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Board Meeting Minutes: August 21, 2008

MAINE STATE BOARD OF LICENSURE

FOR PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS

Revised September 10, 2008

Members Present: Board members present were; Kathy Gustin Williams, P.E, Chair; William A. Lotz, P.E., Vice Chair; John E. Dority, P.E.; Donald Grant, P.E.; George Ames, P.E; David W. Jackson Jr., Public Member. Also present were Judith Peters, AAG, and Warren T. Foster, P.E., Executive Director.

Call to Order: The meeting was called to order at 9:06 a.m. by Chair Gustin Williams in the Maine Instrument Flight Conference Room at the Augusta State Airport.

1. Minutes of previous meeting and other preliminaries.

A. Approval of the previous meeting on June 12, 2008, Revised June 30, 2008.

There were no corrections or additions to the June 12, 2008 minutes.

On a motion by Mr. Lotz, seconded by Mr. Ames, the Board voted unanimously to approve the minutes.

2. Executive Committee (Gustin Williams)

A. Request for NCEES to develop a PE exam for Software Engineering

On a motion by Mr. Lotz, seconded by Dr. Grant, to support the development by NCEES a PE Exam for Software Engineers by formally submitting a request to NCEES. The Board by a vote of, 2 in favor, 4 opposed voted not to support this new PE Exam at this time.

B. NCEES 87th Annual Meeting, August, 2008.

Ms. Gustin Williams and Mr. Lotz reported on actions taken at the annual meeting. Written report included with the Minutes of this meeting.

3. Finance Committee: (Ames)

A. Book balance on August 1, 2008 was $371,772. This compares to the balance of $361,662. on September 5, 2006.

B. The number of active licensees on August 1, 2008 was 5359. This compares to 5229 licensees on September 5, 2006.

4. Rules Committee: (Dority)

5. Examinations Committee: (Grant)

A. April 12, 2008 FE Irregularity Report.

On a motion by Mr. Lotz, seconded by Mr. Ames, the Board voted unanimously to invalidate the April 12, 2008 FE exam results of Jo-Ann Provencher.

B. Concurrence with the results of the Structural II (PE) examination held on April 11, 2008.

On a motion by Mr. Lotz, seconded by Mr. Ames, the Board voted unanimously to concur with the results of the April 11, 2008 Structural II PE exam.

C. E-mail from Marcia Michaud of Fiber Materials, Inc.

The following is the text of the e-mail from Ms. Michaud :

Our company employs approximately 30 engineers, several of whom have expressed interest in obtaining their Professional Engineer (PE) License. In reviewing the application process, it was noted that one requirement is to have five references, three of which must be from current Professional Engineers. As none of our engineers currently hold PE Licensure, we would like to inquire if the following action is an acceptable method for meeting the PE reference requirements.

We would like to contact several local engineering companies and ask if a few of their Professional Engineers would be willing to interview a number of our engineers, as well as review our engineers associated resumes and projects. Once a thorough review is completed, the Professional Engineers could then write references for our reviewed engineers.

On a motion by Mr. Lotz, seconded by Mr. Ames, the Board voted unanimously to allow the request providing the reviewers are Professional Engineers and are proficient in the Engineering field they are reviewing. The candidates for the PE exam would need three Professional Engineer references.

6. Information Committee: (Lotz)

A. Fall Newsletter

Suggested articles:

* Letter from Board to Oil and Solid Fuel Board (Foster)

· Continuing Education Audit and Action taken at the Annual Meeting ( Gustin Williams)

· Mr. Sweet's NCEES Distinguished Service Award(Foster)

· Design/Build (Ames)

7. Complaint Committee: (Cole)

A. Licensed

None

B. Unlicensed

None

C. Potential Complaint

A news article from 8/15/08 Bangor Daily News entitled, Gas Poisoning Leads to Charges, was discussed. The article stated that charges were filed against a New Hampshire company that installed a new heating system that apparently caused carbon monoxide poisoning at an apartment complex in Brewer, Maine. The Board asked Ms. Peters to contact the officials at PFR investigating this case to see if Engineering was involved.

8. Special Committees:

A. Report by the Continuing Education Committee. (Gustin Williams)

Ms. Gustin Williams reported on the second audit. The following actions were taken as a result of this audit:

1. On a motion by Mr. Lotz, seconded by Mr. Ames, the Board voted unanimously to offer Eliza D. Schacht, P.E., a Consent Agreement which would include an admission of failure to obtain continuing education credits required for renewal of the PE license, a $500.00 fine and a reprimand from the Board.

