hafner, Courtney>Or we could ask for it now.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20839-0
02:36:48.646 --> 02:36:48.966
<v Hafner, Courtney>I'm not.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20841-0
02:36:48.966 --> 02:36:50.926
<v Hafner, Courtney>I'm sorry, what did you say?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20867-0
02:36:53.096 --> 02:36:58.532
<v Hafner, Courtney>Would getting in excess of thousands of
comments on this specifically asking for</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20867-1
02:36:58.532 --> 02:37:02.760
<v Hafner, Courtney>an embedded conversation separate from a
regular conversation,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20867-2
02:37:02.760 --> 02:37:05.176
<v Hafner, Courtney>help the department have a separate?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20882-0
02:37:06.976 --> 02:37:12.696
<v Hafner, Courtney>More consumer product integrated device
battery conversation versus not.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20894-0
02:37:12.696 --> 02:37:14.804
<v Hafner, Courtney>Hey,
we'll make it more difficult for us to</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20894-1
02:37:14.804 --> 02:37:16.336
<v Hafner, Courtney>get through all of the comments.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20897-0
02:37:16.336 --> 02:37:17.416
<v Hafner, Courtney>So that's what I'm saying.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20901-0
02:37:17.416 --> 02:37:18.936
<v Hafner, Courtney>Or can I just ask for it now?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20912-0
02:37:19.646 --> 02:37:24.686
<v Hafner, Courtney>Now you don't have to wade through 4000
comments asking for it.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20915-0
02:37:24.686 --> 02:37:25.566
<v Hafner, Courtney>May I make a suggestion?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20951-0
02:37:25.606 --> 02:37:29.051
<v Hafner, Courtney>Yes, please,
if you have a constituency that has large</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20951-1
02:37:29.051 --> 02:37:32.119
<v Hafner, Courtney>number of them,
perhaps you can all agree on one</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20951-2
02:37:32.119 --> 02:37:37.192
<v Hafner, Courtney>statement and then you can document how
many people support it instead of having</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20951-3
02:37:37.192 --> 02:37:38.006
<v Hafner, Courtney>staff having.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20961-0
02:37:40.096 --> 02:37:42.576
<v Hafner, Courtney>So many of the same letter.
There's only three of us.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20963-0
02:37:42.696 --> 02:37:44.696
<v Hafner, Courtney>So yeah, but you could.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20968-0
02:37:44.696 --> 02:37:46.416
<v Hafner, Courtney>I will give that some consideration.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20969-0
02:37:46.416 --> 02:37:46.976
<v Hafner, Courtney>Thank you.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20983-0
02:37:49.516 --> 02:37:56.556
<v Hafner, Courtney>Yeah. OK. And all this will be to the DEP.
Battery, e-mail, e-mail, correct.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20987-0
02:37:56.596 --> 02:37:59.716
<v Hafner, Courtney>Yep, 200% OK alright.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20992-0
02:38:01.016 --> 02:38:02.456
<v Hafner, Courtney>Oh, Ashley's got a question.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/20999-0
02:38:03.116 --> 02:38:05.556
<v Ashley Seaward>Hi I know I had my hand up many times.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21014-0
02:38:05.556 --> 02:38:09.556
<v Ashley Seaward>Thank you so much again for your time and
this this detailed discussion.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21033-0
02:38:09.636 --> 02:38:13.942
<v Ashley Seaward>I had a note before that the comments
would be due a week after the September</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21033-1
02:38:13.942 --> 02:38:17.916
<v Ashley Seaward>4th meeting and I was just a little bit
confused by the last statement.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21036-0
02:38:17.916 --> 02:38:18.756
<v Ashley Seaward>So should we?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21049-0
02:38:18.796 --> 02:38:22.509
<v Ashley Seaward>We're encouraged to submit comments as
quick as possible to help inform the next</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21049-1
02:38:22.509 --> 02:38:22.876
<v Ashley Seaward>meeting.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21062-0
02:38:23.806 --> 02:38:25.853
<v Hafner, Courtney>Yes,
you're encouraged to submit comments from</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21062-1
02:38:25.853 --> 02:38:27.246
<v Hafner, Courtney>the Open Forum for next meeting.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21073-0
02:38:27.246 --> 02:38:33.606
<v Hafner, Courtney>But when we actually start putting,
we're gonna look for the end of comments.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21075-0
02:38:35.056 --> 02:38:35.376
<v Hafner, Courtney>Period.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21079-0
02:38:37.336 --> 02:38:38.016
<v Hafner, Courtney>By that.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21089-0
02:38:38.016 --> 02:38:41.296
<v Hafner, Courtney>After that second week of the last date,
I said earlier.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21092-0
02:38:41.296 --> 02:38:42.056
<v Hafner, Courtney>So we can begin.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21107-0
02:38:42.056 --> 02:38:47.005
<v Hafner, Courtney>So we can begin drafting what we yeah,
so we can begin drafting what we need to</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21107-1
02:38:47.005 --> 02:38:47.376
<v Hafner, Courtney>draft.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21109-0
02:38:48.036 --> 02:38:48.476
<v Ashley Seaward>OK.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21116-0
02:38:48.476 --> 02:38:50.236
<v Ashley Seaward>Well,
we want to be as helpful as possible.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21118-0
02:38:49.296 --> 02:38:49.416
<v Hafner, Courtney>Yes.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21130-0
02:38:50.236 --> 02:38:53.236
<v Ashley Seaward>So we will get ours in as quick as we can.
Thank you.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21133-0
02:38:52.786 --> 02:38:54.306
<v Hafner, Courtney>Right. Yeah, we really appreciate.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21162-0
02:38:54.306 --> 02:38:57.853
<v Hafner, Courtney>I'll be honest,
having gone through several stakeholder</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21162-1
02:38:57.853 --> 02:39:02.983
<v Hafner, Courtney>sessions and a lot of people wait till
the last minute to submit stuff and be if</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21162-2
02:39:02.983 --> 02:39:07.226
<v Hafner, Courtney>it'd be great if if if folks can get them
in sooner than later so.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21176-0
02:39:09.606 --> 02:39:12.797
<v Hafner, Courtney>So my understanding is that at the next
stakeholder meeting,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21176-1
02:39:12.797 --> 02:39:14.366
<v Hafner, Courtney>you'll have something drafted.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21193-0
02:39:14.366 --> 02:39:17.660
<v Hafner, Courtney>On what you think you would be proposing
to the legislature, well,</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21193-1
02:39:17.660 --> 02:39:19.086
<v Hafner, Courtney>I is that what you're saying?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21206-0
02:39:19.086 --> 02:39:22.062
<v Hafner, Courtney>Yes, a concept.
And that's what kind of the next</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21206-1
02:39:22.062 --> 02:39:24.006
<v Hafner, Courtney>discussion will be about, right.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21207-0
02:39:24.006 --> 02:39:25.446
<v Hafner, Courtney>Yeah. OK. OK.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21220-0
02:39:25.766 --> 02:39:28.447
<v Hafner, Courtney>Optimistically speaking,
optimistic put out like another</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21220-1
02:39:28.447 --> 02:39:29.246
<v Hafner, Courtney>background sheet.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21228-0
02:39:29.486 --> 02:39:31.633
<v Hafner, Courtney>Yeah,
put out by the background sheet so that</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21228-1
02:39:31.633 --> 02:39:32.846
<v Hafner, Courtney>we can prep ahead of time.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21230-0
02:39:32.846 --> 02:39:33.606
<v Hafner, Courtney>Yep, OK.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21232-0
02:39:35.656 --> 02:39:36.096
<v Hafner, Courtney>Thank you.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21238-0
02:39:36.566 --> 02:39:39.646
<v Hafner, Courtney>Great. Thank you. Thanks. All right,
Katie.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21248-0
02:39:40.966 --> 02:39:43.446
<v Katie Reilly>Sorry, I know I've spoken a lot as well.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21258-0
02:39:43.446 --> 02:39:47.006
<v Katie Reilly>Thank you for your time today.
Following up on that comment.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21277-0
02:39:47.006 --> 02:39:53.926
<v Katie Reilly>So DEP is putting out a sort of draft,
a draft concept or draft proposal.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21292-0
02:39:54.006 --> 02:39:56.423
<v Katie Reilly>When do you anticipate that being
available?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21292-1
02:39:56.423 --> 02:39:59.646
<v Katie Reilly>And I'm trying to figure out like when do
we comment right?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21311-0
02:39:59.646 --> 02:40:04.686
<v Katie Reilly>Do we comment once a draft concept is out
there for us to comment on?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21315-0
02:40:04.256 --> 02:40:04.736
<v Hafner, Courtney>Well, if.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21319-0
02:40:04.686 --> 02:40:06.606
<v Katie Reilly>Or do we comment on this meeting?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21321-0
02:40:06.606 --> 02:40:07.806
<v Katie Reilly>Are you OK if we comment?</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21324-0
02:40:08.496 --> 02:40:09.456
<v Katie Reilly>Multiple times in this process.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21332-0
02:40:09.446 --> 02:40:10.486
<v Hafner, Courtney>Before and after.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21355-0
02:40:10.526 --> 02:40:13.699
<v Hafner, Courtney>I mean, yeah,
we'd comment now so we can incorporate</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21338-0
02:40:11.926 --> 02:40:12.286
<v Katie Reilly>OK.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21355-1
02:40:13.699 --> 02:40:18.307
<v Hafner, Courtney>what we've heard into that draft document
and then when we put out the draft</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21355-2
02:40:18.307 --> 02:40:18.846
<v Hafner, Courtney>document.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21359-0
02:40:20.256 --> 02:40:20.896
<v Hafner, Courtney>Let us know what you think.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21370-0
02:40:22.366 --> 02:40:25.126
<v Katie Reilly>OK. And then after September 4th as well,
OK.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21369-0
02:40:23.086 --> 02:40:23.566
<v Hafner, Courtney>OK.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21374-0
02:40:24.726 --> 02:40:26.766
<v Hafner, Courtney>Yes. Yeah. OK.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21375-0
02:40:26.406 --> 02:40:26.726
<v Katie Reilly>Got it.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21383-0
02:40:28.576 --> 02:40:30.696
<v Hafner, Courtney>Alright,
folding folder really don't offer me.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21385-0
02:40:32.696 --> 02:40:33.016
<v Hafner, Courtney>Thanks everyone.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21414-0
02:40:35.266 --> 02:40:39.749
<v Hafner, Courtney>Yeah, because you're going for informal.
Given for. Yeah, OK.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21414-1
02:40:39.749 --> 02:40:42.786
<v Hafner, Courtney>Because this is informal, you know, right.</v>

c09a47c9-d64f-4c8b-b20f-07da7460f84b/21415-0
02:40:43.026 --> 02:40:44.026
<v Hafner, Courtney>Yeah, yeah.</v>