2. On a motion by Mr. Lotz, seconded by Dr. Grant the Board voted unanimously to offer Michael Ambrosino, P.E., a Consent Agreement which would include an admission of failure to obtain continuing education credits required for renewal of the PE and to agree in lieu of fulfilling these hours to surrender all copies of his professional engineering license.

3. On a motion by Mr. Dority, seconded by Dr. Grant the Board voted unanimously to grant Mr. Phillip Ngui a medical exemption from completing the continuing education audit for the relevant licensure application period.

9. Reading of communications:

A. Letter to Oil and Solid Fuel Board.

Informational

B. Letter to ELSES with concerns pertaining to the administration of April 2008 PE and FE exams.

Informational

C. Letter and Emails from ELSES in response to our letter. (9B)

Informational

D. Letter from ASME with Position Statement on BS+30.

Informational

10. Reading and considering applications:

A. Review and concurrence of Chair/Executive Director actions:

On a motion by Mr. Lotz, seconded by Dr. Grant, the Board voted unanimously to concur with items 1- 6:

1. Temporary certificates issued.

2. Licenses authorized for NCEES Certified Applicants.

3. Comity licenses authorized by the Executive Director and Chair.

4. Licenses by written examinations.(none)

5. Licenses by oral examinations.(none)

6. Reexaminations authorized by the Executive Director.

B. New Engineer Intern (E.I.) Applications.

On a motion by Mr. Lotz and seconded by Dr. Grant , the Board voted unanimously to approve applications of Engineer Interns to take the Fundamentals of Engineering examination listed on the attached list under Item #10.B.

C. Recently Certified Engineer Interns.

On a motion by Dr. Grant and seconded by Mr. Ames, the Board voted unanimously to approve recently certified Engineer Interns as listed on the attached list under Item #10.C.

D. New P.E. Applications.

On a motion by Dr. Grant, seconded by Mr. Lotz, the Board voted

unanimously to accept the Executive Director's recommendations of all the listed applicants.

E. Tabled and previously considered.

None

F. Reexamination Requests

1. Keith Ewing failed PE exam more than 3 times is requesting to take the October

2008 exam.

On a motion by Dr. Grant, seconded by Mr. Lotz the Board voted 5 in favor and 1 opposed to allow Mr. Ewing to sit for the October 2008 exam.

2. Andy Morrell failed PE exam more then 3 times is requesting to take the October

2008 exam.

On a motion by Mr. Lotz, seconded by Mr. Ames the Board voted unanimously to allow Mr. Morrell to sit for the October 2008 exam.

3. Rayshelly Lizotte failed PE exam more then 3 times is requesting to take the October 2008 exam.

On a motion by Mr. Lotz, seconded by Dr. Grant the Board voted unanimously to allow Ms. Rayshelly to sit for the October 2008 exam.

4. Nathaniel J. Bacon failed Structural I PE exam more then 3 times is requesting to take the October 2008 exam

On a motion by Mr. Lotz, seconded by Mr. Ames the Board voted unanimously to allow Mr. Bacon to sit for the October 2008 exam.

G. Other applications or requests.

1. Wesley Gerrish, P.E. letter to the Board.

On a motion by Mr. Lotz, seconded by Mr. Ames the Board voted unanimously that disclosure of an OUI conviction was not required on Maine's Application.

2. Haibo Mao letter to the Board.

On a motion by Mr. Lotz, seconded by Mr. Dority the Board voted unanimously to require Mr. Mao to have his undergraduate degree evaluated.

11. Unfinished Business

A. Unlicensed Practice Proposed Legislation. ( Lotz )

There is nothing to report at this time.

B. Letter to Engineers (Ames)

The Board agreed that the information about Design /Build in Mr. Ames letter should be presented in a newsletter article.

12. New Business:

A. Fall Outing September 6, 2008.

The Board's fall outing will be at Ms. Gustin Williams camp on September 6, 2008.

13. Oral Exams:

None

14. Adjournment

A. Next meetings are November 20, 2008 and January 15, 2009.

B. Meeting adjourned at 1:40 PM

Respectfully submitted,

Warren T. Foster, P.E.

Executive Director